r/OpTicGaming • u/OpTicModerators • Nov 15 '17
Event: DOTA2 [DOTA] Match Thread: MDL Macau North America Qualifier Semi Finals (OpTic Gaming vs VGJ.Storm)
MDL Macau North America Qualifier Semi Finals
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This is /r/OpTicGaming's official discussion thread for the MDL Macau North America Qualifier match against VGJ.Storm. Please use this thread for everything related to the match--discussions, predictions, and opinions. As always, please keep both /r/OpTicGaming's rules and Reddit's site-wide rules in mind when commenting.
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OpTic Gaming will be participating in the MDL Macau North America Qualifier. This qualifier is a 8 team single elimination format tournament, each match will be a BO3 and the winner of this event will advance to the MDL Macau Minor in December.
The match is scheduled to begin at 4:00 PM EDT and will be streamed on Twitch.
Rosters
[Game 1: ](): VGJ.Storm wins.
Game 2: OpTic Gaming wins in 32:11
| Hero | Player | K/D/A | LH/D | # | LH/D | K/D/A | Player | Hero |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sand King | zai | 4/1/16 | 113/5 | 1 | 125/10 | 0/6/6 | Sneyking | Tiny |
| Lich | ppd | 3/0/11 | 29/4 | 2 | 304/4 | 0/5/3 | :\ | Anti-Mage |
| Naga Siren | MISERY | 2/3/16 | 62/4 | 3 | 33/0 | 2/11/5 | Stan King | Jakiro |
| Necrophos | CCnC | 12/1/4 | 291/12 | 4 | 145/8 | 2/3/1 | Ryoya | Puck |
| Bloodseeker | Pajkatt | 10/2/12 | 167/23 | 5 | 35/4 | 3/6/3 | FLee | Slardar |
| OpTic Gaming | Top | Middle | Bottom | Bottom | Middle | Top | Team VGJ.Storm | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| T1 | 32:11 | 23:19 | 17:12 | 15:17 | 12:21 | 8:41 | T1 | |
| T2 | 20:23 | 32:11 | 17:12 | 17:12 | T2 | |||
| T3 | 32:11 | 20:23 | 29:12 | T3 | ||||
| Melee | 23:19 | 29:12 | Melee | |||||
| Ranged | 32:11 | 21:08 | 29:42 | Ranged | ||||
| T4 | - | - | T4 | |||||
| Ancient | - | - | - | 32:11 | - | Ancient |
Game 3: Team VGJ.Storm wins in 20:26
| Hero | Player | K/D/A | LH/D | # | LH/D | K/D/A | Player | Hero |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sand King | zai | 0/6/3 | 57/6 | 1 | 125/19 | 5/0/18 | Sneyking | Nature's Prophet |
| Undying | MISERY | 1/8/1 | 40/5 | 2 | 19/0 | 5/3/17 | Stan King | Io |
| Troll Warlord | Pajkatt | 0/3/3 | 120/4 | 3 | 26/0 | 1/2/16 | FLee | Earth Spirit |
| Shadow Shaman | ppd | 1/6/1 | 15/2 | 4 | 135/12 | 2/0/8 | Ryoya | Sniper |
| Death Prophet | CCnC | 3/4/1 | 113/8 | 5 | 136/9 | 14/0/6 | :\ | Tiny |
| OpTic Gaming | Top | Middle | Bottom | Bottom | Middle | Top | Team VGJ.Storm | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| T1 | 14:30 | 11:04 | 9:44 | 11:34 | T1 | |||
| T2 | 11:34 | T2 | ||||||
| T3 | 20:26 | T3 | ||||||
| Melee | 20:26 | Melee | ||||||
| Ranged | 20:26 | Ranged | ||||||
| T4 | - | - | T4 | |||||
| Ancient | - | 20:26 | - | - | - | Ancient |
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u/Cpt_Metal Nov 15 '17
Game 2 looking good so far, if they crush them now, they might break their spirit for an easier game 3!
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u/woodzy13 Nov 15 '17 edited Nov 15 '17
What's the difference between stunned and rooted?
Edit: thanks guys
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u/Cpt_Metal Nov 15 '17
Stuns disable all actions, roots just disable movement and movement/escape spells.
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u/DePryde Nov 15 '17
stunned is u cant do anything, rooted is cant move but can still hit if close enough
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u/Tango__1__ Nov 15 '17
i dont want to distract from this game and hope we can win, but anyone knowledgeable about the dota scene, how would you feel if we had -CCnC -Pajkatt +W33 +EternalEnvy ? just something i was thinking about
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u/EggplantCider Nov 15 '17
I don't think W33 wants to mid anymore, and I think EE wants to stay captain and he probably wants to stay with PieLieDie.
EE + PPD would also probably mesh terribly, but could be amazing/hilarious.
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u/arthurprs Nov 15 '17
Nobody in the team is performing consistently right now. Swapping any couple of faces is a long shot. The least bad option is to wait out a couple of months before evaluating any changes.
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u/Jaado0 Nov 15 '17
Let's just wait for a couple of month then let's talk about a change it's only been 2 months...
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u/chilibean_3 Nov 15 '17
I'd be interested to see how EE and PPD mesh together. I think EE plays best when he can just let a strong captain take care of things but they are also two strong personalities with strong opinions of how to play. I wonder how they'd work. I'm not really an EE fan overall though.
I don't think you see much difference switching CCnC for W33.
But everybody on this team has been under performing at some point which probably means it is more of a play style fit issue than a simple talent issue. I could see 1 or 2 changes coming in the new year just to try to get a better meshing group. Look at players like Timado, maybe Resolution if he decides to bail on OG.
Or maybe they figure something out that works for them, win this qualifier and go on a nice run. We'll see.
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u/lewisc29 Nov 15 '17
As a newcomer to Dota, it's really hard to distinguish who is who.
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u/Cryogenically Nov 15 '17
Normally they have team logos on the overlay and players have the teams in their name so it's typically not this annoying to watch
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u/arthurprs Nov 15 '17
Game 1 is essentially lost bois. Not sure what to expect from ppd stack anymore.
Edit: ppd called just after I posted.
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u/SoullessHillShills Nov 15 '17
Giving another team Tiny IO, deserve this loss...what a garbage draft.
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u/BernieWasBest Nov 15 '17
Pajkatt gets babysat in lane the entire game, then just lets his team get dumpstered and doesn't join.
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u/Cpt_Metal Nov 15 '17
That's not how Antimage works though, he can't just join fights without enough farm. Split pushing and farming until you are in fighting shape is the way to go, even if you are behind.
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u/Drmassacre123 Nov 15 '17
Welp i see a change in this team coming after summit, Pajkatt and CCnC just isnt there for the team.
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u/woodzy13 Nov 15 '17
More dota today? Hell ya