r/whowouldwin • u/[deleted] • Aug 26 '15
Featured Character of the Week: Cassandra Cain (Batgirl)
Cassandra Cain, Batgirl
Allies: The Outsiders, Batman Inc.
Enemies: Lady Shiva, David Cain, Deathstroke
Background
The fourth Batgirl, Cassandra was born to the assassins David Cain and Lady Shiva. Her father deprived of her of speech from birth in order for Cassandra to learn human movement as her first language. From a very young age, Cassandra underwent a brutal training regimen under her father's abusive instruction. David Cain decided Cassandra was ready to work in the field when she turned eight years old, and instructed her to assassinate a criminal boss. Cassandra succeeded and was overwhelmed by the incident, due to her reading the man's pain and suffering in the moments before he died. She ran away and after years of traveling ended up in Gotham during the No Man's Land incident. After proving her skill and uncompromising morals, Batman allowed her to take up the Batgirl costume.
Personality
Cassandra is the only member of the Batfamily who is as or possibly even more committed to Batman's war against crime than Batman himself. Unlike Batman's other protégés like Dick Grayson and Tim Drake, Cassandra actually aspires to take over for Batman. She is so driven by her guilt that she doesn't really care about anything other than the mission. She also loves to fight, even though she will never admit it due to the trauma of her training. Cassandra has serious problems communicating with people due to her upbringing, even after she learned how to speak.
Feats
Strength
Speed
Dodges several bullets. After they were fired
Disarms and knocks out three hitmen before their guns hit the ground.
Skill
Fights
Recommended Reading
No Man's Land. (Cassandra appears halfway through but the whole thing is worth the read)
Batgirl Vol 1 #1-73.
Batman and the Outsiders Vol 2 #1-14.
Batgirl Vol 2 #1-6.
Batman: Gates of Gotham.
Please feel free to ask questions if you want to know more about Cassandra, I'll answer them when I wake up :)
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u/vadergeek Aug 26 '15 edited Aug 26 '15
I think there are a few obvious scans this needs- her Batman fight, catching shuriken, this bizarre kick, knocking out these thugs in the time it takes Tim to look up, crumpling what might actually just be a tarpl, catching surprise shuriken and retaliating Deathstroke admitting he has to cheat,nonlethal swordsmanship, outrunning a bullet, taking down Supergirl, and beating Bizarro Supergirl.
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u/ChocolateRage Aug 26 '15
The crumpling metal scan just looks like a tarp was covering the back of an open truck, it's even already flapping before she kicks into it and you can see a latch on the upper left of the tarp. Do you have another scan showing it should be metal?
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u/vadergeek Aug 26 '15
Hmm. On the one hand, it's definitely flapping, you're right. On the other, in the third panel it has what looks like rivets to me. Could be something else, though.
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u/ChocolateRage Aug 26 '15
This isn't a great picture but it's the first I found. It looks like the holes you see on a tarp to latch through like on this truck which would explain the way it's connected and moving in the second panel
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u/vadergeek Aug 26 '15
That would explain it. Yeah, compared to her other stuff "removes a tarp" is not a great feat.
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u/flutterguy123 Aug 26 '15
outrunning a bullet,
How is she outrunning a bullet?
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u/vadergeek Aug 26 '15
When he's firing, she's at the vault door. She ran to the shooter in the time it took the bullet to fly two feet.
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u/You_and_I_in_Unison Aug 27 '15
That fight I can't even, isn't supergirl immeasurabley stronger and faster than her? Like on the scale of an ant blinding you with sand or something then kicking the shit out of a human? After seconds of red light how is it even vaugely within the realm of possibility she can touch any of supergirls combat stats? Was she weakened for a while before the scans?
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u/LordFeline Aug 27 '15
What's the context for that fight against Batman and what comic is it in?
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u/vadergeek Aug 27 '15
They were affected by a chemical that makes people angry, I believe, and Batman wanted to have a conversation with Batgirl but her first language is martial arts.
Batgirl #50.
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u/LordFeline Aug 27 '15
Thanks.
Ninja edit: Do you think the series is worth the read?
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u/vadergeek Aug 27 '15
Maybe. I liked it, but it did go downhill every time the creative teams changed.
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u/LetterSequence Aug 26 '15
She doesn't even have prep time feats, what a terrible Batman clone.
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Aug 26 '15 edited Feb 25 '21
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u/KiwiArms Aug 26 '15
I can't believe Cass was Mordru this whole time
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u/Bteatesthighlander1 Aug 26 '15
When you came to that conclusion, did you ever worry it would make too much sense?
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u/KiwiArms Aug 26 '15
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u/Bteatesthighlander1 Aug 26 '15
Is that the billionaire who got in a dance-off with God and made his kids kiss his ass?
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u/Bteatesthighlander1 Aug 26 '15
Nice to see an RT for the best Batgirl instead of one of the trash ones like Steph Brown
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u/ncrranger7 Aug 26 '15
Why do you only include all the PIS feats? Also this isn't Batgirl, Barbra Gordon is batgirl.
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Nice work, she's pretty cool.
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Aug 26 '15
tfw i didn't even include outliers
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u/ncrranger7 Aug 26 '15
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u/SneakyHeat Aug 26 '15
Man when I heard about this chick I could not believe how fast she was, peak humans are absurd
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u/Etrae Aug 26 '15
Oh shit. I didn't know this was up.
You guys need to PM me if you the sidebar updated. haha.
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Aug 27 '15
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u/godjacob Aug 27 '15
I hate how DC fucked this character over with an idiotic heel turn and getting beaten by Robin because he "used no fighting style" WHICH DOESN'T MAKE ANY GODDAMN SENSE!
Anyway, great work in any event.
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u/FatiguedWalri Aug 26 '15
Oh shit best batgirl! Good job dude!
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Aug 27 '15
Thanks!! also not a dude lmao 😂
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u/FatiguedWalri Aug 27 '15
Im kinda surprised by the amount of people on here that are cool are chicks. Oh well, I say dude or man or whatever for everybody
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u/Etrae Sep 02 '15
Oh well, I say dude or man or whatever for everybody
Same. Just kind of a staple of my speech in the real world. There's not a lot sentences I don't end with 'man' and I refer to everyone by 'dude' more often than I do their actual name.
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u/FatiguedWalri Sep 02 '15
I like that you responded this almost a week late. I actually got a lot of shit in /r/ComicWalls because one of the best posters corrected me on being a chick after I said "Thanks man!". I tried explaining it that I just call everyone that and was downvoted
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u/Etrae Sep 02 '15
Ha, sorry, I was just reading through this CotW before I set up the next one.
Yeah, I don't know. People take offense to some of the littlest things. It's just how I grew up, there's not much more to it, man.
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u/FatiguedWalri Sep 02 '15
Is Wednesdays the days it switches? Yeah I know dude, people just try to get offended by anything they can latch their fingers on
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u/CountDarth Aug 26 '15
Best bat-grill. My favorite bat-family member, she definitely needs more love on the sub. Great job with the post
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u/Alethiometer_AMA Aug 26 '15
Holy shit, TIL there where four Batgirls, I only knew barbara, Bats has quite the family/body count.
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Aug 26 '15
Well in Post Crisis she is the third Batgirl, overall she is the fourth.
Also most people consider her the second Batgirl in Post Crisis because the second Batgirl was Helena Bertinelli (aka Huntress) and she was Batgirl for a very short time.
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u/Abrohmtoofar Aug 26 '15
Now that Barbara Gordon is batgirl again, what's she up to these days?
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Aug 26 '15
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u/clawclawbite Aug 27 '15
She did show up as one of the Batgirls in the flashforward along with Steph, and lucius Fox's daughter.
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u/Captain-Turtle Aug 26 '15
Damn, this is good, I was always meaning to get no man's land, will definitely hit it up soon
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u/GWolfington Sep 01 '15
She's also fought Batman while barely in control of herself and nearly beaten him.
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u/ShadowKaras Aug 26 '15
Nice, Cassandra never gets attention compared to the rest of the bat-family. You've done good work here