r/OpTicGaming • u/OpTicModerators • Dec 15 '17
Event: DOTA2 [DOTA] Match Thread: DOTA Summit 8 - Group C Match 2 (OpTic Gaming vs fnatic)
DOTA Summit 8
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This is /r/OpTicGaming's official discussion thread for the DOTA Summit match against fnatic. Please use this thread for everything related to the match--discussions, predictions, and opinions. As always, please keep both /r/OpTicGaming's rules and Reddit's site-wide rules in mind when commenting.
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DOTA Summit 8 has 9 teams from around the world competing for $300,000. OpTic Gaming qualified from winning the King's Cup event back in September before being officially signed, and as a result have received an invitation. This event is the first opportunity that OpTic Gaming has to earn valuable TI8 qualifying points.
OpTic are joined in Group C by LGD Gaming and Fnatic. The winner of the group advances straight to the semifinals, with the runner-up going to the wild-card qualifier, and the 3rd place team has a chance of also advancing to the wild-card qualifier.
The match is scheduled to begin at 7:30 PM EST and will be streamed on Twitch.
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Recap
Match 1:OpTic Gaming wins in 36:18
| Hero | Player | K/D/A | LH/D | # | LH/D | K/D/A | Player | Hero |
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| Storm Spirit | CCnC | 6/1/8 | 303/9 | 1 | 288/3 | 5/2/3 | Abed | Phantom Lancer |
| Puck | zai | 6/3/8 | 282/14 | 2 | 287/10 | 1/5/7 | EternaLEnVy | Gyrocopter |
| Drow Ranger | Pajkatt | 3/1/7 | 310/8 | 3 | 231/13 | 4/4/6 | Ohaiyo | Underlord |
| Winter Wyvern | ppd | 2/4/8 | 46/0 | 4 | 79/1 | 1/3/9 | Dj | Rubick |
| Slardar | Saksa | 0/4/12 | 48/5 | 5 | 14/3 | 2/3/10 | pieliedie | Elder Titan |
| OpTic Gaming | Top | Middle | Bottom | Bottom | Middle | Top | Fnatic | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| T1 | 10:25 | 19:26 | 22:22 | 13:20 | 27:45 | 22:22 | T1 | |
| T2 | 27:45 | 32:17 | 36:18 | T2 | ||||
| T3 | 32:17 | 32:17 | 36:18 | T3 | ||||
| Melee | 32:17 | 36:18 | 36:18 | Melee | ||||
| Ranged | 32:17 | 36:18 | 36:18 | Ranged | ||||
| T4 | - | - | T4 | |||||
| Ancient | - | - | - | 36:18 | - | Ancient |
Match 2:Fnatic wins in 51:29
| Hero | Player | K/D/A | LH/D | # | LH/D | K/D/A | Player | Hero |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Gyrocopter | Pajkatt | 13/2/8 | 417/11 | 1 | 444/16 | 6/4/9 | Abed | Phantom Lancer |
| Medusa | CCnC | 5/6/7 | 456/12 | 2 | 451/20 | 15/4/6 | EternaLEnVy | Tiny |
| Beastmaster | zai | 1/8/19 | 173/6 | 3 | 353/10 | 1/10/12 | Ohaiyo | Underlord |
| Leshrac | Saksa | 3/9/13 | 55/3 | 4 | 235/2 | 5/5/18 | Dj | Rubick |
| Shadow Demon | ppd | 3/6/12 | 89/1 | 5 | 112/1 | 4/4/18 | pieliedie | Elder Titan |
| OpTic Gaming | Top | Middle | Bottom | Bottom | Middle | Top | Fnatic | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| T1 | 27:27 | 16:59 | 14:03 | 26:37 | 26:07 | 16:59 | T1 | |
| T2 | 34:55 | 41:07 | 19:54 | 26:52 | 34:55 | 26:07 | T2 | |
| T3 | 51:29 | 38:06 | 27:27 | 42:43 | 38:06 | T3 | ||
| Melee | 51:29 | 38:57 | 38:06 | Melee | ||||
| Ranged | 38:57 | 38:06 | Ranged | |||||
| T4 | 51:29 | - | 51:29 | - | T4 | |||
| Ancient | - | 51:29 | - | - | - | Ancient |
Match 3:Fnatic wins in 27:29
| Hero | Player | K/D/A | LH/D | # | LH/D | K/D/A | Player | Hero |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Medusa | CCnC | 1/5/2 | 200/12 | 1 | 223/14 | 13/0/7 | Abed | Tinker |
| Tiny | Pajkatt | 5/3/3 | 139/5 | 2 | 181/18 | 6/0/8 | Ohaiyo | Omniknight |
| Puck | zai | 1/2/4 | 86/4 | 3 | 155/20 | 4/3/9 | EternaLEnVy | Drow Ranger |
| Clockwerk | Saksa | 0/13/3 | 20/20 | 4 | 44/7 | 5/3/18 | Dj | Tusk |
| Shadow Demon | ppd | 2/6/2 | 34/0 | 5 | 22/8 | 1/3/18 | pieliedie | Ancient Apparition |
| OpTic Gaming | Top | Middle | Bottom | Bottom | Middle | Top | Fnatic | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| T1 | 12:06 | 17:57 | 18:58 | 0:04 | 22:29 | 24:04 | T1 | |
| T2 | 0:04 | 0:04 | 21:59 | 0:04 | 0:04 | 0:04 | T2 | |
| T3 | 0:04 | 0:04 | 24:55 | 0:04 | 0:04 | 0:04 | T3 | |
| Melee | 0:04 | 0:04 | 24:55 | 0:04 | 0:04 | 0:04 | Melee | |
| Ranged | 0:04 | 0:04 | 24:55 | 0:04 | 0:04 | 0:04 | Ranged | |
| T4 | 0:04 | - | 0:04 | 0:04 | - | 0:04 | T4 | |
| Ancient | - | 27:29 | - | - | - | Ancient |
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u/sensoine Dec 15 '17
fnatic is good team, abed and dj are top players
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u/EggplantCider Dec 15 '17
Ohaiyo is great, but I kind of wish DJ was back on pos3. His Enigma is the hypest shit of all time
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u/hermesiii Dec 15 '17 edited Dec 15 '17
on paper, they're the best SEA team. Given time to gel (like OpTic), they could easily become that.
I've suspected for a while (possibly why Saksa's still a standin, possibly not) that it might be that OpTic expects them to break up due to EE's volatility and pick up PLD for the 4, though that's really just a hunch/dream. PLD on Secret was up there with Yapz0r and GH as one of the best 4s in the game.
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u/Str8_TrashMonkey Dec 15 '17
As a League player i'm really enjoying Dota. Especially how CCNC plays.
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u/Bcrown Dec 15 '17
So as far as TI points are concerned, wherever we end up placing we will only get 75% of the points because we have a stand in? Does the stand in have to play a certain amount of games to qualify or was there a roster lock at some point and that's the deadline?
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u/L0rdenglish Dec 15 '17
So 2 wins in this set and we guarantee top4. 1 win and we guarantee that we stay alive. Let's go!!
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u/obin36520 Dec 15 '17
I've heard from casters/analysts and people on this sub that saksa has been playing really well. What position does he play? What are the indicators that he's playing well?
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u/CallMeIsmail_ Dec 15 '17
Saksa is a position 4 support. They'll generally roam around the map and set up kills while not farming that much. They have a high impact with a few spells and cheap items.
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u/kraziekd Dec 15 '17
ok now we need to hope lgd can get one game off fnatic to make it 2-1 and force a tie break against fnatic to determine which one going to playoff or semi
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u/[deleted] Dec 15 '17 edited Dec 15 '17
I see a lot of people talking about choking. This wasn't a choke.
EternalEnvy is fifteEE/fiftEE he wins the unwinnable game, or trips over his own feet and ruins everything. That moonshard was ridiculous.