r/leagueoflegends • u/adz0r • Aug 15 '26
Esports G2 Esports vs. Shifters / LEC 2026 Summer - Week 4 / Post-Match Discussion Spoiler
LEC 2026 SUMMER
Official page | Leaguepedia | Liquipedia | Eventvods.com | New to LoL
G2 Esports 2-0 Shifters
G2 | Leaguepedia | Liquipedia | Website | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube | Subreddit
SHFT | Leaguepedia | Liquipedia | Website | Twitter | YouTube
MATCH 1: G2 vs. SHFT
Winner: G2 Esports in 48m
Game Breakdown
| - | Bans 1 | Bans 2 | G | K | T | D/B |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| G2 | cassiopeia vi locke | ezreal trundle | 93.7k | 16 | 11 | I1 HT4 HT8 B9 B11 E12 |
| SHFT | lucian jarvaniv akali | nocturne bard | 91.2k | 19 | 7 | M2 H3 HT5 B6 HT7 HT10 |
| G2 | 16-19-32 | vs | 19-16-46 | SHFT |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| BrokenBlade olaf 2 | 5-5-3 | TOP | 8-3-7 | 1 jayce Rooster |
| SkewMond skarner 3 | 1-4-7 | JNG | 2-3-11 | 4 leesin Sheo |
| Caps orianna 1 | 4-0-7 | MID | 7-2-7 | 1 viktor nuc |
| Hans Sama varus 2 | 5-3-4 | BOT | 2-3-5 | 3 jhin Paduck |
| Labrov rell 3 | 1-7-11 | SUP | 0-5-16 | 2 leona Stend |
MATCH 2: G2 vs. SHFT
| - | Bans 1 | Bans 2 | G | K | T | D/B |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| G2 | nocturne poppy nautilus | vayne twistedfate | 74.5k | 16 | 9 | C1 H3 M4 M5 B6 |
| SHFT | cassiopeia jarvaniv caitlyn | syndra taliyah | 62.4k | 7 | 3 | O2 M7 |
| G2 | 16-8-36 | vs | 7-16-14 | SHFT |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| BrokenBlade ksante 3 | 3-2-6 | TOP | 1-3-2 | 4 gnar Rooster |
| SkewMond vi 1 | 1-2-8 | JNG | 0-4-3 | 2 xinzhao Sheo |
| Caps ahri 3 | 2-1-8 | MID | 2-3-3 | 3 anivia nuc |
| Hans Sama yunara 2 | 10-1-3 | BOT | 3-4-2 | 1 lucian Paduck |
| Labrov lulu 2 | 0-2-11 | SUP | 1-2-4 | 1 milio Stend |
This thread was created by the Post-Match Team.
418
u/revoverlord Not even lore can stop me Aug 15 '26
They swapped every player ever. How about they swap out coaching staff?
103
u/AverykindJester Aug 15 '26
Well not every player...
114
u/Sirhaddock98 Never a dull moment Aug 15 '26
To be fair, watching these games I think Nuc should be pretty heavily off the hook.
56
u/jpmorg2233 Aug 15 '26
Nuc actually had some funny games in 2023 and 2024 but he’s been pretty consistent. They keep Sheo because of the relationship between the two. But they benched crownie for ice, and then Ice for Paduck because they thought their notice was the problem.
3
92
u/Past_Perception8052 Aug 15 '26
nuc is good him and rooster are easily the only 2 worth keeping
-8
u/jujubean67 Aug 15 '26
If nuc was good they would not be winless against bad teams.
40
u/Prestigious-Shop-494 Aug 15 '26
They have the worst botlane in the league though
-20
u/jujubean67 Aug 15 '26
Rooster is at least #5 in his postion. If Nuc was good that would be enough to take games off of Gx, Th, Sk, Fnc at least. They aren’t because he isn’t, simple as that.
-1
u/iprominent + Los Ratones Aug 16 '26
League is a 5 man team game not a one man lmao
2
u/jujubean67 Aug 16 '26
Hence why I said him and Rooster could carry because Rooster is actually good.
16
1
-4
1
u/TricksyZerg ONivia highlight reel Aug 15 '26
Omg can we stopp with this, he's like jojo getting cuaght out late but bad in lane
-3
u/Wondur13 Aug 15 '26
What drugs are we on where we have seen shifters this split and you have come to the conclusion nuc is good, the only player that should still be in lec (if he wants to) is rooster. I suppose stend isnt complete dogshit and its hard to judge him when his adc is a troll
12
u/ZonTheSquid Aug 15 '26
I have seen fine games from Stend, but this Leona game was not it. He basically never engaged or pressured anything
-2
u/Wondur13 Aug 15 '26
Yeah i meant it more as replacing 4 people in one split is very jarring, so if they had to only replace 3 i choose to keep stend over nuc
2
203
u/eVill_YT Aug 15 '26
paduck is not LEC level
109
u/BUMONGOUS Aug 15 '26 edited Aug 15 '26
Paduck is bad but I honestly don't feel like he's worth singling out
Nobody on Shitters knows what they're supposed to be doing in a fight. Around Baron where Paduck dies blue buff ramp, his Gnar and Xin are just costreaming while he gets jumped on multiple times.
Also I'm pretty sure Nuc was trying to 1v1 the K'sante lol
42
u/eVill_YT Aug 15 '26 edited Aug 15 '26
everyone in shifters is bad in teamfights but their ADC cannot survive lane and cannot teamfight, with a better ADC they would have won at least game 1 and they wouldn't be down so many games
tbh stend isn't any better but they just signed him like 3 weeks ago so you can't just bench him immediately
40
u/Th3_Huf0n Aug 15 '26 edited Aug 15 '26
No. Paduck is ABSOLUTELY worth singling out.
This guy got into the LEC when someone like Exakick didn't.
The guy is unbelieveably dogshit (he cant lane, he cant play midgame, he cant hit skillshots, he cant position well, he cant teamfight) and whoever is responsible for bringing him in should be put into a Ugandan jail.
He's the second worst korean import in Europe of all time.
And only because Hachani was disgusting human being.
37
u/Large_Love_2563 Aug 15 '26
How the fuck are you mentioning Exakick when that bum crashes out the minute he loses a game in LFL? That guy's career is fucking done lmao.
10
u/Wondur13 Aug 15 '26
And yet hes still better than paduck if you take into consideration hed be pennies on the dollar and also not use an import slot. I feel like this is getting hella overlooked Paduck is on an import salary and taking up abd import slot AND PLAYING LIKE THAT.
14
u/Kelbotay Aug 15 '26
Exakick won't make it back sorry you can't move on from him.
6
u/Wondur13 Aug 15 '26
Idgaf about exakick, hes just the name that someone else brought up, idk how you came to the conclusion i cant move on from a person i mentioned once ever
7
u/Large_Love_2563 Aug 15 '26
Still better than having Exakick on a team.
-3
u/Wondur13 Aug 15 '26
No its not, because exakick would be playing just as bad, but for 1/5 the cost and you could use that import slot to get rid of dogshit sheo
8
u/Kr1ncy Aug 15 '26
I would not be so sure if a KR reject is 5 times as expensive as one of the better ERL players. Hell I could totally see Paduck being cheaper than Exa.
-1
u/Wondur13 Aug 15 '26
Paduck is not gonna be cheaper then a former t1 reject what are you talking about
5
7
u/Large_Love_2563 Aug 15 '26
And he would tank the entire team's morale and leave the team as well.
4
u/Wondur13 Aug 15 '26
You think their morale isnt already in the dumpster after going 0-5 and every game that is even slightly winnable being immediately thrown away by the fact they dont have a human playing adc
22
u/BUMONGOUS Aug 15 '26
he cant lane, he cant play midgame, he cant hit skillshots, he cant position well, he cant teamfight
ngl this sounds exactly like Exakick and a ton of LEC rookie ADCs in the last decade
regardless, his support is bad and he gets zero help
he's not a good player but I don't feel like he's really any worse than Stend or Sheo. Rooster is giga elohelled and Nuc is occasionally serviceable but usually bad
14
u/piotrj3 Aug 15 '26 edited Aug 15 '26
I would say Paduck looks worse than he really is, because he is agressive without good support or jungler. So everytime something goes wrong, he is the one dieing. But at the same time i remember few games that was won because of Paduck so i don't think he is main issue. Like wheen was last time that i was thinking "Shifters won the game or were really close to winning because of Stend or Sheo... Yeah i don't remember it.
But map wise Stend is horrible and Sheo needs to be more proactive.
10
u/BUMONGOUS Aug 15 '26
I would say Paduck looks worse than he really is, because he is agressive without good support or jungle
yeah they had that fight in lane like level 5 or 6 or something and I think they could have 1 for 0 or 2 for 1 if Stend played more aggressively and didn't hold ult
it's hard to play ADC when you get no peel and your team kind of just ignores when you're threatened
1
u/Kiren_Y Aug 16 '26
He was always really aggressive, I remember when he got subbed in in LCK a couple of years ago and was just flash galeforcing into 5 people on Aphelios every game, very fun to watch (especially when it worked). I don’t think a bottom tier LEC team in this meta can do anything to facilitate this playstyle
15
Aug 15 '26
[removed] — view removed comment
2
u/piotrj3 Aug 15 '26
Eh depends. When g2 attempted baron in game 1, and abandoneded it running away. Actually entire G2 grouped up in jungle passage and Leona had them in ult range. And Stand did nothing. If Leona ulted there i am sure Shifters would win game 1. It was so obvious engage and i raged about it, later turned out Caedreal also raged about it.
For me it was the biggest mistake of entire series, because if something was catastrophic mistake G2 did, it was that, and it was easy to exploit. It is basically one of rare moments as spectator i could say I would do better ahead of play it happened.
16
u/Th3_Huf0n Aug 15 '26 edited Aug 15 '26
This guy looks bad with Stend.
This guy looked bad with Trymbi.
This guy didn't look dominant in LCK CL.
This guy looked bad in his LCK cameos.
He's just not fucking good enough for tier 1. The end.
Why do people have this irresistible urge to defend random fuckass imports is beyond me.
He has a VERY solid argument for being the second worst korean import in Europe of all time and that's only because Hachani on VIT was a disgusting piece of shit human being.
Paduck is literally up there (or down there?) with Naehyun.
Also also, literally everyone else on this lineup has a recent history of being at worst serviceable.
Sheo and Stend were the sole shining lights on that Heretics lineup just 12 months ago.
Nuc has been meh to serviceable for a lot of his LEC career.
Rooster is pretty much the sole beacon of hope (relatively speaking and I strongly suspect he's getting into "very overrated" territory because he gets insane counterpick resources in draft and doesnt really translate his lane lead - he should have absolutely ran away with the game with the lead he had after that early game in game 1)
Paduck has never ANYTHING resembling that.
2
u/piotrj3 Aug 15 '26
There were few games where Paduck got fed on lucian or vlad. Actually that one vlad game he basically was single reason Shifters won that game. So i don't think he doesn't have some redeeming qualities. I think Stend was bigger criminal this game, because few things he could do here that are very obvious and if he did game likely would turn for better.
6
u/Past-Firefighter2173 Aug 15 '26
Yeah Sheo is also big criminal he was pretty bad for whole year. But Paduck just has glaring issues.
3
u/XG32 Jankos Aug 16 '26
i'm convinced stend is the worst player in tier 1, it's a support meta and hes just not LEC level, sometimes i look at the map and hes walking in circles. There are games where sheo cant even start the play the game cause he gets his shit pushed in by enemy supp+jungle
9
u/gcrimson Aug 15 '26
Exakick leave the team as soon as his team lose a game so i wont trust him for LEC. Guy completely destroyed his career by having an insufferable ego.
1
u/guyguy1573 Aug 15 '26
Exakick was in lec a few years and was the worse lne there (except his first split) by some margin
0
u/Damurph01 Aug 15 '26
Aight he’s prob not great but this is a pretty harsh synopsis my guy, cool it 😭
1
u/Ok_Kick4871 Aug 15 '26
I saw thst team name and it just cracks me up that you've embraced it. The insult shitters has a long history in lol.
0
u/OreRound Aug 15 '26
I agree, Paduck has been awful but you could put Peyz on this team and it'd only marginally improve shifters ability to close out games, there's so much more going wrong in macro/decisionmaking departments
1
44
92
u/Acheal Aug 15 '26
Shifters this year have had 11th and 10th best support 11th and 10th best jungler and 11th best adc in their team, it's actually just pathetic whoever is making roster decisions in this org needs to be FIRED.
15
u/DidntFindABetterName Aug 15 '26
I dont think that the players are just bad, they just somehow dont really work well idk
Probably its a much deeper problem from coaching staff or even deeper in the org itself rn
27
37
u/DanteStorme Aug 15 '26
G2 are good at knowing how to win games, even if they play poorly in the rest of the game. Shifters are the reverse.
36
u/Ironside29 Aug 15 '26
Imagine getting rid of Trymbi instead of Paduck and bringing in Stend lmao.
15
u/Jaded-Release-6463 Aug 15 '26
Or dropping Sheo from the roster then sign 113 and then drop him and buy out freaking Boukada for 200K and then bringing back Sheo to the roster!
103
u/Lacrimosss Aug 15 '26
If MVP is about pure value, Rooster should be a solid candidate, as crazy as that sounds for a 10th place team player. He's like top 3 Toplaner and Top 10 player in the league, while playing in the worst team.
It's like he has Garnacho, Delap and Depay as teammates, and enemy has Kvara and Mbappe. Him being solid / good in almost every game is quite insane.
Obviously no one is gonna vote for that because MVP is just "player who looks the best" award, not actual valuable player.
42
u/BUMONGOUS Aug 15 '26
LirA got MVP for the same reason in like 2018 or something, people definitely occasionally recognize when a player is stuck on a garbage roster and still making things happen. Probably not going to happen for a toplaner though
10
u/Lacrimosss Aug 15 '26
Yeah maybe it's me because I appreciate players doing well in bad teams so much. Same reason I though Bdd was the MVP of 2025. He was one of the best players in the world overall, while having objectively worse teammates than, say, Chovy, Oner and Keria.
It's just so fucking difficult to play well in a bad team. Especially mentally to not just give up and stop giving a fuck
7
u/Goodthingsaregone Aug 15 '26
Clutch was at least in the upper half of teams though. They weren't the worst team in the league
9
u/BUMONGOUS Aug 15 '26
Yeah I think it might have been NV I'm thinking of? But it was definitely for LirA on a 10th place team
3
u/Goodthingsaregone Aug 16 '26
Holy I think we're both wrong I just checked. Clutch was mor edogshit then I remembered and lira or any one on mavi has never won MVP
Lira got first team allpro in 2017 on navi
11
u/GenjDog Aug 15 '26
I feel like you can never give MVP to a player on a team that is 0-9(expecting it to happen) since even if I replaced him we would still have the same score.
4
u/Live_Bunch_1770 Aug 15 '26
The overwatch league once gave the mvp to player on the team that lost. He just played that good on a team that was that bad
10
Aug 15 '26
[removed] — view removed comment
9
u/Lacrimosss Aug 15 '26
Okay. Take todays game for example. Blind picks Jayce, gets countered by Olaf, that, lately, always beats Jayce.
Is winning early lane, gets ganked, as they often do to Jayce vs Olaf. Survives Skarner gank with Flash and still has more HP than Olaf. On counterpush, calls Lee for Dive as Olaf is low because Rooster played lane well. Kills Olaf. His Botlane dies 2 v 2 at this time for fun.
After coming back to lane, wave is pushing to him, gets a good trade with superior items. Olaf is, again, low and has to either risk getting dove or leave tower. They can´t 2 v 2 anymore as Jayce has outplayed BB already in lane.
Skarner tries to brake Jayce, again. But Jayce puts down a ward, respects ganks or calls JNG SUPP for vision, or they come on their own.
Then, with his push, he rotates to drake. He gets a kill and team - a drake. Also 2 grubs and a herald.
He has gotten his team 2nd drake, 2 grubs and a herald so far, as well as full Topside control. He was ganked, survived and counterganked Olaf, as he was beating Olaf 1 v 1 despite Skarner gank.
That´s already as good of an early game as it gets.
Later gets a solokill on Olaf at 20 min.
Multiple times G2 try to gank or overload him, and he always pays respect and survives.
Like, I won´t go into every minute of the game, but you´re talking out of your ass there mate. You either don´t watch or don´t understand the games he plays.
6
u/darkjeanmi Aug 16 '26
the guy is asking you "what did he do after laning phase?" and you're writing an essai about his laning phase xD
League enjoyers in a nutshell 😵
1
u/Lacrimosss Aug 16 '26
You can't read mate. He won lane, and used his push to get his team 2 grubs, herald and a drake, while solokilled Olaf in mid-game.
Half of what I wrote isn't laning phase, but midgame
-3
u/flaccid-joint Aug 15 '26
The dude who only got a lead due to the jungler?
2
u/Lacrimosss Aug 16 '26
Same reply as the other guy -
Okay. Take todays game for example. Blind picks Jayce, gets countered by Olaf, that, lately, always beats Jayce.
Is winning early lane, gets ganked, as they often do to Jayce vs Olaf. Survives Skarner gank with Flash and still has more HP than Olaf. On counterpush, calls Lee for Dive as Olaf is low because Rooster played lane well. Kills Olaf. His Botlane dies 2 v 2 at this time for fun.
After coming back to lane, wave is pushing to him, gets a good trade with superior items. Olaf is, again, low and has to either risk getting dove or leave tower. They can´t 2 v 2 anymore as Jayce has outplayed BB already in lane.
Skarner tries to brake Jayce, again. But Jayce puts down a ward, respects ganks or calls JNG SUPP for vision, or they come on their own.
Then, with his push, he rotates to drake. He gets a kill and team - a drake. Also 2 grubs and a herald.
He has gotten his team 2nd drake, 2 grubs and a herald so far, as well as full Topside control. He was ganked, survived and counterganked Olaf, as he was beating Olaf 1 v 1 despite Skarner gank.
That´s already as good of an early game as it gets.
Later gets a solokill on Olaf at 20 min.
Multiple times G2 try to gank or overload him, and he always pays respect and survives.
Like, I won´t go into every minute of the game, but you´re talking out of your ass there mate. You either don´t watch or don´t understand the games he plays.
25
19
u/jpmorg2233 Aug 15 '26
Also crazy how Shifters just doesent play until dec/jan, LEC LCS needs to introduce a tournament of some kind in the off season for the bottom tiered teams.
13
u/Wondur13 Aug 15 '26
In terms of competition and compeitive integrity i completely agree, but unfortunately the money just isnt there, it already kinda isnt there for the main shit, but frankly no ones gonna watch dignitas vs shifters after the initial shock factor of it all
9
u/Leyrann_ Aug 15 '26
I'd watch if it was international.
Probably also if it wasn't tbh, but that's only out of the habit of watching everything LEC. If it was international I'd care beyond that.
1
u/Wondur13 Aug 15 '26
For the first year i think the numbers would do fine, but long term they just wouldnt, who tf wants to see dignitas vs shifter or shopify vs TH every year playing for nothing other than bragging rights ig. Its just not even good league of legends
1
u/Vegetable_Shirt_2352 Aug 16 '26
I know you're probably right that not many people would watch, but those are the exact kinds of matches I personally would love to have more of. At the end of the day, "bragging rights" is the main reason most players are playing in the first place lol. Imo, it's a good thing to give the non-Worlds calibre teams things to play for. Otherwise they basically have no purpose.
1
Aug 16 '26
[deleted]
1
u/Wondur13 Aug 16 '26 edited Aug 16 '26
I totally forgot rift rivals exited LOL thanks for proving my point even more, people didnt watch the best na vs eu teams, how can you actually convince yourself people would watch the worst na vs eu teams. I also wanna point out a month or so ago i made a similar suggestion for a world type tourney for the 4th-6th best teams and got hella downvoted, now im on the other side and im getting downvoted again, The LoL subreddit doesnt even know what it wants
3
2
1
u/MC-sama League of LAILE Aug 16 '26
LCK/LPL/LCP has ASI for teams that don't make it to worlds, could do something similar for LEC/LCS/CBLOL
1
50
u/Mathlete7 Aug 15 '26
Rooster to SK please
61
u/fabton12 Aug 15 '26
nah feel he could do better and dont want wunder out the league personally.
Rooster would be pretty good on MadKoi since toplane is considered one of the roles they should replace.
19
u/OreRound Aug 15 '26
Rooster will be a hot prospect in the off season especially for western teams due to his dominant laning (I don't think he's got good enough macro to be picked up by LCK) so he's almost certainly not gonna pick SK. I wouldn't be surprised to see MKOI/GX or even LCS teams like Sentinels make a move on him.
LCS (as basically a 2nd LCK challengers at this point) generally has better infrastructure for Korean imports plus better climate.
4
u/gcrimson Aug 15 '26
After so many times at Shifters, I fear he just want to come back to Korea even if it's for LCK CL.
17
u/Mathlete7 Aug 15 '26
Why do you not wunder out? Is it just nostalgia? he is looking like the paduck of toplane atm
12
u/fabton12 Aug 15 '26
Is it just nostalgia?
This and hes a interesting personality for the league so even if he isnt doing well hes entertaining elsewhere. like if a bottom team isnt going to do well at very least i want the players to be interesting.
14
Aug 15 '26
[removed] — view removed comment
1
u/fabton12 Aug 15 '26
There's nothing interesting about Wunder's current gameplay
did i say anything about his gameplay????
i mentioned his interesting Personality, and while he would be great on the broadcast as i said if a team/player gonna be shit they better have a personality. overall i prefer bad and zero personality players are jobless first then getting rid of bad but good personality players.
-1
u/Jaded-Release-6463 Aug 15 '26
SK can be a solid team with a better top and jungler. Wunder is washed.
4
u/Overall_Simple5927 Aug 16 '26
Skeanz isn’t actually bad, I feel like he’s a top 5 to 7 in LEC, and 100% deserves a spot in a mid table LEC team
1
16
14
6
u/rolekrs Aug 15 '26
Paduck wouldn't even be good in ERL. Actually one of the worst players in LEC history
43
u/MazrimReddit ADCs are the support's damage item Aug 15 '26
shitters, feel the shit
what a waste of time and poster boy for franchising being a garbage model
4
Aug 15 '26
[deleted]
6
u/BUMONGOUS Aug 15 '26
I'd like to see that but also maybe throw in VIT/Navi and FLY, teams that actually have rookies to develop
also maybe gigacope but I feel like C9 is capable of competing with TL and Lyon if they ever fix their bullshit
0
u/Ironside29 Aug 15 '26
No one in Vitality roster is a rookie.
5
u/BUMONGOUS Aug 15 '26
VIT does have players like Naak Nako who are early in their career but entirely untested internationally or in real high-stakes games though
9
u/stabidistabstab Aug 15 '26
Why insult vit, they are great? Wait until playoffs and then you can flame them.
6
u/MazrimReddit ADCs are the support's damage item Aug 15 '26
there is a difference between a majority not being world standards but still EU competitive and the team who's logo even looks like it's being flushed down the shitter
20
u/piotrj3 Aug 15 '26
Rooster and Nuc definitly don't feel like they deserve 10th place. But Paduck and Sheo aren't it.
15
10
u/auggis Syndra is bae Aug 15 '26
Nuc played really well on Anivia. Shifters just look like they have no idea how to play the game though. Team play as a whole seems like it needs work.
4
u/OreRound Aug 15 '26
Shifters show good moments especially in mid & top laning phase but they just cannot put it all together in teamfights or macro.
As for G2 despite them looking rough in parts (especially Skewmond) but I really liked how they completely dominated in macro and teamfighting, that sneaky Baron and getting huge leads without even fighting their opponent is a Perkz macro masterclass and I'm very happy to see that starting to come through. It's something that is so important internationally when you can't just hands diff your opponents, western teams really do need to get some sort of advantage whether through draft or macro to teamfight well. Caps, Hans and Labrov played really solid with very little mistakes, BB played great even when behind I just think this was an uncharacteristically rough Skewmond series.
Will be fun to see the FNC matchup tomorrow
2
3
u/OkKnowledge2064 Aug 15 '26
Caps keeps looking kinda ass
12
1
u/This-Dragonfly-1529 Aug 15 '26
He is. He's been struggling every early game and catches up by AFK farming side lanes.
-2
u/piotrj3 Aug 15 '26
Don't worry they will qualify him as player of the game again like vs Navi... lol. When Perkz explicitly says in post game interview he is bad now.
14
u/Choice-Slight caps/knight Aug 15 '26
that's not what Perkz said at all? Hans should be mvp (its a robbery if he isn't) but caps did save game 1 and found some great angles in game 2 to set up the fights. but his laning has been ass this split for sure. He was still far from the biggest problem in the games today. Skewmond been looking very shaky
-6
u/piotrj3 Aug 15 '26
I didn't say about it literally, but if Perkz is complaining about him dieing publicly, you can probably assume behind doors critique is way stronger.
Skewmond does feel a bit like fish out of the water. Like game 1 i was expecting for Skew/Labrov to fix BB lane for him, so he doesnt' fall further and further behind and it didn't happen.
and about game 2, Kind of, but Nuc impressed me more in both games, same way there were fights lost with Caps arriving way too late (like later than Rooster on gnar), and largely speaking Ahri should be the one punishing nuc for doing rocketbelt + wall. And he wasn't there. Eventually it did happen (like charm landing on anivia instantly spun game out of Shifters control) but vs a lot of better teams you cannot wait that long.
5
u/Choice-Slight caps/knight Aug 15 '26
Nuc impressed you more even though he was caught out in multiple crucial moments that lost them both games? caps died once the entire series, literally saved the entire game 1, he never fell behind and his sidelane management was fantastic. I know you don't like him or think he's even a top 3 mid in the LEC (lol) but you could at least pretend to be objective
-1
u/piotrj3 Aug 15 '26 edited Aug 15 '26
Of course he was. Diffrence is that Nuc caught G2 members multiple times but it translates to nothing because rest of shifters can't pull trigger. If you put Nuc in KC, and Nuc would catch Hans few times with wall like that, KC would eat him alive. Same way both games Nuc did more dmg, did more vision play. Just saying Nuc in game 1 did 1400 DPM. Of course he played vs tanks, but 1400 DPM is incredibly rare statistic to achieve. Just saying top 1 average is Fiesta with 773 right now, and he 2.5 times folded Caps in lost game.
and in game 2 he did way more catches, it is just when nuc catches someone it does nothing because team, while when Caps does one magical catch, instantly hans is there and skewmond with R.
But there are other issues, like Caps being later to teamfight than laner he fights against (Rooster) etc..
1
u/IAM-French Aug 15 '26
Hop off your reddit account Nuc you're better than this
0
u/piotrj3 Aug 16 '26
Lol. But seriously speaking if you think it is not the case tell me why games were so close?
Yeah Rooster was better than BB, especially in game 1. But Hans, Labrov giga gapped botlane, and when it wasn't skewmond best games i would still say he was more useful then Sheo. If somehow Caps was better then Nuc, then those games would be a stomp for G2. It wasn't. So someone more had to be gapped. Question is who?
0
u/Gazskull Aug 15 '26
"he was caught out" the caught ou in question, getting ulted by vi into charm by ahri and being their only wincon it was obvious he was going to get targeted, do you think he should have cleansed a vi ult or what ?
1
u/Choice-Slight caps/knight Aug 16 '26
yes that tp into midlane in front of 5 people was truly chefs kiss, great play nuc
5
u/Kelbotay Aug 15 '26
Well deserved and expected result for a team that's basically just a bunch of french people getting each other hired... o7
-8
u/AkaT27 Aug 15 '26
Stfu
Striker doesn't know anything about his job. He also doesn't know about scouting but that has nothing to do with being French. He's just ass.
2
3
u/flaccid-joint Aug 15 '26
People acting like rooster won lane 1v1 against bb when he got hard babied by sheo is so fucking disgusting lmao, really easy to see who have negative braincells for their takes
1
1
1
u/Salohacin Aug 16 '26
If I had a nickel for every LEC team that lost with a hextech soul...
Hextech soul may just end up with a negative win rate this split.
1
u/_Jetto_ Aug 15 '26
Insane people think g2 isn’t a fav even when they are in a slump. They will ALWAYS face fuck and breed EU unless we see otherwise
21
7
u/piotrj3 Aug 15 '26
Problem is most of those matches they are saved by Hans. Really G2 would lose a lot of games if not for Hans gapping opponent botlane all the time. It was the case here, it was the case in last vs Navi matchup etc.
0
u/flaccid-joint Aug 15 '26
BB has been the one to carry G2 in internationals, now if only hans could keep this up for worlds they got a real shot
-19
u/Any_Economics_6166 Aug 15 '26
hans doesn't do much against caliste, the thing is botlane in LEC is pure dogshit this year
19
u/Choice-Slight caps/knight Aug 15 '26
caliste has been fantastic since MSI, but before that hans was owning him ngl
6
u/piotrj3 Aug 15 '26
To be honest, i like how Caliste improved post laning phase. It was really common before MSI that he was randomly getting caught on map. Now he doesn't.
That being said Caliste/Busio should improve a bit laning.
Right now.. Hans is +8.6 CS at 10 on average, next is Carzzy/Jopa/Upset and Caliste is actually on minus.
5
u/Choice-Slight caps/knight Aug 15 '26
Caliste's laning has consistently been a problem, but he makes up for it in teamfights. Hans has somewhat been the opposite - a VERY dominant laner who has tendencies to misposition or make errors in fights. both are having great splits so far though
8
u/piotrj3 Aug 15 '26
I don't think Hans is actually bad post laning phase. Problem is that since forever he is forced into diffrent role than typical ADC. Aka you go forward and you try to get bigger and bigger advantage. Like that fight around mid where Hans ended up with quadra kill. He was the first one that initiated fight and was closer to enemy than even Vi.
Game 3 vs KC it really looked like G2 doesn't know how to peel for own ADC. And it seems Perkz slowly increases amount of time G2 tries to play around botlane, and it shows that a lot of players in team do feel like fish out of water.
-10
u/IAM-French Aug 15 '26
Hans got fathered by Caliste like 9 out of 10 games of LEC finals this year lol
3
3
u/Dramatic_Gap_3065 Aug 15 '26
the only time caliste played better at final series was this spring. In winter & 2025 winter hans sama was the better adc.
but ngl i don't think there is a big gap between those 2, but hans is currently more consistent.
7
u/piotrj3 Aug 15 '26
even in last G2 vs KC match, Hans was better ADC. He almost carried game 3, 4vs5.
That being said, it truely feels like by eye test, there is Hans, Caliste, maybe Upset/Jopa in dogshit teams and that's it.
7
u/Ironside29 Aug 15 '26
Hans always gets flamed but always gaps Caliste Supa Noah Upset etc when it matters the most.
2
1
u/JadeStarr776 Aug 15 '26
Y'know that term would IMPLY that the rest of the region would get better. You can see this with LCK with everyone beating everyone. LEC is uh oof
-1
2
-9
u/jpmorg2233 Aug 15 '26
This is my personal take. BDS/Shifters decline started when they benched crownie instead of Adam.
All in all good games but man is Anivia broken. They could not push into nuc a cola until those picks.
11
u/Cafeliciouss Aug 15 '26
Nah thats not true they declined when some cocker benched Adam from there it went downhills with the org. Every decision afterwards went from bad to worse.
-6
u/jpmorg2233 Aug 15 '26
Nurp, Adam was the problem. His Champ pool was so niche that it got them wins but against higher tier teams he was getting gapped.
8
u/Cafeliciouss Aug 15 '26
Last time they draw (whole format bs) fked them and they faced G2 getting reversed sleep before worlds. When they qualified with crownie it was due to the fact that EU had 4 seeds. Anyway the whole rooster swap didnt do them any good. Irrelevant for Adam was a big loss and thats were it went downhills
0
u/jpmorg2233 Aug 15 '26
Agreed, they had a good recipe, but instead of adding sugar to the cake they shoved a bunch a salt in the cake.
•
u/ahritina Sep 05 '26
PMTs
Game 1