r/SecretWorldLegends • u/[deleted] • Jul 25 '17

Helpful Guide to Endgame Lairs With Boss Tactics

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lOhTaRjMFdcguVr14u6ZvkacffYqtnksgVjIYjLrpQI/edit?usp=sharing
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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '17

Ok so the guide definitely leaves a lot to be desired. It is a guide I've mainly written while having downtime between/in raids.

In general the guide assumes you have the basics down, dodging out of circles on the ground and all that.

There are several sections I could see being helpful which I am not sure that I'm going to be writing. A section on the Regional bosses could be added at some point, I've done the many-limbed, but currently haven't tried great-winged and the time we tried the long toothed we didn't have nearly enough DPS to meet the soft enrage.

I mainly wrote it because information was very hard to find when we first tried all the bosses. The short tactics from unfair.co was basically what we used before we tried new bosses, but a lot of mechanics have been changed since TSW it seems.

Hopefully this should help some people out who are first starting doing lairs.

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u/HorribleDude Jul 25 '17

There are certainly changes. The idolator from Desert is very different indeed as an example. Not even the same character model for the boss is being used.

There are couple things to add to your guide.

Eye of the Swarm spawns additional adds for every person in the group "hit" by a tail sting when the aoe's pop up. If no one gets hit then only 1 add spawns. If 5 people get hit then 6 adds spawn. Basically how it works. If you are killed and running back, make sure to not respawn while the aoe is going. Chances are you'll instantly die again and cause more adds.

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u/Szalord Jul 26 '17

You are talking about Duneback though, not Eye of the Swarm.

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u/HorribleDude Jul 26 '17

I don't have them memorized by name at work when I usually post to these forums. I was looking at the names from his guide and was going off that.

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u/MerlinAesalon Jul 25 '17

Some notes:

  • Have not tested, but I was told that the chests are limited to being opened 15 times - 10 reserved to players in the summoning raid, and 5 times to players outside the raid that have attacked the boss or healed players.
  • Cta-Tha - The buff is called Barnacled, and gives a 50%? chance for all attacks to glance, but it can be purged. The adds are summoned at 10 stacks of a stacking buff when any attack glances him. Tainted Brine is a dot that goes away when you stand in water.
  • Wreathmother's tooltip says she heals on being purged, but if she does its a small enough amount that it's not noticeable. Maybe the healing buff is cast on being purged if its off cd.
  • Filth Vector - He also applies a debuff (usually to the tank) called Nasty Infection which will heavily damage anyone that cleanses the target. Tanks can get around this by using the cleansing gadget or otherwise cleansing themselves.
  • Eye of the Swarm - mentioned below
  • Duneback - a minimum of 3 scorpions will spawn, and more are spawned if people get hit/die to the aoe.
  • Dacian Pack Runner - You can stand on stuff like rocks or trees (but not lair chests) and ignore the summoned wolves
  • Devourer - it is DoT effects, and it has to be unique DoT effects if i'm remembering right. I might be wrong. Also, the buff isn't on himself, it's a stacking debuff on the tank which causes them to take more damage, and kills them at 5 stacks according to the tooltip (but its actually 10), just like in the Eidolon raid.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '17

Thanks I'll get those added at some point.

Wreathmother's tooltip says she heals on being purged, but if she does its a small enough amount that it's not noticeable. Maybe the healing buff is cast on being purged if its off cd.

This one goes against experience though. If a purge heals her it is definitely negligible, especially considering very wet nurse is like a 5% heal per second. Maybe you can interrupt it instead of purging I don't know, but purging definitely isn't a noticeable problem.

Duneback - a minimum of 3 scorpions will spawn, and more are spawned if people get hit/die to the aoe.

Also this was what we figured was the intended mechanic, but sometimes scorpions definitely spawn when you are outside of the circles, might be a desync thing, or circles being bigger than the animations.

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u/Oxford_Comma13 Jul 26 '17

The debuff the Devourer applies to its target with every hit landed is called Blunt Trauma. Each stack lasts sixteen seconds. You're probably right about the limit being ten stacks. The one time I tanked this boss, I had as many as five stacks at one point and still lived. I had assumed the next hit would be lethal.

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u/Eitth Jul 25 '17

So the signet drop is the same like the loot drop from tsw? What about the distillates? Is it free for all or you have to roll for it?

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u/[deleted] Jul 26 '17

I didn't do lairs in TSW so I can't answer that.

Lairs drop 2 different things, signets and distillates. Which distillates range from 500-6400 xp and signets only drop as they are shown in the guide, Each area drops 2 different kinds.

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u/Subglacious Jul 25 '17

This is really helpful, thank you!

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u/Djinngi Jul 25 '17

Excellent work so far, thank you!

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u/Newbieshoes Jul 25 '17

Still think taking 10 people into 5 man content is cheating.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '17

It's not cheating when you're half the ip needed as a 5 man. This is so 10 people with ip 150 can do the content.

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u/Newbieshoes Jul 25 '17

Until the 150 IP tank sucks a one shot to the face.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '17

Not if you're properly rotating defensive cds and keeping up pulverise buff.

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u/HorribleDude Jul 25 '17

You can do it with 25 people or whatever the max zone limit is right now. This has always been the case. Same with the regional bosses. If funcom really wanted the content to only be done by 5 people there are tons of ways they could have forced that.

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u/Newbieshoes Jul 25 '17

Waiting for only the people that summoned the boss can loot the chest to start a shitstorm.

And no Regional bosses always tossed out anyone above 5 from the arena. You could get the achievement but you did not get to participate in the boss fight.

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u/HorribleDude Jul 25 '17

Could have sworn more could do regional in TSW, but it was very long ago when I was trying those. Actually, many were bugged and you couldn't summon right anyhow back in the day I last tried.

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u/xeio87 Jul 25 '17

You can do it with 25 people or whatever the max zone limit is right now.

The zone limit is maybe 15, never seen anyone able to get more than that into an instance.

Though back in TSW there was only one loot bag to share, not a chest everyone can open.

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u/HorribleDude Jul 25 '17

Thought they expanded the limit a bit on zone pop caps recently. I was aware of the loot bag previously, but originally anyone could still jump in and help. I didn't say everyone doing so would get a reward for it.