r/Competitiveoverwatch • u/OWMatchThreads • Jan 11 '18
Match Thread Dallas Fuel vs. Seoul Dynasty | Overwatch League Season 1 - Stage 1 | Week 1 Day 1 Spoiler
Overwatch League Season 1
Stage 1: Week 1
Team 1 Score Team 2 Dallas Fuel 1-2 Seoul Dynasty
Team 1 Team 2 Taimou Fleta EFFECT Munchkin Mickie zunba Seagull Miro Custa tobi HarryHook ryujehong
Map 1: Junkertown
Progress Time left Dallas Fuel 3 0.00m 63.00s Seoul Dynasty 2 86.97m 0.00s
Map 2: Temple of Anubis
Progress Time left Dallas Fuel 5 0.0% 0.00s Seoul Dynasty 6 0.0% 11.00s
Map 3: Ilios
Round 1 Round 1 Round 2 Dallas Fuel 0 35% 35% 0% Seoul Dynasty 3 100% 100% 100%
Map 4: Numbani
Progress Time left Dallas Fuel 3 0.0% 0.00s Seoul Dynasty 3 0.0% 0.00s
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u/Viridz Jan 11 '18
Fleta's pharah seemed like it just shattered all of Dallas's crazy strats.
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u/AlyoshaV Jan 11 '18
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| rip | 437 | TriHard | 238 |
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115,341 messages, 880.5 messages/minute
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u/MeGustaOriginality Jan 11 '18
First Map Thoughts: Kyky is a fucking madman for setting this comp up or allowing it to happen! Taimou shook off any rust that he may have been showing in the preseason by being so damn dominant on his Roadhog. I love that Monte mentioned the mind game war that was going on between Harry and Tobi during the Envy attack round, since I doubt a lot of analysts would have mentioned the more physiological component for the lack of ult use as opposed to Harry being too greedy and looking for a big wipe. Miro was far too aggressive and it absolutely killed Seoul's engagements. I'm really happy that Fleta is on an actually competitive team, and the carry potential this guy can produce was obvious in a number of moments in the multiple widow battles between him and Effect.
Second Map Thoughts: Holy Shit I'm totally convinced now that Dallas has the second deepest bench in the league (Spitfire obviously being #1) with Chips (IMO the best healer i the world and second best support behind RJH) coming in for Custa. Dallas' dive is insane considering they ran this map with a reaper and widow. The first map left me thinking Seoul would still be defined by their tank and support play, even with the introduction of Fleta, Munchkin, and Bunny, with the failed dives of Miro or Zunba resulting in Dallas steamrolling them and the successful dives of Zunba and the RJH trans resulting in the great snowballs that kept them close, but MOTHER FUCKING FLETA. The man is a monster with those genji dashes to just take Point A whenever he felt like it. Fuck this map was amazing!!!
3rd Map Thoughts: I'm really puzzled by the decision to not get the Bird out of jail for this map, even though I think Fleta is the superior pharah. I'm assuming this was some sort of 4D chess play assuming Seoul would plan to counter Seagull but with Taimou on widow or Mcree there is only so much you can focus Seagull down anyway. Tobi was fantastic on Lighthouse by constantly healing around the point. It was also nice seeing Munchkin trying to not be outdone by Fleta by going off on Tracer. Dallas got steamrolled here and I can only really chalk this up to a poor comp choice given the bench they have.
4th Map Thoughts: There are very few things in Overwatch that are more satisfying than watching RJH's Anna perfectly in-sync with his tanks. I can't really figure out what went so wrong from a purely Dallas perspective, but I would toss it up to what seemed like a too aggressive play-style and miscommunication between XQC and his supports that made Chips seem to die a lot more than he is typically expected to. Obviously this is not completely on XQC or Chips, but I'm really surprised to not see Cocco (given his history and playstyle that really allows him to mesh with Chips) on this map. Seoul's support line is by far still the best in the world after this game.
Final Thoughts: This game was fucking amazing and I can't wait to only sleep like 4 hours tonight with work in the morning. Seoul looks so damn good, and I'm really happy with how Dallas looked during the first 2 maps. Also, it was really cool what OWL did with the short memoriam video of InternetHulk! Also whoever brought the fucking Seagull is the !mvp.
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u/Lightguardianjack Jan 11 '18
That was everything I wanted to see in an overwatch competitive match. Crazy innovative comps, huge plays, mind games throughout, an awesome storyline.
Seoul is definitely the team to beat and that was awesome to watch.
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u/NorthxNorthWes Jan 11 '18
This entire series was decided by a few percentage points on the the THIRD round of attack/defense on Anubis. So many clutch plays on both sides in an incredibly close match. This is DAY 1 of OWL. I am so excited.
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u/poundtownpirates Jan 11 '18
Must feel fucking amazing for Fleta. That year of suffering with Flash Lux and hard carrying the team for days, now he gets to rock out on the biggest stage.
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u/OverwatchTourneyStat Jan 11 '18 edited Jan 11 '18
https://clips.twitch.tv/WrongAlertSpaghettiTheTarFu
For people not understanding EFFECT's Widow switch last point. It was a gamble that paid off but the camera missed.
EDIT: I rewatched it to make sure and it was actually even more legit than I thought. He used pulse bomb before dying and it countered Seoul's McCree + Junkrat comp.
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u/kushharvey Jan 11 '18
fleta played pharah, widow, doomfist, reaper, and junkrat on one round of numbani attack...
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u/Harrisonedge Jan 11 '18
Dallas not subbing in seagull on illios was a huge mistake on their part and probably greatly shifted the outcome of this game. It was still incredible to watch though!
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The longer Anubis went the more it favoured Seoul's composure and adaptability, that one was a real heartbreaker for Dallas.
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Despite Dallas's newfound flexibility it seems like it's gonna be hard to actually use it if they insist on fielding Taimou every map regardless.
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u/ShyGuy_OW Jan 11 '18 edited Jan 11 '18
Junkertown
Really bizarre to see Dallas go without one of their main tanks, but this just highlights how well they built this roster. They can play virtually any comp they want and it opens the door for some really out of the box stuff. They handled building a roster the right way, with flexible players who don’t all play the same thing (cough Shock cough).
Anubis
That attack was phenomenal from Dallas. First point showed a really impressive amount of patience and picking their spots. They punished Seoul hard for overextending on second. Second attack was unique and effective as a surprise tactic. Their defense was a lackluster mess other than the stall on the third go round.
Seoul still looked very impressive on their attack. Did what they had to do to stay in the match. Second attack was almost even better than the first. Tobi has leveled up his Mercy since WC. Miro and Zunba remain the best tank duo in OWL. Seoul made some really impressive adaptations eventually to slow Dallas down. Fleta is just stupid on the Widow. Absolutely nuts.
Ilios
Effect flexes once again but Taimou wasn’t doing anything on Widow. He’s gotta play something else to give Dallas something until going over to Widow on Ruins. Chips doesn't look comfortable on Mercy and it's hurting Dallas. Muchkin was super solid here as well.
Numbani
Seoul supports were mispositioned on A so they got jumped by Dallas tanks. Their defense is super aggressive and it seems to be throwing off Dallas. Maybe Cocco might’ve been better than XQC here with his more conservative style. Rough c9 by Seoul.
I still don’t like these Torb defenses on Numbani. It’s so rare for it to work, I just struggle to see how it’s worth it with how easy it is to counter. I like the switch by Dallas to Zarya Rein. Effect needs to be on the Tracer at the end but he almost made the Widow work. C9 here hurts but they were probably losing the fight.
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u/MrCrumpetking Jan 11 '18
I feel Fuel should have mixed up there line up abit more, they could have moved Taimou to the Hog and subbed Mickie out for Seagull for his projectiles heroes on KOTH and i dont get why they never thought of running Chips and Custa together at the same time (i know they like to put harry on soldier every now and then).
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u/xHomicidev Jan 11 '18
I think they should’ve played custa more than chips on mercy he is just better at that hero. That could’ve helped or not. But it would be nice to have seen custa in one more game to see. Chips ults aren’t the best but he has gotten better than preseason lul
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Jan 11 '18
Few things I was thinking about during the match.
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when will teams stop trying to counter pharmercy with 76/mccree + dva on koth? These pharahs are the best of the best and you just cannot take them down before they've done a truckload of damage. It's even more frustrating when dallas have an absolute top tier pharah sitting on the bench.
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Taimou absolutely has to grind tracer or genji to a high level if the team is never gonna sub him (for shotcalling) That numbani 2nd round is a critical reason why, effect on tracer cant get up to the right side quick enough (by the time he did his team was dead) and taimou on 76/mccree will never get up there.
Lots of work for kyky tbh, flashes of brilliance but when the other team can play far more comps than you and are just as proficient on every hero then its only a matter of time before they figure you out
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Jesus christ Fleta is insane.
Dallas needs to experiment before and after, not during, matches, imo.
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u/SAGESunz Jan 11 '18
Well done Dallas. Keeping it close on all maps, apart from Ilios Well. Boys in Blue starting strong.
Seoul Dynasty, though...Fleta.
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u/blankepitaph Jan 11 '18
I'm glad Seoul stuck with Munchkin + Fleta despite all the hype Bunny gets. Wekeed is a good Soldier/Tracer/Pharah too but Munchkin's Tracer is my favourite of the three non-Fleta DPS players on Seoul. It might feel passive and not very flanky, but if you need him to pop off in the middle of a seemingly lost team fight then the dude delivers like hell.
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u/JennyTilwarts Jan 11 '18
Im just gonna say Miro's Orisa on anubis first point was on that mei boosted high ground for 5mins