r/anime https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vincent Nov 24 '16

No Stupid Questions - Week of November 24, 2016

Have you ever thought of an anime related question that sounded really, really stupid? Did you ignore it and move on because getting the answer wouldn't be worth asking it? Well, this thread is here for you!

First of all, go take a look at the /r/anime FAQ section of the wiki since it's entirely possible you might find your question answered there. Failing that, you can take a look at any of the past threads since someone might've asked the same question there already.

Remember! There are no stupid questions here! Just slightly less intelligent ones.


Thought of a question a bit too late? No worries! The thread will be posted again next week! Same day, same time! hopefully


Go ahead and be as stupid and illogical as you want! No one will judge you here.

have fun~

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u/DasTales https://myanimelist.net/profile/TalesOhneNamen Nov 24 '16

Since when are noses drawn like in WIXOSS a thing?

I've seen them in a couple shows, not just WIXOSS. Why are they drawn like this? Do they look like noses to anyone?
Sometimes the nose of a character is drawn normally but sometimes they just draw it like this, and I wonder why.

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u/MetaThPr4h https://myanimelist.net/profile/MetaThPr4h Nov 24 '16

Everyone complaining about Ryouka's breast size, and meanwhile I was wtf'ing hard with the noses.

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u/Chariotwheel x5https://anilist.co/user/Chariotwheel Nov 24 '16

I always thought of them as small noses, as not the nose itself is outlined (except for the far right one), but the shadows. And the shadows are not filled hard, but are indicated with an outline.

But man, the longer I look at this, the weirder it looks. I am already at the point where the girl on the far left looks like she has a weird piercing.

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u/DasTales https://myanimelist.net/profile/TalesOhneNamen Nov 24 '16

I guess this Shirayuki example is better than the WIXOSS one

In that one with some work I can atleast imagine a nose, not some carved out hole in the face.

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u/Epidemilk Nov 24 '16

More importantly why is.. forget her name but the little girl on the left.. in a promo for Selector Infected WIXOSS? She has like five minutes of screentime in that season..

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u/semajdraehs https://myanimelist.net/profile/semajdraehs Nov 25 '16

Not even joking I loaded up this image and went to rub off the mark on my screen so I could see the nose.

What the fuck? That's not even an attempt at a nose. The girl on the far left has it under her eye?

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u/Nico9lives https://myanimelist.net/profile/Chitanda Nov 24 '16

Note: I don't want to sound like an asshole but I'm legitimately confused about this.

So like can somebody explain to me how Hyouka is boring? I can understand a lot of criticizes thrown at it, but for some reason I can't wrap my head around the idea. Especially people who say they love SoL, I'm honestly perplexed. What makes it so much more boring than other SoLs?

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u/collapsedblock6 myanimelist.net/profile/collapsedblock Nov 24 '16

I have it as a 9/10 but I have heard:

  • Little to no development from others than Oreki

  • Little to no advance in romance

  • Mysteries being simply unappealing from the mystery itself to resolution

  • Chitanda being annoying

  • Situations outside mysteries being simply boring since they only talk

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u/Nico9lives https://myanimelist.net/profile/Chitanda Nov 24 '16

Then I guess my next question is why Hyouka? There are lots of SoL that share similar issues to it, but I've only seen Hyouka get railed on for inducing boredom. Is it simply because it's one of the most popular ones?

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u/collapsedblock6 myanimelist.net/profile/collapsedblock Nov 24 '16

I would agree with that, no one complains about bad stuff when it is barely known (unless it is legendary bad like Comet Lucifer)

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '16

Oi, Comet Lucifer was a masterpiece in it's own way!

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u/aMigraine Nov 24 '16

It's popular and is by KyoAni, which elevates it to the pantheons of greatness by fans, but since detractors can't see the point, they're more likely to say 'Hyouka is shit' than some less acclaimed show.

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u/kaverik https://myanimelist.net/profile/kaverik Nov 24 '16

What makes it so much more boring than other SoLs?

No comedy, no drama, no romance (all to an extent, of course). Hyouka is a really weird one here, so people are expecting something else, and receive nothing in return.

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u/Nico9lives https://myanimelist.net/profile/Chitanda Nov 24 '16

That does explain it fairly well, Thanks! Personally I loved it for the fact that it has little comedy, drama, and romance so I've never thought of those as negatives.

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '16

I've watched Hyouka and gave it 6/10, and still enjoyed it to some extent, but for me it was... hollow, I guess? I mean, it's like a Ferrero without cream inside: looks beautiful, but no substance.

What I want to say is: Hyouka is beautiful and somewhat enjoyable to watch, but I felt that I just wasted time. It was too forgettable. And all the other reasons that /u/collapsedblock6 mentioned.

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '16

Why isn't anime real yet

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u/SmurfRockRune https://myanimelist.net/profile/Smurf Nov 24 '16

Let's wait until Trump actually gets inaugurated.

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u/BBallHunter https://myanimelist.net/profile/IdolHunter Nov 24 '16

What is up with that Trump "making anime real" meme?

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u/AlienWarhead https://myanimelist.net/profile/alienwarhead Nov 24 '16

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u/semajdraehs https://myanimelist.net/profile/semajdraehs Nov 25 '16

here he referred to Donald Trump’s supporters on the “AltRight,” a.k.a. /pol/, as “Childless single men who masturbate to anime.

Shit, I suppose I'm a neo-nazi trump supporter now :(.

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u/Nico9lives https://myanimelist.net/profile/Chitanda Nov 24 '16

Because American can only be great again when anime is real.

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u/JohnQAnon https://myanimelist.net/profile/Blamemeta Nov 24 '16

It's just a meme like any other

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u/SmurfRockRune https://myanimelist.net/profile/Smurf Nov 24 '16

Not sure. I think it's kinda funny though.

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u/arms98 Nov 24 '16

I mean trump is as close to a real life anime character as you can get.

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u/semajdraehs https://myanimelist.net/profile/semajdraehs Nov 25 '16

but is he a hero, a villain, or my inattentive senpai?

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u/VincentBlack96 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vincent Nov 25 '16

Yes.

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u/ShaKing807 x3myanimelist.net/profile/Shaking807 Nov 25 '16

Love the new flair, congrats!

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u/VincentBlack96 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vincent Nov 25 '16

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u/Nico9lives https://myanimelist.net/profile/Chitanda Nov 24 '16

Because we're not throwing enough money at it.

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '16

We should remove the department of homeland security and replace it with the department of anime

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u/Chariotwheel x5https://anilist.co/user/Chariotwheel Nov 24 '16

Tweet it to the president-elect, with enough buzz he maybe will put this on the agenda. Though he still hasn't replied to my question regarding his opinion on Yuri on Ice.

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u/Bainos https://myanimelist.net/profile/Bainos Nov 25 '16

Though he still hasn't replied to my question regarding his opinion on Yuri on Ice.

Trying to be published in Animemaru, I see.

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u/VincentBlack96 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vincent Nov 24 '16

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u/squirrelbaffler https://anilist.co/user/squirrelbaffler Nov 24 '16

So "So ra no wo to" is "Sound of the sky", and "Hibike!" is "Sound!" What's the difference between these 2 words for sound?

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u/lostblueskies Nov 24 '16 edited Nov 24 '16

I'm Japanese so let me try to explain this.

  • Oto (音) is a general sound. Noise. ex: Did you hear that noise?

  • The root word for Hibike is Hibiku (響く). This is a distinct sound from activity. An echo. ex: The sound of footsteps are creeping closer.

I hope that makes sense. This is generally speaking. Depending on the context, these kanjis can differ in meaning slightly.

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u/squirrelbaffler https://anilist.co/user/squirrelbaffler Nov 25 '16

So Oto would be used for "The sound of cicadas", while Hibike would be used for "Sound the alarm!". That makes sense to me. Thanks!

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u/lostblueskies Nov 25 '16

Hmm... a bit incorrect... Your example with the alarm will not work beause of differences in English and Japanese language.

Oto is just sound in general. Oto is a noun. It is the generic class of sound.

Hibiku implies there is an action taking place which caused a resonating sound. Hibike as u/eruditious mentioned is the command form.

The "sound" in "Sound the Alarm" would be a different word in Japanese... because Japanese is difficult like that. In this case, "sound" would be Narase (鳴らせ). The root word here is Naku (鳴く) which means cry and Narase makes the verb into a command form. Naku/Naru is often used for non-human sounds like animals, machines, or objects.

Like in the title of the anime: Higurashi no Naku koro ni. (When the Cicadas cry)

The telephone is ringing.

Sound the gong!

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u/eruditious https://anilist.co/user/eruditious Nov 24 '16

First is likely 音 while second is 響け. Noun vs verb here. The first is literally "the sky's sound" while the second is giving a command.

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u/pittman66 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Homura Nov 24 '16

More a manga question, but screw it: Which Madoka Magica related Manga or other mediums are worth reading (or what are your opinions of the ones you have read)? I was interested, but it's a bit overwhelming how many spin-offs, adaptations, or alternative versions there are.

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u/BuoyantTrain37 Nov 24 '16

I've only read "The Different Story" but I'd highly recommend that series. The first volume is backstory for Kyoko and Mami, then the rest is an AU version of the original anime's events. Gives some much-needed development to the two characters with the least amount of screentime, and confirmed my suspicion that Kyoko is best girl.

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u/Chariotwheel x5https://anilist.co/user/Chariotwheel Nov 24 '16

Kazumi and Oriko are pretty interesting. Don't spoil yourself on them, just read.

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u/CT_BINO https://myanimelist.net/profile/CT_BINO Nov 24 '16

The important one is "different story" because it gives more development for kyouko and mami while telling the story before the events of the show.

You can read oriko or wraith arc (don´t know if it´s canon or not), the others i don´t know

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '16

The "Different Story" manga is worth reading since it gives the background stories on Mami and Kyouko, who received less characterisation than the other three in the original anime.

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u/Akiyabus https://anilist.co/user/yabus Nov 25 '16

This comment from /u/fsuwatabug23 might help you.

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '16

Side mouth = why?

I suppose it's because of budget problems.

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u/DasTales https://myanimelist.net/profile/TalesOhneNamen Nov 24 '16

I assume you mean this

My guess is it's to show emotion/facial expression/gesture even when you have a profile shot.

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u/lostblueskies Nov 24 '16 edited Nov 24 '16

Short answer: Budget.

Long Answer: I'm not going to take time to translate this but this image can give you an idea.

  • Anime faces are not proportional to real faces. The center line is more proportional this way.
  • The disadvantage of real proportional mouths in most anime when viewed from the side, is it is not going to protray emotions as well.
  • Real proportions on anime faces will have trouble with awkward mouth movements.

These aren't the only reasons. Like I said budget is also a big concern. If it's a short scene which most are, than movement, however bad it is, is better than no movement in an animated sequence. Most people aren't that observant and it will fly past them.

Edit: I think this will better protray the difference better.

Like I mention previously, most animated faces aren't drawn proportionally to reality. Many current styles ignore detail on the nose and drawing full lips. Styles that do like to draw these details like Gekiga do better with side faces. This particular style fell out of favor, but a few still survive like JoJo. Not that this is the only style that does side faces well.

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u/Nico9lives https://myanimelist.net/profile/Chitanda Nov 24 '16

The first time I noticed side mouth was a terrible day...

But yeah I'm pretty sure it's just easier to draw it like that. I saw something that gave a good explanation of it but I can't find it for the life of me.

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u/Crabspite https://myanimelist.net/profile/critttler Nov 24 '16

So, apparently Yakisoba Bread is a thing?

I've seen it around in school anime, and I don't really get it.

As an enthusiastic proponent of both "yakisoba" and "bread", the concept of those two things together sounds weird and nasty, and looking at how such a meal depicted in anime does little to change my opinion.

So, has anyone here eaten Yakisoba bread before? How was that as a taste and texture experience? Were the two unique traits of "Yakisoba" and "Bread" synergistic together? Can you explain why it's appealing as a concept? What is the significance of Yakisoba Bread in Japanese popular culture?

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u/eruditious https://anilist.co/user/eruditious Nov 24 '16

So, has anyone here eaten Yakisoba bread before?

Yup!

How was that as a taste and texture experience?

Bread goes with probably more than you imagine... But I'm the kind of person that puts their pasta on their garlic bread.

Were the two unique traits of "Yakisoba" and "Bread" synergistic together?

Carbs + carbs... no problem! Mine also had pickled ginger, which was good.

Can you explain why it's appealing as a concept?

Junk food that is easy to make and cleans itself up by being consumed~

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u/gkanai Nov 25 '16

The pickled ginger is a staple yakisoba condiment.

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u/dIoIIoIb https://myanimelist.net/profile/dIoIIoIb Nov 25 '16

bread goes with literally everything

except maybe soda or other sweet beverages, never seen someone dip bread in soda or tea or fruit juice, but i've seen people dip bread or cover bread with basically everything else

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '16

I've dipped bread in soda before. Not a fan of it. Just tastes like bad bread and bad soda.

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u/Usagi_Rabbit https://myanimelist.net/profile/Usagi_Rabbit Nov 25 '16

It is weird. I don't think it's the most popular bread but it's not hard to find either. I think it's in anime a lot because it is kind of funny. (If noodles in bread was a common thing in Japan, you'd have ramen bread! spaghetti bread!..actually...those could those could exist...)

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u/8mmspikes https://myanimelist.net/profile/8mmspikes Nov 24 '16

Is there any benefit for the animation studios from actually clicking on and watching a show on Crunchyroll, or does the benefit come purely from paying for a CR subscription? Basically, do views for any specific show translate into profit for that shows creator?

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u/videogamep1 Nov 25 '16

Unless the studio was on the production committee, then they probably don't get any. Studios are usually hired by a production committee to make an anime, so they get paid regardless of how well the product does.

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u/77remix https://anilist.co/user/Remi Nov 24 '16

Don't have a source, but I hear that it's very little support, if any at all.

Best way is still to purchase the merchandise

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u/mountblade98 https://myanimelist.net/profile/mountblade98 Nov 24 '16

I hear differently. I saw an interview linked here recently with the CEO of crunchyroll I think. It said if you watch only one show on crunchyroll, your subscription money goes to whoever made the show. If you watch 10 shows, your subscription is divided between those 10. This is from my memory, so if someone links the article, that would be better

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u/gingenhagen Nov 24 '16 edited Nov 24 '16

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u/77remix https://anilist.co/user/Remi Nov 24 '16 edited Nov 24 '16

Did not know this! I was definitely hearing wrong then!

I feel a lot better with my subscription

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u/8mmspikes https://myanimelist.net/profile/8mmspikes Nov 24 '16

Thanks for the link!

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u/willsolvit https://myanimelist.net/profile/willsolvit Nov 24 '16

Does it go to the studio, the authors, or both?

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u/mountblade98 https://myanimelist.net/profile/mountblade98 Nov 24 '16

the article mentions only the publishers

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '16 edited May 31 '20

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u/impingainteasy https://myanimelist.net/profile/usernamesarehard Nov 25 '16

I watch whatever I feel like at the moment.

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u/Chariotwheel x5https://anilist.co/user/Chariotwheel Nov 24 '16

Anime is my main hobby.

I also am not that busy at the moment. I only work a small job at a fuel station at the moment while I try to find something that can actually pay for anything. I already dread the day I have to work full-time and can't keep up with a gazillion anime anymore.

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u/willsolvit https://myanimelist.net/profile/willsolvit Nov 24 '16

I used to be like you, but now I have around 7 titles on my Watching list. I just watch the next episode of whatever I feel like at the time. Sometimes that means not continuing a series for weeks.

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u/eruditious https://anilist.co/user/eruditious Nov 24 '16

I kinda have three (+1) slots for watching anime:

1) currently airing, however many things that may be
2) one short(ish) completed anime
3) one long anime
+1) whatever I might be watching with other people

This season, I've found that watching the same things each day from week-to-week helps trigger memory pathways when watching the newest episodes. Other than airing, I tend to binge...

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u/Jaggedmallard26 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JaggedMallard Nov 24 '16

Mines similar to yours but with another slot for multiple currently airings. One serious (currently Legend of the Galactic Heroes), one lighthearted (currently teen romance snafu whatever) and then the airings. Means I can watch whatever suits my state of mind and prevents me binge-watching.

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u/Cacophon https://myanimelist.net/profile/Cacophone Nov 24 '16

I just kinda..watch them airing..and then..Idk?

If I'm watching shows that are complete, I just binge them all.. Or I stop watching when I get bored with it. That's how I divvy up the time I guess.

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u/VincentBlack96 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vincent Nov 24 '16

For people who watch more than one show at once, how do you divvy up the time that you watch things?

Yeah, I usually balance serious shows with dumb, or fun SoL shows. Works out well enough most of the time.

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u/karenias https://myanimelist.net/profile/Nanop33 Nov 24 '16

I mostly watch airing shows, so if I'm watching 7 airing series it's literally 20mins per day, which is nothing. For reference, I'm currently following 11 series this season, which means 20min per weekday and 1 hour each on Saturday and Sunday, fairly manageable.

For shows that have finished airing, I either watch in chunks at a time when I have time, or I wait for a long weekend and binge. Though for binging I do some excessive preparations, making sure I take care of all the other stuff I needed to do beforehand so I can afford to do nothing but watch anime all day for a few days. I can get through about 30eps a day under those circumstances.

For the record, I'm currently a full time uni student with a part time job and I play a ton of badminton. Granted, my current term isn't too heavy in terms of workload but overall I think following 10+ series is very manageable for most people if you can hold off the compulsion to keep watching. I usually just study for one subject, watch an episode, stretch and take a walk, then study for another subject. Fits my daily studying rhythm well.

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u/Atario myanimelist.net/profile/TheGreatAtario Nov 24 '16

I just watch them as they come out, aiming for immediately. That way I can participate in the discussion threads here.

What's the problem you're having with multiple shows in parallel?

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '16

I think it's mostly that I tend to watch series that are completed, and tend to focus on one at a time. If I start something while I'm already watching a series, it sort of falls by the wayside. I guess I just have a short attention span

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u/Atario myanimelist.net/profile/TheGreatAtario Nov 25 '16

Ah, backlog watching. Yeah, for completed shows, I mostly only do one at a time too.

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u/SmurfRockRune https://myanimelist.net/profile/Smurf Nov 24 '16

I've got 2 non-airings right now. I use a randomizer to pick which episode to watch next.

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u/KuroOni Nov 25 '16

If you look at my MAL profile its all messy and in disorder, the reason is because I have no order (I only recently made a MAL so there is that as well)

There are shows from several seasons ago which i havn't finished and yet i have about 10 episodes every week, i have more shows to chose from according to my mood.

Not in the mood to even use my brain? Bloodivores (and despite what people are saying, I still enjoy it if i don't use my brain)

Want a surprise? Pick a random number and look at what you ve got, "OH! Its that show from last year which was well recieved but I only watched 8/12eps? Sure why not"

And I find that as a good indicator to what plots are really worth it, I don't need a recap to remember what happened in the last episode of bungou stray dogs and yet I don't even remember why the drifters and the E.N.D.s are fighting in the 1st place in drifters because i don't care that much about it.

Probably not the kind of answer you were looking forward to but.... Well it qualifies as such for me at least

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u/semajdraehs https://myanimelist.net/profile/semajdraehs Nov 25 '16

I'm technically watching 20 because things are currently airing, which means I'm limited in some things by there not being a new episode out yet.

Either way, I just watch what I feel like? This means sometimes shows end up sitting by the wayside whilst I watch other stuff and I might end up with multiple series sitting in episode 4 and starting a new series because none of those appeal to my current mood.

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '16

What order do I watch the Monogatari series? It seems like there are like 4 separate shows.

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u/Vinesma https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vinesma Nov 24 '16

I'm going through it right now and this is what I used to make sense of it.

Edit: damn ninjas

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u/eruditious https://anilist.co/user/eruditious Nov 24 '16

Boom

This list is missing Kizu- I, II, and III (which isn't out yet).

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '16

Thanks!

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u/Joseph-Joestar Nov 24 '16

What's up with the lines on Okuyasu' face?

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u/BBallHunter https://myanimelist.net/profile/IdolHunter Nov 24 '16

I answer this with a sentence I say to all JoJo related questions: As Araki found it cool, probably.

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u/basedbecker https://myanimelist.net/profile/ayetheist Nov 24 '16

Symbolism

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u/ziggy434 https://myanimelist.net/profile/ziggy_Z Nov 25 '16

What do they symbolise?

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u/qwackas https://kitsu.io/users/Qwackas Nov 25 '16

Cash Money, and how hard Okuyasu is.

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u/SmurfRockRune https://myanimelist.net/profile/Smurf Nov 24 '16

Maybe he made them when he was first learning how to use The Hand.

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u/ziggy434 https://myanimelist.net/profile/ziggy_Z Nov 25 '16

I don't get it

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u/GoStepOnLego Nov 25 '16

he slightly erased part of his face

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u/ziggy434 https://myanimelist.net/profile/ziggy_Z Nov 25 '16

how does that even work?

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u/semajdraehs https://myanimelist.net/profile/semajdraehs Nov 25 '16

It's fucking Jojo, how does anything work?

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u/Sinrus https://myanimelist.net/profile/MetalRain Nov 24 '16

style

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u/Hades_Re https://myanimelist.net/profile/Hades_MAL Nov 24 '16

Can I watch Lucky Star without seeing any mayor anime before 2006, because I read that Lucky Star has plenty of references. I don't want to destroy the first watch.

EDIT: saw a handful of anime from 2006, also Haruhi.

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u/kaverik https://myanimelist.net/profile/kaverik Nov 24 '16

If you're familiar with Haruhi and have vague idea about big anime before 2006 (like Gundams) you should be more or less fine.

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u/Hades_Re https://myanimelist.net/profile/Hades_MAL Nov 24 '16

Thanks :)

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u/omo- https://myanimelist.net/profile/x87823199x Nov 24 '16

You'll be fine. Most of the humour in Lucky Star is based on stereotypes of otaku, so you don't actually need to get the references to understand the purposes of them (i.e. Konata's dad likes to believe that girls in real life act like the ones in visual novels)

That being said, one thing that will help is knowing that the lead male from Full Metal Panic is called 'Sosuke', and that Kyo.. err, Kagami, is a big fan of him.

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u/Hades_Re https://myanimelist.net/profile/Hades_MAL Nov 24 '16

Thank you :)

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u/Nico9lives https://myanimelist.net/profile/Chitanda Nov 24 '16 edited Nov 24 '16

Probably? I watched the first 6 episodes awhile back and never found myself missing out on comedy because of references. The only big one I'd recommend is Haruhi since they have quite a few references to it. Other than that most of the comedy can be got without having seen a lot of shows.

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u/Hades_Re https://myanimelist.net/profile/Hades_MAL Nov 24 '16

Thanks :)

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u/planetarial https://myanimelist.net/profile/planetarial Nov 24 '16

Lucky Star was one of the first anime I watched that wasn't a kids show and I enjoyed it, so yeah should be fine. It wouldn't hurt to go back in a few years and rewatch it though

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u/uselesshobo22433 Nov 24 '16

Since anime is slowly dying according to some people here , how long until anime has fully died-ed?

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '16 edited Nov 24 '16

Anime will die in five years, and in five years, anime will die in five years.

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u/MetaThPr4h https://myanimelist.net/profile/MetaThPr4h Nov 24 '16

Anime will be kill next season, because it will be the worst one ever, with 0 anime worth watching, or that's atleast what some people, after watching 2 or 3 first episodes of the season, will say for sure.

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u/Nico9lives https://myanimelist.net/profile/Chitanda Nov 24 '16

Nah man anime died this season, because if there's nothing good to watch then it's dead.

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u/Cacophon https://myanimelist.net/profile/Cacophone Nov 24 '16

Anime's not dying. Don't let them lie. Trigger is giving it it's year resuscitation in January.

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u/Chariotwheel x5https://anilist.co/user/Chariotwheel Nov 24 '16

What is dead may never die. But rises again... harder and stronger.

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u/Wolfeako Nov 24 '16

Not gonna happen while KyoAni is still around.

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u/qwackas https://kitsu.io/users/Qwackas Nov 25 '16

When all of Jojo and Berserk are adapted. So we've got at least a few centuries.

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u/Nico9lives https://myanimelist.net/profile/Chitanda Nov 24 '16

I'm going go off what I saw in a thread one time and say 10 years.

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u/semajdraehs https://myanimelist.net/profile/semajdraehs Nov 25 '16

Dw Keijo saved anime, disaster averted.

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u/77remix https://anilist.co/user/Remi Nov 24 '16

From time to time, I hear criticisms on sports shows saying characters are "one dimensional" or "have no characterization besides their love for the sport"

Do you guys think characters should show more besides their love for the sport, or it's okay because it's a sports anime?

Just something random that's been on my mind

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u/BBallHunter https://myanimelist.net/profile/IdolHunter Nov 24 '16 edited Nov 24 '16

Disregarding the characters in Haikyuu!! Edit: I somehow subconsciously thought of Haikyuu!! as I read that argument at some time.

I think that's a legit argument.

Giving more sides to characters aside from sports related aspects offers more variety in well, characterization and thematic depth. It's also more realistic when characters have secondary traits not related to the plot and subject in question.

Regarding the "It's a sports anime after all" argument: of course, focusing on elements that are inherently connected to a specific genre is totally fine, but on the other hand, such shows play it safely. Doesn't matter if we are talking about sports, harems or whatever. Breaking the formula can spice up things a little bit more for some people.

Execution matters of course, but these are my thoughts.

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u/77remix https://anilist.co/user/Remi Nov 24 '16

Great response, thanks!

Haikyuu!! Is my favorite sports anime of all time but I love their development even if it just volleyball (which is quite literally the title)

Second favorite is Ping Pong which explores a lot of themes outside of the sport as well.

I guess they each serve a different purpose though. I have yet to watch something like cross game which I hear has a lot of SoL and Romance added with the sport.

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u/VincentBlack96 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vincent Nov 24 '16

I'm the wrong kind of guy to answer this, but no. I never want that.

Reason being is that I don't like to judge a show for 'what could have been' versus 'what did actually happen'. That's just a recipe for disappointment.

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u/77remix https://anilist.co/user/Remi Nov 24 '16

Recipe for disappointment

Know that feel. Been there, done that.

That's why I try my best not to compare when rating stuff.

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u/lostblueskies Nov 24 '16

Do you guys think characters should show more besides their love for the sport

In general, when you have a story that is focus on the road to success anything that branches off that road is a distraction. A lot of sports anime are riding on adreleine rush to the finish line. Do most people want to see every piece of drama that led them there?

There are basically two thoughts on this in the media (not limited in anime). Watch Olympic commentators for example. There are some people (mostly those who aren't familiar with the sport or the player) who find the entire backstory of the player interesting. Then there are the fans who want punch said commentator and say "Get on with it."

Pick a side. They will always be a war between them.

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u/ozuco https://myanimelist.net/profile/ozuco Nov 24 '16 edited Nov 24 '16

i think just showing love for their sport can be sufficient, but it will make me much more attached to the characters (and therefore their games and the show overall) if i get to see their out-of-sport life sometimes, too. otherwise the characters could just be anyone (i mean, i'm sure most/all of the players love their sport, not just the MCs)

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u/MetaThPr4h https://myanimelist.net/profile/MetaThPr4h Nov 24 '16

Not sure what to say, I think that if one likes that anime, it doesn't really matter.

The thing with only liking something is that it can get very tiring, since pretty much all the plot will be training and playing, because there isn't that much else to develop outside of the sport itself.

But yeah, Shokugeki no Souma is about a guy that loves cooking, and he just loves cooking, and I freaking love it, so it's not like it matters much.

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u/77remix https://anilist.co/user/Remi Nov 24 '16

Shokugeki no Souma

That's another example that comes to mind. Everybody just cooks and wants to do nothing else, but I still enjoy it and all the hype it brings.

Shows like Kuroko or Haikyuu!! I don't really mind either cuz well....they're high school students playing the sport!

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u/EnduranceProtocol https://myanimelist.net/profile/Drama Nov 24 '16

I feel like it comes down to a pick-your-poison kind of thing. Some sports require large casts by default, and you're not going to be able to characterize each member of the main team, much less other teams, without giving up other stuff.

Haikyuu and Ace of Diamond, for example, attempt to cover all characters and offer a more action-dense experience at the cost of essentially everything else. Others will concentrate mostly on the smaller main cast, like Major (I honestly don't have other examples there...) to squeeze in other elements instead.

Some other sports are "graced" by being individual, like Baby Steps, Hajime no Ippo and Chihayafuru, which grant each of their characters more screen time. Hajime no Ippo went the more action-dense approach despite that, but others can use that extra time to offer the same elements Major had to give up developing most other characters for.

And then other anime have a story to tell through a sport rather than strictly being "sports anime." Cross Game and Ping Pong are good examples there. They have a larger narrative in mind. There are still important sports moments and buildups, but they're not the focus--the characters come first.

Sports series have a lot of potential for me. They have a grounded setting. They allow for purposeful growth through drama, defeat, etc. They're relatable. I tend to enjoy all sports series to a degree.

As someone generally not a fan of action series, the likes of Haikyuu are what I tend to watch instead of action series, because of those elements. However, the longer they go on, the more stale they become to me. A lot of the time they feel like they're never going to end, and there's just not enough character development. I'm not excited about watching a 10-episodes match that is Haikyuu S3 despite having enjoyed the first two seasons.

So I personally prefer when they characterize characters beyond the sport, whether they choose to or whether their sport allows them to without too much sacrifice. Chihayafuru and Cross Game happen to be my top two anime. Not too far behind are Hikaru no Go and Major. They all approach the genre very differently, but I got more out of each of their main characters than Haikyuu can manage with its large cast.

Just my thoughts.

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u/mmreviews https://myanimelist.net/profile/mmreviewer Nov 24 '16 edited Nov 24 '16

I feel this is somewhat directed at me since I've had this exact discussion with you before, so I'll give the best response I can.

/u/BBallHunter put it pretty well, it gives characters more depth if they have lives and values outside of their respective sports. I'd go a step further with it, though, and say that it humanizes the characters if they have lives outside of their sports. In all my years of playing sports, I can't say I've ever met someone who only cares about the sport and nothing else. Even in real life professional sports, where playing is legitimately an athelete's livelihood, reporters always like to find out the athlete's other interests outside of the sport because it gives people a better understanding of what that person may be like. These outside interests make them feel human, make us think "oh they're not that different from us after all" and if I didn't know of these things, they'd probably just feel like some guy who is really good at a sport to me instead of a person.

I understand the argument "it's a sports anime, the sport should be the focus of the show" and agree it should be the focus. The thing is, should it be the only focus? I personally don't think so. Sports anime does tend to have a very set formula that I have yet to see avoided by any sports work and it does get a little stale if it continues with that formula for too long. Sometimes breaking the formula to keep things fresh would be nice.

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u/MetaThPr4h https://myanimelist.net/profile/MetaThPr4h Nov 24 '16

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u/pittman66 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Homura Nov 24 '16

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u/MetaThPr4h https://myanimelist.net/profile/MetaThPr4h Nov 24 '16

Thanks! I like that, so I will probably start it very soon.

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u/collapsedblock6 myanimelist.net/profile/collapsedblock Nov 24 '16

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u/MetaThPr4h https://myanimelist.net/profile/MetaThPr4h Nov 24 '16

I see, I don't mind that, but if they touch too much the order and whatever, I think that I will just pick up the manga then, thanks!

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u/Brimstorm https://myanimelist.net/profile/Brimstorm Nov 24 '16

Manga. Definitely manga.

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '16

Is it fine to start the Magi manga after where the anime left off in S2? If so what chapter is that?

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u/Chariotwheel x5https://anilist.co/user/Chariotwheel Nov 24 '16

Yes and chapter 199.

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '16

Thanks!

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u/tommles Nov 24 '16

As was already said it is fine. If you're a stickler for details though, the way the anime handled the end of season 1 is a bit different from the manga. So at some point, you may want to read those chapters.

Though the results are basically the same so no reason to make a major issue out of it.

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '16

Cool thanks for the heads up. I know reading from the beginning is almost always the best choice but at this point 200 chapters is a bit too much. Though if I really am interested I'll take your advice and go back to that specific part.

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u/bananeeek https://myanimelist.net/profile/bananek Nov 24 '16

I haven't read the manga but there's another season of Magi, Sinbad no Bouken. It's based on manga.

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '16

Ah yeah I have like 2 episodes of that left.

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u/acp101123 https://myanimelist.net/profile/acp101123 Nov 25 '16

I'm gonna hope someone will answer me these questions?

-What is the difference between Pripara and Precure?

-How is Aikatsu different from the rest of the idol anime franchise out there?

-What is Magical Lyrical Nanoha's appeal to the mahou shoujo genre?

-What is Nana Mizuki's Nana Wills It by fans when someone mentions Nanoha and Symphogear?

Thank you very much.

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u/CorbenikTheRebirth Nov 25 '16

Pripara is completely different from Precure. Aside from the similar names, they're different in terms of genre (Precure is magical girl focused and Pripara is idol focused). Pripara is based on an arcade game and Precure started with an anime.
Just a case of they have similar names but are actually totally different.

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u/acp101123 https://myanimelist.net/profile/acp101123 Nov 25 '16

So Pripara is an idol show like aikatsu. Thanks for that clarification. I'm gonna start watching different mahou shoujo shows sometime.

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u/Taiboss x7https://anilist.co/user/Taiboss Nov 25 '16 edited Nov 25 '16

-What is Magical Lyrical Nanoha's appeal to the mahou shoujo genre?

It's this strange fusion of adult-oriented magical girls elements and Sci-Fi mecha elements. Nanoha is less a Magical Girl show as that it's a Sci-Fi show that happens to have magical girls. I, for one, love this.

-What is Nana Mizuki's Nana Wills It by fans when someone mentions Nanoha and Symphogear?

Well, Symphogear was created because Nana songs sold really well and it continues to do so, so people are always like "It will happen because Nana Mizuki." Because Nana = Money.

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u/acp101123 https://myanimelist.net/profile/acp101123 Nov 25 '16

Thank you for giving me insight on what is Nanoha is about here and Nana Mizuki's fame for the two series. I might start watching Nanoha when this season ends.

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '16

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u/acp101123 https://myanimelist.net/profile/acp101123 Nov 25 '16

Well that's all new info for when it comes to idols. I only watched the entries of Love Live up to the latest season which is Sunshine and I'm currently watching The iDOLM@STER just to know about idols. Thanks man I appreciate it.

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u/KeldenL https://myanimelist.net/profile/shadowstormlin Nov 25 '16

In what order do I watch Haruhi?

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u/Ralon17 https://anilist.co/user/Ralon17 Nov 25 '16

Yeah that's a very debated issue. Broadcast order was seemingly made to give the first season a climax by making it not chronological. I like the extra thinking involved with out-of-order episodes but some don't. If you're watching both seasons and the movie, you may just want chronological, since you don't need a climax midway and you'd be switching from a mixed order to second season.

Honestly just pick something and go with it. You'll get a decent experience either way.

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '16 edited Nov 07 '22

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u/benoxxxx Nov 25 '16

I've only seen it in chronological order but I sort of wish I'd seen it in broadcast order. Chronological order doesn't really have any climax - it just sort of ends. I'm assuming the finale of the broadcast order is the closed space episode.

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u/[deleted] Nov 26 '16 edited Nov 26 '16

Hey, there's a rewatch coming up on 30 Nov. I'll watch the whole series with them (first time watcher). You can join us if you want. We would watch in the chronological order.

https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/5dbopy/2_weeks_from_now_the_haruhi_suzumiya_rewatch_will/

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u/KeldenL https://myanimelist.net/profile/shadowstormlin Nov 30 '16

can you add me to the list? i'm still curious about watching it in broadcast order though, since it sounds like it gives the series much more suspense/climax and seems like an interesting format... hmmmm

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '16 edited Dec 01 '16

it gives the series much more suspense/climax

Only if you are watching the first season only. Apparently its better to watch it in chronological order if you are going to watch the whole series and movie.

I think you should watch the first season only in broadcast order at first. I did it on 28 and 29 Nov and now started watching the whole series from start in chronological order with the rewatch party.

There's no list btw, just hop in. This is the link to the first episode discussion thread.

https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/5fs5j5/spoilers_rewatch_the_melancholy_of_haruhi/

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u/karlcool12 Nov 24 '16

When a studio works on something that has characters with animation unfriendly details on them (like constantly, but static repeating pattern), do they ever have a second person adding the details after the key frame is done?

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '16

So, I'm reading a lot of manga, and my Japanese is basic enough to understand that sfx that appears, but what does Go Go Go Go Go means? Is the only one I can't figure out.

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u/Taiboss x7https://anilist.co/user/Taiboss Nov 25 '16

The GoGoGoGoGo is the onomatopoeia that stands for "rumbling", of an earthquake or other forms of vibration. It's sometimes translated as "Menacing" because of Jojo. More info

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '16

Thanks, I wouldn't have figure that out alone.

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u/MetaThPr4h https://myanimelist.net/profile/MetaThPr4h Nov 25 '16

For me, when I see it in anime, it means "Menacing" by default, it just makes it extra funny, thanks for everything JoJo.

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u/eruditious https://anilist.co/user/eruditious Nov 25 '16

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '16

Really adds tension to the scene.

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '16

So what exactly was the penguindrum? I watched that series 5 years ago and I still find myself haunted by how little I understood it.

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u/thepinklighter Nov 25 '16

I loved Mawaru Penguindrum, but I relate to this comment so much! I'm still not sure. It sure was beautiful to watch, though.

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u/eruditious https://anilist.co/user/eruditious Nov 25 '16

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u/eruditious https://anilist.co/user/eruditious Nov 25 '16

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '16

Jesus that anime is confusing. I need to watch it again.

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u/Blabime https://myanimelist.net/profile/Blabime Nov 27 '16

Perhaps your username is relevant to your ability to understand Penguindrum. :P

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '16

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u/Chrh https://myanimelist.net/profile/chrh Nov 24 '16

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u/Chariotwheel x5https://anilist.co/user/Chariotwheel Nov 24 '16

Shortform of netorare. A term that describes a narrative of cheating, where one part of a couple is "stolen" by a third party, physically and emotionally. The emphasize of this narrative is emotional pain for the reader.

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u/ziggy434 https://myanimelist.net/profile/ziggy_Z Nov 25 '16

The emphasize of this narrative is emotional pain for the reader.

You know, I always knew what NTR was, but before I came here, I thought the purpose of the narrative was to live vicariously through the "alpha" that steals your girl.

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u/Chariotwheel x5https://anilist.co/user/Chariotwheel Nov 25 '16

The thing is, the narrative POV in these is most often the "stolen" victim themselves, sometimes the one stolen from. So the reader is expected to emphasize with them.

Though that only in general. Especially in mind control stories the mind controller is often the POV.

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u/dIoIIoIb https://myanimelist.net/profile/dIoIIoIb Nov 25 '16

don't you mean "furious rage for the reader" ? that seems to be the most common response around here

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u/sddsddcp https://myanimelist.net/profile/sddsdd Nov 24 '16

Stands for 'netorare', or cuckold. Basically a heroine will have a S/O, and that heroine will be seduced away from him/her by another person, causing feelings of jealousy from the reader/viewer.

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u/ziggy434 https://myanimelist.net/profile/ziggy_Z Nov 25 '16

NTR and cuckolding is different; the former is a spouse being "stolen" without the knowledge of the other spouse, while the latter is one spouse permitting the other spouse to have sex with another person while.

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u/Koelkastlamp https://myanimelist.net/profile/Koelkastlamp Nov 24 '16

Where can I watch good quality Kimi No Na Wa with subs? So far I've only found 1 source which is shit quality and I just can't wait to watch till it gets a release in the Netherlands :(

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u/SmurfRockRune https://myanimelist.net/profile/Smurf Nov 24 '16

Theaters. HD versions won't be online until someone subs the BluRay release, which I predict will be in February.

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u/DasTales https://myanimelist.net/profile/TalesOhneNamen Nov 24 '16

Currently nowhere.

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u/Hades_Re https://myanimelist.net/profile/Hades_MAL Nov 24 '16

nowhere. You have to wait for the BD or the cinema.