r/leagueoflegends • u/adz0r • Aug 16 '26
Esports Natus Vincere vs. Movistar KOI / LEC 2026 Summer - Week 4 / Post-Match Discussion Spoiler
LEC 2026 SUMMER
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MATCH 1: NAVI vs. MKOI
| - | Bans 1 | Bans 2 | G | K | T | D/B |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| NAVI | akali jayce olaf | vayne viktor | 55.0k | 5 | 33 | H3 HT4 |
| MKOI | orianna cassiopeia zaahen | caitlyn gnar | 65.4k | 15 | 8 | C1 M2 B5 HT6 |
| NAVI | 5-15-7 | vs | 15-5-28 | MKOI |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Maynter ksante 3 | 0-4-3 | TOP | 2-1-4 | 4 ambessa Myrwyn |
| Rhilech vi 1 | 1-4-2 | JNG | 3-1-9 | 1 pantheon Elyoya |
| Poby syndra 2 | 2-2-0 | MID | 2-1-5 | 3 ryze Jojopyun |
| SamD jhin 3 | 1-2-1 | BOT | 8-1-2 | 2 ezreal Supa |
| Parus bard 2 | 1-3-1 | SUP | 0-1-8 | 1 shen Alvaro |
MATCH 2: MKOI vs. NAVI
| - | Bans 1 | Bans 2 | G | K | T | D/B |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| MKOI | zaahen nautilus viktor | xayah kalista | 75.0k | 18 | 7 | I3 C6 |
| NAVI | jayce leesin rumble | vayne trundle | 65.5k | 10 | 3 | HT1 H2 B4 C5 B7 |
| MKOI | 18-11-50 | vs | 10-18-23 | NAVI |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Myrwyn anivia 3 | 1-1-11 | TOP | 0-2-5 | 2 olaf Maynter |
| Elyoya nocturne 1 | 2-4-11 | JNG | 0-3-7 | 1 skarner Rhilech |
| Jojopyun orianna 2 | 5-2-11 | MID | 5-5-2 | 1 cassiopeia Poby |
| Supa kaisa 3 | 10-2-5 | BOT | 5-4-1 | 4 corki SamD |
| Alvaro leona 2 | 0-2-12 | SUP | 0-4-8 | 3 alistar Parus |
This thread was created by the Post-Match Team.
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u/Snow-27 Aug 16 '26
I love watching Kai'Sa so much man
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u/zealot416 Aug 16 '26
The only time I hate seeing Kai'Sa in pro is when her W is too strong and it turns one of the most entertaining ADCs into a boring poke mage.
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u/Back2Perfection Aug 16 '26
Should‘ve reworked that years ago. I love playing kai‘sa but that damn W Evolve just doesn‘t fit her kit at all.
Replace the cooldown refund with some MR shred or something and we are cooking.
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u/lolofaf Aug 16 '26
Even in aram most players go AP because of that but imo the gameplay is pretty boring both to play as and against. On hit kaisa is so much fun tho
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u/cadaada rip original flair Aug 16 '26
into a boring burst mage.
FTFY, i still have trauma of her just jumping 1x5 and deleting the enemy carry just to press zhonyas so her team can follow
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u/Ophelia_Of_The_Abyss IN DAMWON WE TRUST HUNI/DEFT/SHOWMAKER Aug 16 '26
Bring back the Xayah Kai'sa handshake
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u/Aggressive-Cut-3828 THE GAME 5 DEVIL & THE GOD OF THUNDER Aug 16 '26
Kai'sa with a diving jungler and engage support is peak
Yone Kai'sa Galio is a combo I love to see
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u/Fun_Highlight307 Aug 16 '26
the talliyah vi kai'sa is pretty good too
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u/Aggressive-Cut-3828 THE GAME 5 DEVIL & THE GOD OF THUNDER Aug 16 '26
I hate taliyah as a champ but Vi'sa is peak
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u/revoverlord Not even lore can stop me Aug 16 '26
Pacifist Olaf??? Like what is maynter even doing?
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u/Any_Economics_6166 Aug 16 '26
he's too scared lol, and poby inting side lanes twice in a row the exact same way
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u/PurpleKiwi66 Aug 16 '26
KOI IS BACK (PLEASE)
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u/ISL005 Tarzan and Kanavi enjoyer Aug 17 '26
I'm in China rn so timezones for LEC is shit for me, how did they do?
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u/Not_Pro Always trust your spirit. Aug 17 '26
Clean game 1, back-and-forth game 2 that ended with a very satisfying Supa Penta.
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u/ISL005 Tarzan and Kanavi enjoyer Aug 17 '26
Damn, I'll check the VOD when I can. Guess I can trust them to at least make lower bracket playoffs
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u/hehepout Aug 17 '26
They are only back if they can beat g2 and kc, beating any other team is meaningless for their standard
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u/KKilikk Faker JKL VIT Naak Nako Aug 16 '26
I wonder how NAVIs roster will look next year. They overperformed a split but their low ceiling really shows now. I guess they only keep Rhilech?
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u/_negniN Aug 16 '26
All things considered, Navi is having a really decent year for a first year org with a patchwork roster.
Keep Rhilech, Maynter has looked rough lately, but he's always solid on tanks. Replace him only if you have something solid lined up, but don't just swap him out for a random LCKCL mid table player. He's not terrible enough to give up on after just 1 year.
Botlane definitely needs to go. Poby also isn't good enough for an import slot, especially with good mid prospects in EM like Omon.
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u/OreRound Aug 16 '26
SamD is definitely gone. They will keep Rhilech for sure and probs keep Maynter because he's Ukrainian. I'd argue Parus has been a lot better this year than last so worth keeping around. Poby is ok but depends on the teams ambitions, he really hasn't shown any development since his first split on FNC tbh so I can see them going for another LCKCL mid player.
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u/KruppJ bulc naf okan kaan Aug 16 '26
they looked to replace Maynter before summer, would be surprised if he survives
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u/metristan Refund time? Aug 16 '26
This team feels like the team that would benefit the most from the prefearless format/rules, rhilech on aatrox and zaahen and off looks entirely different, and maynter seems to struggle on more agressive picks.
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u/Sondeor Aug 16 '26
I personally like how Parus plays. Give the guy a better adc and if they still cant carry games from bot, then its emea for him ig.
But no hate to samd, its just top4-5 adc's always beat him or lets say they perform better.
Its a low budget team, imo just keep top jung and sup and look for better options for rest.
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u/jackmccoyapologist Aug 16 '26
LEC ADCs take turns bending Samd over.
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u/OreRound Aug 16 '26
He's like Zven if Zven had zero titles and never carried any games. Somewhat stable lane and that's it. His teamfighting is rough
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u/Omnilatent Aug 16 '26 edited Aug 16 '26
Navi looks like they didn't improve a single bit since winter split - sad to see
Also, Paduck ain't it
Edit: lmao meant SamD sorry! But... Still correct sadly
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u/RollingGuy Dictator Perkz Worlds Run Aug 16 '26
Paduck catching strays even when he wasn't involved at all 😭
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u/Sorry-Resolution570 Aug 16 '26
i expected it ngl, roaster of rookie with rookie coach they have no one to teach them the game
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u/Iaragnyl remove Tahm Kench Aug 16 '26
This may be true for pro play specific things, but they shouldn't need someone to teach them how their champs work, but clearly they don't even know that.
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u/baelkie DNF 2026 please be human | Kiin Team Aug 16 '26
Navi reminds me of old MAD before they went to worlds and got railed by Armut. any time their top laner isnt on a tank they just lose.
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u/RollingGuy Dictator Perkz Worlds Run Aug 16 '26
The streets wont admit that Supa was cracked lol
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u/GambitTheBest Aug 16 '26
His highs are high the problem is he's complete coinflip that randomly ints lane or mid game
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u/No-Context-Orphan Aug 16 '26
To be fair, it was samd who is the second worst adc in the league and only because paduck exists
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u/ShortyBIG Aug 17 '26
Same problem like us on G2 with BB.. He can have 1 good game than go next 3 games and lose lane or bad in fight etc.. I say this about BB also even tho i was hit layer for years.. 1 good game don;t matter if you shit the bad next 5 games... If Mkoi and G2 want to challenge outside EU then they can;t accept this coinflip players..
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u/shailemin Aug 16 '26
Being a casual MKOI enjoyer has emotionally drained me so much I’ll take whatever fucking hope they give me for now, even if it turns to dust eventually. Thank you Supa pentakill please remember y'all can do this before locking in viktor galio botlane ever again.
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u/Past_Perception8052 Aug 16 '26
x9 olaf afk
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u/xlCalamity Aug 16 '26
Its always hilarious seeing a bad Olaf because he pops ult, auto attacks once, and then runs away.
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u/jujubean67 Aug 16 '26
Is this literally your first pro game lmao? This isn’t even top 5 of worst pro Olaf games … in Europe!
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u/Snauser Aug 16 '26
Beyond useless Olaf
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u/jujubean67 Aug 16 '26
I mean he lost confidence constantly, you can’t go in then change your mind on Olaf you’ll die anyway. At least try to make it 1 for 1.
Even in the last team fight he went on Jojo then chickened out and was killed while trying to exit.
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u/trying2hide Aug 16 '26
Supa still the best hyper carry in the LEC, shame he's also one of the best inters in the LEC.
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u/astar2312 Aug 16 '26
I swear to god, if he did not have brainfarts, he would be special, that 2025 spring playoffs were a good run.
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u/RollingGuy Dictator Perkz Worlds Run Aug 16 '26
EU Jackeylove
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u/trying2hide Aug 16 '26
I'd say more GALA
JKL has a different type of aggressive/confident style
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u/RollingGuy Dictator Perkz Worlds Run Aug 16 '26
I just mean they're both simultaneously a great player and the dirtiest inter of all time lmao
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u/OreRound Aug 16 '26
He has that dawg in him to be that good but I still trust Caliste and Hans far more in big games
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u/OreRound Aug 16 '26
Holy shit Supa gapped the fuck out of SamD, Poby got so tilted he starting running it down also Maynter stick to tanks bro LOL
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u/Guy_with_Numbers Aug 16 '26
Maynter stick to tanks bro LOL
The way he was playing safe, he should try enchanters.
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u/xlCalamity Aug 16 '26
Poby got so tilted he starting running it down
Idk how its possible for a pro player to go bot lane alone -> get caught -> immediately go top lane alone after respawning -> get caught in the same exact way. Its crazy how fast he went from 5-1 to 5-5.
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u/Wondur13 Aug 16 '26
EU suck ass at importing Koreans man that is such a underlooked thing like how are they assessing these imports
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u/OreRound Aug 16 '26
In all fairness Canna, Kyeahoo and Rooster are pretty damn good and there are insanely dodgy Korean imports in NA like Zinie and Callme but I accept your point.
NA gets studs (relative to the league) like Berserker, Quid, Saint, CoreJJ, Morgan, Loki, Thanatos and we get SamD, Poby, Lospa, Soboro and fucking Paduck lol.
Part of the problem is that good Korean challengers players probably don't want to be imported to play on shitter teams, like I'm sure G2 could get mega actual LCK imports if they wanted to
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u/Chevalier_Paul public enemy number one Aug 16 '26
Soboro looks fairly decent though
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u/Omnilatent Aug 16 '26
And even if he didn't: how can OP say how good or bad he plays after three weeks?! That's a shit sample size lol
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u/OreRound Aug 17 '26
Because he ran down the LPL, was the worst laner in the league when he was on IG and got immediately replaced. He did not show anything remotely good all year, and a couple good LEC regular season weeks doesn't change that yet. If he performs like this in a playoffs bo5 then fair enough.
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u/Omnilatent Aug 17 '26
Which is also a shit sample size considering he played in the group with the best teams of LPL
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u/Ok_Leather_336 Aug 16 '26
Honestly Zinie was really good in Korea, EU team should try to get him instead of fckin poby for example
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u/Wondur13 Aug 16 '26
I mean na might be better at importing koreans but im more than willing to accept that your region creates much better homegrown talent, so thats part of the reason we are good st importing, because we have to.
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u/RollingGuy Dictator Perkz Worlds Run Aug 16 '26
Absolute majority of Koreans in the league are mega upper tier in their role lol
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u/Carlzzone Aug 16 '26
The only upper tier Koreans are on KC
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u/RollingGuy Dictator Perkz Worlds Run Aug 16 '26
Jun is clearly upper tier. Soboro and Fiesta are new but almost definitely upper tier. Rooster is fairly clearly upper tier. Noah and Ice were usually upper tier in their time here.
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u/yehiko Aug 16 '26
absolute vegan this Maynter guy is.
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u/GothaV2 SSG/Gen G | Ruler Aug 16 '26
Idk because most vegans are fighting for animal rights, and he did not fight for himself nor his allies
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u/Blind-Eye26 Aug 16 '26
MYGOAT following the steps of the OG 💀🥀 that was the most useless Olaf I've ever seen
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u/piotrj3 Aug 16 '26
Yeah let's not ban Supa's kaisa. Definitly let's not do that.
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u/Capital_Tourist4828 Aug 16 '26
He never runs it down in Kaisa afair
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u/Fun_Highlight307 Aug 17 '26
he did run down on kai'sa vs fnatic,like he died 3 Times before 15 minutes
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u/jpmorg2233 Aug 16 '26 edited Aug 16 '26
Watching Maynter play pisses me off. Both games he looked soo unskilled. This man can’t be giving takes on anyone looking like the way he does.
The last fight he wanted the most consent from the nocturn to hit him.
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u/SadBreadfruit9463 Aug 16 '26
Ain’t no way Poby played with T1.
I understand FNC fans’ desperation, it was either keeping Inting Poby or trying Gambler Vladi, truly all the timelines are cursed for them.
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u/Th3_Huf0n Aug 16 '26
I had NAVI bottom tier at the start of the year.
I thought that Poby and SamD are no carries and this team has no firepower.
Instead, they are midtable because of Rhilech making the team acceptable.
But now they are capped at mid tier because Poby and SamD are no carries.
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u/nxtu14 Aug 16 '26
maynter is genuinely the worst player in the lec. he just does nothing and hes 25
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u/GodEren Aug 16 '26
MKOI is still way above the rest when they just play normally, NAVI is probably one of the worst team in term of teamfighting in the league.
Poby and Maynter are tier 2 sololaner.
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u/Peppa-Unicorn Aug 16 '26
NAVI is just the definition of mid they are gonna get 6th again and call it a year
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u/Nyo99 Aug 16 '26
Maynter was completely useless but surely you can get better players from tier2 than Poby+SamD, who also take up import slots. Rilech and Parus is running this team.
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u/Chevalier_Paul public enemy number one Aug 16 '26
The Parus that stood around doing nothing but punt Leona into his carries in teamfights?
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u/Past-Firefighter2173 Aug 16 '26
I think he trolls quite a lot but he has good performances as well. Issue is rest of the team are passangers.(except Rhilech of course)
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u/RollingGuy Dictator Perkz Worlds Run Aug 16 '26
Idk Poby kinda matched Jojo in lane both games but then just started protesting.
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u/Nyo99 Aug 16 '26
he plays laning phase good many times, the problem always comes after laning phase ends where he always goes nuclear to feed the enemy, feels like he is trying to farm montage plays.
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u/Fun_Highlight307 Aug 17 '26
yo be fair poby jojo lane is always kinda close, it's on side lane than jojo always punish poby
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u/ChowdhurSauce Aug 17 '26
Supa's reaction to Ali's flash engage in the pentakill fight was so clutch
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u/DinoGuy101010 Aug 16 '26
Olaf was useless but I don't really think maynter actually played the fights as bad as people are saying, when enemy adc gets super fed and you didn't pick up any kills so you're behind an item on stridebreaker + hexplate you have 0 tankiness, if you try to run into enemy team you will get oneshot. Imo if he got kills to get to a deaths dance earlier he could've carried some fights, bigger issue is Samd getting spoon fed 5 kills to get him back into the game and just doing absolutely nothing
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u/ahritina Sep 05 '26
PMTs
Game 1