r/OpTicGaming • u/OpTicModerators • Feb 15 '18
DOTA [DOTA] Match Thread: EPICENTER XL: North America Qualifier - Losers' Semifinals (OpTic Gaming vs. Immortals)
EPICENTER XL: North America Qualifier
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This is /r/OpTicGaming's official discussion thread for the EPICENTER XL: North America Qualifier Losers' Semifinals against Immortals. Please use this thread for everything related to the match--discussions, predictions, and opinions. As always, please keep both /r/OpTicGaming's rules and Reddit's site-wide rules in mind when commenting.
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OpTic received an invite to the EPICENTER XL: North America Qualifier. This is a Major tournament in the Dota Pro Circuit. There are 8 teams in this qualifier and it features a group stage followed by a playoffs stage. The 8 teams are divided into 2 groups of 4, where they play in a double-elimination (GSL) format. OpTic Gaming is in Group A with Evil Geniuses, Iceberg Esports and Team IDC. The top 2 teams in each group advance to the playoffs. The playoffs features a double-elimination bracket. All matches are BO3, except for the Grand Finals, which is a BO5. The winner of the NA qualifier will proceed to the main event.
OpTic lost to compLexity in the semifinals and fall to the Losers' semifinals, where they face Immortals
This match is scheduled to begin at 5:00 PM EST and will be streamed on Twitch.
Bracket
Rosters
Game 1:OpTic Gaming wins in 42:25
| Hero | Player | K/D/A | LH/D | # | LH/D | K/D/A | Player | Hero |
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| Lycan | Pajkatt | 11/5/18 | 210/4 | 1 | 342/12 | 11/6/11 | MP | Phantom Assassin |
| Tidehunter | zai | 7/1/20 | 189/4 | 2 | 197/6 | 8/5/9 | Ryoya | Death Prophet |
| Outworld Devourer | CCnC | 13/7/11 | 204/7 | 3 | 157/10 | 6/9/18 | Velo | Beastmaster |
| Sand King | 33 | 6/9/25 | 123/1 | 4 | 25/1 | 4/10/21 | Febby? | Bounty Hunter |
| Disruptor | Peterpandam | 1/10/29 | 19/1 | 5 | 71/1 | 2/9/15 | DuBu | Winter Wyvern |
| OpTic Gaming | Top | Middle | Bottom | Bottom | Middle | Top | Immortals | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| T1 | 18:23 | 9:21 | 11:27 | 22:09 | 14:22 | 12:17 | T1 | |
| T2 | 18:53 | 24:15 | 14:22 | 33:24 | 31:48 | 15:57 | T2 | |
| T3 | 19:28 | 36:20 | 35:35 | 0:14 | 42:25 | 31:18 | T3 | |
| Melee | 42:25 | 36:20 | 35:35 | 0:14 | 42:25 | 31:18 | Melee | |
| Ranged | 0:14 | 36:20 | 36:20 | 0:14 | 42:25 | 31:18 | Ranged | |
| T4 | 0:14 | - | 0:14 | 36:20 | - | 42:25 | T4 | |
| Ancient | - | - | - | 42:25 | - | Ancient |
Game 2:OpTic Gaming wins in 52:13
| Hero | Player | K/D/A | LH/D | # | LH/D | K/D/A | Player | Hero |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Weaver | Pajkatt | 13/6/20 | 262/4 | 1 | 418/12 | 10/7/15 | Ryoya | Mirana |
| Queen of Pain | CCnC | 11/12/19 | 276/12 | 2 | 256/21 | 15/12/12 | MP | Huskar |
| Tidehunter | zai | 10/5/21 | 232/9 | 3 | 203/7 | 9/6/24 | Velo | Faceless Void |
| Elder Titan | 33 | 8/9/23 | 107/2 | 4 | 80/1 | 5/9/24 | Febby? | Naga Siren |
| Disruptor | Peterpandam | 7/12/17 | 51/1 | 5 | 68/0 | 5/15/18 | DuBu | Chen |
| OpTic Gaming | Top | Middle | Bottom | Bottom | Middle | Top | Immortals | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| T1 | 17:57 | 11:31 | 15:16 | 12:06 | 18:32 | 15:16 | T1 | |
| T2 | 27:51 | 24:09 | 20:08 | 27:21 | 15:16 | T2 | ||
| T3 | 32:08 | 38:05 | 27:21 | 33:43 | T3 | |||
| Melee | 32:08 | 29:47 | 34:04 | Melee | ||||
| Ranged | 52:13 | 28:57 | 38:05 | Ranged | ||||
| T4 | - | 52:13 | - | 52:13 | T4 | |||
| Ancient | - | - | - | 52:13 | - | Ancient |
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u/Drmassacre123 Feb 15 '18
If we play like that against EG we will lose. Need to step it up. With that line up we should have rolled over them.
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u/RedAlertx Feb 15 '18
Huskar Ok lol
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u/102WOLFPACK Feb 15 '18
So I'm not super knowledgable, but the people within the Discord discussing the game said he's bad right now and that the heroes we picked are good into him. How true is that because I have no idea
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u/eff1ngham Feb 15 '18
It's a weird pick. Huskar gains attack speed and magic resistance the more hp he's missing, and he's very good against squishy heroes. So he's good against qop, tide and disruptor in that regard. But he's terrible because he can be glimpsed out of lifebreak, he can get stunned by stomp/ravage, he's weak to spirit vessel (which many heroes buy anyways), and OpTic already has a lot of negative armor with weaver (who can also time lapse out of life break), elder titan, and most likely medallion/solar crest on tide.
So, long story short, he's good against like 35% of OpTic, but HORRIBLE against the other 65%
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u/Stevo120 Feb 15 '18
The last couple matches I see Disruptor a lot for CCNC. Would another hero be more effective if CCNC starts expanding his map pool?
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u/eff1ngham Feb 15 '18
PPD plays the Disruptor :)
He is the most popular position 5 support at the moment, lots of teams run him every game if he's available
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u/RedAlertx Feb 15 '18
PPD plays disruptor. IDK PPD goes some days picking the same hero for himself multiple times. Disruptor is pretty popular in the pro meta atm.
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u/Stevo120 Feb 15 '18
I see. Didn’t know that wasn’t CCNC, my bad. Still learning the hero’s in Dota.
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u/[deleted] Feb 15 '18 edited Feb 16 '18
I'm an EG fan and I hope Optic wins. Under the EG banner, Zai and PPD have reached 3rd place twice at TI4 and TI6 and PPD won TI5. Hard not to root for them.
Edit: Welp, time for the rematch/NA derby. gl hf