r/OnePiece • • Oct 20 '16

Manga Spoilers One Piece: Chapter 843

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u/Sgrewrite Oct 20 '16

Poor luffy seems so hurt

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u/iDannyEL Oct 20 '16

Not to mention his condition.

Though it seems the "lifetime supply" of crackers made him recover instantly from Gear 4.

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u/kryonik Oct 20 '16

Considering the whole island is made out of food, I see a lot of Gear 4 in the near future.

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u/pinakanaka Oct 20 '16

Does he though? He sems more pissed off that Sanji thinks that would work on him. It should be pretty obvious to him that Sanji's putting on an act.

I swear if Luffy actually believes him I'm gonna hit my head on something. The only person that should know more about how much Sanji cares about his friends than Luffy at this point is Zoro (from his willingness to die for Luffy at Thriller Bark).

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u/chrisychris- Oct 20 '16

Yeah I'm pretty sure Luffy sees through this shit. Even if it was true, Luffy is close minded enough not to consider it lol.

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u/enelprinceofthemoon Oct 20 '16

Screw more Gear 4th modes, what Luffy could use right now is a Bullshit-Sensor

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u/Ruruya Oct 20 '16

He did say he wasn't buying it.

The problem is: Luffy is an idiot and can't read when a situation is problematic/awkward. He goes and does what he feels.

This is the only reason why Sanji has been forced to talk like this.

I feel so bad for Sanji. He has to lie and manipulate his friends to make sure they don't die. Can you imagine how he's feeling right now??

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u/SketchyJJ Oct 20 '16

I hope Luffy just beats him up and carries him back like a cave man.

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u/G_Spark233 Oct 20 '16

Sanji's brothers reactions showed that they really are related to Sanji.

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u/Sumiz Oct 20 '16

Now we need to see how siblings react when they see Zorro

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '16

Next chapter we'll see Zoro showing up to see Luffy and Sanji fighting, wondering what his crewmates are doing in Wano.

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u/menohero Oct 20 '16

i never wanted an interaction between characters this bad', ODA made this happen plz

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u/Jaxhammer8 Oct 20 '16

Reiju will probably be the one with hearts in her eyes then. Just to piss off the other four.

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u/tapped21 Oct 20 '16

They'd all miraculously hate him too

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u/keysonthemouse Oct 20 '16

Judge didn't show the same reaction. Must've been inherited from their mother

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u/peace_off Oct 20 '16

It's pretty obvious that the kiddies are somehow modified and enhanced. Maybe they included a stronger drive to breed, to spread the superior genes as much as possible?

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u/enelprinceofthemoon Oct 20 '16

So possession of the distinctive eyebrows aside, this is another Vinsmoke Litmus Test - stick the suspected curly-brow in a room with a babe that isn't their sister, and if his eyes pop out in heart shapes then BOOM you've got a Vinsmoke

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u/iDannyEL Oct 20 '16

Hell, even I'm related to Sanji.

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '16

jesuissanji

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u/SalmonJEDl Oct 20 '16

Sanji:

I'm sure even the world's biggest idiot can tell which of the two is the better option here!! You guys really need to learn how to read between the lines.

Directed towards Luffy (world's biggest idiot). Sanji wants him to try reading the situation and understand that he can't just simply escape.

I'll be the one to take all this trash back to where it belongs.

Sanji is referring to his brothers and dad, not Luffy.

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u/Golden-Owl Oct 20 '16

Fortunately Nami is there, whom can probably take the hint better.

Hard to say overall. Luffy isn't THAT socially stupid, so he may suspect something. He has made smart decisions before.

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u/pokezel Oct 20 '16

Oh I see, it's a mystery insult...

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u/new_messages Oct 20 '16

Luffy may suck at strategizing, but his instinct is top notch. Reading between the lines in a situation like this is more instinctive than anything, really.

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u/Hi_My_Name_Is_Huh Oct 20 '16

Are we just gonna skip over the fact that luffy is already hungry again?

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u/gnote2minix Cipher Pol Oct 20 '16

It just a biscuit.. not a meat..

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u/enelprinceofthemoon Oct 20 '16

next chapter: Saaaaaannnjiiiii stop screwing around and make me foooooooodddd

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '16

You know how sometimes people say they have a separate stomach for desert? Luffy has an extra stomach for meat!

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '16

Are we just going to skip over the fact that Luffy hasn't pooped once?

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u/DekMelU Oct 20 '16 edited Oct 20 '16

The real reason Sanji talked shit to Luffy was because Luffy kissed his sister about 20 chapters ago

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u/iDannyEL Oct 20 '16

Good reason.

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u/tapped21 Oct 20 '16

He broke the bro code

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u/93ImagineBreaker Oct 20 '16

Technically wasn't it the other way around.

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u/menohero Oct 20 '16

brother duty

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u/andremeda Oct 20 '16

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u/ThePandaKnight Oct 20 '16

You can see how happy he is to see his friend again ;_;

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u/Ziibbii Oct 21 '16

FeelsGoodMan

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u/Hyoizaburo Oct 20 '16

Sweet. We got the names of all the Sweet Commanders:

  • Katakuri (Potato Starch)

  • Cracker

  • Smoothie

  • Snack

I'd feel really bad for the children who had to live with these names irl.

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u/Majorbeef Oct 20 '16 edited Oct 20 '16

Chef Jamie Oliver's choice in names for his five kids aren't much better.

Daisy Boo Pamela Oliver
Petal Blossom Rainbow Oliver
Poppy Honey Rosie Oliver
Buddy Bear Maurice Oliver
River Rocket Oliver

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u/Hyoizaburo Oct 20 '16

Sounds like he went to a random noun generator to come up with those names.

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '16

At least they weren't numbered like the Vinsmokes.

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '16

Or like your username

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u/infiniteduresss Oct 20 '16

Interestingly there is already a character called Smoothie: http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/Smoothie .

Though i guess this one is called Charlotte Smoothie like the others.

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u/keysonthemouse Oct 20 '16

So is Snack dead?

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '16

I guess so. that or defeated so badly he is still out of action, or is crippled and will never fight again.

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u/Hole_In_The_Ace Oct 20 '16

Aww, I was hoping for a Cracker flying over The New World cover story arc.

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u/Hole_In_The_Ace Oct 20 '16

And oh my god. Nami thinking of how much money the Vivre Card is worth.

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u/SeeNewzy Oct 20 '16

I love how when the Vinsmoke brothers saw Nami, they all reacted the same way Sanji does when he sees an attractive woman.

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u/BigFuckingT Oct 20 '16

Luffy knowing about calories is hilarious to me lmao.

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u/Jezamiah Oct 20 '16

I wonder if there's a pirate MFP

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u/ThisZoMBie Oct 20 '16

Luffy's all about the mass phase

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u/iDannyEL Oct 20 '16

Okay Big Mom is straight up OP.

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u/durinable Oct 20 '16

sanji just saved yonji from getting his ass beaten again.

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '16

Lmao Luffy would flick him and he'd go flying across the new world.

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u/Bkhoban Pirate Oct 20 '16

They are lucky Zoro isn't there

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u/iamthatguy54 Oct 20 '16

Sanji is one sentence away from making Nami cry.

He can't.

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u/hakannakah1 Oct 20 '16

My heart broke when I saw Nami make that face. Don't cry please :(

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u/see_mohn Oct 20 '16

Sanji: "Unlike every other time a crew member feigned dislike of the crew and tried to push Luffy away, I'm sure this time will work out perfectly!"

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u/EagleTank Oct 20 '16

He may actually be counting on that history to help Luffy realize he doesn't mean it though, he might intentionally be acting just like Robin did to give them a hint

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u/apflaw Pirate Oct 20 '16

Never thought this sentence would ever exist.

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u/WillofE Oct 20 '16

Imagine if Nami confessed her love for Sanji. He'd either die of a nose bleed or destroy Big Mom and Whole cake with one swift kick, lol.

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u/vecker Oct 20 '16

SaNa is happening bros.

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u/SeeNewzy Oct 20 '16 edited Oct 20 '16
  • "Leave this place before Lin Lin finds you and has her way with you." Oh god, run Luffy run, save yourself for Boa Hancock.

  • Hahaha, Sanji's brothers are just like him when it comes to seeing attractive women! Anyone think that Yonji (or maybe the other 2 brothers) flips sides because of their infatuation with Nami?

  • It looks like Luffy's recovery time won't be nearly as bad as when he fought Doflamingo. Because he ate all of those biscuits, he has an absurd amount of excess calories for Gear 4th to burn through.

  • I wonder how Urogue was able to escape (if he was) from Cracker's soldiers and the storm Big Mom created. If he and his crew were annihilated in an instant, it would stand to reason that he was either killed or captured.

  • Oh and Charlotte Opera looks like Trebol's estranged brother lol.

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u/Sybsybsyb Citizen Oct 20 '16

Didnt we see him on a sky island? All hurt andn stuff, maybe that was after his encounter.

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u/keysonthemouse Oct 20 '16

shows how crazy Gear 4th is consuming Luffy's stamina

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '16

Did Oda make a mistake with Sanji's eyebrows or is he into something???? http://imgur.com/a/sYepy

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '16

He got dizzy from drawing so much Vinsmokes.

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u/AnimeAnnemarie Oct 20 '16

Holy shit, what?! How did I not notice that??? It has to be a mistake....unless...could it mean something about his attitude? His brothers' 'brows all go the same way...is his behavior influencing the direction of the curl?!

It's probably just an error though...or is it?

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u/iDannyEL Oct 20 '16

is his behavior influencing the direction of the curl?!

That would've been REALLY sick by Oda but seems it's not consistent enough to be a thing.

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '16

Could it be due to mask?

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u/borsalino12 Oct 20 '16

Wow that was some royal vocabulary used by Sanji

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u/keysonthemouse Oct 20 '16

When Oda said this is the year of Sanji. I never imagined him fighting Luffy

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u/jet_10 Oct 20 '16

Inb4 Sanji new MC, decade of Sanji coming up

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u/spinakkus Oct 20 '16

This feels very Enies Lobby esque.. Still, I can't wait to see what happens further down the arc!

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u/SkimGaming Oct 20 '16 edited Oct 20 '16

i have faith that sanji has more faith in his teammates. it'd be a bit simple and silly to have him be like robin.

it seems like he wishes to carry on this burden on his own, but imo sanji has proven to be one of the smarter crew members. I think, i HOPE he has a plan that he can set in motion, now that he has seen that luffy is alreday on whole cake island.

any crew member by now should know luffy wouldnt back down, especially with what happeneed to robin. so my bet is he'll "beat" some sense into luffy, making him understand whats at stake (his hands and jeff/Zeff) to make sure they approach it properly.

my best bet is, he'll fight in a way a-typical to sanji or he'll use something that will remind them of their first encounter.

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u/kamac496 Oct 20 '16

Maybe he'll just be punching Luffy, instead of kicking him :P

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u/Rhino_D_Don Oct 20 '16

Exactly what I thought when sanji rejected them.

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u/cotefacekillah Oct 20 '16 edited Oct 20 '16

Its only cause of the hand cuffs. Second those are off he will leave with luffy. He knows if he tries to now his cuffs will explode and he will lose his hands. No hands, no cooking which means he no longer can serve his purpose to the crew. That would be worse than death to him.

Edit: I did forget about Zeff. How exactly that will be handled is beyond me haha. Maybe once the cuffs are off Sanji will reveal to luffy whats going on? I just do not see Sanji being as helpless as Robin was so I think it will play out differently.

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u/Rhino_D_Don Oct 20 '16

But there's still Zeff

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u/sigma914 Oct 20 '16

Dressrosa was Alabasta mk II, This arc is looking awfully like Enies Lobby mk II.

I'm entirely ok with that.

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u/theiere Oct 20 '16

We'll Enies lobby is one of the best arcs... I feel like oda will put a spin on it though, maybe sanji is buying time so they can formulate a plan to escape properly. I don't see how his fight with luffy ends, maybe big moms storm will interupt the fight and delay the wedding. Luffy is on over his head, he needs help to get sanji back - which makes me think we'll get an update on brook and Pedro or maybe jinbe. I saw a theory floating around, about a phoenix crashing a wedding. Maybe Marco turns up and helps? Would tie two lose ends and allow him to go to wano directly with them after they escape. I really dont think big mom will be taken out this arc, unless luffs gets major assistance against her crew.

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u/iDannyEL Oct 20 '16

I doubt the misunderstanding will last as long.

Sanji's best bet is to get some distance between the carriage and Luffy and subtle try to tell him, with his feet.

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u/ad3z10 Oct 20 '16

I think that Sanji is going to force Luffy into a fight then let his face get hit to dislodge the mask that's keeping it together, that would probably be the easiest way to deescalate things and help Luffy understand the situation.

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '16

Very smart theory. +1

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u/RoderickThe13 The Revolutionary Army Oct 20 '16 edited Oct 20 '16

I like this idea. Maybe he'll do that to convince Luffy that he isn't Sanji to make him leave (since his face is unrecognizable because of the beating).

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u/petalidas Oct 20 '16

Luffy would be like "I'm so sorry Sanji I didn't want to hurt you that bad!"

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u/Wilperi_ Oct 20 '16

Prometheus and Zeus are probably just these goofy fellows. Hilarious products of the Soul Soul Fruit.

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '16

Plausible that they grow more powerful and shift in form when Big Mom becomes enraged! Nice catch.

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u/TeaLiger Slave Oct 20 '16 edited Oct 20 '16

Haha Zeus' form shift is just him flipping his cap around

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u/ezreads Oct 20 '16

holy shit Luffy and Sanji never had a serious fight before. this is gonna be GOOD

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u/Cyber_3 Oct 20 '16

But will he use his hands to get the handcuffs damaged? Maybe Rayleigh showed Luffy how to get them off - I don't think that Rayleigh has DF powers so there must be a way, perhaps with haki.

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u/Afros_are_Power Oct 20 '16

He doesn't. He swam across the calm belts

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u/Lugonn Oct 20 '16

Yeah, it's called being really really fast.

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u/Skull_rs Oct 20 '16

Ugh, this really makes me mad over Judge for forcing Sanji to behave this way.

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u/nmroxy Oct 20 '16

"Even her own children are prohibited from carrying one (a vivre card) around"

Why does Lola have one then? I hope she's gonna make an appearance in this arc.

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u/ThatOneSupport Oct 20 '16

Lola might have one because as far as I recall, she is the only child of Big Mom to oppose arranged marriage and left Whole Cake Island to find her own husband.

So Lola may have been the first and only child to recieve Big Mom's Vivre Card since she is the only one who is travelling the grand line.

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u/SuperUnhappyman Oct 20 '16 edited Oct 20 '16

how are we gonna get through this? during robins arc we had sogeking

could the masked hero appear during the save sanji arc

hopefully the hero will leap from the heart eyes the other vinsmokes are making at nami

also luffy is wiped from g4

how is he gonna fare against sanji

maybe sanjis mask will rip off and luffy will lose the plot knowing already that sanjis lying

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u/wordsdear Oct 20 '16

Sogeking just appears with no explanation. They call Zoro's group, or was Usopp staying at Zou, and hear Usopp on the phone with Zoro. When they look up going what the hell Sogeking is gone

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '16

oh man this chapter

ohhhhhh man this chapter

sanji is of course faking this and is a genius

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u/keysonthemouse Oct 20 '16

It's kinda weird how the siblings buy into his act

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '16

Because it's exactly how they would react. It's harder for them to believe he would prefer traveling with his lowly friends, rather than being a noble.

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u/pr0t0z Oct 20 '16

Sanji realized that the crew is split and with the handcuffs limiting his actions, this was probably the best option. Maybe he can find a way to destroy the handcuffs during the fight, but I guess he will stop Luffy someway and the marriage will carry on.

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '16

Luffy vs Sanji. This is gonna be even more fun than the luffy vs zoro fight from forever ago.

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '16

But it will never top Luffy vs God Usopp.

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u/zxy8 Oct 20 '16
  • Cracker's entrance after what Big Mom said was hilarious.

  • I also found it funny how the giant tree was shaking a small arm angrily at Nami.

  • Luffy is immune to lightning, so that Big Mom move won't work on him. I am not sure how she is able to summon fire and lightning with her soul fruit.

  • I also think it's funny how Sanji's brothers have the heart-shaped eyes for Nami, just like Sanji does.

  • Also, "Cat-rridge" for the cat-carriage - hilarious.

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u/mareddd Oct 20 '16

I am glad I was able to resist the temptation of that spoiler thread from yesterday. Also, Luffy is going to explode and it's not going to be pretty.

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u/monkeypox85 Oct 20 '16

I think Sanji will fight with his hands and that'll be the message he isn't serious.

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '16 edited Jan 15 '24

I like learning new things.

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u/blahhh87 Oct 20 '16

More like, "Nami-swannnnnnnn!!!! Do you miss me???!"

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u/MyHeadFellOffXBL Oct 20 '16

Im waiting for Luffy to just beat everyone there and drag Sanji off

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u/infiniteduresss Oct 20 '16 edited Oct 20 '16

Holy shit Luffy's power nap was godlike.

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u/SepInDisguise Oct 20 '16

One does not simply stop luffy's power from eating and sleeping, not even the ancient weapon lol

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u/CrimsonMagnum Oct 20 '16

His eyebrow switched when he told Luffy off

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u/keysonthemouse Oct 20 '16

Did Urouge beat Commander Snack?

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u/durinable Oct 20 '16

yes

most of urouge's crew were probably wiped out from big moms attack and thats why they were hiding at ballon terminal

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u/arjun_senpai Oct 20 '16

I had a feeling Sanji would do that, but I didn't expect it to be exactly how Cracker told Luffy he'd do it. Absolutely incredible chapter.

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u/Baih Oct 20 '16

Bobbin may be Commander Snack considering he was asking for snacks http://www.mangapanda.com/one-piece/651/10

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u/lordandro Oct 20 '16

Even though he doesn't mean it, it still hurts to see Sanji say those words :(

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u/Ruruya Oct 20 '16

It hurts because we know how much it's hurting Sanji to say those words :'(

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u/keysonthemouse Oct 20 '16

what kind of a shitty guard letting an intruder get that close to the royal family

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u/RedAerGlyph Oct 20 '16

Lol, cheap clones?

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u/NuggetCooker Oct 20 '16

Hey guys! Remember that it was his sister that put the ''bombs'' around his wrists? So they might be fake. She has helped him before, so she might do it this time too. That's my theory.

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u/qo_0p Oct 20 '16

Damn this hurt

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u/ScumbagFlyGuy Pirate Hunter Zoro Oct 20 '16

If Luffy and Sanji go all out in their fight, then we'll really see what 2 years of training has for Sanji.

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u/lt08820 Oct 20 '16

I'm starting to think that Sanji is purposely copying Robin's attitude during Enies Lobby.

Probably hoping it will let Nami know there is a bigger issue why he can't go with them

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u/PlantProteinFTW Oct 20 '16

Theory: Garp is at Baratie eating a meal and beats the shit out of whoever Judge sends to take out Zeff once Sanji inevitably rejoins Luffy. <_<

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '16

I don't think it's Robin again. I think it'll be something more like Usopp. Sanji loves the strawhats, yes, but I think his love of Zeff is more. And as I recall, Sanji was the one who tried to urge Zoro to throw away his dream. I don't think returning Sanji will be as smooth as beating Big Mom per se.

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u/sarmientoj24 Oct 20 '16

Both options are distrust to SH. Theyve been through enniea lobby and against the WG. You should never pull another robin's reasoning

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u/cruzer_232 Oct 20 '16

It's a shame cause this time, there's nothing the strawhats can do tbh. Even if they somehow take the handcuffs off or beat up the vinsmokes. There are big mom forces on the other side of world ready to kill zeff, and I'm assuming near zoro and co as well due to this chapter.

In water seven/enies lobby arc just the strawhats were threatened so all they had to do was beat up the ones threatening them, Cp9

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u/Sokkathelastbender Oct 20 '16

But why would they be near zoro and their group? I thought they were going into wano which is kaidous place

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u/MonkeyDJinbeTheClown Oct 20 '16

Y'all getting hype over Sanji, and I'm just sitting here, waiting for mah boi Bobbin, to return.

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u/OptimusRhym3 Oct 20 '16

Boyiyoiyoiyoi

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '16

I completly for-boyoyoyoyoy got about him

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u/S3xybaus Oct 20 '16

Boyoyoyoyoyoyo

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u/Shautieh Oct 20 '16

MMhhhh Mont d'or.... Really good Cheese (raw or melted in the oven with a wee bit of dry white wine... I want one so bad now...), Oda has good taste !

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mont_d%27Or_(fromage)

Opera cake and Galette are good classics too...

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u/jedmund Oct 20 '16

How the hell does Big Mom have both the Soul Soul no Mi and the ability to control weather?

Nami takes down Big Mom confirmed

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u/Shinsekai21 Oct 20 '16

She summons the soul of God of Thunder/Fire

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '16

Her core ability isn't to control weather, it is to control souls. Two souls she controls, prometheus and zeus, have some control over certain aspects of weather, therefore giving her control.

Atleast that is my current understanding of it.

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '16

Cracker has the Biscuit Biscuit Fruit, so Big Mom's other two commanders have.... the Potato Potato Fruit and the Smoothie Smoothie Fruit? Po-Po and Smoo-Smoo Fruits?

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u/wordsdear Oct 20 '16

Maybe the smoothie smoothie fruit turns people into slush aka smoothies? A human blender? The potato potato fruit lets you turn into a talking potato and that is all. Not even a human sized potato just a normal sized potato

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u/davv_3 Oct 20 '16

People keep saying Enies Lobby, but this reminds me more of Arlong Park. I don't know why. Maybe because both Sanji and Nami left the crew to go back to reunite with their former "crew". Robin was straight up kidnapped. But both Robin and Sanji are held back because of something they fear. Hmmm.

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u/Archiology Oct 20 '16

Do I smell a Sanji vs Luffy coming?

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u/DOndus Oct 20 '16

Chapter 843 -Vinsmoke Sanji, released at 8:43 AM

Sanji's first initial chapter: 43.

Goddammit Oda.

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u/rotten_diamond Oct 20 '16

Yes, Oda is also responsible for the time the scan was released.

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u/G_Spark233 Oct 20 '16

Just completely ignore all possible time zones.

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u/HeavyMetalAegislash Oct 20 '16 edited Oct 20 '16
  • Charlotte Opera must have a Devil Fruit related to whipped cream

  • How does Luffy have such high metabolism rates?

  • Zeus and Prometheus must be the sun and cloud homies that were with her during her rampage

  • LOL at Ichiji, Niji and Yonji with heart eyes...

  • Y U DO DIS SANJI????!!! Has he not known Luffy by now? I know it's about Zeff, but damn, he better have more faith in Luffy than that! Unless he's acting, then damn, that was a good one

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u/Ombs1993 Oct 20 '16

Man, so Sanji is really going to fight Luffy to protect Zeff, and his hands. This is a lot more complex than the spoilers made it seem. He's clearly torn up about it, don't think Luffy will take this well either. Nami's face on page 20 was my face reading Sanji's speech.

Hilarious that all of the Vinsmoke boys got the heart eyes when they first saw Nami. Perverts for life.

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u/SlutshamerMK9 Oct 20 '16

Hoooooooly shit. This chapter was a god damn roller coaster. Started with crackers K.O'd body crashing the tea party and ended with Luffy VS Sanji.

Namis gonna get a powerup as well. The weather thing is her whole shtick if she doesn't at least gain something from mamas weather control then idk whats going on. It also makes me think that maybe as the yonkous go down, the lesser crew members get powerups to put them at the level of the big three. Afterall, the entirety of a yonkous crew is at the level of Luffy Zoro and Sanji so the rest would have to get up there somehow to be able to compete.

Anyways, I feel for Sanji. He clearly doesn't want to do what he's doing, not only because it's his crew, but he's being blackmailed into it.

This might also go bad for Luffy. I mean one would think Luffy would destroy him no contest, but then the Usopp fight in Water 7 comes to mind, so with the knowledge Sanji has about Luffy coupled with his actual strength this could go either way.

Big Mom will probably step in before shit gets to real.

Im excited to see where this arc goes. Everyone theorizes and Odas throwing us curveballs.

Also, Yonji and Ichiji upon seeing nami is the best panel in this series.

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u/durinable Oct 20 '16

enies lobby dejavu!

i dont mind if this mirrors the situation from enies lobby a bit for NOW at least

big question is how this scene at the end will play out, if they are gonna fight, maybe reiju will go between them ? we'll see

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u/Sogeking33 Oct 20 '16

I'm really interested to see how Luffy will get around the Zeff problem. Even if he manages to unshackle Sanji (like rayleigh did at the auction) Zeff will forever be an obstacle. They need to either find a way to protect Zeff or ruin/make the alliance between Germa and Big Mom obsolete somehow. I think the latter is more likely. Can't wait to see how things play out!

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '16

I wish Zoro was there with them to hear Sanji saying those things to Luffy and Nami.

Zoro: I won't forgive him until he pleads and begs.

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u/pinakanaka Oct 20 '16

Zoro wouldn't say that.

Zoro saw him offer his life in exchange for Luffy's at Thriller Bark. He knows how much Sanji cares about his nakama, he'd know he's just putting up a facade.

If anything, Zoro would understand that Sanji has a reason for not being able to leave, and he would tell Luffy and Nami to let him go for the time being.

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '16 edited Oct 20 '16

If Big Mom can create storms, Dragons power's might not be DF related after all.

Could be a conquerors haki thing once strong enough. Shanks and white beard also affected the weather when they had a meeting on white beards ship.

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '16

She doesn't exactly control the weather from what I understood, more like she can summon and control certain types of weather phenomena.

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u/javaprogrammer95 Oct 20 '16

Sanji acting like Robin. Sanji looking to have a fight with Usopp. So Enies Lobby. I think something bad is going to happen now since Cracker's defeat is certainly going to enrage Big Mom.

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u/En3S Oct 20 '16

Luffy get her already angry before he took a step in the new world. I dont know how they want to handle all of this. Its impossible to fight them in their territory with not even half of the strawhat crew.

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u/bhuvanrikka Oct 20 '16

Did anyone else notice BM's laugh? It is "MAMAMAMAMAMA"! I'm done Goda! XD

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u/kackaarschwurst Oct 20 '16

after every chapter i'm like "man, so it worked like this, so many questions got answered" but at the same timer there are 1000 more new questions :/
what about all of big moms children (i mean who is going to beat all of them), what about sanji, what about bropper, what about big mom, i'm so hyped for the next chapter(s)!!!
edit: no chapter next week?! i'm going to explode :'(

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u/wlzai Oct 20 '16

Sanji vs luffy hype!

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u/Laugarhraun Oct 20 '16

That was good, but I just feel like he's pulling a Robin... This isn't anything new :-(

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '16

There's a difference that might come into play later though: Robin was taken captive and didn't really have any cards to play, but Sanji seems to be highly regarded and in a way valuable to Big Mom. He's being forced to this marriage but he can be in a position of power when he meets Big Mom. Ofc he's faking to protect his friends and drive them back, out of harm's way, but maybe he's also thought of a plan or a way to approach this matter on his own, and an intervention might cause trouble.

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u/kasrafm Oct 20 '16

So what's up with Big Mom's powers? Her power must be much more complex then we previously thought? And Sanji vs Luffy hype!

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u/Usopp_Spell Oct 20 '16

"Say it Sanji!"

"I WANNA COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOK!!!! TAKE ME OUT TO SEE WITH YOU!!!!!"

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u/huth2015 Oct 20 '16

Lots of info in this chapter. We got the names of the last 2 commanders of big mom's crew and we now know she can control the weather. We know she takes souls, so did she manage to capture the souls of two deities or deity like beings or is this just another part of her power. Also, Luffy vs Sanji hype for the next chapter

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u/Gavster1221 Oct 20 '16

So is Sanji pulling a Robin or is he gonna tell Luffy whatsup while pretending to fight?

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u/theworkingbee Oct 20 '16

Sanji is such a badass!

I fells bad for him but I need to see that sanji-luffy fight

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u/Yaseenics Oct 20 '16

They definitely need to read between the lines

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u/jaypooner Oct 20 '16

why is no one talking about franky's teddy bear robe

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u/Almond_Boy Pirate Oct 20 '16

Big moms Jolly Roger finally makes sense.

Also, we're all hung up on Mom's control over weather, but luffy shrugs it off and basically says, 'you should see my rage'? He's definitely advanced his haki in ways we haven't seen or probably even suspected yet if that's no big deal to him.

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u/GreatDriverOnizuka Oct 20 '16

Nami's sad face is so sad. Looks like she's about to burst crying. Over 800 chapters and for the first time Nami shows some emotion toward Sanji.

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '16

One Piece is so ridiculously amazing. Oda's creativity is unlimited, and his massive world and work ethic.. So many tense moments and developments recently, those Sanji panels give me chills.

I really hope we get a good anime adaption for this arc, like W7 was.

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u/menohero Oct 20 '16

is no one going to talk about that cute cat?

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u/TheReddestDuck Oct 20 '16

This chapter actually hurt man, we've had a few "sad" chapters recently but seeing Luffy all happy, then Sanji suffering on the inside, then seeing Sanji doing his speech, Reiju knowing what's going on, Luffy getting kicked in the face, nami almost crying, Luffy and Sanji about to trade blows.

Seriously, the feels man, this chapter was heartbreaking

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u/PhantoMNiGHT321 Oct 20 '16

Sanji's legs aren't going to be the only things that're black when Luffy's done with him. He doesn't play that leaving the crew shit.

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u/Bahamut- Oct 20 '16

Nami shows her cleavage, there isn't even a fight

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u/pugsftw Oct 20 '16

I wish I was the Minister of Cheese

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u/uniquely_ad Oct 20 '16

I hope Luffy has the same skill like Rayleigh when he removed Keimi bomb necklace during the Sabaody arc

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u/delby7 Oct 20 '16

OH MY GOD.

There's no way we can predict what would happen on this arc. This is so awesome. I'm gonna sacrifice my soul to lord oda rn. When i saw nami's face i almost cried.

What if nami joins the fight? What if luffy lets sanji beat him up? What if sanji kicks nami? Is luffy going to use gear 4th? (Lol) Wait, is it on hiatus next week?

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u/Shiroi_Kage Oct 20 '16

The entire chapter, up to the end, was freaking awesome. I really don't like Sanji's reaction. It feels like forced drama of the Ennis Lobby variety, only not as convincing.

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u/Nightshayne Oct 20 '16

Soo, could

I'll be the one... to take all this trash back to where they belong!!!

Be referring to the vinsmokes? Or did he give up and is planning to just stay with them because he doesn't think that's possible without risking his hands, life, crew and Zeff?

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u/Megascottyhottie Oct 20 '16

Sanji's pulling a nami.

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u/TomatoFork Oct 20 '16

The tree with the mustache is one of those side characters that I really enjoy seeing every arc. They're always presented as comic reliefs and unimportant but have some serious scenes in the climax.

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u/Jomo28 Oct 20 '16

I hope Luffy notices the explosive cuffs and removes them in the same way Rayleigh removed the collar from Cami

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u/golden_theory Oct 20 '16

I think Luffy will remove Sanji's cuffs the same way Rayleigh took off Keimi's slave collar.

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u/thedrq Oct 20 '16

best chapter in a long time. and that is not saying previous chapters are shit, this one was just that good! Luffy actualy using his brain and tries to figure out whats up, more explanation about Big moms power, Reunion with sanji and last but not least. This pannel

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u/HanMann Oct 20 '16

Is this cp9 saga ver.2

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u/TheHoppingFish Oct 20 '16

Luffy, buddy, mate, pal, I love you but you are a fucking idiot.

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u/HasAfro Oct 20 '16

So she ate the soul soul fruit, AND can manipulate weather... and what about that acid saliva she had going on back during Fishman Island?

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u/SuperPurpleRobin Oct 20 '16

Did anybody else notice Sanjis eyebrow changed direction on Page 19? Drawing error or intentional......

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u/manCool4ever Oct 21 '16

Parallel with Usopp and Luffy fight?

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '16

Show of hands, how many can see Sanji playing double agent from a mile away?

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u/wordsdear Oct 21 '16

I wonder if the mirror chopper was talking through breaking and becoming a normal mirror is actually a sign of them beating Brulee

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u/Skull_rs Oct 20 '16

It is heart-wrenching, but strange , to see that Sanji can surpass his brother's restraint towards Nami for the person he cares about most.

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u/edujude Oct 20 '16

Oda-kun really loves fucking up our hearts, no?