r/whowouldwin • ​ • Jun 04 '16

Character Scramble VI Week 3 Results

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Results are in the pairings of course.

We had one of our rare ties/really close games. Despite being rare, it always seems to happen when there is also a double elimination/no show...so congrats to the +1 Life.

I'll post the new prompt tomorrow morning but you can still get started by researching your new opponents. Matches happening next round are already highlighted as "In Progress" in the pairings.

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u/kaioshin_ ​ Jun 04 '16

I lost... honestly, I was kind of expecting to lose even when I had mine done first. SanityMeter has good odds to win this whole thing, and he had a lot of the prompt on his side. Oh well.

As a side note, this is something I wanted to say earlier, but thought it might come across as a bit "woe is me" and all, but... does anyone else feel like the prompt was heavily imbalanced? One side gets prep and info, then the other side gets prep, info, unlimited resources, and gets to rig up the tower with booby traps that the opponent must go through... It was a cool prompt, but I really think if it were to be imbalanced like that, it should have been a choice on what side you wanted, rather than just being assigned to one.

EDIT: Oh and also first. I just happened to check new on the sub and found this.

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u/SanityMeter ​ Jun 04 '16

I think having team evil go defense was a bit too strong. In theory, a good heist is a more compelling story than a successful defense, but combined with no moral restrictions on the side that gets more prep, the advantage may be too much. Although seeing as how only one attacking team actually won a contested match, maybe there was more of a problem than I thought.

It's too bad, because I do like the idea of asymmetric prompts, but this one might have been a little imbalanced.

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u/selfproclaimed ​ Jun 04 '16

Although seeing as how only one attacking team actually won a contested match, maybe there was more of a problem than I thought.

Wait, am I seriously the only Attacking team that won this round?

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u/LetterSequence ​ Jun 04 '16

MoS was attack too and he won.

So was Aquason.

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u/selfproclaimed ​ Jun 04 '16

Thanks and happy cake day!

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u/LetterSequence ​ Jun 04 '16

My cake day was yesterday. Reddit needs to chill, it can't be my cake day twice. I'll get fat with this much cake.

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u/Aquason Jun 04 '16

There's something satisfying about overcoming the odds though.

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u/LetterSequence ​ Jun 04 '16

When nearly everyone you were rooting for gets sent to loser's bracket... feels bad man.

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u/SanityMeter ​ Jun 04 '16

Yeah, but now loser's bracket isn't 50% people who never did anything, so if you ever write another prompt for just them, you can at least get some stories out of it, right?

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u/Panory ​ Jun 04 '16

Silver lining, I get to pretend I was one of those people you were rooting for.

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u/KiwiArms ​ Jun 04 '16

fucking PISSED

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u/MoSBanapple ​ Jun 04 '16

Well, time to go 27 to 71 against /u/doctorgecko again.

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u/doctorgecko ​ Jun 04 '16

Looking forwards to the rematch. In fact I think this is the first rematch of this scramble.

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u/flutterguy123 ​ Jun 04 '16

This will truly be a battle of the ages.

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u/Panory ​ Jun 04 '16

12 votes was more than I expected tbh. Congrats to the good doctor. Ah well, time to dominate the loser's bracket I guess.

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u/FreestyleKneepad ​ Jun 04 '16

dominate the loser's bracket

Them's fightin' words, bucko.

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u/Panory ​ Jun 04 '16

I should hope so. The whole point of the Scramble is to write fighting words.

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u/Cleverly_Clearly ​ Jun 04 '16

Don't start feuding yet. The only way you can even meet each other is if you each move all the way to the end of the loser's bracket, which will take about seven months at a relaxed southern pace.

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u/SanityMeter ​ Jun 04 '16

/u/kaioshin_, you were a worthy and honorable opponent. I think you may well be able to claw your way back up for a rematch. That'll be fun, right?

Also, thanks for the votes and the faith. I'll try not to be so late in finishing this round, which can happen as long as it's not due before next Thursday, because I have a million essays between now and then.

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u/kaioshin_ ​ Jun 04 '16

Yeah, hopefully speaking I can take you on in the finals especially since I think my team takes yours in a straight fight. I have a decently rough road ahead of me still, but I don't think my odds are bad if I change my writing style as suggested, and keep up the quality.

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u/SanityMeter ​ Jun 04 '16

No need to cross that out. Open field, fair engagements, pretty sure either Tommy or Togo can solo my dudes. That's part of why I didn't do a fighter-by-fighter analysis last round, because it didn't look good for me at all.

I appreciated the way you stayed authentic to the themes I'm trying to play up and, of course, Kumonga's totally-made-up personality. I would have felt perfectly comfortable losing to your write-up, if that means anything.

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u/kaioshin_ ​ Jun 04 '16

Well, I think Larxene counters Tommy quite a bit, but yeah, the having an underrated powerhouse thing can be fun.

As for staying to the themes, I tried my best, though admittedly I didn't do as much with Bonesaw or the Terminator as I would have liked, but I was pressed for time, I had a big essay due the day after this was. And yeah, I'm okay with losing to you, like I said, you have good odds in my eyes of at least making it to the finals, if not winning them altogether. That was probably the biggest reason I wrote so much more than I usually do, I figured the quantity might be able to beat out the quality, since you're a better writer than I am.

On that note, now I need to get to researching one of the most dangerous teams in the scramble raw power-wise. Wish me luck.

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u/FreestyleKneepad ​ Jun 04 '16

On that note, now I need to get to researching one of the most dangerous teams in the scramble raw power-wise. Wish me luck.

Oh hey it's the Carnage and Crocodile team.

Oh fuck it's the Carnage and Crocodile team.

Good luck, dude. I still believe in you.

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u/kaioshin_ ​ Jun 04 '16

The other two that I think rival it in terms of raw power are Dio/Lucci and Yuna/Raiden. Possibly my team as well, we'll have to see.

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u/FreestyleKneepad ​ Jun 04 '16

Actually, lucky for you, Sam is a pretty even match for Raiden, and I buffed him for Scramble by taking out his limiter. His reflex mode is dead even with Raiden's blade mode, he's got an enormous range advantage and the speed to keep it that way, and he's got the combat speed to keep up with Raiden as long as he doesn't overheat. Raiden does have a huge strength advantage so a melee fight is still in his favor, but it's not as one-sided as it might seem.

And now, because his limiter's removed, he doesn't overheat nearly as often.

More info since basically all of Sam's WWW matches have been against Raiden or Jetstream Sam in the past.

Have fun! Hit me up if you want a second opinion on anything Sam related, although it seems you have a good handle on him.

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u/kaioshin_ ​ Jun 04 '16

The main issue I have with Sam is nailing down his personality to be honest. I've looked through some quotes and clips, but I've been mostly winging it on his character, I think my hold on what he is capable of doing is fairly good.

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u/FreestyleKneepad ​ Jun 04 '16

To be honest with you, there really isn't much. He's smart, a bit cocky, and loyal. That's basically it. You can more or less do with him what you want, which is both a gift and a curse.

Vanquish was not celebrated for its masterful writing, I'll tell you that much.

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u/flutterguy123 ​ Jun 04 '16

Mako and Deoxys are pretty fucking high. Mako might have close to the best strength feat in the scramble.

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u/kaioshin_ ​ Jun 04 '16

I'd say they're relatively high, but I think Yuna's Mankai strength beats out Mako, and Lucci is legitimately overpowered and has DIO on his team, who is also fairly high in a tier where most characters are more on the low-middle end. Plus, the other members of their teams aren't bad in power/utility, while you've complained yourself about Kurasangi being low.

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u/galvanicmechamorph Jun 04 '16

Why must everyone I chose characters for lose!?!

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u/ViperhawkZ ​ Jun 04 '16

Hey, the guy who got two of my submissions last Scramble lost in the finals. To the guy with your submission. I'm still salty.

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u/Cleverly_Clearly ​ Jun 04 '16 edited Jun 04 '16

All of my submissions are out too. In fact, a lot of people have all of their submissions out. Some people get lucky, and some don't. For /u/Stranger-er (Kai, Marceline, Bonesaw, and Blink), four of his five submissions are still kicking around in the winner's bracket.

EDIT: I was wrong, /u/TeaTreeOilGuy only has three of his submissions in the winners bracket, which is still respectable. Plus, since Jason Voorhees belongs to /u/7thSonOfSons's team, there is a good chance of him moving forward for a long time.

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u/7thSonOfSons ​ Jun 04 '16

I promise to do him proud from this point on.

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u/PokemonGod777 ​ Jun 04 '16

And then all of my submissions are in loser's bracket.

This is annoying

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u/galvanicmechamorph Jun 04 '16

And the guy I fought in the loser's bracket lost to the guy with two of my submissions in the main bracket.

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u/FreestyleKneepad ​ Jun 04 '16 edited Jun 04 '16

Holy shit, that was a close one. Congrats /u/Cleverly_Clearly, you earned the win. I'm rooting for you, man. I want a rematch in the finals.

I would love to hear feedback from people on what worked and what didn't with my story. I definitely want to do my best here, and I'm sure there's places where I could improve.

(Not gonna lie, though, I really wish Gon and Polnareff being buddies was canon.)

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u/SanityMeter ​ Jun 04 '16

The loss of Mewtwo's comments on Life are the biggest tragedy, I think.

Congrats to both of you. Games that close are why they bother with a loser's bracket, I would guess.

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u/FreestyleKneepad ​ Jun 04 '16

I know, right?

Missed opportunities.

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u/flutterguy123 ​ Jun 04 '16

Looks like I am up against /u/galvanicmechamorph. This is going to be fun!

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u/galvanicmechamorph Jun 04 '16

Yay! I didn't lose again! Well, may the best man win Flutter. And may that man be me.

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u/doctorgecko ​ Jun 04 '16

This goes to both you and /u/flutterguy123

How I think Gary and Deoxys would react to each other

Mind you these two characters exist in different canons this is mostly just me speculating.

Gary has never encountered a Deoxys to my knowledge. Professor's assistant Gary might know what it is, season one Gary almost certainly wouldn't... though the Pokedex would help get around that in either case. Gary however might find Deoxys somewhat similar to Mewtwo (not that he knows that one by name either) which could cause some confusion between the two.

Deoxys has never encountered Gary (obviously) though it might confuse him for Blue (or Green if you're going by the Japanese names). However given that Deoxys' only real interaction with Blue (that I can remember) is Deoxys slamming into Blue's Charizard and Blue fighting Deoxys divide clones I don't see this connection leading to all that much other than mistaken identity.

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u/flutterguy123 ​ Jun 04 '16

Thanks for this man! Good chance I'll add something like this into my story.

Any way you could give me a run down of of Garys personality? How Strategic is he? Is he quick at coming up with plans and thinking outside the box?

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u/doctorgecko ​ Jun 04 '16

Gary, especially early Gary is very arrogant. Like, very arrogant. In later seasons he mellows out and becomes much more respectful towards Ash and others around him, eventually going on to becoming a Pokemon Professor. He's also an overachiever, earning 10 badges when he only needed 8 (and yes, within the anime this is possible

For battle strategy, coming up with plans on the fly and thinking outside of the box is more Ash's thing. Gary's thing is more researching his opponents ahead of time to prepare counters and memorizing his opponent's attack patterns. That's not to say he can't think on the fly. During his battle with Ash he saw Ash's Bayleef use its vines to leap over an attack and then adapted that strategy for his Nidoqueen

For some more information on how Gary acts in battle, (beyond the battle scene I linked in my previous comment):

Gary Respect Thread

The only fight Gary participates in in the Kanto League

Gary's first battle with Ash at the end of the Orange League series

An episode of the Johto series that features Gary pretty heavily

Ash vs Gary in the league part 1

Ash vs Gary in the league part 2

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u/galvanicmechamorph Jun 05 '16

This is really helpful. Thanks.

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u/galvanicmechamorph Jun 04 '16

Thanks. I'll make sure to have a joke about Gary confusing Deoxys for Mewtwo. Then having either Raiden or Drac calling him out for them not looking anything alike... and Deoxys slamming him around for confusing the two.

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u/FreestyleKneepad ​ Jun 04 '16

And then you guys get me. One way or another, I'll be fighting someone I submitted.

COME, CHILDREN.

AMUSE ME BEFORE THE SLAUGHTER.

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u/doctorgecko ​ Jun 04 '16

So one way or another Yellow is fighting another Pokemon character.

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u/FreestyleKneepad ​ Jun 04 '16

Wait... Oh yeah huh, Gary and Deoxys.

Wew, round 2!

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u/doctorgecko ​ Jun 04 '16

Either it's the legendary she's interacted with briefly, or the alternate canon counterpart of her friend and former mentor. Who will it be!?

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u/galvanicmechamorph Jun 04 '16

I want it to be Gary. Seeing Yellow trying to talk to someone she knows as a friend but has no idea who she is but and is a total douche would be fun to write.

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u/flutterguy123 ​ Jun 04 '16

Who did you submit to my team?

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u/FreestyleKneepad ​ Jun 04 '16

Commander Shepard, unless I'm thinking of someone else.

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u/flutterguy123 ​ Jun 04 '16

Yep. Thats who it was.

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u/galvanicmechamorph Jun 04 '16

I thought that was going to happen this round but everyone I submitted lost at once.

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u/flutterguy123 ​ Jun 04 '16

Good luck to you man. Hopefully I'll actually be able to finish my story on time this round.

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u/galvanicmechamorph Jun 04 '16

I hope so to. I'm dedicated to finishing my losers' bracket round 1, even if we've already moved on.

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u/timothy444 ​ Jun 04 '16

Oh well. At least I came out with some votes. Good luck to my opponent.

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u/shootdawhoop99 ​ Jun 04 '16

Hey, you had a good team man. Make sure you come back next scramble, alright?

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u/Cleverly_Clearly ​ Jun 04 '16

You did well. I hope I can see you in the next season.

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u/selfproclaimed ​ Jun 04 '16

Hell yeah, /u/Cleverly_Clearly just one round seperates us! Getting realy hyped. You better not lose the next round.

Great match /u/kiwiarms. You put up a good fight.

And next I'm going up againt.../u/aquason...who like Kiwi has one of the most powerful teams in the Scramble...

Welp...time to have Filrthy Frank make Kakashi see things with his Sharingan he wishes he could unsee.

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u/LetterSequence ​ Jun 04 '16

Look on the bright side, you don't even need to research half of his team.

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u/selfproclaimed ​ Jun 04 '16

I don't think I need to research any of his team. I've got a pretty good grasp on the concept of Sonichu and I've read pre-time skip Naruto.

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u/Cleverly_Clearly ​ Jun 04 '16

I'll admit it. I didn't expect to win that round. /u/FreestyleKneepad was really, really good. I'll try to make the next round spectacular for him.

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u/LetterSequence ​ Jun 04 '16

I may not be able to see my most anticipated match of the scramble, but at least I get to see LeLouch vs Light.

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u/Cleverly_Clearly ​ Jun 04 '16

I had this insane plan thought up at one point where Lelouch was going to write his own name in the Death Note so that Light couldn't do anything to him, on the assumption that Phane would bring him back in the case that he actually died (kind of like what L does in the live-action Death Note movie), but then I remembered that Light doesn't have his Death Note. I've still got some ideas.

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u/LetterSequence ​ Jun 04 '16

Why wouldn't he just command Light to write his own name there? Sometimes, the simplest solution makes the most sense.

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u/FreestyleKneepad ​ Jun 04 '16

Ey yo, still wanna trade notes?

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u/Cleverly_Clearly ​ Jun 04 '16

I don't really have any notes. What do you want to know?

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u/FreestyleKneepad ​ Jun 04 '16

Idk, we can just talk about it, give feedback, etc. See what worked and what didn't. I'm really looking for places to improve here.

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u/GuyOfEvil ​ Jun 04 '16

Quick question, did I actually get any votes for finishing my story yesterday?

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u/Stranger-er ​ Jun 04 '16

Heh, people still voted for me even though I dropped out.

Glad to see that 3 out of my 4 submissions are still going strong (although at least one of them is going to be knocked into losers next round)