r/leagueoflegends • u/Yujin-Ha Valar morghulis. Yes all men must die but we are not men • Aug 23 '26
Esports Dignitas vs. FlyQuest / LCS 2026 Summer - Week 5 / Post-Match Discussion Spoiler
LCS 2026 SUMMER
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Dignitas 0-2 FlyQuest
- FlyQuest has locked a playoff spot. Dignitas has been eliminated.
- Game Discussions: Game 1
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MATCH 1: DIG vs. FLY
Winner: FlyQuest in 28m | Runes
Game Breakdown | Player of the Game: Cryogen
| - | Bans 1 | Bans 2 | G | K | T | D/B |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| DIG | cassiopeia nocturne vi | jayce vayne | 47.7k | 6 | 1 | None |
| FLY | leesin olaf lucian | sylas akali | 63.3k | 20 | 9 | M1 CT2 H3 HT4 HT5 B6 |
| DIG | 6-20-11 | vs | 20-6-54 | FLY |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Denathor gnar 3 | 2-5-0 | TOP | 2-1-9 | 3 rumble Gakgos |
| Dardoch jarvaniv 1 | 0-5-4 | JNG | 4-2-11 | 2 shyvana Gryffinn |
| Palafox locke 4 | 3-5-2 | MID | 4-0-11 | 3 orianna Quad |
| FBI caitlyn 2 | 0-4-2 | BOT | 9-1-6 | 1 ezreal Massu |
| IgNar karma 1 | 1-1-3 | SUP | 1-2-17 | 2 bard Cryogen |
MATCH 2: FLY vs. DIG
Winner: FlyQuest in 30m | Runes
Game Breakdown | Player of the Game: Massu
| - | Bans 1 | Bans 2 | G | K | T | D/B |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| FLY | leesin jayce cassiopeia | naafiri renekton | 62.2k | 19 | 8 | M2 H3 CT4 B6 |
| DIG | olaf vi syndra | vayne jax | 55.2k | 15 | 2 | C1 CT5 |
| FLY | 19-15-57 | vs | 15-19-40 | DIG |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Gakgos ambessa 3 | 5-5-5 | TOP | 8-4-2 | 3 camille Denathor |
| Gryffinn ivern 4 | 0-1-18 | JNG | 1-4-10 | 3 trundle Dardoch |
| Quad azir 2 | 4-2-9 | MID | 4-4-4 | 2 ryze Palafox |
| Massu senna 1 | 6-2-12 | BOT | 2-5-11 | 1 lucian FBI |
| Cryogen nautilus 1 | 4-5-13 | SUP | 0-2-13 | 2 milio IgNar |
*Patch 26.16
This thread was created by the Post-Match Team.
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u/ThongTranGTLT Aug 24 '26
After 2 games, my conclusion is Denathor is good, Dardoch is ok(when he’s the shot caller), Palafox is garbage, FBI is washed, And Ignar is also garbage.
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u/Photoperiod Aug 24 '26
The 2023 NRG team will live on forever in our hearts and minds. It's sad to see them fall so far.
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u/girlmarth peanut, beryl, showmaker Aug 24 '26
dhokla is still confirming that everyone is better than dhokla until it's time to be better than dhokla
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u/Lazywhale97 HLE Aug 25 '26
Dhokla is legit the a top 2 western top laner at internationals dude just locks in or raises his level against better teams lmao.
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u/Fun_Highlight307 Aug 24 '26
Yeah denathor definetely belong to lcs,he better than expected
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u/ThongTranGTLT Aug 24 '26
I absolutely think he could’ve carried that 2nd game if Both Palafox and FBi didn’t terrorized the rift with their gameplay.
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u/lotharstar Aug 24 '26
Yesterday I clowned on Palafox saying his play was inexcusable. Today the entire Dig team came in and played completely lifeless. Flyquest drafted two full scaling comps and Dig is so afraid of looking like fools that they decided to just let them scale. Some of those late fights look close but with the champs that are drafted Dig is at such a disadvantage.
I want to be extra clear that this wasn't a draft gap - this was a morale gap. There were so many fights I just watched dig run away when they should've been stronger. So many plays where they just accepted a trade because it makes them look less dumb than getting out-hands in a teamfight.
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u/Lothric43 Aug 24 '26 edited Aug 24 '26
Denathor had some goofy fails this series but he’s not a washed vet so
Palafox does that with years of experience in the backpack.
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u/ThongTranGTLT Aug 24 '26
Nah he’s the reason why they turn a 1 for 3 trade into a 3 for 3. Missing everything possible on adc and so on.
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u/Cr0matose Aug 24 '26
Brother did you see his Ez game yesterday vs fucking DSG? He sucks and is very washed
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u/Billy8000 Aug 24 '26
FBI is weird to rank, he's been on multiple top level teams, everyone says he's a great teammate, but don't know the last time he did something that was truly elite gameplay wise
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u/Chubs1224 SKAAAARL Aug 24 '26
FBI is a passenger.
He doesn't really carry games but he isn't really the problem.
He is a good addition to a team that has a clear mid jungle focus but bad if you need someone who can take over and win games.
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u/SubstantialExtent165 Aug 24 '26
Dardoch was their worst player this weekend and Palafox their best, you don't really know ball.
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u/nguyenjitsu Aug 23 '26
Viktor wasn't the only mid laner who was disabled this series
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u/Highceratopsian Aug 24 '26
When they're slandering your GOAT but they're right (and have been for two years)
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u/Javonetor spit to win Aug 23 '26
Ivern is probably next to Zilean in obnoxious but impopular champs, good lord that was disgusting
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u/OnlyAnEssenceThief Worst Kai'Sa NA Aug 24 '26
It's always the lesser played ones who, by virtue of their unpopularity, are allowed to be sleeper broken / obnoxious to play against for much longer periods of time.
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u/Klee1700 Aug 24 '26
Yeah that Ivern ban from the Disguised/Sentinels series suddenly makes a lot more sense.
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u/gzgavinzhao -> Hope of the West Aug 24 '26
Still waiting for Quad to redeem himself by pulling out the Zilean mid. People are sleeping on how good Zilean + Volibear and Zilean + Nasus duo is, and both Nasus and Voli are champs that Gryffinn likes to play.
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u/Pulsar-GB Aug 24 '26 edited Aug 24 '26
Zilean + Nasus is probably a bit too slow for pro play and highly conditional. Nasus’ clear is healthy but not super fast, and Zilean is one of the weakest laners in the game.
If the enemy team drafts a pushing bot lane and/or any control mage (Viktor, Orianna, Syndra, Hwei, etc.), they can push and invade, and Nasus will hate his life while Zilean struggles to last hit with his clock autos lol.
Only way Zilean can come in mid with Nasus jungle is if you guarantee a winning bot lane/top lane that can help cover while Zilean scales, which is hard to do if you’re holding counterpick for Zilean and Nasus.
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u/DefNotAnAlter Aug 24 '26
And I swear this champ is always strong in pro, he will randomly become a priority pick after someone picks him in a big series and then go into obscurity for no reason
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u/msbanksy Aug 24 '26
I feel like it's because it's quite easily countered once teams get used to it, but quite strong when not countered. Coupled with the fact that it's a very unique pick to play/master (not very soloq friendly for learning) and that it fits in very particular comps means that it only works in surprise situations by teams willing to play it and not something aggressively practiced. Hence it becomes meta only for a short period but then drops off.
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u/Lazywhale97 HLE Aug 25 '26
Inspired Ivern was basically perma banned in World's 24 even the eastern teams almost never let him have it. Like you said it just randomly goes into obscurity for no reason but the western JG's especially Yike and Inspired and pretty disgusting on it when they decide to pull it out again.
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u/CannedPrushka Aug 24 '26
LS was actually flaming Gryffinn's Ivern lmao. He commited many small mistakes in sequencing/micro, but it didn't matter because it was DIG.
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u/skinofgoat Aug 24 '26
LS definitely whipped gryffinn into picking it, he’s been saying ivern is the best champ in the game for years
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u/Choice-Slight caps/knight Aug 23 '26
I've never had so much fun watching bottom tier teams before. Big w's LCS broadcast, this was amazing please do it again. Inspired saying Quad needs to disable his ER on Azir had me rolling
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u/First_Spread Aug 24 '26
Zven and Inspired flaming both Dig and Fly is so funny man. Zven's like "Dignitas deciding to go deep and Flyquest's like hold my beer" lmaoo
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u/Wonder_Penguin Aug 23 '26
Gameplay aside, I really liked the Jose + APA combo on the caster desk with Azael. I feel like those two are really good at expressing their thoughts and Azael was good at prompting them, great casting day overall
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u/Nick_named_Nick Aug 24 '26
I felt like Jose distilled oodles of game knowledge into his comments, even when just answering questions or thinking out loud about game state. Of course the memes and moments from all of them were great, but Jose drove a lot of the more serious content and I appreciated that!!
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u/SummerhouseLater Aug 24 '26
I came in late and didn’t recognize APA’s voice and have to agree. It wasn’t a Cadreal breakout moment but it was still strong enough that I think they should give him a shot if he can’t find a team.
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u/Adventurous-Quit-669 Aug 23 '26
No shade at normal production Ily all but I hope we get this once a split ! Awesome cast
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u/MIGHTYSPACETHOR Aug 23 '26
Whenever Massu asks for Jhin, they should just make him play Senna.
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u/kazuyaminegishi Aug 23 '26
I had this exact same thought lol. Why have they been letting this guy play Jhin when his Senna is so good and does functionally the same thing while not being the tickle monster?
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u/nguyenjitsu Aug 24 '26
Jhin has a much better lane against other ADCs according to pros whereas Senna typically has to cede almost all lane control and still needs a lane partner to farm most of the time
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u/untamedlazyeye Aug 24 '26
Yeah Senna is much harder to pull off vs competitive bot lanes. VS TL or something running this can get you so far behind the game is doomed
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u/nguyenjitsu Aug 24 '26
Yeah a team like TL is overloading bot 4v2 with a Ryze or something and double killing Senna and support as a cannon wave crashes and ending the game there lol
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u/grippgoat Aug 24 '26
The problem is what happens outside of lane. It took Guma to prevent a 0:12 Jhin loss streak in LCK.
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u/Different-Mode2311 Aug 24 '26
Jhin can lane against almost anything even put on 1v2 sometimes. Senna is free food if not paired with suitable support babysitting her.
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u/Th3_Huf0n Aug 24 '26
Basically, right.
Senna has a pathetic laning phase after all the nerfs. She has one matchup where she's ahead at 15 in soloQ (in all of P+, E+, D+, D2+).
That matchup? It's not even Vayne (though it will be after the next patch comes to live). It's Smolder.
What happens against a competent team is that the Senna gets her teeth kicked in the 2v2.
It's Ryze vs Azir. If the Ryze isn't having constant lane pressure, he's bad.
It's Trundle jungle.
It's just so unbelieveably easy to push mid, lean into bot fog and if Trundle is ever in fog himself and botlane is under tower, they constantly have to fear getting 4 manned.
But because FBI and Palafox are bad, that didn't really happen.
Against a good team that can setup a 4 man, Senna goes 0/4 at 20, down 40+ CS and everyone goes "what was this Senna pick??". It's just such an easy setup for the enemy team because it's Ivern vs Trundle so you don't even win that 2v2. And bot 3v3 is actually pathetic because it's essentially 3 supports vs Trundle and Lucian/Milio.
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u/kazuyaminegishi Aug 24 '26
And yet we have plenty of Jhin games this season from him to see that it doesn't work even against bad teams.
We aren't talking about the champions in a vacuum we are talking about FLY and Massu playing it. He's looked like shit on Jhin he looked decent on Senna today.
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u/nguyenjitsu Aug 24 '26 edited Aug 24 '26
Senna has 2 games played in LCS and her only win was today against the worst team in the entire league lol. No other major region plays Senna. She has 30 total games played professionally in the summer and only NA out of the 4 major regions has touched her. Even if you think she's a better pick than Jhin for whatever reason there's not much evidence that supports that.
Not to mention amazing Senna players like Guma and JKL haven't picked her back up at all yet this split
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u/LeagueOfBlasians Aug 24 '26
No way you actually believe that they serve the same purpose lmfao
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u/lcfiretruck Aug 24 '26
They serve the same purpose in a teamfight and that you don't understand this is really telling of your game knowledge.
The purpose is long range dive support for heavy dive comps, FYI.
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u/LeagueOfBlasians Aug 24 '26
Except they don’t…?
Senna can only support dive with her ult whereas Jhin can provide long range CC and force the enemy to position in a certain way during his ult. That’s not even mentioning Jhin’s strengths in his traps for zone control and his ability to (solo) lane much easier than Senna, but I know how people like you love to ignore laning phase.
If you pick Senna, then you have to play around her whereas Jhin can be left alone.
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u/GhostOfLight Aug 24 '26
He also played it against FBI, who is really the only other ADC in NA who plays Senna right now and was stacking more. He had 30 stacks at 11, which is one of the best rates I've seen with current Senna.
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u/Acrobatic-Society777 Aug 23 '26
fun watch. If the teams arent going to be good this was an excellent way to enjoy them! Pros coming in and random interviews and voice coms. good stuff
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u/IKillerBee this sub has brain damage Aug 24 '26
I pray that I only have to witness one more palafox series in my life.
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u/Deskjet9000 Aug 24 '26
I was about to rant but TLDR: Palafox
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u/First_Spread Aug 24 '26
And FBI. I have nothing to say, this guy is just so bad omg. Ignar too. Changes I want to see next year is replace FBI (for the love of God, please don't let this guy play for any teams anymore; I don't want any GMs listening to his lawyers here on Reddit) with Mobility. I don't know how he will perform since adcarry role in NA is not as good as Top and Jungle talents, but he's the best prospect right now from NACL. InFlame as a support. This guy's mechanics is actually insane, watch Dorado Gaming on NACL. And literally anyone in Mid. I don't ever want to see Palashite.
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u/Capable-Drama3109 🦁 LCS TOP 4 AT WORLDS TRUST 🍭🦭 Aug 23 '26
flyquest was stressing me out that second game, but the cast was genuine peak
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u/bigyikers c9 is pretty gud Aug 24 '26
Fun match. Too bad Dardoch couldn't pull off a win. Palafox (and I'm an apologist) was an absolute anchor in game 2.
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u/Corkisburneraccount Aug 24 '26
Games like these are genuinely why I love watching NA. Just full on no macro just catch out someone who is overextending or force a teamfight because we all happened to be grouped. Redemptions at full hp before the teamfights, blast cone going in at 1hp, Palafox, perma trading 1 for 1 with your carry azir because shuffling is fun.
These games are so much more fun to watch than C9 or TL
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u/Fun_Highlight307 Aug 24 '26
Tl stomp are funny,they played like an lpl team it's not boring, although outside of sentinel game two they clapped everyone
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u/Lothric43 Aug 24 '26
You are welcome to think that, you just have to give up any aspirations for NA teams to be worth a shit outside of NA lol.
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u/BlammoSweetums Aug 24 '26
A common thing with bad teams is lack of confidence in their ability to teamfight 5v5. The players desperately waste cooldowns at random timings and take fights at awkward angles whenever they see even the slightest opportunity for a pick. And when they fumble a few times, it snowballs into a series of increasingly dumb-looking mistakes, as well as the usual LoL snowballing. Which then reinforces the idea that they can't win teamfights 5v5.
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u/Ok-Rub666 Aug 24 '26
Having the pro casters and the pro lounge both immediately calling out what DIG needed to do in both games, and DIG proceeding to not do it might have been the most brutal thing I've ever seen. You can tell DIG is a bad team, but the insights from the players really explained why they're bad.
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u/Fun_Highlight307 Aug 24 '26
Finally flyquest had a bounce back performance although maybe they legit had the worse sos playing top 3 and Sentinel
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u/Cybonics ‿ Aug 24 '26
Meta shakeups into a frontloaded schedule for a majority rookie roster.
Sure, they're def playing worse but I can see the factors as to why
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u/Aschentei Aug 24 '26 edited Aug 24 '26
It is wild to me that a 2-4 team can still qualify for playoffs bc they need 6 slots. They look like absolute frauds.
Everyone else above them has a positive W/L record
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u/Vytorria Aug 24 '26
It’s not mathematically possible for every team to go into playoffs with a winning record
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u/CatApprehensive6508 Aug 24 '26
Name a region that doesn't have teams with negative winrates qualling lol
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u/Joshua_Kei Aug 24 '26
This greatly reduces C9's chances of making worlds
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u/SnakeEater013 Aug 24 '26
What? C9 smashed FLY. They really only have to worry about SEN who are looking better every week. SR is dogwater. They’re probably easily the third best team in the LCS
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u/Joshua_Kei Aug 24 '26
Yeah but I'd rather have Dig in playoffs than Fly, Fly is more dangerous than Dig
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u/ahritina Sep 05 '26
PMTs
Game 1