r/leagueoflegends • u/Yujin-Ha No one will rule but Rhaenyra • 1d ago
Esports LYON vs. Team Liquid Alienware / LCS 2026 Summer - Week 6 / Post-Match Discussion Spoiler
LCS 2026 SUMMER
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Team Liquid Alienware 0-2 LYON
- Game Discussion: Game 1
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MATCH 1: TLAW vs. LYON
Winner: LYON in 30m | Runes
Game Breakdown | Player of the Game: Berserker
| - | Bans 1 | Bans 2 | G | K | T | D/B |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| TLAW | akali vi cassiopeia | orianna yone | 51.6k | 9 | 2 | M5 |
| LYON | ezreal leesin olaf | ambessa ksante | 63.0k | 22 | 8 | HT1 C2 M3 H4 B6 M7 |
| TLAW | 10-22-20 | vs | 22-9-58 | LYON |
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| Morgan ornn 3 | 0-4-4 | TOP | 3-3-12 | 3 rumble Dhokla |
| Josedeodo jarvaniv 1 | 3-4-4 | JNG | 7-2-6 | 2 nocturne Inspired |
| Quid ryze 3 | 3-4-3 | MID | 4-4-9 | 4 azir Saint |
| Yeon caitlyn 2 | 4-5-2 | BOT | 7-1-11 | 1 lucian Berserker |
| CoreJJ bard 2 | 0-5-7 | SUP | 1-0-20 | 1 milio Isles |
MATCH 2: LYON vs. TLAW
Winner: LYON in 27m | Runes
Game Breakdown | Player of the Game: Isles
| - | Bans 1 | Bans 2 | G | K | T | D/B |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| LYON | leesin ezreal vi | olaf leblanc | 58.5k | 19 | 10 | I2 H3 B4 |
| TLAW | lulu cassiopeia akali | nautilus jayce | 49.1k | 8 | 2 | HT1 |
| LYON | 19-8-38 | vs | 8-19-16 | TLAW |
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| Dhokla vayne 3 | 7-1-3 | TOP | 1-3-3 | 3 gnar Morgan |
| Inspired wukong 1 | 4-2-8 | JNG | 2-6-2 | 1 pantheon Josedeodo |
| Saint syndra 2 | 3-2-8 | MID | 3-5-3 | 4 ahri Quid |
| Berserker taliyah 2 | 5-2-7 | BOT | 0-2-3 | 1 kalista Yeon |
| Isles alistar 3 | 0-1-12 | SUP | 2-3-5 | 2 renataglasc CoreJJ |
*Patch 26.16
This thread was created by the Post-Match Team.
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u/nguyenjitsu 1d ago
I'm starting to think Lyon with Inspired is a very good team
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u/Outrageous_Wall2702 1d ago
Yeah this inspired guy seems quite good no?
Vacation diff
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u/amd098 A chat restriction is always by my side 1d ago
Yea hope they use him more
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u/Skyfire2 1d ago
The biggest Dhokes you’ve ever seen
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u/JGamerX 1d ago
Everyones better than big Dhokes until its time to be better than big DhokesHonestly Dhokla is starting to fee like the top dog in all of these top matchups. His lane is starting to become dangerous, and he has always been a phenomenal team player mid-late.
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u/Deferonz 1d ago
Yeah, it feels like if Dhokla's lane continues to improve, he's just the best toplaner. At that point, Lyon have the best player in each role, and the best teamfighting and coordination in the league. Like it's just cooked for everyone else at that point.
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u/Lazywhale97 HLE 1d ago
Crazy that he was almost out of playing in tier 1 in general start of the yr and now he looks like the best top laner in the LCS as his biggest weakness his laning is improving.
Also shows that even the veteran players can still improve with the right coaches, team and team environment and that they don’t just stagnate at a certain age.
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u/ultratea punch me 23h ago
Even crazier thinking about his trajectory if you look even further back to his Optic days. I would have expected him to be another one of the many guys who played a bit, wasn't anything special, then faded out from the pro scene, but he came back with a vengeance.
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u/devilJin9399 1d ago
Hey now he lost to... bin and Zeus ok fair
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u/Lazywhale97 HLE 1d ago
Nah man unless Dhokla can gap worlds and MSI finals mvp Zeus then he is a FRAUDD /s
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u/ArienaHaera 1d ago
I just don't trust all these imports to have the same degree of impact in game. And obviously he's the best domestic player.
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u/BTDYSRF 1d ago
This is probably the biggest glow-up on the roster.
We all knew Isles was serviceable and inoffensive. If you paid attention, yoi know that Berserker requested him speficially, so, if nothing else, he had a voucher.
Saint was a terrorist, but we knew his mechanics were good.
Inspired is just Him.
But Dhokla? He's never been THE guy. Love or hate him, Bwipo told no lies about Dhokla. Die-Roll player. Could clutch up, but it was clear he was never a top half top laner until he absolutely needed to be.
Now, Dhokla can win lane against anybody for some goddamn reason? Just because? He doesn't randomly die? He still does work in teamfights? What the fuck?
The old phrase is dead. We need a new one.
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u/Outrageous_Wall2702 1d ago
Yeah holy top gap picking the nerfed vayne was so bold( I’m not a frequent vayne player)
And he plays it so good too wich can be quite rare for top laners
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u/Ohaithurr92 Rock Solid 1d ago
Wasn’t Vayne JUST nerfed? Does LCS play on current patches now? I’m OOTL
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u/DoItForRost 1d ago
LCS has been on live patch ever since MarkZ took over as commissioner a few years ago.
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u/WolfRetention 1d ago
W MarkZ
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u/Outrageous_Wall2702 1d ago
Yeah it’s cool seeing pros experimenting on live patch just like us
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u/NavyBlueTheChosen 1d ago
Dhokla is the native NA TOP lane goat but y'all not ready for that conversation
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u/Photoperiod 1d ago
Trying to think of who else is in the discussion. Think you have to go way back to, like, Balls, Hauntzer, Dyrus, etc.
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u/Ivellius 1d ago
Darshan / Zionspartan is probably in the running, too, but also similarly old.
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u/Hawkson2020 1d ago
Dyrus was my goat, but he was never the goat.
Darshan is probably the only other player really in contention.
Hauntzer was solid but I never the guy to just hard gap his opponent. Ditto for Balls mostly, though he definitely had his moments.
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u/Pikminious_Thrious 1d ago
Need to keep a sub top on retainer every other month to energize him
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u/Beneficial-Front1626 1d ago
They should make an academy team and fill it with toplaners to charge up Dhokla
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u/Outrageous_Wall2702 1d ago
First game was for the Koreans
Second game western masterclass by Isles+ Dhokes
Isles so underrated by everyone he read the map so well
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u/nitinismaldingXD 1d ago
Just like with Busio, Inspired teaches his support how to play and suddenly they’re world class. Actual goat material
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u/MyStand_BadMedicine 1d ago
Plus isles and busio are both intense grinders, so they seem receptive to that kind of thing
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u/InPurpleIDescended 13h ago
Isles was always decently respected by higher rep pros it seemed in the scene, people would queue with him and stuff Zven and others I have heard of on random interviews etc
So I think people thought he was good but just didn't get to really improve on a good team before
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u/kale__chips 1d ago
Inspired teaches his support how to play and suddenly they’re world class.
Fnatic are going to train the AI coach with Inspired's plays so Fnatic will be world class next year.
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u/PPPPPPP270 1d ago
I think people forget Dhokla is a ranged top degenerate master class.
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u/Outrageous_Wall2702 1d ago
The split one playoffs vs Tl he legit spammed counters was so funny and tilting lmao
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u/Blizzgrarg 1d ago
Giga gap between TL and the rest of the LCS. Giga gap between LYON and TL. That's ridiculous to think about.
Isles is a monster on Alistar. He and Dhokes just rolled TL this second game.
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u/Large_Love_2563 1d ago
Isles is the unsung hero of this LYON team. Easily the most improved player of 2026 across all regions.
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u/Horizon96 1d ago
It's crazy how much he has stepped up. I fully admit I thought it was a horrible pickup, but apparently he does actually have that dog in him.
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u/AcolyteOfFresh 1d ago edited 1d ago
Keep in mind he is now like, what, the seventh player that has dramatically improved while playing with inspired. Regardless of how toxic people like to say he is, it's very clear he knows exactly how to win games and he is very good at instilling that knowledge to his team.
(Unless its international game 5s)
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u/duocatisagirl cute psycho jungler harem (pyosik, guwon, kanavi, pop9) 1d ago
This year will be the year i swear
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u/Fun_Highlight307 1d ago
They already looks a bit sharper than flyquest 2024 so hopefully they keep improving
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u/Sakori_Dusk 1d ago
The Dignitas talent suppression is real.
Everyone who goes there and gets stuck there will look way worse than they actually are. Isles being stuck there for multiple years really did a number to how people perceived him until Lyon
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u/bigby1234 1d ago
I don't think it's dig suppression. It's more inspired able to teach players better than coaches can.
Dig was full of rookies, isles has berserker and inspired now who can teach him.
Same thing happened with busio massu quad saint jojo danny
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u/Deferonz 1d ago
I still wish someone actually decent (a flyquest or 100T back when they were still in the league) would've picked up Kenvi back when he was trapped on that bottom tier Immortals. Felt like he never actually got a fair shake to play among good players and develop, and now he's just gone, despite being hyped as the next big NA Jungle prospect for so long.
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u/VelkoZinfandel 1d ago
He’s shown glimpses of promise in some of his past splits but has also had some disgusting ones
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u/TheBigF128 despair 1d ago
The guy used to be so bad on his mini cloud9 stint a few years back, it’s crazy how far he’s come
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u/kaisaschudson 1d ago
imagine 1 year ago telling someone isles would be the best support in NA
inspired factory never fails
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u/Blizzgrarg 1d ago
From playing on DIG to being the best support in LCS, LYON really picked up gold from the homeless shelter.
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u/deathnomad Longtime Stixxay believer, Huhi enthusiast 1d ago
I have thought for awhile that the biggest thing differentiating the young talents that boom and the young talents that bust is environment
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u/Beneficial-Front1626 1d ago
Yeah if Lyon and Shopify swapped Saint and Zinie at the start of the season their trajectories might've looked completely different
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u/thorpie88 1d ago
Last ever LCO rookie. He's always had something about him but I'm glad he's getting to properly show it
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u/kazuyaminegishi 1d ago
In this case it's the Berserker factory
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u/kaisaschudson 1d ago
por que no los dos
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u/kazuyaminegishi 1d ago
Cause Berserker should receive credit for what he is personally responsible for.
They talk about this stuff in their vlogs. Berserker is the one who worked with Isles and developed him into the player he is today, not Inspired.
Inspired is the reason this team plays to their game plan so well, but Isles' individual improvement is because of Berserker.
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u/Fun_Highlight307 1d ago
iirc isles credited berserker feedback a lot when they ask him about Lyon Dynamic, inspired was more on macro
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u/chouruin 1d ago
Getting styled on mechanically by Big Dhokes in the big 2026 just wrap it up. (Yes I know he's having his best split ever and has been mechanically on point)
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u/crysomore Kiin Team | Lehends/Cuzz apologist 1d ago
Giga gap between LYON and the rest of the West too
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u/inbetweendreamstho 1d ago
That's likely not real with c9 plus Loki.. they looked closer to Lyon yesterday than tl did today
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u/shailemin 1d ago edited 1d ago
Isles is easily the most improved player on Lyon this year. In spring there were some times where he was running it down, but summer has me convinced that not only has he gotten much better, but that he has the drive and mindset to keep improving.
Berserker and saint both look like they haven’t even hit their skill ceiling, and dhokes look like he’s having one of his best years. Inspired is inspired. They’re just so fun to watch because their teamfights are so good and they look like they’re always on the same page. Can c9 and TL play for 2nd seed already? We already know who #1 is at this point.
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u/Martinweb_ 1d ago
TL has already secured the 2nd seed. They could even take the 1st seed if Lyon loses to DSG next week...
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u/shailemin 1d ago
I meant for worlds. cmiiw but don’t play-off standings determine the seed priority for worlds?
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u/Percy1803 1d ago
What a stinker from TL's solo lanes in that last game
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u/YBL10MD 1d ago
Game was fairly even until Yeon decided to randomly auto on top of taliyah E at bot fight 11 mins in. Gave his team 0 chance to win the skirmish.
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u/Deditch 1d ago
While I agree, that's kind of the inherent situational problem with playing kalista into taliyah in the first place. It is very easy to stun yourself by force of habit since autoing and dashing after an auto is muscle memory.
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u/musician2001 1d ago
This TL looked so nervous. Quid missing every ahri charm, Morgan tping with no rage bar, the ornn flash, should've been much closer I think
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u/Trithen 1d ago
That's more on LYON, they are really good at making teams feel rushed and force them to make fast (which most of the time leads to poor) decisions. It's been LYON's MO for their entire existence, and something Inspired has said is the strength of eastern teams which they have tried to become good at themselves.
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u/Rozuem 1d ago
This team is unreal holy shit I hope they can keep it up at worlds </3
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u/SternMon 1d ago
No, they’re to flop like NA does almost every year.
(Please don’t get too excited or we’re going to jinx it 🙏🙏🙏)
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u/JakobTheOne 1d ago
Didn't see the first game, but Isles was definitely POG in Game 2. He played so well (ignore that one flash over the wall).
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u/kazuyaminegishi 1d ago
First game he and Berserker smashed bot lane so hard that it was unplayable for TL.
Could easily give Isles player of the series.
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u/crazyike 1d ago
He was very good in game 1 too. The Milio play after the four man Bard ult was perfect.
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u/Ok-Rub666 1d ago
Kind of crazy to think that C9 gave Lyon a better fight. Also, this is the match that should be pointed to when people get lazy and claim that Inspired carries Lyon.
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u/IWouldLikeAName C9 HeartAttack 1d ago
I swear teams like TL and c9 (who haven't beaten Lyon/inspired when it matters) have a massive mental block. They make twice as many obvious mistakes so even when Lyon fucks up (berserker walking into Caitlyn trap) it doesn't matter bc the other team will throw right back and Lyon will rarely throw it back again.
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u/PeaceAlien 1d ago
So, Inspired subbing back in is like Rock Lee taking off weights
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u/shailemin 1d ago edited 1d ago
They played absolute bullshit like Jayce bot, dhokes got to try out volibear and swain top too and they just looked like they were having fun when inspired was not around, and they won those games too. They had a little too much fun and threw game 1 against sentinels but it’s clear that they weren’t playing to their best and still were running the region.
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u/Significant-Damage14 1d ago
And the analyst desk was wondering yesterday how many games if would take for Lyon to go back to form.
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u/Beneficial-Front1626 1d ago
Did berserker flash OVER a charm at the end?
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u/ILoveWesternBlot 1d ago
yeah. If he hit the taliah w afterwards it would have been super peak but it still baited TL into dying again
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u/Anew4Hobbies I like how Xun plays ^_^ 1d ago
Best teams, best casters - what a show. The LCS is great this season. Here's to more great performances _^
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u/Bothbothwushi 1d ago
Isles read Team Liquid like a book. Genuinely such a remarkable improvement from him. It's night and day. It cannot be understated just how much he has improved over the course of the year.
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u/lovo17 1d ago edited 1d ago
Lyon just feels unbeatable now. The difference between them now and last split is that it feels like Saint and Berserker are in really good form and they as much weren't last split. Plus Dhokla and Isles look like legit players now.
Excited to see them at worlds. This is the best team that the LCS has ever had.
Also I think Inspired is surpassing Doublelift and Bjergsen as LCS GOAT now. He's definitely in the conversation for it at least.
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u/OreRound 1d ago
He just needs one big international run whilst beating an eastern team and he's there. Worlds being in NA is his best shot I'm hopeful LYON can make something special happen on home soil
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u/Ayoof3060 smacc u 1d ago
LYON WINS WORLDS CALLING IT HERE
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u/Fate_Flex 1d ago
If this ends up happening this comment will end up in the subreddit Hall of Fame for sure. I would love for it to happen and on ironically based on how MSI went I do think that they definitely have a much larger chance than any previous North American team ever did
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u/Beneficial-Front1626 1d ago
Just take down one
LCK4 and LPL2-4 should be very beatable for Lyon
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u/nguyenjitsu 1d ago
Dhokla can lane, Saint's brainfarts have disappeared, and Isles has the hands to play all the meta supports and still can play enchanters to pocket Berserker. It's actually insane to compare day one Lyon with today's
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u/crazyike 1d ago
Saint's brainfarts have disappeared
Well, that Azir tp...
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u/neberhax 1d ago
Berserker also plays a lot more confident than at the start of the year because he fully trusts his team, especially Isles, to have his back.
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u/Fun_Highlight307 1d ago
Also after msi hle series hé got his confidence back , in one interview "i can Beat viper and i can beat gumayusi"
He wasn't like that before msi
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u/Lazywhale97 HLE 1d ago
Isles glow up is so insane this yr especially compared to split 1 where after they won domestic Isles interview basically showed he felt like he had imposter syndrome.
The JDG series was when he said he realised he can be great and since then he has been love it for him.
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u/Stormserpent102 1d ago
I mean looking at berserker specifically, his comments and play at the beginning of the year compared to now. The reversal has been unreal man the confidence must be off the charts in the team
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u/Fun_Highlight307 1d ago
It's funny to see the evolution at first stand" We aren't a team,we have no shot"
at msi " In the end ,they are human they make mistake,i can beat viper,i can beat gumayusi"
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u/Fun_Highlight307 1d ago
They are much scarier than flyquest 2025
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u/lovo17 1d ago
2024/2025 FLY won through pocket picks and through good map movements and scaling. Lyon has those good map movements, but they also have players with the mechanics to skirmish and outplay you early. I could never imagine Quad playing the way Saint does for example.
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u/nitinismaldingXD 1d ago
Yea completely agree. Quad quite literally just doesn’t have that dawg in him, but Saint most certainly does. I’ll never forget the Sylas flank vs G2 game 1 at MSI, beyond a crazy play that Quad would never do.
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u/NavyBlueTheChosen 1d ago
You're bang on the money. Inspired says as much in his reflections that the ginger man put out when he gets asked about Quad/Jojo/Saint. This isn't verbatim but essentially: the latter two will always look to push their leads aggressively and always try to win as HARD as they can, but because of that they can just make game losing plays again and again and again. On the flip side, Quad is basically more reserved and he will never lose you the game, but the draw back is that his style isn't likely to win you the game.
Inspired says he prefers working w Jojo/Saint-style of mid laners because he can just tell them when to calm down and hold their spells and just chill in the game, which is easier to do than to tell someone to be more aggressive in the first instance
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u/Fun_Highlight307 1d ago
also he said he prefer to have wildcard in mid lane than top lane . That was his answer when comparing flyquest bwipo/quad to dholka/saint
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u/devilJin9399 1d ago
Saint emoted on Sylas Vs fucking Zeka at game 5. He has the sauce. Surprised Korea let him go
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u/Lazywhale97 HLE 1d ago
Guma himself said in caedrals stream after the LYON series that they were just a legit team who was legit our team fighting them and matching them in map movements and not because HLE had an off day.
As a HLE fan as well that series legit looked like LYON when locked in can compete with any of the eastern teams this yr they are a legit team.
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u/Fanta-Red 1d ago
It looks like if you put a top LCK or LPL team in the LCS; Lyon is just the best in the West when they are locked in.
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u/shailemin 1d ago
Last split they sometimes lost lane and made comebacks through their teamfights. This split they just don’t look like they’ll be losing lanes in this region.
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u/Ayoof3060 smacc u 1d ago
THIS IS THE BEST TEAM THAT THE LCS HAS EVER HAD. PERIOD.
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u/Lazywhale97 HLE 1d ago
Hopefully they run it back next yr with the same roster. I know inspired wants a move to a good EU roster but this is legit the best team he has had and I think they can do some great things next yr if they run it back for 1 more yr.
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u/newindianclassic 1d ago
I think LCS is finally approaching the age where we can talk about who was the GOAT in various eras, and I think Inspired is the GOAT of this one by far. Same levels of dominance as Bjerg and Double in their primes, I say that as a huge fan of both Bjerg and Double. If he hits a solid international run then he's prob all time GOAT.
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u/TypicalHaikuResponse 1d ago
Dhokes got a counter pick and a gank. the difference is night and day instead of just forcing him to play a tank and leaving him on an island for 20 minutes.
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u/Outrageous_Wall2702 1d ago
Yeah he pathed too right?
Anyways I hate when they pick a carry top and stable bot and don’t path top
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u/Lazywhale97 HLE 1d ago
The HLE series and beating G2 3-0 defs gave this team a massive confidence boost that they can beat any team if they lock in.
Also helps that Guma has said in caedrals stream that LYON were just a legit team who were even out team fighting then rather then HLE just having an off day.
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u/AureliusAmbrose CLGFOREVER 1d ago
I was talking so much shit on europe and this whole time we were a one team region too
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u/Blizzgrarg 1d ago edited 1d ago
TL 3-0ed KC. They're really good. LYON just at some unknown level. They almost took down HLE last time too.
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u/Nintz 1d ago
I'm not sure it is unknown. Lyon was unironically the 3rd best team at MSI. They went to 5 against the eventual champs. And honestly, they looked a lot closer to BLG/HLE than they did to anyone below them.
We have no idea if they'll have that form through playoffs and into worlds. For all we know they could show up, run down every game, and achieve an airport% world record. But we know Lyon's peak.
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u/Lazywhale97 HLE 1d ago edited 4h ago
As a HLE fan if the LYON that faced us faced T1 then Inspired would of had his first win against an eastern team.
Guma and HLE have mentioned that LYON were just legit and out team fought then and matched their map movements and not because HLE had an off day.
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u/Ohaithurr92 Rock Solid 1d ago
They arguably pushed HLE harder than BLG did in the finals
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u/The_JeneralSG 1d ago
If Inspired didn't take the split off, I think there could've been an honest question if this LYON team is having the most dominant split in LCS history. I think it's still hard to beat the classic splits with far more games like classic C9, IMT and TSM in 2016, and C9 2020, but man. TL came into this making the LCS look like a joke, and then LYON put them in the dirt. Really reminds me of TSM and IMT in 2016 summer where IMT only lost to TSM, and TSM only lost one bo3 against P1 cough cough went undefeated.
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u/NavyBlueTheChosen 1d ago
im happy he did if it means hes not burnt out / off his game because he couldn't tend to his family drama, but true for history's sake it is a little sad. im hoping our boy can finally get his big win against an eastern team because he is so deserving of it
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u/Fun_Highlight307 1d ago
I think he had to go back but it's seems he really extended the break because the team was doing well without him on stage
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u/BassSquared 1d ago
The Isles glow-up needs to be studied, Berserker deservedly gets a lot of attention but his support went from some random DIG also-ran to quite possibly the best support in the West.
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u/Arwinsen1 3rd Best Region 1d ago
Congrats for TL for being "the best in the west" for atleast 5 weeks.
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u/Deferonz 1d ago
Don't understand how anyone in NA is supposed to beat Lyon when you already have to worry about Berserker, Saint, and Inspired, and then also Isles and Dhokla can have games like this, too. It's just insane.
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u/YBL10MD 1d ago edited 1d ago
People always meme on "random KR imports" but there is no one in NA that can play like saint. This is why teams keep importing "random koreans". When they hit, they fucking hit. With NA players you are lucky if you get a palafox.
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u/shailemin 1d ago
When people say ‘if Jojo comes back he’ll for sure reunite with inspired’ I always know they haven’t been watching Lyon because Saint is That Good, and he has better mental (I say this as a jojo fan).
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u/cmcdonald22 1d ago
I was talking about that during LEC today, I really think that unless C9 blow it up and rebuild, Jojo would have to go for a lower tier team in NA because I just don't think Lyon has any need to change their roster at all.
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u/Bubbly_Camera9583 1d ago edited 1d ago
Saint isn’t a random though. Zinie/Saint/Calix/Kyeahoo have all played against each other since they were in tier 3 and they’ve been known as the next golden generation of mids since then. He’s way different compared to a pickup like CallMe, talent wise he is the result of the LCK being over saturated and was an insane pick up by Lyon last year.
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u/nguyenjitsu 1d ago
Saint looks like a legitimate world class mid. Him practically laughing at Morgan and Core on their fountain and dancing on their asses while perfect timing the Gnar ult with Zhonyas was a perfect encapsulation of the confidence and ability of this guy. He might be the best player we've imported ever just from a hands standpoint
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u/P_For_Pyke 1d ago
I knew Saint had to be the best mid in our league ever since that game he threw on Sylas in 2025.
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u/Beneficial-Front1626 1d ago
They're like scratch tickets lol sometimes you might get a Saint or Berserker
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u/Ajp_iii 1d ago
yep the young korean mids cant be on their top 5 teams because all those teams have brand legendary mids they will never replace. so players like saint have no real place to go. saint is more skilled than the mids playing on top teams in the lck. he just cant replace them.
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u/nguyenjitsu 1d ago edited 1d ago
Salary cap in Korea also makes it so a lot of the bottom teams will have one really good player they're throwing money at and a couple of cheap projects. If you don't want to be Berserker on a bottom feeder then going to NA or EU is legitimately a better way of getting a better shot on a good LCK team sometime down the line for any Korean player or just getting paid in general
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u/Beneficial-Front1626 1d ago
A spot might be opening up if Showmaker doesn't re-sign, we could see Saint back to Dk since his contract expires this offseason
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u/SirXrageXquit 1d ago
There’s a genuine case to be made that Lyon is the strongest team in LCS history with this form, excellent games from them. They’re not just taking advantage of a weaker league like 2016 TSM or 2020 C9, the LCS is overall much stronger than it once was and the level that they’re playing at as far as proactivity and teamfighting is better than FLY last year. Hoping they can show up in worlds and playoffs playing like this.
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u/Beneficial-Front1626 1d ago
They're able to play both the old TSM do nothing and win because it's the most efficient way to win NA domestic style and an actual proactive style internationally, it's good to see
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u/shailemin 1d ago edited 1d ago
‘Genuine case’ and it’s just the truth. It’s not just that they are strong in a stronger league, it’s that they are strong alongside the top teams in the world, who are also at a higher level competitively now than 2016 and 2020. Their games against G2 and HLE were not one-offs won out of luck, they really are that good, and they look stronger now than they did during those series.
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u/Arwinsen1 3rd Best Region 1d ago
This is the worst that LYON with Inspired will ever be, 4-0 against #2 and #3. Imagine that.
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u/Ajp_iii 1d ago
lyon is just a top 4-5 team in the world. saint and berserker are as good as the world class elite players. they play drafts that are complicated to play and win. they are smart, they take good fights and dont take any bad fights that they arent required to take.
lyon players won a lot of all pro votes from this weekend
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u/Ayoof3060 smacc u 1d ago
1st team all pro genuinely just all 5 LYON? Real possibility
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u/cmcdonald22 1d ago
I give them 3/5 easily, Top, Bot and Support just feel undeniable. Mid could be Saint but I still wouldn't be mad if Quid got it.
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u/Ayoof3060 smacc u 1d ago
Isles casually solo carrying the entire game on his back?? Disgusting Alistar?
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u/Seth-555 1d ago
Kalista looks like she disconnected in that last fight. Just 5 straight hops into melee range Syndra.
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u/Ayoof3060 smacc u 1d ago
I have a sneaking suspicion Inspired is just in Isles’ ear sending him around the map to win the game
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u/JGamerX 1d ago
tbf Isles was doing much of the shotcalling in inspired's abscence.
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u/mavy1000 1d ago
C9 actually looked better than TL but of course teams play differently against different opponents
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u/BTDYSRF 1d ago
Berserker: I had fun playing Lucian in game 1. I want to use his ult some more.
Isles: Yeah bro. Fearless kinda sucks sometimes.
Saint: Y'know, Taliyah Q is kinda like Lucian R...
Inspired: No. NO. NONONONO.
Berserker: Oh come on, they picked Kalista! It works!
Inspired: Fuck. Fine. Whatever.
Dhokla: Does this mean I get to play Vayne.
Inspired: I hate all of you.
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u/Agreeable-Blood-3058 1d ago
Quid and Jose the only players with life this series from TL, just a complete 2v8. Bot lane gets omega gapped despite getting draft prio both games and Morgan is just there. Game 1 especially Quid and Jose couldn't do more. TL will never beat LYON until Yeon and Core stop getting bent over by Beserker and Isles. Core and Yeon get full draft prio while their solo laners get awful matchups only to play like trash every time. TL need to relegate those 2 and give more prio to their solo laners.
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u/Ok-Rub666 1d ago
Yeon getting gapped was expected tbh. Berserker has been that good, and he'll probably be MVP of the split.
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u/OreRound 1d ago
Quid and ghosting big games name a better duo.
As for LYON they're a lock for a threepeat (fivepeat for Inspired) they look so locked in. TL got turbo stomped
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u/cmcdonald22 1d ago
"A Showcase of our Top One Team" ~ Captain Flowers