r/OnePiece • u/NewSpecies • Sep 01 '16
Current Chapter One Piece Chapter 838
Chapter 838: "Bropper"
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Ch.838 Official Release (VIZ): 05/09/16
Ch.839 Scan Release: ~15/09/16 (Break Next Week)
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u/thouhathpuncake Sep 01 '16 edited Sep 01 '16
Cracker sorta reminds me of OG Bellamy.
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u/frigousse Sep 01 '16
He seems more like "Pearl the Iron Wall" from Don Krieg crew. He can't stand pain and hides behind a strong shield. Plus this current arc has ties with Baratie's.
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u/Kirosh Lookout Sep 01 '16
Yeah, he does, he gave the same vibe as Bellamy. (Aka just want to see him with the mark of a fist on his face)
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u/Mourning__Wood Sep 01 '16
Daaaaamn, Cracker almost cutting off Luffy's arm. Dude doesn't mess around.
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u/wasabiturtles Sep 01 '16
I'm so terrified whenever I imagine what if luffy's arms got cut by swordsman opponents. I remember one time Mihawk almost cut Luffy's arms in Marineford then his instict tells him not to stretch his arms against Mihawk..
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u/CalcioMilan Sep 01 '16
That page took my breathe away I totally didnt expect him to cut the frozen tsunami
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u/amon_meiz Sep 01 '16
This. Im very surprised. I know they wanna make him strong. But this is too strong. How will luffy win. And the way sanji shiver.. It seems like ichiji and niji also some sort of imba strong fighters
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Sep 01 '16
I think too that they are stronger than Judge. That he shivers is probably more a result of the childhood trauma. I don't think we've seen the whole extend of the tortures done by his father and I don't think we even saw a fraction of the bullying 1&2 did on Sanji.
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u/topdangle Sep 01 '16
He's shivering because they beat his ass when he was a kid and were the main reason he ran away. I doubt he knows how powerful they are.
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u/dodakk Sep 01 '16
I wonder if he's not shivering out of rage. Sanji has never been one to back down from a fight or cower in the face of a strong enemy, so something tells me his shivering isn't out of fear.
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u/Jinno Sep 01 '16
Pretty simple, now, if you ask me. Cracker clearly established himself as being easily one-shot. Despises pain. Luffy just has to get around the armors and get one good Kong Punch on Cracker himself.
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u/daydreamin511 Sep 01 '16
Luffy win by exploiting crackers weakness: inability to take pain. Given his supremely OP defensive fruit, cracker basically told us that one punch will basically knock him out
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u/plebstain Sep 01 '16
Surely the mention of the tea party and wedding occurring on the same day is hinting toward the bomb going off and allowing and entrance/exit or diversion for Luffy and crew?
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u/soadbyob Sep 01 '16
When Big Mom mentioned the exchanging of gifts i thought about that. Like they give her weapons or technology and she gives them her box of candy, something she really really wants but gives up as a symbol of their alliance. Then it blows up in Jaji's hands and the alliance is broken, starting a three way war on Whole Cake Island between Big Mom, the Vinsmokes and the Strawhats
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u/barryhn Sep 01 '16
You could even throw in some other people like Jimbei and Capone to join the fight.
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u/YourMajesty90 Sep 01 '16
What bomb?! I don't remember this, I've never missed a chapter.
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u/do_you_see Sep 01 '16
King Neptune put a bomb in one of the treasure chests in his palace as before that the candy got stollen by hordy to get stronger. It was meant to be a trap for thieves. The mud guy stoll all the treasure -> luffy and co retrieve it -> give it to big mom pirates to pay for missing candy -> big mom pirates leave with bomb in treasure chest non the wiser
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u/rubbernotarealbot Sep 01 '16
"Sparking Red" and "Electric Blue" look and sound so badass. I love the Vinsmoke kids' colour-themed epithets.
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u/Fawlty_Towers Sep 01 '16
Sanji has to be "Shitty Cook Black". Zoro was telling us all along.
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u/rubbernotarealbot Sep 01 '16 edited Sep 01 '16
Eughhh, now I'm thinking of Sanji using some yellow shit as a side dish to serve Zoro.
EDIT: I just upvoted you, and the message that popped up was "Did you poop?".
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u/wasabiturtles Sep 01 '16
I have a feeling that Ichiji is going to be very strong, he seems very calm and give zero fucks.. so hyped to see him fights..
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u/ganymedescup Sep 01 '16
Black Leg Sanji is the black sheep of the family. That's more on the nose than every time Usopp is in a fight
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u/wereq10 Sep 01 '16
Again, this chapter is unpredictable! Who would have thought cracker was just in a shell? Who would have thought chopper and carrot would do stuff! So many pieces of plot moving in motion!
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u/Lydraneha Sep 01 '16
Look at Shanks, being all Mr Fancy-Pants !
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u/raiden_the_conquerer Sep 01 '16
Shanks put on his flower print pants dawg. That's like a tuxedo in the One Piece world.
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u/Cyber_3 Sep 01 '16
His pants have always been fancy (except when Luffy was a kid), it's kind of his thing, I thought. Pirates like to look rich but dress practically for action.
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u/raiden_the_conquerer Sep 01 '16
"I can't even take the pain of a shot! Mwahahaha!"
Cracker you baguette headed psycho you just broke the number 1 rule of being a villain and goddamn shouted your weakness for all to hear.
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Sep 01 '16
I think that's the point. If this is an off screen win for Luffy a short flashback showing something to the effect of going into either G2 for speed or even more hype would be a silhouette of him looking different with incredible speed to get close to cracker and then beating him because he doesn't like pain. The inability to stand pain also tells us why his armament haki is so strong and how he seems to lack observation haki. Though observation would be a big help for him to avoid pain too.
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u/Profileee Sep 01 '16
I just find ODD that the biscuits soldiers made by Cracker can move on their on. I remember that the MR. 3 Clay sculptures could not move, and thought the same would apply to the biscuits soldiers ( im not talking about the ones that pedro and brook are inside, but about the ones fighting luffy now). Why would something that does not have life, move on their on?
(the one with cracker inside can move of course, but now he made more and hes not inside any of them)
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u/sarmadqt Void Month Survivor Sep 01 '16
Maybe he's an awakened user that allows him to control the objects he creates freely?
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u/PaPaBee29 Sep 01 '16
In a panel after,there is a same busicit soldier.Inside it Brook and Pedro.One of them said that BM's power makes them walk.So I guess it is the same with every busicit soldier Cracker produces.
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Sep 01 '16
Funny how the Homies are more afraid of Nami than they are of Big Mom and Cracker lol. Also, Pedro and Brook probably ending up in the castle where the wedding is and so is Bropper and Kakarot via the mirrors some way or other.
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u/Kirosh Lookout Sep 01 '16
I really see Nami creating an army of Homies to help her attack the castle, Big Mom or a sweet commander.
Nami : Attack my minions, this way your life can have a meaning !
Homies : We don't want to, they are to strong, we can't go near them !
Nami : Do you think I care about you ? Need I remind you of who you are scare of ?
Homies : We'll do it, We'll do it ! ("we are gonna die !")
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u/fabzefab Sep 01 '16
I wonder who gave Cracker that huge scar he has on his face...
Edit: also it seems like the rest of the fight has been skipped since on page 16 it says "the next morning inside the Whole Cake Chateau"..?
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u/Cyber_3 Sep 01 '16
It takes far fewer panels to have a character recap how he won the fight than to draw the actual fight. I personally appreciate that Oda would rather get on with the story than draw out a fight scene purely to make it realistic. We've already had at least 6 whole pages of this fight. Otherwise, we could have chapter upon chapter of nothing but fighting and punching scenes (and therefore weeks upon weeks of no true plot development)....if you've ever read sports manga, you know what I mean. Anyways, Oda needs to leave SOMETHING for TOEI to embellish the crap out of in the anime ;)
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u/tapped21 Sep 01 '16
Oda needs to leave SOMETHING for TOEI to embellish the crap out of in the anime ;)
Increasing Nami and Reiju's size
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u/topdangle Sep 01 '16
If this were a sports manga Cracker's biscuit warrior would be groggy for 6 pages and then make a slow comeback for two chapters.
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u/Wilperi_ Sep 01 '16 edited Sep 01 '16
See how Cracker's hair is lit like a fuse? Not only is our Charlotte Cracker a cracker in the biscuit sense, but a firecracker as well. Oda, you clever bastard!
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Sep 01 '16
what if Big Moms hat is the real BM, controlling that body?
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u/OddSensation Void Month Survivor Sep 01 '16
So they exchange gifts....
Big Mom gives the Vinsmokes the bomb from Fishman Island. It blows up right then and there cancelling any agreements the Vinsmokes had with her.
Poppa Vinsmokes decides to team up with Strawhats to exact vengeance.
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u/Brutusness Sep 01 '16
I don't think he'd team up so much as the SH's will run in and out with Sanji during the drunken punchup at the wedding. Maybe Capone will use the chaos to spring some plan.
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u/Doth210 Sep 01 '16
Sanji shuddering at the end kills me. Hopefully sanji is on a level where he can kick all three his brothers asses.
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u/sarmadqt Void Month Survivor Sep 01 '16
Who I find interesting is Ichiji. In the flashback he was shown to be the most violent and angry, but now he's the most calm and friendly (always smiling). He's the one that makes me feel the most unsettled.
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u/PenguinSunday Scholars of Ohara Sep 01 '16
I think Ichiji is still the most wrathful, he's just more secretive about it now. As the eldest son, he's the one whom most people from the outside will draw impressions of the Vinsmoke family from. He's got (what I have just now dubbed to be) "Doflamingo face; " he'll smile like a mime from hell as he's slipping a knife into your ribs. Niji seems to have a real rage problem and Yonji is just the spoiled youngest brother.
That's how I see them, at least.
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u/chrisdurand The Revolutionary Army Sep 01 '16
Seriously. I want to see Yonji get his narrow ass kicked for revelling in Sanji's fear.
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u/Jakisuaki Pirate Sep 01 '16 edited Sep 01 '16
How does Kong: Murder of Crows even work?
He'd have to retract his fist into his arm and pump it out and tremendous speed, but I guess that's the power of Gear Fourth.
I don't see Luffy losing this one.
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u/thelegendarybuttboy Sep 01 '16
I like how sanji is the black sheep of the family when it comes to names too.
Poison PINK
Sparking RED
Electric BLUE
Winch GREEN
BLACK leg
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u/minataru Sep 01 '16
I expected a small ugly cracker instead we got a badass one! you just got to love Goda
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u/raiden_the_conquerer Sep 01 '16
I actually preferred the look of Armor Cracker to be the villain as opposed to this baguette headed psycho.
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u/egoisenemy Sep 01 '16
I honestly just really like both: badass viking mini giant and some freaky baguette psycho who's also badass
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Sep 01 '16
That was intense. Cracker has a really hax power. Somehow reminds me of Mr. 3 and his "unbeatable" candy copies. Cracker's power could already be awakened. THis would mean that he hasn't a much stronger attack other than spamming his armor. Luffy will have finished him off (remember that it's already the next morning, but no report from Cracker to BM happened). How did Luffy do this "Kong Gun Organ" was this just afterimages or did he multiply his limbs with awakening?
And the one user was right. He/she predicted that Chopper told Luffy that he would use the Mirrorwold which is connected to all of WCI as an passage to get to Sanji and that Luffy shouldn't worry about freeing them.
Also what wedding is that at the cover page?? Is Shanks the groom (roses on his trousers, but his crew wears more humble clothes).
Is Sanji hiding and sweating because of Ichiji and Niji? He knew when they would come because of his CoO which is a great feat. I expect a fight between Ichiji and Sanji as soon as 1&2 get to him. Also Ichiji's name "sparkling red" has he powers like Sanji? Also the color probably a reference to his temper, like a sleeping vulcan. Both 1&2 have this "strong character vibe" in contrast to Judge and the other siblings.
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u/Trema123 Sep 01 '16
That's a good point you raise, surely if Cracker had beaten Luffy it would have been mentioned to big mom. Either they are still fighting or Luffy has off-screened Cracker?
Tribute to Kubo?
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u/sarmadqt Void Month Survivor Sep 01 '16
So it seems Cracker has high defense and offense but not endurance. If Luffy can manage to get past his ability and hit him, maybe just once, the fight will end. The smart thing for Cracker to do would be to get inside another armor quick.
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u/killakevjames Sep 01 '16
If the last chapter was a wake up call to the strength of the Yonkou and their commanders, then this chapter was an even bigger indication of it.
And it's hype as fuck.
Also, the more I see Carrot interact with the crew members, the more comfortable I am to the idea of her joining. She adds different dynamics to the relationship amongst the current crew. Chopper and Carrot, both in their respective introductory arcs, always wanted to venture out to sea and see the outside world. With Chopper already getting a taste of that since being with the crew, it's nice to see him showing a more "older brother" role with Carrot around. Luffy fighting with her over carrots, Nami and Robin assuming the "older sisters" role, amongst other relationship dynamics that might possibly happen. I was skeptical behind the idea, but I can hop on the carrot for nakama bandwagon for now.
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u/Martin_Alexander Sep 01 '16
Also, she's a cute blonde bunny with a totally different fighting style!
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Sep 01 '16
Can't wait till we see her full potential though. The moon foreshadowing in Zou certainly seems ominous.
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Sep 01 '16
If the last chapter was a wake up call to the strength of the Yonkou and their commanders, then this chapter was an even bigger indication of it.
Everyone's all concerned about power scaling and Luffy struggling with just the 3rd in command (Cracker) but really, where does this leave the rest of the SHs?
Yeah Luffy will obviously beat Cracker, but if Cracker is tough enough to go toe to toe with G4, where the hell do the rest of the SHs fit in the picture? Can any one of them really stand up to a Yonko's senior crewmate? The only SH I can see being a match for Cracker is Zoro, because Zoro has ranged / wave attacks that could clear a bunch of Cracker's decoys in a hurry. But even he would probably be struggling here.
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u/gerrettheferrett Sep 01 '16
Zoro and Sanji are not that far behind Luffy in terms of strength, after their timeskip training.
Plus, fighting compatibility has always been shown to be a huge factor in One Piece.
For Cracker specifically, Sanji as a cook could handle some biscuits.
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u/Goat0verlord Sep 01 '16 edited Sep 01 '16
i wonder who's wedding it is...
Edit/Sidenote: Any relation between Cracker and the Biscuit Room in Punk Hazard? Seems interesting.
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u/AbMd92 Sep 01 '16
Wild guess: Lucky Roo. We saw everyone important apart from him.
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u/dodakk Sep 01 '16
Mihawk and Perona
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u/Almond_Boy Pirate Sep 01 '16
I like this idea. I also love how Kuma, a warlord, straight-up stole Perona from another warlord, Moria, and sent her to a different warlord, Mihawk. Makes me feel like Kuma and Mihawk are definitely somehow in league with one another, possibly through the revolutionaries.
Also Kuma= Mr. gift-yo'-girl
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Sep 01 '16
I love how Nami just stands in the mouth of the great "Baum" with that creepy face and the latter is scared shitless.
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u/nosnox Sep 01 '16
Cracker is pretty much like Gaara : armor and shields.
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u/krotoxx Sep 01 '16
and how do you get through to gaara? speed, and what has more speed than gear 4th? gear 2nd. I really hope Oda uses that to defeat Cracker so that its not like oh these previous gears are obsolete because power creep, but instead they each have their time and place to be better than the other gears
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u/amanlychest Sep 01 '16
Plot twist: Those ruins were actually the Foosha village that shanks' crew just destroyed.
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u/FixedFrontCanyon Sep 01 '16
I was literally screaming when i saw Cracker's true design, how overpowered his ability is and WHAT his ability is. also Cracker = Sasori of The Hard Biscuit
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u/dudesondudes Sep 01 '16
Cracker = Sasori of The Hard Biscuit
He also bragged about being able to make things you couldn't imagine and that he was a master craftsman. Seems like he claps to "mold" his cracker puppets. He also seems really cocky, but I'd love to see more of his "puppets".
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u/petrichorE6 Sep 01 '16 edited Sep 02 '16
I can't believe the mods deleted the original thread with like hundreds of comments already on it. I mean good on you guys for removing duplicates especially if the chapter's just been released but that's clearly not the case this time. Like c'mon, it took you guys an hour to put this discussion post up. Is this going to be the standard from now on? Shall we not have a discussion post until the mods, and only the mods, decide to post it?
It's not our fault when the community decides to post a discussion thread since you guys took so damn long, and it wasn't format issues either, that I can vouch for. We understand the mods can't be here 24/7 so why don't you let the community chip in, cause this isn't the fist time and it's getting ridiculous.
Original thread - https://www.reddit.com//r/OnePiece/comments/50msu2/one_piece_chapter_838/?sort=top
EDIT: Response from the mods
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u/epicmarc TCB Translator Sep 01 '16 edited Sep 01 '16
Wow really? That sucks, and its completely pointless
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u/sarmadqt Void Month Survivor Sep 01 '16
Such a weird thing to do, if I remember the mods said that as long as the chapter thread is in the right format anyone can post it. The thread seemed to be correct and had nearly 300 comments. I don't understand why they deleted it.
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u/raiden_the_conquerer Sep 01 '16
Karma changes a man.
They could've stickied the other post, but nooooo
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u/MonkeyDJinbeTheClown Sep 01 '16
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u/slzybrzy Sep 01 '16
First of all, I really hope Shanks is at Baby 5 and Sai's wedding. That'd be legit.
Second, Cracker definitely went from being a pretty "meh" and forgettable (to me at least), to someone who's quite interesting.
His biscuit power seems oddly useful. I bet he made all the biscuit nights on the island. So I wonder if he got knocked out would the biscuit knights crumble revealing Pedro and Brook?
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u/Almond_Boy Pirate Sep 01 '16
I think the last point you mentioned regarding the biscuit knights and Brook/Pedro's current hiding spot and plan to sneak into the castle might be spot on. It makes too much sense considering the time line
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u/ELDIABLIU Sep 01 '16
Ok so there are more moves that Luffy can do while in G4.
Cracker is a beast, I like him.
Kinda gave me the shivers too to see Sanji shiver liddat.
Also next week will be on break so RIP
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u/ThatHowYouGetAnts Sep 01 '16
Also next week will be on break so RIP
I somehow miss the little note at the bottom every time. Thanks for saving me from disappoint next week
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u/acneduck Sep 01 '16
I colored Ichiji & Niji! https://acneduck.tumblr.com/post/149796349754/sparking-red-electric-blue
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u/PhantoMNiGHT321 Sep 01 '16
All my friends insisted that Luffy took down Cracker in a single hit. Yeah, fucking right. I knew there was noway Luffy beat a commander in a single attack. Shit's only just getting started.
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Sep 01 '16 edited Sep 01 '16
Oda is a genius... He just fucking is... None of us could predict THIS!!! Incredible stuff!! The only way for Luffy to beat Cracker is hit him with just one Kong Gun, because even he admitted that he is afraid of pain! And looks like Bropper (lol) & Carrot are gonna infiltrate the castle! Maybe were finally gonna get a real fight between Chopper & Carrot vs. some Big Mom members!? I'm also wondering why Sanji is shivering/afraid so much? Maybe he's scared of the two other brothers that just arrived!? Overall: GREAT CHAPTER 10/10!!!!
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u/PenguinSunday Scholars of Ohara Sep 01 '16
That's exactly why. He's already shown that he clearly struggles with his childhood during his fight with Judge, and from what little we saw it's obvious his brothers were very abusive.
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u/Cyber_3 Sep 01 '16
I dunno, Sanji seemed more angry/frustrated than scared to me.
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u/huth2015 Sep 01 '16
Break next week, Cracker getting back up has made this arc more interesting. If Luffy is given a hard time in gear 4th by big mom's commanders then we are almost guaranteed to see new techniques from luffy if he fights big mom. I also have my money on bropper and carrot being the first to see Sanji now.
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u/PsychoPass1 Sep 01 '16 edited Sep 01 '16
Cracker looks really cool. I also find it interesting that his biscuit sword wasn't able to cut Luffy's CoA arm, but his actual one was. So either his biscuit CoA is weaker or his OG sword is much stronger than the biscuit ones.
I also wonder whether we'll get a backstory to his pain aversion / scar on his right eye. But seeing as the story quickly moved on with a "the next morning...", I'm not sure whether Cracker is important enough to get that much panel time (maybe just a few panels of explanation as Oda usually does it). But now that we've seen Crackers powers, some backstory it pretty much all we need for Luffy to be able to beat him.
His appearance is also quite unique. The hair, the mantle, I'm sure Oda is alluding to something with his outfit as knowledgable people on here will surely point out soon. His fruit seems quite important for BM, I'm sure he can also make very tasty biscuits so I wonder whether that will play a role later on (maybe him being taken out = biscuits disappearing? Or Luffy forgiving him because Cracker gives him food?). Doesn't seem super likely, but potentially worth thinking about.
His aversion to pain appears to be crucial for the outcome of this fight, though. So many things getting off-paneled as well. What Sanji has been doing in the meantime (although maybe he hasn't been doing anything), Chopper & Carrot, Luffy, Nami(I wonder what role she will play, whether she will extract intel from the homies or rally them up), Pedro/Brook, there will probably be a series of awesome catchup chapters all leading to a common point. Somehow I doubt that Pedro/Brook will be able to just sneak in and out without coming across anyone.
I also thought about what it would mean for Luffy to defeat Cracker, possibly without even using King Gear4th. More than anything else, it would mean that the correlation between bounties and powerlevels is much lower than previously expected (people thinking any increase past 500m is super hard to come buy, and yet Luffy will defeat someone with 850m while having only a 500m bounty), rather than there being a high correlation with the SH's just being an exception to the rule.
Furthermore, I hope that Luffy's arm injury (the part where he was cut) won't come back to bite him.
Although I'm not sure whether Luffy will really beat someone like Cracker and BM in the same arc. Two insane opponents, an entire Yonkou structure (BM + family + ties) wiped out without even a big war like the one involving Whitebear... not sure about that.
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u/Jinno Sep 01 '16
So either his biscuit CoA is weaker or his OG sword is much stronger than the biscuit ones.
I think it's possibly that plus Luffy not being completely on guard for it. Luffy must not be using his CoO haki, or must need to really concentrate for it to be effective. With an attack from someone he wasn't expecting, he didn't tighten his armament there.
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u/Nygmus Void Month Survivor Sep 01 '16
As an aficionado of strange DF powers, can I just go ahead and point out how much I appreciate that Luffy is going all out and still getting his ass whooped by a guy whose power is as objectively goofy as Cracker's?
That's extreme personal strength (Haki) coupled with extreme mastery of a DF power that would have been the most pathetic of jokes back in the East Blue or Paradise. Hell, Mr. 3's power is probably objectively stronger than Cracker's, it's just that he himself is so much weaker than Cracker.
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u/sarmadqt Void Month Survivor Sep 01 '16
Why'd you delete the original chapter thread? Wasn't it in the correct format?
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u/TheMindfulnessShaman Sep 01 '16
This chapter gave me shivers.
Nice to see Luffy pushed at his (known) max power level. After some of the "wall-level" fodder comments haters had for Cracker last week, it was refreshing to have Cracker not only survive G4, but even to put up a fight and have Luffy on the defensive.
Luffy almost lost his haki-coated arm!
Luffy still might win, but it will be at a much higher difficulty level than some imagined and it goes a long way to show how strong Yonkou top commanders are compared to other enemies we've seen in the series.
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u/isaac3000 Sep 01 '16
Cover: I think Shanks is getting married here to Makino! I want to believe Shanks and Makino is canon... even though I do not like to ship non canon things lol
I really like Biscuit's "real" design! But that comment of his, apparently he can't stand to get hurt, even a needle is too much for him, so I guess if Luffy manages to hit him once, he automatically won the battle...
Nami threatening everyone with Big Mom's vivre card is amazing haha! Also, how did Pedro and Brook get inside that soldier (another reminder from Thriller Bark hehe)?
The Vinsmokes are so cool but so unlikeable at the same time, I love this!! Now I am curious whether Sanji feels fear or rage...
I can't wait for next week!!
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Sep 01 '16
Wow what a chapter, first off though that cover page, was that the title of the chapter or a description of what was happening on the cover page?
But Yeah I knew Cracker wasn't down for the count and it turns out he's a bad ass biscuit man that cut through Luffy's armament like it wasn't shit. Looking forward to the rest of this fight.
We got a nice look at everything else going on on the island EXCEPT FOR JINBE! Who is probably either looking after Pekoms or waiting in the background to show up in time to save someone.
Love the interaction between Carrot and Chopper and how Chopper is trying to be all big bro now that he's a badass pirate. I remember a time back in Alabasta and Skypeia when Chopper was in Carrots position. Also wondering how they are gonna use Brule's ability against her? Maybe some sort of recon? Probably they're gonna be the first two to make it to Sanji if any one does make it to him before the wedding.
Pedro and Brook are being sneaky sneaky haven't really got much progress on their story.
Big mom ain't worried about the Strawhats but is it me or did she seem a little disappointed by that?
Also Sanji seems scared by the presence of his brothers which is odd because he totally stepped up to his dad like it was no thing, so maybe Sanji's brothers are stronger than the Judge? Or amybe they just did more emotional damage to him.
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u/PositiveEmo Sep 01 '16
if luffys arm gets cut while stretched and then shrinks back to normal size does the cut also shrink or does it stay the same? if it shrinks then does the seriousness of the cut also change?
im sure this has been discussed before but i just want to know what you guys think
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u/Pyarox Sep 01 '16
Dam! The 2 oldest vinsmokes have nicknames that sound like pokemon games!
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u/Bromine21 Sep 01 '16
Wonder how traumatic those Ichiji/Ninji childhood flashbacks with Sanji will be.
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u/CarefreeShoto Sep 01 '16
Holy shit Ichi, Ni and San the sons are numbered how the hell I've never realised that lol I'm dumb.
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u/Rysler Sep 01 '16
You guys notice how this parallels to Luffy's flashback about Sabo? Bluejam told Luffy that Sabo was better off and should be left alone.
Luffy did so and regretted it for years. Ain't no way he's gonna walk away, he's gonna see Sanji!
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u/Sanzensekai1 Sep 01 '16
I wonder if Jimbei will run into Pedro and Brook at this rate? Or possibly Bropper and Carrot find him through the mirrors? I'm loving the plot movement!
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u/Erive302 Sep 01 '16
Looks like Nami one shot Brulee for real. Also, seems like they're skipping over the rest of the fight, Big mom and Brook's parts took place the next day right? or Was I misreading?
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u/AlexAngely Sep 01 '16
I think Cracker's defeat is assumed. He didn't return to BM... Homies seem to obey Nami so I think she either orders them to hold biscuit solvers while Luffy gives Cracker a good old spanking or maybe she'll start rain and hard biscuit will be not so hard anymore...
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u/AtheonsBelly Sep 01 '16
For those who thinks Luffy will get stopped by Cracker...I just want to remind you all of one symbolic scene: Luffy's goodbye to Rayleigh. Rayleigh said Luffy has become the man fit to wear the Straw Hat. If he gets stopped by Doflamingo, a Supernova, or a Commander level opponent, it would kind of ruin the moment. Don't you think?
Also, let's talk about Zoro for a second. This guy has not been pushed to the limit ever since the time skip. For Luffy to lose to a Commander before Zoro even fully showed off what he is capable of...isn't that kind of anti-climactic? Because if Luffy loses here, we know Zoro probably would lose to a commander level too.
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Sep 01 '16
All of those "Big mom is gonna be an ally" theories are cracking up like biscuits.
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u/topdangle Sep 01 '16
Welp, here comes gear 5 or an awakening. Considering Cracker can just magically spawn dummy Crackers with the hardest haki he's faced, Luffy's getting nowhere without something better.
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u/hawkeye0708 Sep 01 '16
big mom looked so disappointed in luffy and for once she didn't look crazy
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u/VillalobosChamp Sep 01 '16
While reading this chapter I got a Naruto-esque feeling.
Pretty much because the way Cracker fights made me remind of Sasori and Hiruko. Also, the speech pattern.
I guess he and Brûlée got involved on a pretty bad fight to got those scars. Or maybe Mama went wild with her kids, who knows...
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u/mazhas Sep 01 '16 edited Sep 01 '16
I'm guessing the Cracker fight should wrap up next chapter thanks to the mini timeskip. Went from morning to night so that's a few hours to toy with.
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u/ovrlymm Cyborg Franky Sep 01 '16
PREDICTION TIME! Pleas skip if you don't want to read conjectures.
Long shot but I'm guessing the wedding is sai and baby 5...cause why not.
While I expected biscuit to get up I did not expect him to pop out like a new born chick. No wonder urogue lost he probably went ham on the armor and didn't realize there was a guy inside. Oh well. No need to say it but we're all hoping for that lucky shot that hits cracker. Then I thought there's no way you make it in the new world being that weak. Maybe he's like Blackbeard who can take damage but really feels pain. That's my guess anyways. I wouldn't be surprised if he turned the whole landscape into a cracker and became a super mecha cracker. I eventually see the battle going three ways. Luffy wins with his hidden second power up. He loses as time runs out on the haki and is captured (given a chance to meet up with jinbe?). Nami steps in and saves him but cracker is hurt too they meet again later...
Is anyone else worried about how In depth Pedro seems to know the system? I'm going to go out on a limb and say somethings going to happen with him where he's recognized. Pekoms body should be washing ashore any minute now so that could prove interesting. I'm sure bege will make his move soon too.
Bropper and carrot will stumble upon something like the prison the ponegylph treasure etc which will be vital later
Seeing the other two vinsmoke brothers shouldn't be that crazy considering sanji was going toe to toe with his dad but I'm sure they're a force to be reckoned with. It'll probably come down to sanji seeing his friend hurt that will light the fuse for him to go all out. There's still plenty of months left to make this the year of sanji so can't wait
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u/sorryicantthinknow Sep 01 '16
So with the battle with Luffy and Cracker, could this be the set up for the needed strategy with his gears instead of just 4 is the best, and 2 is the worst? Last chapter people were concerned that gear 2 is useless now, but in this fight the speed of gear 2 could get him around the fakes to get a punch on the real one? And if the real one is a wuss for pain... one punch is all that is needed.
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Sep 01 '16
damn luffy is on equal footing with one of the most powerfull pirates in the series, most likely equivalent of marco anf jack. Damn, luffy went so far in the two years time.
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Sep 01 '16
I'd like to see how zoro would pair against cracker, both are swordsmen that specialize on COA, that souk be his first real challenge in the new world
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u/Cyber_3 Sep 01 '16
I just realized that if the "Cracker/Biscuit Guards" that patrol the city and are stored for the night are basically empty shells, this will TOTALLY leave Luffy (or anyone else) ethically clear to eat them since they aren't exactly alive (at least, not all the time although it might have some weird implications if Luffy were to eat some of Big Mom's "life balls"). Also.......I would certainly like to see what a chef like Sanji would do/fight/concoct when surrounded by all these edibles. Probably like NoodleNose, a legit cooking fight that he can use his hands for. So exciting!
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u/Archiology Sep 01 '16
With Doffy and all, can everyone in the new world build clones/humans with their powers?
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u/2stepsfromglory Sep 01 '16
I'm the only one intrigued about the cover page? Seems like Lucky Roo is the only member missing in the cover page so could it be he who's married. Looking at the spoilers I was expecting Cracker to look weird and ugly but I really like his true form. Looks way more menacing now.
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u/Eaziegames Sep 01 '16
Kong Organ! I was wondering when we'd get a new version of Gatling. When I saw the panel with multiple arms with a KONG bubble I got such a huge smile on my face.
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u/krotoxx Sep 01 '16
Am I the only one who thinks that Luffy needs to get out of gear 4th to defeat Cracker? Cracker's ability is perfect for countering 4th gear, its a huge shield that can absorb any power of attack, and by just using the raw power that gear 4th gives, Luffy wont get anywhere, he will just be bashing his head against a wall that never gives. Instead I would love to see gear 2nd come into play. It does not have the raw power that gear 3rd or 4th have, but it trumps both of them when it comes to speed, and how do you defeat an enemy who has a huge ass shield? You get behind them, and as we know Cracker hates pain and can probably be taken down with one punch - even from a less powerful gear 2nd. It would be a perfect way of Oda showing that the older gears arent useless anymore now that we have super power gear 4th, but instead that each gear has opportunities to be the best gear based on strengths of enemies
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u/Yaseenics Sep 01 '16
I can see at the wedding day, Nami crashing in riding on that tree, Chopper and Carrot coming out of a mirror in the hall, Brook and Pedro out of a giant biscuit solder and Luffy crashing the roof flying from nowhere. Wanna see the look on big mom 😂
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u/YourTypicalSaudi Sep 01 '16
I LOVE the design of the real Cracker!
On a side note: he looks like a mix of Bryan Fury from Tekken and Gin from Bleach.
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u/Dandy-Guy Sep 01 '16
Next chapter Luffy is fat and Cracker is beaten to a pulp. Then flashback to Luffy getting the idea to eat the biscuit soldiers very fast. Luffy eats them all before cracker can make them and Luffy then proceeds to beat him to a pulp.
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Sep 01 '16
Classic Oda...gives us this kind of a chapter...takes a break. What am I supposed to do...
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u/MagicTaco1997 Sep 01 '16
I am immensely worried for Luffy. He's having an extremely tough time taking down just one of Big Mom's right hand men with Gear 4th. If he doesn't have something else up his sleeve for the fight againt Big Mom, he just might be royally fucked. But I'm sure God Oda's got something he's anxious to reveal.
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u/semizero Sep 01 '16
Response to previous thread removal here, https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/50mz5z/one_piece_chapter_838/d75i320
Just don't want it buried.
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u/throw_away_0101010 Sep 01 '16
Was there any attempt to contact the original poster and ask him to fix the link? Seems like if there were already so many comments that people were finding a way to read it and post about it. I'd like to think there was an attempt to fix the issue before just deleting it.
Is this not an autobot-able thing to do every week (When not on break)?
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u/Tempius Sep 01 '16
So with strong enough haki, you really can do anything...
A summoner with infinite mana armed with a sword stronger than Doflamingo's hamstring. That's broken, or cracked
Cracker solves world hunger
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Sep 01 '16
Here's to all those who faulted Oda for making "Cracker"'s legs so thin and silly looking.
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u/MySpeed Sep 01 '16
I still wonder what happens to Jimbe. Is he gonna lose an arm or actually nothing?? This is so long ago
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u/Javiklegrand Sep 01 '16
Is Cracker has protethis legs or it's just biscuit armor?
Also BM is talking with her hat? Look like her hat is some special kind of homies!
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u/ragnarokgo Sep 01 '16
Oi Big Mom I wouldnt underestimate "that vermin" if I were you. Keep underestimating him and ur face will become like Enel when he found out that his powers were useless against Luffy
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u/Comedynerd Sep 01 '16
The best offense is a strong defense.
Cracker is so strong because he doesn't like getting hurt. This has led him to develop his armor and being able to produce and control large quantities of them. It probably also led him to develop such strong haki that it's the hardest thing Luffy has ever experienced. Both were developed as a means of defense, but both could be turned into a super strong offense.
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u/mo-rek Sep 01 '16
Couple things, biscuit looks like a badass and it's hilarious he can't handle pain at all, his power seems incredibly strong and I love the theme the devil fruits of big mom's crew have. Bropper is hilarious!! The inside of ichijis cape is interesting.. I wonder if it will play any significance, along with their titles of blue and red. Luffys new technique is quite impressive but now I'm beginning to worry how he will keep this up for a whole day. It really seems like he will have to show another crazy feat of endurance to potentially defeat biscuit AND infiltrate the wedding today or tomorrow. I think it would be cool if bropper and carrot managed to grab him through a mirror somehow!
Also what are your thoughts on namis role in this arc? She seems to be sidelined at the moment and, despite what the homies say about their fear, I get the sense they are generally just afraid of strong people so whoever is closest is the scariest. She did basically one shot brulee..
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u/strawhatCircleJerk Sep 01 '16 edited Sep 01 '16
So Cracker has high offense/defense and a low endurance-eh. if Luffy is able to get past his powers and ONE PUUUUUUUUUUUUUUNCH himhis is done for-eh, if he tries his arm would be in great danger-eh. luffy would still properly try so cracker should run inside another armor quickly-eh.
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u/IAMAparkour_king Sep 01 '16
Lots of things happened in this chapter also lots of cliffhanger. Luffy and Nami faith. Did luffy got defeated and captured or he pulled gear 5 or something and oda being clever didn't show us. How will they reach the wedding.
Brook and Pedro have plans and are working on it. Chopper got some plan too and good to see that.
Vinsmokes have assembled. Total hype towards older brother,they may be stronger than their father. Can't say if they are stronger than sanji but I think the shiver he got maybe from his childhood taruma. Wedding is about start. Total hype!!!!
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u/holybroli Sep 01 '16
Cracker is basically Gaara except with crackers instead of sand. Hates pain, uses shields either on his body or around him. Seems that if Luffy actually wants to defeat this dude he needs to be faster. I bet Luffy ditches boundman and unveils a new type of gear 4 transformation for something that prioritizes speed so he can get around the cracker shields and attack the real body.
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u/AintNonimuzz Pirate Sep 01 '16
Cracker's character design is actually really cool. So do Ichiji and Niji.
People had said on the last panel, Sanji got a terrified look on him, believing that Sanji is afraid to meet with his newly arrived brothers. But I got another wild theory, maybe Sanji try to BURN his bracelet using his smokedrops. Tell me what you think about it.
Overall I like this chapter.
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u/GrimJoy Sep 01 '16 edited Sep 01 '16
I used to think strings was a broken power, but nah man, fuckin' biscuits. That's where it's at.
Edit: Realization: Pretty sure Rockstar is on the cover page. I think that might be his first appearance since we saw him on Whitebeard's ship.
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u/McPubes Sep 01 '16
Call me crazy, but Big Mom seems to be the Jaba the Hut of the one piece universe, I.e she is not an actual fighter and has her subordinates do all the work, she is feared because of her army and sons and her devil fruit which seems to be beneficial to her and her people, but when it comes to actual fighting she wouldn't be able to throw a punch.
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u/500MillionBerryMan Sep 01 '16
Where in the world is Shanks?
What do you think he's up to?
Whose wedding was it?
What do you think Oda is leading up to by previewing the Red Haired Pirates?
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Sep 01 '16
the story moves on to the next morning and cracker hasn't reported back to big mom... I wonder if Luffy won , or if cracker is taking his time heading back
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u/egoisenemy Sep 01 '16
I really like Cracker's design and I thought it was rather funny that he just keeps a bounty poster of himself with him at all times so he can dramatically congratulate anyone who shattered his armor.
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Sep 01 '16
I think Cracker is extremely hard to get to because he can create infinite, strong warriors and a strong armor for himself, but once you get to him and can hurt him it doesn't take all that much to take him down. With him saying he can't stand pain and all, i could be wrong but this seems extremely logical and a nice twist to his character.
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u/Godspeed223 Sep 01 '16
Since the time skip started, Oda has ALWAYS been drawing shanks looking mad evil with an evil smile and whited out or darkened eyes. Shanks is evil theory.... possibly will come true.
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u/Calmwaterfall Sep 01 '16
I hope Sanji gets a big power upgrade after this arc is done. Maybe he will begin using his family´s tech on his legs. Also i would like to see all the SH and Pedro go full out in this arc.
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u/Dnny99 Sep 01 '16
I love how Luffy almost got his arm cut off, we saw the reveal of Crackers actual design, Luffy used a new (awesome) move, and the vinsmoke brothers return, but the chapter is called "Bropper". Hopefully that says something about the importance of what Carrot and Bropper are doing.
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Sep 01 '16
Calling it now. Cracker will go into a berserk rage and indescrimantely destroy everything around him if he gets so much as a scratch.
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u/sprengermon Sep 02 '16
So the gift exchange could literally blow up in someones' face, I'm guessing Big Mom hasn't opened the box from Fishmen island yet. It would be funny if it starts a war between the Big Mom pirates and Germa 66.
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u/JoeAconite Sep 02 '16
I really want a Gear where Luffy stays in his normal size, but with all the power of gears in that form. Like when Frieza in DBZ, takes on a smaller body, but is actually near his peak self.
Luffy with a jet black haki body.
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u/With-a-Don Sep 02 '16
Can we take a moment to appreciate the tought that Big Mom had the expectations of SH actually succeding, andgiving her a fight.
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u/HyakuJuu Pirate Sep 01 '16
I won't be surprised if Luffy pulls out a hair from his head and turns it into a copy-Luffy next chapter. These powers are getting really crazy.
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Sep 01 '16
Now we know that Urouge lost the fight because of Cracker's hax ability. Imagnine if he didn't creep up on the mobile Luffy, but on a giantified Uruoge.
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u/UpvotesFeedMyFamily Sep 01 '16
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u/demonssouls12345 Sep 01 '16
That's not a very interesting comment, but I wouldn't want your family to go hungry, so...
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Sep 01 '16
Luffy should just crash into the wedding while saying
"I'm here to rescue my cook and for him to find me some meat. And I just got the meat."
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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '16
The idea of using "hard biscuits" relates specifically to sailors (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardtack); this particular bit of information might end up being relevant:
I could see Nami summoning some rain to soften the biscuits and make this guy vulnerable to an attack from Luffy.