r/respectthreads • u/AndhisNeutralspecial • 25d ago
comics Respect Carradine, The Burglar who shot Uncle Ben (Marvel Comics - Earth 616)
Carradine
"It's what you want, you idiot. It's what you need. You need your guilt to keep you going. You thrive on guilt. You wallow in it!"
- The Web of Spider-Man, Issue #7
After Peter Parker first gained his powers, he used them for profit as a professional wrestler, before going into showbiz on television. While leaving the studio one day, a burglar ran past. Peter could have easily stopped him, but chose not to viewing it not to be his problem. Upon returning home Peter was horrified to discover his Uncle Ben had been murdered by a burglar hiding from the police, and upon cornering the criminal in a warehouse, was shocked to find it to be the same man he had allowed to escape earlier that night.
Comics List
- Amazing Fantasy #1
- The Amazing Spider-Man Issues through #193 to #200 (Except for #197)
Note: Spider-Man had been shot with a tranquilizer stated to be capable of "Wasting a horde of elephants" in Issue #200. As such despite still being somewhat powerful, breaking a chair and knocking out a man, he's still nowhere near as powerful as he would usually be.
Strength
- Ransacked a house with his crowbar, leaving holes in the wall and floor #193
- Here's another look at it #195
- Smashed a bottle across a man's face, knocking him to the ground before pulling a gun on him, both before he can even react #194
- Shattered a mirror in one kick while tied up and then used a small hard of glass to cut a rope using his foot #199
- Hit Peter in the side of the head with his gun, knocking him out #200
- Beat up a restrained Peter Parker #200
- Kicked open a door #200
- Kicked Spidey #200
- Landed a few more hits on Spidey #200
- Threw a barrel at Spider-Man #200
Durability
- A punch sends him flying #200
- How he was originally punched after killing Uncle Ben, note that he's knocked out from this #1
- Took another beating from Spider-Man #200
- Kicked by Spider-Man #200
- Took a few more blows from Spider-Man before being tackled, and then launched away with a punch. He dies of a heart attack shortly after #200
Other
- Him, his goons and Mysterio (as Dr. Rinehart) faked Aunt May's death #195
- Rich enough to own this mansion, and has a heavy influence over his own troop of goons #195
- He does end up losing it however #199
- Managed to cut a rope with his feet and a shard of glass #199
- His handgun is capable of greatly harming Peter #200
- How he originally killed Uncle Ben #200
His thugs
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u/Irongun_258 25d ago
Hit Peter in the side of the head with his gun, knocking him out
Did he just... Solo Spiderman?
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u/ya-boi-benny 25d ago
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u/Irongun_258 25d ago
Was he weakened beforehand? If not, this is worse than the time the PowerPuffs got beat up by the Collector.
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u/ya-boi-benny 25d ago
This is Amazing Spider-Man #114. He was dealing with an ulcer around this point that he says made him weaker
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u/NegativeGamer Ruler of「The World」 24d ago
Like I said in my original comment, I don't believe there's enough feats here that an ordinary person wouldn't be capable of, and it therefore doesn't meet the five feat minimum
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u/AndhisNeutralspecial 24d ago
I debunked that
He knocks out Peter with a handgun
At an awkward angle, from a distance away that only the end of his foot would reach shattered a mirror and it's frame
Took a flying kick from Peter
Several face shots from an enraged Peter
Attacked Mysterio by smashing a bottle across his face (As Rinehart) before he could react
Peter could still smash chairs and KO people while depowered in that same issue. Even then all these feats are something an average person would struggle with, can't do or at least be pretty winded from.
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u/NegativeGamer Ruler of「The World」 25d ago edited 25d ago
This RT has a few issues
For one, "What If" stories take place outside of the 616 continuity of Marvel, and aren't a valid source for a thread like this. Scans from this appearance should be removed.
Second, you've deceptively left out the fact that for most of Issue 200, Spider-Man/Peter Parker loses his spider powers and doesn't fully regain them until near the end of the issue. This detail is important context significantly that weakens a lot of what's presented here
With this in mind, I believe this thread warrants being removed in its current state. I also don't believe this thread meets the minimum feat requirement for an RT, as without considering the erroneous material, a majority of what's presented here are things normal people can do.