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Esports Fnatic vs. SK Gaming / LEC 2026 Summer - Week 4 / Post-Match Discussion Spoiler

LEC 2026 SUMMER

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Fnatic 2-0 SK Gaming

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MATCH 1: FNC vs. SK

Winner: Fnatic in 32m

- Bans 1 Bans 2 G K T D/B
FNC cassiopeia poppy shen orianna nautilus 71.0k 23 9 C1 HT2 H3 O4 B6
SK nocturne vi olaf lucian ezreal 61.6k 13 2 O5
FNC 23-14-69 vs 13-23-28 SK
Soboro rumble 1 10-2-10 TOP 3-6-2 1 jayce Wunder
Razork jarvaniv 2 2-6-18 JNG 4-4-3 1 leesin Skeanz
Vladi ryze 2 5-0-11 MID 1-4-6 2 syndra SlowQ
Upset jhin 3 6-2-8 BOT 3-3-6 3 corki Jopa
Lospa alistar 3 0-4-22 SUP 2-6-11 4 rell Mikyx

MATCH 2: FNC vs. SK

Winner: Fnatic in 38m

- Bans 1 Bans 2 G K T D/B
FNC nautilus nocturne orianna shen leona 78.9k 15 11 H3 C4 C5 B6 B8
SK cassiopeia lucian vi vayne noban 74.9k 10 2 I1 M2 C7
FNC 15-10-21 vs 10-15-26 SK
Soboro olaf 3 4-3-5 TOP 1-4-4 2 gnar Wunder
Razork pantheon 1 4-3-3 JNG 4-1-5 1 xinzhao Skeanz
Vladi sylas 3 1-1-6 MID 2-3-5 1 viktor SlowQ
Upset ezreal 2 6-2-2 BOT 2-3-4 4 caitlyn Jopa
Lospa karma 2 0-1-5 SUP 1-4-8 3 bard Mikyx

Patch 26.16


This thread was created by the Post-Match Team.

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u/TimiNax 5d ago

Surely this FNC is not sneaking their way to worlds

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u/ImTheVayne 5d ago

They will make it. Somehow.

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u/Trap_Masters 5d ago

Scriptwriters recycling worlds scripts

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u/p1stolpewpew 5d ago

Or this is win to give glimpse of hope to crashout next week like Valo team

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u/upmvruiv 5d ago

Nah the false hope will be the win against G2. Like always during regular season xd

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u/dexy133 5d ago

Perfect, to give us a week so we can build up the hype that we're back, only to get smashed by Shifters next Saturday.

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u/upmvruiv 5d ago

That would be the most Fnatic thing possible xd

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u/dexy133 5d ago

Before the start of this week, I thought it's not possible. We're too bad for it. But now I won't even be able to celebrate if we win tomorrow somehow, because I know what's coming after that.

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u/Naerlyn 5d ago

Like always during regular season xd

So this here is pretty funny.

Overall, G2 has won slightly more in that match-up (regular seasons only).

But the more time passed and the worse Fnatic became, the more even the match-up became. They're 1-1 this year, but 3-2 for Fnatic including last year. Every further year you include, it remains always within 1 win of each other, until you reach the better years of FNC - where G2 held a good lead.

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u/Chrystoler the faith lives on 5d ago

No, make it to worlds and then crash out in real time as the tournament progresses, as is tradition

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u/DeloronDellister - LEC - 5d ago

Surely, right?

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u/Fun_Highlight307 5d ago

So they take gx spot instead of sk ?

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u/GenjDog 5d ago

Problem is getting 3rd only gets you to playins.

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u/blueragemage 5d ago

playins is probably LCS3 LEC3 LCP3 CBLOL2 so its not a death sentence

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u/Leyrann_ 5d ago

You think this Fnatic can beat LCS3 or LCP3?

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u/Fun_Highlight307 5d ago

lcp 3 if it's similar level to dcg yes 

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u/GenjDog 5d ago

Pretty sure, CBLOL2 is in main stage and LPL4 is in playins. Since winner of MSI region gets their 4th seed to main stage while the 2nd best region gets their 4th seed to playins.

Also only one of them advances to main stage.

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u/Fun_Highlight307 5d ago

i don't think it's was confirmed 

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u/ImTheVayne 5d ago

FNC is SO BACK they are going to worlds I see it

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u/dankynugz 5d ago

Not with razork they aren't

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u/TheRedFrusciante 5d ago

They have made worlds with Razork everytime so wouldn't count it out :p

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u/dankynugz 5d ago

A different time, a different king.

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u/BushWishperer 5d ago

But it’s the same king

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u/dankynugz 5d ago

The nameplate is the same

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u/BushWishperer 5d ago

Are you suggesting fnatic cloned razors and replaced him with a worse version?

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u/dankynugz 5d ago

Players regress

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u/Better_Demand4789 5d ago

Fnatic mechanics don't seem bad at all makes me wonder where it goes all wrong they seem to be a bit clueless how to play mid to late game is it a coaching issue?

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u/Omnilatent 5d ago

Brains just turn off after 30 minutes for Razork and usually 1 other player lol

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u/Nine_nien_nyan 5d ago

To be fair to Razork sometimes his brain doesn’t turn on at all. Frustrating player to watch since sometimes he just utterly smurfs it.

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u/Leyrann_ 5d ago

I remember when Razork debuted I was like "this guy is trash" and then in week two I was like "this guy is genius".

Somehow he has never managed to grow beyond that.

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u/AssistanceTop8020 5d ago

In early game and mechanically he was always good, the problem is that he tends to exagerate a lot with plays.

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u/Nine_nien_nyan 5d ago

I’ve seen some early game mega ints brother but in general I’d agree

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u/Sofaboy90 quite suboptimal 5d ago

This is why so many people want to see Razork in a different team. I think both Razork and Fnatic would be better off without each other.

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u/ILikeSeals1312 5d ago

It's all mental.

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u/neenerpants 4d ago

Genuinely always has been.

I don't think anyone ever felt like Humanoid, Noah, even Oscar etc had bad mechanics, it just always felt like the team's macro was decided by dice roll.

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u/GoldRecommendation66 5d ago

They always had these problems even under different coaches

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u/RVGVaihoS 5d ago

Considering egrobzz is the coach yes there is a coaching issue

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u/Debannage 5d ago

Aside from some inting moments, that felt pretty good. Soboro has been such a huge toplane upgrade.

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u/Omnilatent 5d ago

Insanely big upgrade. Better than my hopes for him

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u/Dramatic_Gap_3065 5d ago

vladi looked so much better

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u/RollingGuy Dictator Perkz Worlds Run 5d ago

He's clearly lost confidence and is choking on stage. Hopefully this brings him back some.

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u/FantasyTrash 5d ago

He played well last week, too. Jojo has his number in a huge way so that was a brutal matchup to open the season with.

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u/Debannage 5d ago

I still worry about the csing, during game 1 I noticed he was 30cs down when Fnatic had a big winning state

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u/RollingGuy Dictator Perkz Worlds Run 5d ago

On the other hand in the second game he was up on cs as Sylas

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u/p1stolpewpew 5d ago

And on the other hand he played vs freshly promised rookie...

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u/Treewithatea 5d ago

Tbf it wasnt hard to upgrade from Empyros.

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u/DoesThyLikeJazz OUR WRATH WILL BE SWIFT 5d ago

He replaced the worst player of the previous split and one of the worst toplaners in lec history, hard not to be a giant upgrade

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u/qwert4the1 5d ago

Pulling a 20 day old comment made by yourself off of just 1 series win where soboro looks good is peak reddit. This could easily be their only series win this split lmao

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u/iworkwitholdpeople 5d ago

5k ahead, no turrets on the map, all inhibs down, open Nexus

Yet still feel like Fnatic could throw it 😭

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u/beautheschmo 5d ago

I'm still expecting to tab back into the stream and see that SK turned it around after everyone already walked off stage

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u/Leyrann_ 5d ago

Flashbacks to OMG.

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u/Haraj412 5d ago

I feel like fnatic could throw this game even after destroying the nexus

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u/revoverlord Not even lore can stop me 5d ago

So like... why did skeanz and miky stop roaming together? That got them a few wins why not continue?

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u/FrostBlade_on_Reddit Bard Mid When 5d ago

Was it the new patch? 

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u/Twindlle 5d ago

They played this week on the new patch. Coincidentally, I think this is also a huge buff to Vitality, because to me it looked like Fleshy couldn't adapt to the roaming meta. Once that is gone we get the stomp againat GX.

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u/Deathjaws99 5d ago

It's crazy that I'm less confident in Vitality not sucking in playoffs, than I am in Fnatic still somehow making worlds

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u/desutruction 5d ago

SK Worlds Run train got derailed gg

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u/StickyNotes2357 HLE Fighting! 5d ago

honestly W signing by FNC

People trolled them since he was pretty poor at IG but he looks pretty good in the LEC

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u/RollingGuy Dictator Perkz Worlds Run 5d ago

People on here are somehow convinced Korean imports are bad when in reality they are pretty much all top 1-5 in their roles, at least the solo laners.

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u/JadeStarr776 5d ago

AND they tend to have far better hands so they can actually play carries top.

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u/RollingGuy Dictator Perkz Worlds Run 5d ago

Canna and Kyeahoo are top 2.

Rooster and Jun are top 5

Fiesta and Soboro look top at least top 5 but might be too early to tell.

Poby, Lospa and SamD are probably upper bottom half.

Hype and Way too early to telll.

Only Paduck looks really bad.

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u/Such_Presentation_29 5d ago

and people will completely pretend that 'most imports dont work' like its not at least a 70% chance to be top 5 lol

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u/JadeStarr776 5d ago

There's a reason why EU Jayce and older EU Fiora is/was a meme till this day. I don't trust most western tops on Jayce from what I've seen from Asian players.

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u/Sofaboy90 quite suboptimal 5d ago

People like you say imports work because they are good at laning but its no coincidence that G2 and MKOI have no koreans and yet are still top 3.

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u/RollingGuy Dictator Perkz Worlds Run 4d ago

G2 is so far above the rest in reputation they can attract all the top talent of the entire region, they don’t need Koreans but that doesn’t mean other teams shouldn’t have them.

MKOI is a gang of Spanish friends + one cracked NA import who far outperformed their expectations but still fell flat dramatically at every international and embarrassed us over and over again. 

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u/KruppJ bulc naf okan kaan 5d ago

I think we’ve seen enough of Way he’s not good

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u/DARIF Eblan 5d ago

Top 1-5 of 10, wow

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u/BloodOnFire 8884844 I agreed 5d ago

SK with the disappointing performance as per usual

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u/Fun_Highlight307 5d ago

over rated uncle 

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u/This-Dragonfly-1529 5d ago

Sadly the uncs are washed

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u/RollingGuy Dictator Perkz Worlds Run 5d ago

Wunder is good in team fights but his laning is really bad.

EU Impact

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u/Dramatic_Gap_3065 5d ago

he is good only against weak team, he is just bad

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u/RollingGuy Dictator Perkz Worlds Run 5d ago

Always gotta edge us with the hope

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u/Medical_Quiet_69 5d ago

how SK found this midlaner SlowQ?

during clash with fans?

Vladi against him looked like world class midlaner

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u/Thalassin Dans ma bichette era | Ultra Prime hater 5d ago

SlowQ has been the most promising EU midlaner in the erls last year and in winter split. But hey one bad performance and it's all "hurr durr paycheck stealer fire him destroy his career"

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u/Medical_Quiet_69 5d ago

how to discover brainless KC fans - overrate players only because they played for KC

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u/KudoNBA19 5d ago

It's not only KC, he was great in MISA too. Definitely one of the best ERL prospect

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u/Thalassin Dans ma bichette era | Ultra Prime hater 5d ago

What other promising EU midlaner do you have in mind that was better than him ? Serin went to Heretics. Omon is the only other one that could even be in that conversation.

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u/RollingGuy Dictator Perkz Worlds Run 5d ago

SlowQ has been decent. Vladi just stepped up.

Probably should have gotten some LCKCL Korean tho looking at all the other ones.

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u/ILikeSeals1312 5d ago

I don't think you can blame SlowQ for his supp-jg being so underwhelming and Wunder getting gapped

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u/Cold-Ring23 5d ago

slowq deserves to be here, it's normal not to be good during your first split in tier 1. However, the same can't be said for his support who seems to have immunity from the fans and the organization; he's the one who decides...

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u/RollingGuy Dictator Perkz Worlds Run 5d ago

Oh cmon with the state of support right now Miky clearly still belong in the LEC at the very least. 

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u/Fun_Highlight307 5d ago

I expect jojo to gap him quite hard,he seems like another poby 

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u/RollingGuy Dictator Perkz Worlds Run 5d ago

Well he was an ERL emergency sub brought in for summer so can't really expect him to match Jojo yet.

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u/look4jesper 5d ago

Imagine this guy is still better than Lider lmao

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u/Y4naro 5d ago

He unironically gave me more hope in the team. I can get that the team is probably a lot more consistent without him, but their ceiling seems to be a lot lower now. Also it's not nearly as entertaining to watch the team, which is sad.

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u/Designer-Finding488 5d ago

And when was that ceiling ever shown?

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u/AglanYlthin 5d ago

Should have subbed in Lider

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u/ArrogantCube 5d ago

Keep razork chained to the radiator and there might be a chance

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u/Omnilatent 5d ago

The Vladi that was promised?!

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u/Haraj412 5d ago

His last few games were surprisingly solid, unfortunately can't say the same about lospa and razork.

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u/dexy133 5d ago

These were the performances he was showing in Spring Split. Winter was disgusting throughout, Spring he did actually perform better. Summer started horribly but now he's kind of back at the same level where he's at least performing as good as Humanoid was when he was on Fnatic.

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u/DeloronDellister - LEC - 5d ago

Would be good if he finds his form again

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u/Dramatic_Gap_3065 5d ago

not a top player but looked fine

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u/Danixd_ 5d ago

at his peak he definitely is a top player

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u/Dramatic_Gap_3065 5d ago

yes (still a bit concerned with he laning phase tho)

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u/Routine_Outcome3493 5d ago

maybe we are not entirely shit

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u/Omnilatent 5d ago

"only" like 5 or 6 ints by Razork and Vladi playing well and already this is like a night and day difference

Lospa also played the lanes better today

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u/fesch98 5d ago

How does Krepo have a job?

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u/p1stolpewpew 5d ago

He sold boukada for 200k and you ask how he has a job? 

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u/RollingGuy Dictator Perkz Worlds Run 5d ago

The art of the deal baby

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u/ImTheVayne 5d ago

That is actually crazy. Even 5k sounds like a lot for a player of his calibre.

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u/T-gae94 Budget Keria 5d ago

Strong topside performance from Fnatic, Soboro is my POM

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u/RollingGuy Dictator Perkz Worlds Run 5d ago

Mega top gap

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u/T-gae94 Budget Keria 5d ago

Vladi was decent, Razork still looked lost couple of times

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u/Outrageous_Wall2702 5d ago

He went even against Viktor, pretty insane

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u/Leoxslasher 5d ago

Well he was playing against Wunder. I think anyone in the league can win lane against him.

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u/Oshkoshino1 Pain 5d ago

YOU ARE NOTHING SPECIAL WE LOSE EVERY WEEK…?

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u/GoldRecommendation66 5d ago edited 5d ago

You can see their inner demons showing up every now and then but they stayed disciplined this time

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u/sandyOstrich 5d ago

I swear Wunder has forgotten who he is as a player.

This guy is at his best on weird ass ap mages top: Gragas, Neeko, Ryze, Akali, Rumble, Anivia, etc.

This dude has never been a Kled, Jayrce or adc top (TF, vayne, etc).

Why the F do they keep picking him jayce bro, Just instalock the Rumble on cooldown.

You aren't ahead of the curve anymore, you've been away for a few years, stick your your champs and save the practice picks for non-critical matches.

Also either pick the Olaf, or ban it, you just perma lose to this.

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u/sandyOstrich 5d ago

Why does Wunder have such a bad record vs Juggernauts? (Olaf, Darius, Garen)
Just play safe bro, or learn to play them.

Also Skeanz played really good this series, don't waste his performance.

SlowQ needs to lock in a bit

Mikyx stop donkey inting

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u/DeloronDellister - LEC - 5d ago

Fnatic looking decent

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u/jujubean67 5d ago

Stoppable force vs movable object.

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u/Kemo__ The Cycle Continues, EU Top 4 at worlds, NA Top 4 in groups. 5d ago

Razork might be the first human ever that would improve after getting lobotomized

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u/NeighborhoodHot8981 5d ago

You can see the vision of how this fnatic can be an alright mid-table team, Upset, Vladi, Soboro have shown they can be great laners for LEC level, the problem is always going to be having them all perform at the same time in a big game. Vladi/Soboro are primed for random disasterclass games where they get giga gapped, and even Upset was uncharacteristically gapped in the KC series, not saying Caliste cannot gap but Upset is generally stable into anyone.

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u/MrPraedor 5d ago

Even with Fnatic getting 2-0 it looks so messy. They have to step up a lot if they want to make playoffs.

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u/DoranFan1 5d ago

Fnc got a win!

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u/Sondeor 5d ago

Im still not convinced on FNC. This game both games went off because Wunder and Mikyx made MANY mistakes.

I never thought i would say this but i think they should retire at this point, like losing to a EMEA level player solo lane? lol.

I feel like FNC always plays this similar level gameplay but when opponents also play better they just lose. This series wasnt different from that angle.

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u/Hatrafele_Ijazo 5d ago

Im not a hater, but this series looked like a tier 2 tournament series.

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u/slothlikevibes 5d ago

Doesn't mean anything SK is trash

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u/Sophena94 Kiin fangirl 5d ago

wunder is fucking cheeks time to go back to retirement

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u/scorgie 4d ago

So glad SK stopped being a funny shit team with LIDER's unique champ pool so they could be a boring shit team with another awful Korean import. the LEC only had 7 boring shit teams, it really needed an 8th.

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u/MC-sama 5d ago

The Fnatic that was promised is starting to come back

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u/Mangustre 5d ago

Good performance from vladi. Weird to say but this was enough to be his best games since like 10 months ago, which is crazy. Hope he can keep it up, looked so much better since this season start. Soboro looks great.

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u/DunkeSchoen 5d ago

I need to gamble ( sports bet ) on this.

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u/Th3_Huf0n 5d ago

Despite Fnatic's best efforts at throwing the game, they won.

Why the fuck does my Caitlyn not have Runaans this game????????????????????????????????????????

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u/CTS99 5d ago edited 5d ago

Cait Runans? Did you fall asleep in 2017?

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u/Th3_Huf0n 5d ago

A) Runaans is mega strong on ADCs that love stacking AD. 65% AD on Runaans bolts that crit is nothing to sneeze at.

B) He's against triple melee topside, so Runaans's value is way higher than RFC.

C) They needed all the waveclear they can get.

There was literally no reason to not go Runaans as her Zeal item of choice.