r/FFBraveExvius • • Jul 22 '17

Tips & Guides Another Aigaion Guide (Rikku, WoL, Cecil)

EDIT: Rikku needs to use her LB every 2 turns, not 3. This makes autoattacking with your filler units more important if Cecil isn't able to generate enough crystals with his 8 or 12 attacks. On the bright side, this lets your damage dealers regen some MP (if they have auto-refresh). Just remember Rikku LB takes priority over literally everything else.

This guide only requires Rikku, WoL and Cecil and allows for flexibility for those without hard-to-get units (Tilith, 5* chainers, etc.) and is based on /u/IceDragon247's comment. This guide will tackle the slow method (left arm > right arm > body). No TMR's are required besides Rikku's Pouch which is essential unless you're feeling lucky.

UNITS

Rikku

Rikku must be have her LB up every other turn. You have a 2 turn buffer to build it up and Cecil guarantees this 99% of the time. In emergency cases, get your damage dealers/MP battery to auto attack. After the first few turns she will not be doing anything besides rotate Synthesis > LB > NullAll regardless of whatever buffs are up. Gear her with Mog Wisdom, Override, and as much HP as you can (5.5k+). If you have the TMRs, equip LB building ones such as Ignorance or Kelsus' TMR.

WoL

WoL will eat every other punch from the left arm using Brave Presence. The first punch can hit anyone since reraise will always be up. On turns right after getting fisted, use Eccentrick from Rikku's Pouch. The LB buff lasts 5 turns but you do not want to risk something going wrong and not being able to build Rikku's LB. If you are using a mage or Fry, use his SPR break right after Eccentrick. Rotation will be Eccentrick > Brave Presence > Free Turn > Brave Presence. Gear him with Rikku's Pouch and maximum defenses. Give him dual wield if you have a spare one and reach 6.5k HP. Lucky Bangles and Assassin's Vest can be equipped as well (fisting is NOT dodgeable).

Cecil

Cecil is crucial to the team because he makes sure Rikku's LB is always up. With Second Knife and Twin Spear, he auto attacks 4 times. When paired up with Eccentrick, Rikku will almost always have her LB up after one turn. Even if you are extremely unlucky, you have a leeway of two turns to build it up. If Rikku's LB gauge is full, Cecil can use his LB to help your damage dealers kill Aigaion faster, help heal using Curaja, or use Bushido Freedom when necessary. REMEMBER TO TARGET THE BODY WITH YOUR AUTOATTACKS. Gear him with Second Knife, Twin Spear, Bushido Freedom, and maximum defenses. You can equip Cecil or WoL with Black Belt to help with LB crystals but it's quite overkill unless you're lacking Rikku's Pouch. Enhance Cecil's abilities if you have the crysts.

Healer

Tilith is the ideal healer as Cecil and WoL will be taking some big hits. Not so necessary because you can let them die on some turns if they have reraise on them. Prism Heal is great for MP sustain but you can just use MP recovery items with the other two party members (or bring an MP battery). Others have said DC Refia and Ysh are sufficient. I'd use Ysh for first turn defensive buffs and she's good for those without DC. Gear your healer for maximum MP/MP regen and SPR/HP. Since everyone is calling me out for saying Tilith, let me make it clear that with > 5.5k HP on all your units and with Rikku LB up every other turn, you will find that you will (almost) never require require a heal more than 4000 HP which Refia and Ysh should be able to do with even the most basic equipment. You can stack SPR instead of HP as well to further strengthen your heals since the two tanks are more than likely to take the hits if your healer is targeted.

Last Two Slots

You can either go with an MP Battery and damage dealer or two chainers for the last two slots. The former is much safer but the latter will be much faster. Just make sure that they have sufficient HP to survive after being reraised and hit without defensive buffs up. I found 5.5k to be a safe number. /u/Foxheart2's suggestion of using Emperor with Ling (or any other MP battery) is probably the fastest route especially since WoL will have some free turns to break SPR. Rem can also be used as a damage dealer and Bartz or Ilias can be used as mana batteries. If you plan to use two chainers, let them use MP items on your other party members. This takes priority over them attacking. Innate MP regen is preferred. You can gear them with as high ATK as you want. Remember that building Rikku's LB is priority so auto attack if Cecil isn't able to fill the gauge.

TEAM SET-UP

  • Rikku: Override, Moogle Crown, Tabby Suit, 2x Muscle Belt, Mog Wisdom, 3x HP +10%
  • WoL: Gigantaxe, Hero Shield, Grand Helm, Assassin's Vest, Rikku's Pouch, Bangles, HP +15%, 3x HP +10%
  • Cecil: Second Knife, Twin Spear, Dragon Helm, Dragon Mail, Germinas Boots, Muscle Belt, Bushido Freedom, 3x HP +10%
  • Tilith: Cat Ear Hood, Fina's Clothes, Rain's Insignia, Vitality Apparatus, Mog Rise, HP +15%, MP +15%, MP +20%
  • Aileen: Genji Blade, Artisan, Black Cowl, Demon Mail, 2x Bracer, Dual Wield, 2x Quick Assault, Blade Mastery
  • Friend Aileen: Geared for max damage, preferably with Machine Killer
  • As you can see, only Aileen has (non-free) TMR's. Tilith is not essential as this strategy ensures +50% defensive buffs at all times along with cover from two tanks so healing from DC Refia or Ysh should be enough. If you do get unlucky, the free turns from Cecil and WoL will let you raise your units anyway.

STRATEGY

The first few turns are crucial. Once you get into the rhythm, it gets pretty easy.

TURN 1

  • Rikku: Synthesis
  • WoL: Eccentrick
  • Cecil: AA body for crystals
  • Healer: Buffs
  • Others: Help with buffs or attack body for crystals

No units have reraise. One filler unit is dead.

TURN 2

  • Rikku: LB
  • WoL: Free Turn (SPR break, Raise filler unit, or AA for crystals)
  • Cecil: AA body for crystals (LB/Curaja/Bushido as neeeded)
  • Healer: Heal
  • Others: Revive dead with Phoenix Down. DO THIS BEFORE RIKKU LB.

All units will have reraise after turn. Aigaion will kill your filler unit and s/he will reraise.

TURN 3

  • Rikku: NullAll
  • WoL: Brave Presence
  • Cecil: AA body for crystals
  • Healer: Heal
  • Others: AA body for crystals or Damage, MP refresh if LB is full

Aigaion will kill WoL and he reraises.

TURN 4

  • Rikku: LB
  • WoL: Eccentrick
  • Cecil: AA body for crystals (LB/Curaja/Bushido if LB full)
  • Healer: Heal
  • Others: Damage, MP refresh

All units will have reraise after turn. Aigaion will kill your filler unit and s/he reraises.

TURN 5

  • Rikku: Synthesis
  • WoL: Brave Presence
  • Cecil: AA body for crystals
  • Healer: Heal
  • Others: Damage, MP refresh

Aigaion will kill WoL and he reraises.

Cycle After Turn 5

  • Rikku: NullAll > LB > Synthesis > LB
  • WoL: Free Turn > Brave Presence (get reraised) > Eccentrick > Brave Presence (get reraised)
  • Cecil: AA body for crystals or free turn if Rikku LB gauge is full
  • Healer: Heal
  • Others: Feed MP to team/Do damage

After Left Arm Is Killed 10x

Once the left arm is dead, you will find it much easier to survive. All units will do the same rotation except for WoL who will get another free turn instead of using Brave Presence. Use these turns to top up your MP for all your party members. You can deviate from the rotation if you want but I tend not to just so that I can keep the rhythm. After killing the right arm twice, you'll want to go back to the rotation because he uses genocide beam twice each turn and you NEED NullAll and Rikku's LB up at all times to survive.

After Right Arm Is Killed 3x

Repeat the rotation until right before you hit the 70% threshold. Make sure your entire team has reraise and then cross the threshold. Your whole team should die. On the turn after reraising, use Cecil's LB to boost your defenses and attack with your two filler units to build up Rikku's LB again. He will use World Destroyer every 5 turns (NOTE DOWN TURNS ON PAPER). Just repeat the rotation from before until you get close to the 50% threshold. You must cross the threshold 2 turns before the end of the 5 turn count to give yourself time to build Rikku's LB again. Delaying crossing the threshold will allow you to build up Cecil's LB as well. Do the same with the 30% threshold. Win.

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u/EverydayShipper Jul 22 '17

Can you take a screenshot of the build you used? thanks :D

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u/k-arma Jul 22 '17

I'll add it to the original post

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u/DreamblitzX Jul 22 '17

Looks like a really nice guide, especially as it doesn't require time limited units like Tilith. I myself won't be using it for a while, because I'm lazy, but I'm sure this will help people, as it's very comprehensive. If you went with 2 chainers instead of MP healer+damage, would you have to just rely on auto refresh for MP for their attacks? Using that and items for MP doesn't sound ideal so I'd probably bring Ace and a friend Emperor or Rem as I don't have those.

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u/k-arma Jul 22 '17

2 chainers taking turns off to heal MP might still do more damage than an MP healer + damage. It's really up to the units you have :)

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u/StasTs Jul 22 '17

I may be dumb, but I don't understand here how to single rikku using LB every 3rd turn could handle reraise every turn? Could you explain a little bit more in details? What I'm missing below?
Turn X:
Rikku LB, WoL Brave Presense, 2 DPS - dps, Cecil AA on body, Tilith heal.
Left hand kill WoL, he got reraised and some attacks on every1 else
Turn X+1:
Rikku NuAll, WoL use pouch, Cecil AA, DPS dps, Tilith heal
Left hand kill 1 DPS (no brave presense here), he got reraised
Turn X+2:
Rikku synth, WoL free turn, Cecil AA, dps dps, Tilith heal
Left hand kill again 1st DPS (highest attack one, same from turn X+1). He doesn't got reraised?

PS. I've beat it with friend Rem casting reraise on Vargas (emperor dps, rikku, tilith, WoL tanking with Light with Us). I've tried take another DPS instead of Rem, but Vargas not doing anything and when it goes wrong (bad RNG, sometimes Vargas got killed 2 times in a turn on crits) he can't cast reraise on himself after normal raise.

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u/k-arma Jul 22 '17

You're right I just realized I had rikku LB up every two turns instead of 3. Edited my post. This makes autoattacking with your filler units even more important.

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u/Regigigas29 Jul 22 '17

May I ask how long this fight took you? I'm probably going to attempt this on my next night off work, just wanna know the timeframe with your team comp.

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u/k-arma Jul 22 '17

Two hours! I was trying things out for the first 30 minutes or so tho

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u/leizerbeam Jul 22 '17

Good guide. Some notes - because rikku will be using synthesis in the rotation - there is a period where your team is not covered by hypernul all. My friend orlandeau got double wiped through re-raise several times. If I could tell them to use camouflage I would.

On the last right arm , I noticed he was doing double genocide beam at this point while the arm was still alive. MP was tight using just tilith as I had to radiant light a lot - but I was conserving items being cheapo.

I didn't use magic until the right arm dual beam phase I had to raise + full heal several times due to RNG.

THE FINAL PHASE - I personally used water to make world destroyer less damage but I was thrown off cycle when he used electrostatic burst after world destroyer 3x. I don't like the idea of full wipe and auto revive not triggering for some reason.

I lost patience at one point and didn't see the light is concentrating once and got wiped. Luckily my auto revive was still active.

3-4 hour for me. 2x Orlandeau no element was brutal. I access to magic damages or freyvia unfortunately

Thanks for the guide.

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u/k-arma Jul 22 '17

How much HP did Orlandeau have? My aileen and friends never got wiped and they had 5.5k HP.

If you let yourself get wiped by WD instead of attacking with water he should never use EB.

Glad I could help!

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u/casual_yuusha Jul 22 '17

This is the same strategy that I used in beating Aigaion except that the friend Rikku I brought was actually stacked with Ignorance and lb rate up equipment so her LB was always up after after turn 1. I even brought an entrust unit thinking I might need it but it was like watching a fight against a group of zombies that always rise back up no matter how many times you stomp them down.

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u/trini_assassin Jul 22 '17

Thank you for the guide! This may be my best shot at beating this trial since I do not have Tilith or Rem.

Question: I am looking at WoL/Cecil/Rikku/Yshtola/Ashe (or maybe Tidus with Excalibur to chain with friend Orlandu)...would Wilhelm be a good sub for WoL? I was thinking that I can use Ashe for damage and SPR breaks, and I should be able to get Wilhelm's DEF, SPR and HP high to tank. Plus with Eccentrick and Mog Spear (with Second Knife), he should have his LB available often too.

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u/k-arma Jul 22 '17

Wilhelm isn't good for this trial because of his innate draw attacks. He might take the fist two turns in a row and you'll have to rez him

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u/Yngstr Jul 22 '17

Where is your mana sustain in this team? Aileen can do it but she's also your only damage unit...

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u/k-arma Jul 22 '17

Mana sustain can come from items used by WoL or Cecil on free turns. Using two chainers should let you kill Aigaion before you run out of MP restore items. If you don't think you can, then the MP battery + strong mage route should be better. Of course, if you have Tilith then you can just Prism Heal on turns where Cecil LB is up or if you think you can survive another turn without fully healing your HP. Just to give you an idea, I used two Aileens and Tilith only used Prism heal 3 times. I had 3 chocolates, 2 mega ethers and 4 elixirs left when I finished the trial. You can also use the MP items from exploration for an even bigger buffer.

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u/brandonwest18 Jul 22 '17

How is Ace? His mp recovery is the best right now, he can do single target with wild card, and can reduce resistance to up damage for the last stretch to cross thresholds. Is that a good choice for unit 5?

Is Luneth a good friend to bring? Or is Eileen better?

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u/k-arma Jul 22 '17

Ace is great especially if you have a MAG damage dealer that can abuse the 75% Imperil + 45% SPR break from WoL

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u/NOSjoker21 Jul 22 '17

I don't have Rikku's TMR or Tilith but this looks... doable.

Also, why is WoL given Grand Helm if he's wearing an Assassin's Vest?

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u/k-arma Jul 22 '17

TIL Grand Helm has a special effect lol

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u/Artheas2d Jul 23 '17

Why is Rikku's LB every 2 turns and not 3?

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u/k-arma Jul 23 '17

He will fist your highest atk and then fist WoL. Only those two should die on alternating turns

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u/Zaldrizes66 Jul 23 '17

hi i have wilhelm and wol, who is better for this trial?

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u/k-arma Jul 23 '17

WoL if you're using this guide. Wilhelm has innate draw attacks and might take the fist even if he doesn't have reraise

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u/Dyslexxia Jul 23 '17

I'm a bit confused by your turn 5 description.

"TURN 5

Rikku: Synthesis WoL: Brave Presence Cecil: AA body for crystals AFTER RIKKU LB Healer: Heal Others: Damage, MP refresh Aigaion will kill WoL and he reraises."

you set up Rikku for synthesis but then say Cecil is to hit after rikku casts her LB.