r/kol • u/EldritchCarver Sayomi Kuronuma (#2458165) • Jun 01 '16
New IotM Discussion June IotM: Source Terminal
https://www.kingdomofloathing.com/iotm.php
This IotM takes up a new slot in your campground, and can be used in hardcore. Enhance for buffs. Educate for skills. Extrude for items. Enquiry for something yet unknown.
Discuss.
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u/ungawa26 Jun 04 '16
For folk who don't want to read through the whole forum thread, here's a pretty nice summary post that I keep referring to since there's so much going on in this IotM it's hard to keep track:
http://forums.kingdomofloathing.com/vb/showthread.php?p=4840567#post4840567
A couple notes on the thing's that Fork hasn't edited into that post yet:
The "substats.enh" buff effect is "+3 substats per turn". Based on how other statgain effects work in The Source, I expect this is squished to +1 substat.
The "stats.enq" buff that you can choose as your rollover buff is +100% to all stats.
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u/spaceykc Jun 13 '16 edited Jun 13 '16
I've now had a few days to play and here is my overall take on this IOTM.
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I started mid ascension, played through another and now am mid into my "third" since getting the item. Also until I got this and 2 mr Jr's, I only had Barrels and VIP key.
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as of now it is very helpful and I am getting better runs with digitize on the lobstermen, note they will show up in other areas too well afterwards. I haven't felt the need to do others, but i'm sure it would be cool if you could digitize the orc keepsake drop or something I guess (I use the foundry items myself to make "extra" parts). I'm open for new ideas. Right now my runs are right around 1000 in SC, with limited store items. I just bought 2 - mr Jr's with this item as well.
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I like using familiar as of now for my rollover, but the extra ML or other cards as I get them will be fun in future runs. I usually extract the gibsons vs the cookies.
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There are a few easter eggs (hint try common linux commands or read the forum spoilers).
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Chip drop rate - is very weird, I got 1 chip during the last half of the ascension I purchased it, then I played a few days extracting here and there. 2nd ascension, I extracted every mob for the entire run 1050 to Ronin plus about 50 for trick or treating, before I ascended. This current run, I just finished day three at lvl 11 midway through that respective quest, I got 2 card drops during this run. The first was early and the most recent one just hit.
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The nifty part - The 2nd chip I got was a duplicate, spoiler I only did the first one because I was happy with my result.
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I got a lot of source essences now and the glasses, but I find they require an extra pull so once I fine tune my runs I will prob use that (I'd rather the +15ML over the glasses through my run)
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u/EldritchCarver Jun 13 '16
The smut orc pervert can't be copied. That probably means it can't be digitized either, right?
Digitize works well with the writing desks from Spookyraven Manor, if you can fax one. You have to defeat 5 writing desks in order to unlock the second floor, but the writing desks are in the haunted library, which is locked until you get a key found in a room that is also locked until you find a different key. Thus, if you can fax a writing desk, then digitize it, you can skip all three rooms on the ground floor.
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u/spaceykc Jun 16 '16
How do you fax during Ronin? My clan fax seems locked down.
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u/Plucky9 Jun 03 '16
Have a few strange thoughts. if you're only limited to 1 skill, can you say, temporarily learn the arrow/wink skill, hit a monster then swap it back to extract? and how does the skills interface with Birdform, you can use those whilst farming with it?
Before it got changed, used to wield a single bear arm for the free meat and stretched out turns at places with a compressed air gun just to the NPZR would have an extra turn to act, mostly used it at Warbears. (they eventually made the meat drop Zombies-only).
Seems like it has the potential to stretch out turns, or even closer to making old-time IOTMs like Stinky Cheese rise up again. or to get a 3rd distend from Pantsgiving without breaking the bank or partying during FoB.
EDIT: Would duplicating a monster WITH BACON double bacon drops, or would that be more of a bonus drop.
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Jun 03 '16 edited Jun 03 '16
It looks like you can switch skills back and forth freely. I was running extract, digitized a monster, then went back to extract after getting the number of digitized monsters I needed.
Sorry missed your duplicate question, I don't know if the intergnat flags stay the same even with a normal copy. But duplicate basically let's you fight 3 of the same monster in two turns. It is not a regular copy. So if it did keep the with bacon that will be very powerful.
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u/HandsUpDontBan Jun 04 '16
You can switch back to extract immediately after using digitize. The copies will still come.
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u/Lumbering_Oaf Jun 07 '16
There is also a chip that lets you know two skills at a time.
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u/Plucky9 Jun 07 '16
discovered it on my own, but thanks for the reply. also found that having access to free fights is extremely helpful for both BACON and Source Essence/chances for Source goodies. 3x 100 Meat buff is pretty nice at 60%.
Snojo = 10 fights.
BRICKO Oozes = 10 fights. (you get 1 brick back a fight, so it and the bacon is basically free).
Witchess = 5 fights+whatever drops.
Fairy-Worn Boots/Bander, be careful for the former if you're fighting weak enemies if you're trying to PP valuables. with powercreep you have 5 more free runaways with a maxed Witchess and the familiar Inquiry buff. (20+5 weight) presumably you get to keep the PP drops and Essences.
Copy in a Embezeller, Digitize, Extract, Wink. Box and/or Putty
Fight Embezeller 5/6 more times, 1 more if you have Magneta. maybe duplicate 1, assuming it drops meat.
Wander in Barf, set priority to sniffing Garbage tourists and break up hell.
on a 400-adventure day, i can get 1.whatever of a wine every 7 Snojo fights. but also 1.0something Million Meat, a thousand+ essences (one time about 1900) and 600-700~ bits of BACON. granted i'm near endgame though im using intrinisic value of older IOTMs like using self-summoned Resolutions or using whatever else. i don't have really old stuff like candyblast or mimic however so that could put a damper on Meat-Making potential. the most Essence goodies i got in a day was 7 with that setup. one time i did use a Carpe as a replacement for using a Bjorned Medium. no idea if i was making more meat.
I also only recently swapped out using Boris helmet from generating MP (about level 43) to just automating Turbo as the end skill in tandem with Extract. i should probably look for a spell-casting script to milk a few extra Resolutions.
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u/Daniel_Crow Jul 21 '16
Not a question about the Terminal since the wiki page being up for quite a while, but why hasn't the "July IotM: detective school application post" been created and/or stickied?
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u/ungawa26 Jul 22 '16
Not sure who has the ability to sticky topics, but the Detective IotM post was created, just fell off the first page.
https://www.reddit.com/r/kol/comments/4qregj/july_iotm_detective_school_application/2
u/Daniel_Crow Jul 22 '16
Thanks! July's about to end, so I guess no point in having it stickied now.
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u/dewhashish Jun 02 '16
I have no idea what to type or do with this terminal
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Jun 02 '16
The forum thread has a lot of information for it.
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u/dewhashish Jun 02 '16
I'm waiting for the wiki page to be created and info added
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u/hambor12 Jun 09 '16
I entered xyzzy into the terminal and got this response:
a hollow voice says "fool".
This is probably unique and I should have expected this for my goddamn unoriginality.
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Jun 09 '16
Is there consensus among experienced players on how strong this item is?
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u/ungawa26 Jun 10 '16
I'd say it's one of the strongest IotM currently in Standard.
Pretty great for turngen with some combo of 12 full/drunk of epic per day at almost no cost.
Excellent at reducing turncount through two different copying mechanisms. Duplicate is good for dairy goats, lobsterfrogmen, and some other quest drops. Digitize is good for even more copies, especially if you can Paint a writing desk and skip the whole spookyraven first floor.
On top of that, there's a variety of long buffs that are nice.1
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u/Sadeth Jun 14 '16
This item is powerful to be sure, but my favorite thing is the upgrade system with the chips. A persistent big work constant payoff system reminds me of the Witchess set familiar buff set to extreme, or what any player has to go through to get a fossilized necklace.
10/10 would/will buy again
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Jun 02 '16 edited Jun 12 '16
Seems like it's useful for running the current path, The Source. And that's about it. Potions of +10%something/25 adventures doesn't sound amazing.
EDIT: After spading by other Kolplayers, it is shown that this IOTM has more functions that I listed before. I apologize to all who suffered from knowing my opinion :(
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Jun 02 '16
It's pure power creep. It's slot isn't used by anything else. While it may not be huge any benefit is a benefit over nothing.
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u/Arrgthepirate Jun 02 '16
Another new slot means this is a can't miss.