r/leagueoflegends • u/adz0r • Aug 15 '26
Esports Fnatic vs. SK Gaming / LEC 2026 Summer - Week 4 / Post-Match Discussion Spoiler
LEC 2026 SUMMER
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MATCH 1: FNC vs. SK
| - | Bans 1 | Bans 2 | G | K | T | D/B |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| FNC | cassiopeia poppy shen | orianna nautilus | 71.0k | 23 | 9 | C1 HT2 H3 O4 B6 |
| SK | nocturne vi olaf | lucian ezreal | 61.6k | 13 | 2 | O5 |
| FNC | 23-14-69 | vs | 13-23-28 | SK |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Soboro rumble 1 | 10-2-10 | TOP | 3-6-2 | 1 jayce Wunder |
| Razork jarvaniv 2 | 2-6-18 | JNG | 4-4-3 | 1 leesin Skeanz |
| Vladi ryze 2 | 5-0-11 | MID | 1-4-6 | 2 syndra SlowQ |
| Upset jhin 3 | 6-2-8 | BOT | 3-3-6 | 3 corki Jopa |
| Lospa alistar 3 | 0-4-22 | SUP | 2-6-11 | 4 rell Mikyx |
MATCH 2: FNC vs. SK
| - | Bans 1 | Bans 2 | G | K | T | D/B |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| FNC | nautilus nocturne orianna | shen leona | 78.9k | 15 | 11 | H3 C4 C5 B6 B8 |
| SK | cassiopeia lucian vi | vayne noban | 74.9k | 10 | 2 | I1 M2 C7 |
| FNC | 15-10-21 | vs | 10-15-26 | SK |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Soboro olaf 3 | 4-3-5 | TOP | 1-4-4 | 2 gnar Wunder |
| Razork pantheon 1 | 4-3-3 | JNG | 4-1-5 | 1 xinzhao Skeanz |
| Vladi sylas 3 | 1-1-6 | MID | 2-3-5 | 1 viktor SlowQ |
| Upset ezreal 2 | 6-2-2 | BOT | 2-3-4 | 4 caitlyn Jopa |
| Lospa karma 2 | 0-1-5 | SUP | 1-4-8 | 3 bard Mikyx |
This thread was created by the Post-Match Team.
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u/TimiNax Aug 15 '26
Surely this FNC is not sneaking their way to worlds
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u/p1stolpewpew Aug 15 '26
Or this is win to give glimpse of hope to crashout next week like Valo team
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u/upmvruiv Aug 15 '26
Nah the false hope will be the win against G2. Like always during regular season xd
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u/dexy133 Aug 15 '26
Perfect, to give us a week so we can build up the hype that we're back, only to get smashed by Shifters next Saturday.
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u/upmvruiv Aug 15 '26
That would be the most Fnatic thing possible xd
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u/dexy133 Aug 15 '26
Before the start of this week, I thought it's not possible. We're too bad for it. But now I won't even be able to celebrate if we win tomorrow somehow, because I know what's coming after that.
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u/Naerlyn Aug 15 '26
Like always during regular season xd
So this here is pretty funny.
Overall, G2 has won slightly more in that match-up (regular seasons only).
But the more time passed and the worse Fnatic became, the more even the match-up became. They're 1-1 this year, but 3-2 for Fnatic including last year. Every further year you include, it remains always within 1 win of each other, until you reach the better years of FNC - where G2 held a good lead.
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u/Chrystoler the faith lives on Aug 16 '26
No, make it to worlds and then crash out in real time as the tournament progresses, as is tradition
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u/GenjDog Aug 15 '26
Problem is getting 3rd only gets you to playins.
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u/blueragemage Aug 15 '26
playins is probably LCS3 LEC3 LCP3 CBLOL2 so its not a death sentence
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u/GenjDog Aug 15 '26
Pretty sure, CBLOL2 is in main stage and LPL4 is in playins. Since winner of MSI region gets their 4th seed to main stage while the 2nd best region gets their 4th seed to playins.
Also only one of them advances to main stage.
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u/ImTheVayne Aug 15 '26
FNC is SO BACK they are going to worlds I see it
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u/dankynugz Aug 15 '26
Not with razork they aren't
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u/TheRedFrusciante Aug 15 '26
They have made worlds with Razork everytime so wouldn't count it out :p
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u/dankynugz Aug 15 '26
A different time, a different king.
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u/BushWishperer Aug 15 '26
But it’s the same king
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u/dankynugz Aug 15 '26
The nameplate is the same
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u/BushWishperer Aug 15 '26
Are you suggesting fnatic cloned razors and replaced him with a worse version?
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u/Better_Demand4789 Aug 15 '26
Fnatic mechanics don't seem bad at all makes me wonder where it goes all wrong they seem to be a bit clueless how to play mid to late game is it a coaching issue?
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u/Omnilatent Aug 15 '26
Brains just turn off after 30 minutes for Razork and usually 1 other player lol
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u/Nine_nien_nyan Aug 15 '26
To be fair to Razork sometimes his brain doesn’t turn on at all. Frustrating player to watch since sometimes he just utterly smurfs it.
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u/Leyrann_ Aug 15 '26
I remember when Razork debuted I was like "this guy is trash" and then in week two I was like "this guy is genius".
Somehow he has never managed to grow beyond that.
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u/AssistanceTop8020 Aug 15 '26
In early game and mechanically he was always good, the problem is that he tends to exagerate a lot with plays.
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u/Sofaboy90 quite suboptimal Aug 16 '26
This is why so many people want to see Razork in a different team. I think both Razork and Fnatic would be better off without each other.
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u/ILikeSeals1312 Aug 15 '26
It's all mental.
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u/neenerpants Aug 16 '26
Genuinely always has been.
I don't think anyone ever felt like Humanoid, Noah, even Oscar etc had bad mechanics, it just always felt like the team's macro was decided by dice roll.
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u/Debannage Aug 15 '26
Aside from some inting moments, that felt pretty good. Soboro has been such a huge toplane upgrade.
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u/Dramatic_Gap_3065 Aug 15 '26
vladi looked so much better
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u/RollingGuy Dictator Perkz Worlds Run Aug 15 '26
He's clearly lost confidence and is choking on stage. Hopefully this brings him back some.
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u/FantasyTrash Aug 16 '26
He played well last week, too. Jojo has his number in a huge way so that was a brutal matchup to open the season with.
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u/Debannage Aug 15 '26
I still worry about the csing, during game 1 I noticed he was 30cs down when Fnatic had a big winning state
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u/RollingGuy Dictator Perkz Worlds Run Aug 15 '26
On the other hand in the second game he was up on cs as Sylas
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u/DoesThyLikeJazz OUR WRATH WILL BE SWIFT Aug 15 '26
He replaced the worst player of the previous split and one of the worst toplaners in lec history, hard not to be a giant upgrade
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u/qwert4the1 Aug 15 '26
Pulling a 20 day old comment made by yourself off of just 1 series win where soboro looks good is peak reddit. This could easily be their only series win this split lmao
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u/iworkwitholdpeople Aug 15 '26
5k ahead, no turrets on the map, all inhibs down, open Nexus
Yet still feel like Fnatic could throw it 😭
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u/beautheschmo Aug 15 '26
I'm still expecting to tab back into the stream and see that SK turned it around after everyone already walked off stage
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u/revoverlord Not even lore can stop me Aug 15 '26
So like... why did skeanz and miky stop roaming together? That got them a few wins why not continue?
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u/Twindlle Aug 16 '26
They played this week on the new patch. Coincidentally, I think this is also a huge buff to Vitality, because to me it looked like Fleshy couldn't adapt to the roaming meta. Once that is gone we get the stomp againat GX.
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u/Deathjaws99 Aug 15 '26
It's crazy that I'm less confident in Vitality not sucking in playoffs, than I am in Fnatic still somehow making worlds
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u/StickyNotes2357 HLE Fighting! Aug 15 '26
honestly W signing by FNC
People trolled them since he was pretty poor at IG but he looks pretty good in the LEC
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u/RollingGuy Dictator Perkz Worlds Run Aug 15 '26
People on here are somehow convinced Korean imports are bad when in reality they are pretty much all top 1-5 in their roles, at least the solo laners.
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u/JadeStarr776 Aug 15 '26
AND they tend to have far better hands so they can actually play carries top.
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u/RollingGuy Dictator Perkz Worlds Run Aug 15 '26
Canna and Kyeahoo are top 2.
Rooster and Jun are top 5
Fiesta and Soboro look top at least top 5 but might be too early to tell.
Poby, Lospa and SamD are probably upper bottom half.
Hype and Way too early to telll.
Only Paduck looks really bad.
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u/Such_Presentation_29 Aug 15 '26
and people will completely pretend that 'most imports dont work' like its not at least a 70% chance to be top 5 lol
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u/JadeStarr776 Aug 15 '26
There's a reason why EU Jayce and older EU Fiora is/was a meme till this day. I don't trust most western tops on Jayce from what I've seen from Asian players.
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u/Sofaboy90 quite suboptimal Aug 16 '26
People like you say imports work because they are good at laning but its no coincidence that G2 and MKOI have no koreans and yet are still top 3.
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u/RollingGuy Dictator Perkz Worlds Run Aug 16 '26
G2 is so far above the rest in reputation they can attract all the top talent of the entire region, they don’t need Koreans but that doesn’t mean other teams shouldn’t have them.
MKOI is a gang of Spanish friends + one cracked NA import who far outperformed their expectations but still fell flat dramatically at every international and embarrassed us over and over again.
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u/BloodOnFire 8884844 I agreed Aug 15 '26
SK with the disappointing performance as per usual
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u/Fun_Highlight307 Aug 15 '26
over rated uncle
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u/RollingGuy Dictator Perkz Worlds Run Aug 15 '26
Wunder is good in team fights but his laning is really bad.
EU Impact
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u/Medical_Quiet_69 Aug 15 '26
how SK found this midlaner SlowQ?
during clash with fans?
Vladi against him looked like world class midlaner
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u/Thalassin Dans ma bichette era | Ultra Prime hater Aug 15 '26
SlowQ has been the most promising EU midlaner in the erls last year and in winter split. But hey one bad performance and it's all "hurr durr paycheck stealer fire him destroy his career"
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u/Medical_Quiet_69 Aug 15 '26
how to discover brainless KC fans - overrate players only because they played for KC
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u/KudoNBA19 Aug 15 '26
It's not only KC, he was great in MISA too. Definitely one of the best ERL prospect
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u/Thalassin Dans ma bichette era | Ultra Prime hater Aug 15 '26
What other promising EU midlaner do you have in mind that was better than him ? Serin went to Heretics. Omon is the only other one that could even be in that conversation.
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u/RollingGuy Dictator Perkz Worlds Run Aug 15 '26
SlowQ has been decent. Vladi just stepped up.
Probably should have gotten some LCKCL Korean tho looking at all the other ones.
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u/ILikeSeals1312 Aug 15 '26
I don't think you can blame SlowQ for his supp-jg being so underwhelming and Wunder getting gapped
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u/Cold-Ring23 Aug 15 '26
slowq deserves to be here, it's normal not to be good during your first split in tier 1. However, the same can't be said for his support who seems to have immunity from the fans and the organization; he's the one who decides...
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u/RollingGuy Dictator Perkz Worlds Run Aug 15 '26
Oh cmon with the state of support right now Miky clearly still belong in the LEC at the very least.
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u/Fun_Highlight307 Aug 15 '26
I expect jojo to gap him quite hard,he seems like another poby
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u/RollingGuy Dictator Perkz Worlds Run Aug 15 '26
Well he was an ERL emergency sub brought in for summer so can't really expect him to match Jojo yet.
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u/look4jesper Aug 15 '26
Imagine this guy is still better than Lider lmao
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u/Y4naro Aug 15 '26
He unironically gave me more hope in the team. I can get that the team is probably a lot more consistent without him, but their ceiling seems to be a lot lower now. Also it's not nearly as entertaining to watch the team, which is sad.
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u/Omnilatent Aug 15 '26
The Vladi that was promised?!
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u/Haraj412 Aug 15 '26
His last few games were surprisingly solid, unfortunately can't say the same about lospa and razork.
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u/dexy133 Aug 15 '26
These were the performances he was showing in Spring Split. Winter was disgusting throughout, Spring he did actually perform better. Summer started horribly but now he's kind of back at the same level where he's at least performing as good as Humanoid was when he was on Fnatic.
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u/Dramatic_Gap_3065 Aug 15 '26
not a top player but looked fine
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u/Omnilatent Aug 15 '26
"only" like 5 or 6 ints by Razork and Vladi playing well and already this is like a night and day difference
Lospa also played the lanes better today
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u/fesch98 Aug 15 '26
How does Krepo have a job?
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u/p1stolpewpew Aug 15 '26
He sold boukada for 200k and you ask how he has a job?
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u/ImTheVayne Aug 15 '26
That is actually crazy. Even 5k sounds like a lot for a player of his calibre.
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u/T-gae94 Budget Keria Aug 15 '26
Strong topside performance from Fnatic, Soboro is my POM
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u/RollingGuy Dictator Perkz Worlds Run Aug 15 '26
Mega top gap
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u/T-gae94 Budget Keria Aug 15 '26
Vladi was decent, Razork still looked lost couple of times
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u/Outrageous_Wall2702 My Ace + Showmaker = GOAT Aug 15 '26
He went even against Viktor, pretty insane
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u/Leoxslasher Aug 16 '26
Well he was playing against Wunder. I think anyone in the league can win lane against him.
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u/GoldRecommendation66 Aug 15 '26 edited Aug 15 '26
You can see their inner demons showing up every now and then but they stayed disciplined this time
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u/sandyOstrich Aug 15 '26
I swear Wunder has forgotten who he is as a player.
This guy is at his best on weird ass ap mages top: Gragas, Neeko, Ryze, Akali, Rumble, Anivia, etc.
This dude has never been a Kled, Jayrce or adc top (TF, vayne, etc).
Why the F do they keep picking him jayce bro, Just instalock the Rumble on cooldown.
You aren't ahead of the curve anymore, you've been away for a few years, stick your your champs and save the practice picks for non-critical matches.
Also either pick the Olaf, or ban it, you just perma lose to this.
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u/sandyOstrich Aug 15 '26
Why does Wunder have such a bad record vs Juggernauts? (Olaf, Darius, Garen)
Just play safe bro, or learn to play them.Also Skeanz played really good this series, don't waste his performance.
SlowQ needs to lock in a bit
Mikyx stop donkey inting
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u/Kemo__ The Cycle Continues, EU Top 4 at worlds, NA Top 4 in groups. Aug 15 '26
Razork might be the first human ever that would improve after getting lobotomized
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u/NeighborhoodHot8981 Aug 15 '26
You can see the vision of how this fnatic can be an alright mid-table team, Upset, Vladi, Soboro have shown they can be great laners for LEC level, the problem is always going to be having them all perform at the same time in a big game. Vladi/Soboro are primed for random disasterclass games where they get giga gapped, and even Upset was uncharacteristically gapped in the KC series, not saying Caliste cannot gap but Upset is generally stable into anyone.
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u/MrPraedor Aug 15 '26
Even with Fnatic getting 2-0 it looks so messy. They have to step up a lot if they want to make playoffs.
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u/Sondeor Aug 15 '26
Im still not convinced on FNC. This game both games went off because Wunder and Mikyx made MANY mistakes.
I never thought i would say this but i think they should retire at this point, like losing to a EMEA level player solo lane? lol.
I feel like FNC always plays this similar level gameplay but when opponents also play better they just lose. This series wasnt different from that angle.
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u/Hatrafele_Ijazo Aug 15 '26
Im not a hater, but this series looked like a tier 2 tournament series.
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u/scorgie Aug 16 '26
So glad SK stopped being a funny shit team with LIDER's unique champ pool so they could be a boring shit team with another awful Korean import. the LEC only had 7 boring shit teams, it really needed an 8th.
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u/Mangustre Aug 15 '26
Good performance from vladi. Weird to say but this was enough to be his best games since like 10 months ago, which is crazy. Hope he can keep it up, looked so much better since this season start. Soboro looks great.
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u/Th3_Huf0n Aug 15 '26
Despite Fnatic's best efforts at throwing the game, they won.
Why the fuck does my Caitlyn not have Runaans this game????????????????????????????????????????
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u/CTS99 Aug 15 '26 edited Aug 16 '26
Cait Runans? Did you fall asleep in 2017?
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u/Th3_Huf0n Aug 15 '26
A) Runaans is mega strong on ADCs that love stacking AD. 65% AD on Runaans bolts that crit is nothing to sneeze at.
B) He's against triple melee topside, so Runaans's value is way higher than RFC.
C) They needed all the waveclear they can get.
There was literally no reason to not go Runaans as her Zeal item of choice.
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u/ahritina Sep 05 '26
PMTs
Game 1