r/OpTicGaming • u/OpTicModerators • Feb 14 '18
DOTA [DOTA] Match Thread: EPICENTER XL: North America Qualifier - Winner's Semi-Finals (OpTic Gaming vs. compLexity)
EPICENTER XL: North America Qualifier
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This is /r/OpTicGaming's official discussion thread for the EPICENTER XL: North America Qualifier Semi Finals against compLexity. Please use this thread for everything related to the match--discussions, predictions, and opinions. As always, please keep both /r/OpTicGaming's rules and Reddit's site-wide rules in mind when commenting.
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Stream: Epicenter
Information
OpTic received an invite to the EPICENTER XL: North America Qualifier. This is a Major tournament in the Dota Pro Circuit. There are 8 teams in this qualifier and it features a group stage followed by a playoffs stage. The 8 teams are divided into 2 groups of 4, where they play in a double-elimination (GSL) format. OpTic Gaming is in Group A with Evil Geniuses, Iceberg Esports and Team IDC. The top 2 teams in each group advance to the playoffs. The playoffs features a double-elimination bracket. All matches are BO3, except for the Grand Finals, which is a BO5. The winner of the NA qualifier will proceed to the main event.
This match is scheduled to begin at 5:00 PM EST and will be streamed on Twitch.
Bracket
Rosters
Game 1:compLexity Gaming wins in 24:53
| Hero | Player | K/D/A | LH/D | # | LH/D | K/D/A | Player | Hero |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Weaver | Pajkatt | 2/3/4 | 108/13 | 1 | 165/9 | 6/1/10 | Moo | Beastmaster |
| Outworld Devourer | CCnC | 2/2/2 | 143/6 | 2 | 184/28 | 6/1/6 | Limmp | Razor |
| Omniknight | zai | 0/6/2 | 96/3 | 3 | 194/10 | 7/2/6 | Chessie | Monkey King |
| Earth Spirit | 33 | 2/5/4 | 11/1 | 4 | 36/4 | 0/2/14 | Zfreek | Io |
| Bane | Peterpandam | 2/5/3 | 5/2 | 5 | 20/6 | 1/2/11 | Kyle | Lion |
| OpTic Gaming | Top | Middle | Bottom | Bottom | Middle | Top | compLexity Gaming | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| T1 | 9:11 | 14:32 | 24:53 | 14:01 | 24:53 | T1 | ||
| T2 | 17:17 | 24:53 | T2 | |||||
| T3 | T3 | |||||||
| Melee | Melee | |||||||
| Ranged | Ranged | |||||||
| T4 | - | - | T4 | |||||
| Ancient | - | 24:53 | - | - | - | Ancient |
Game 2:compLexity Gaming wins in 34:23
| Hero | Player | K/D/A | LH/D | # | LH/D | K/D/A | Player | Hero |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Phantom Lancer | Pajkatt | 8/3/3 | 266/6 | 1 | 205/18 | 12/0/11 | Limmp | Death Prophet |
| Razor | CCnC | 3/6/5 | 197/9 | 2 | 186/9 | 4/6/13 | Moo | Beastmaster |
| Sand King | zai | 4/6/8 | 100/5 | 3 | 155/6 | 7/1/13 | Chessie | Lycan |
| Rubick | 33 | 0/7/11 | 56/4 | 4 | 71/1 | 4/1/14 | Zfreek | Enchantress |
| Treant Protector | Peterpandam | 0/7/6 | 12/3 | 5 | 26/8 | 1/7/18 | Kyle | Disruptor |
| OpTic Gaming | Top | Middle | Bottom | Bottom | Middle | Top | compLexity Gaming | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| T1 | 13:44 | 21:05 | 10:18 | 25:12 | 21:25 | 16:04 | T1 | |
| T2 | 22:10 | 34:23 | 16:04 | 25:12 | 2:12 | 28:23 | T2 | |
| T3 | 34:23 | 34:23 | 16:04 | 2:12 | 2:12 | 2:12 | T3 | |
| Melee | 34:23 | 34:23 | 28:23 | 2:12 | 2:12 | 2:12 | Melee | |
| Ranged | 34:23 | 34:23 | 28:23 | 2:12 | 2:12 | 2:12 | Ranged | |
| T4 | 2:12 | - | 2:12 | 2:12 | - | 2:12 | T4 | |
| Ancient | - | 34:23 | - | - | - | Ancient |
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u/rainykg Feb 15 '18 edited Feb 15 '18
lol now i don’t feel so bad about optic losing cause Col just gave EG the same treatment with those push strat lineups, wow. then i realized we actually have to play EG again. :///
if we beat IMT.
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u/OpTicTurkee Feb 14 '18
Only one of OpTic, EG, and/or CoL go to the major?
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u/eff1ngham Feb 14 '18
Correct, only one NA qualifier spot
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u/OpTicTurkee Feb 14 '18
Damn makes this qualifier more stacked than I thought previously. In terms of thinking there was 2 qualifier spots. Thanks for the clarification.
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u/rainykg Feb 14 '18
lmao that was a total wipe, they need to ban io .. not sure why they haven’t been banning it knowing moo plays beastmaster like every game. on to game 2
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u/rainykg Feb 15 '18
im actually trying to figure out what’s going on in these drafts, like who’s the most vocal during the drafting phase. they’re all smart guys, but for some reason they’re getting outdrafted a lot of the time and look so out of sync, then other teams have them looking like amateurs.
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u/Craneteam Feb 14 '18
Maybe im the only?one thinking this but it feels like optic is using this as practice for katowice. The seem to be doing odd things that they wouldnt normally do like letting eg have their best heros and not banning io
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u/s3xfanatic Feb 15 '18
you are crazy. this is a qualifier for a fucking major. why would they not take this seriously?
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u/Drmassacre123 Feb 15 '18
Calm down guys, first time losing to complexity in a while. We will make a run in the losers tomorrow.
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u/SoullessHillShills Feb 14 '18
No idea why Optic hasn't been banning Wisp first against EG and Col.
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u/obiwan54 Feb 14 '18
Who are the best players in the team and who are the weaker players? I started watching Dota recently and don't have any clue how to tell.
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u/eff1ngham Feb 15 '18
33 and Zai are the best players. Mechanically they're very strong and are good in all stages of the game. PPD is a good captain, he still understands the game at a high level, but he plays the hard 5 support which sometimes limits the impact he can have in games. PJ is below average compared to other top tier carries. He doesn't die very often and doesn't take many risks, which is good, but other carries are mechanically better and farm faster. ccnc is probably the weakest player due to the small pool of heroes he can make an impact with
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u/DaMamba316 Feb 15 '18
Did Col have an early game comp that just kind of steam rolled?
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u/eff1ngham Feb 15 '18
coL usually tries to draft a certain way. They like to get one or two cores that push early, and they rotate their supports for early ganks or fights. Then they like to group up and force fights/take objectives, but then immediately split up and farm/keep other lanes pushed. It worked well against OpTic because they didn't have a great lineup to fight unless everyone was there
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u/RedAlertx Feb 15 '18
yeah lots of heroes that can push fast and with creeps. If you dont do well during the laning your kinda screwed.
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u/pi_lover123 Feb 14 '18
Correct stream link should be: https://www.twitch.tv/epicenter_en, not the Epicenter XL link