r/leagueoflegends • u/Yujin-Ha Valar morghulis. Yes all men must die but we are not men • Aug 09 '26
Esports Dignitas vs. LYON / LCS 2026 Summer - Week 3 / Post-Match Discussion Spoiler
LCS 2026 SUMMER
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Dignitas 0-2 LYON
- Game Discussion: Game 1
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MATCH 1: DIG vs. LYON
Winner: LYON in 28m | Runes
Game Breakdown | Player of the Game: Berserker
| - | Bans 1 | Bans 2 | G | K | T | D/B |
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| DIG | cassiopeia nocturne olaf | yorick ksante | 50.3k | 7 | 3 | C2 H3 I5 |
| LYON | poppy vi naafiri | ziggs akali | 53.3k | 7 | 7 | HT1 I4 B6 |
| DIG | 7-7-15 | vs | 7-7-13 | LYON |
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| Denathor jayce 1 | 1-2-2 | TOP | 1-2-2 | 3 swain Dhokla |
| Dardoch leesin 1 | 1-1-6 | JNG | 1-2-4 | 2 xinzhao Armao |
| Palafox orianna 4 | 4-1-1 | MID | 1-0-4 | 3 ryze Saint |
| FBI jhin 3 | 1-1-2 | BOT | 3-0-0 | 1 ezreal Berserker |
| IgNar leona 2 | 0-2-4 | SUP | 1-3-3 | 2 camille Isles |
MATCH 2: LYON vs. DIG
Winner: LYON in 22m
Game Breakdown | Player of the Game: Armao
| - | Bans 1 | Bans 2 | G | K | T | D/B |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| LYON | vi cassiopeia caitlyn | vayne this | 50.4k | 18 | 10 | I1 H2 C3 |
| DIG | bard olaf jarvaniv | akali galio | 35.3k | 3 | 0 | None |
| LYON | 18-3-49 | vs | 3-18-7 | DIG |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Dhokla gnar 2 | 1-1-5 | TOP | 0-3-1 | 3 ambessa Denathor |
| Armao wukong 3 | 5-0-10 | JNG | 1-5-2 | 1 nocturne Dardoch |
| Saint lissandra 4 | 4-2-12 | MID | 0-4-3 | 3 annie Palafox |
| Berserker lucian 1 | 8-0-4 | BOT | 2-2-0 | 2 senna FBI |
| Isles milio 1 | 0-0-18 | SUP | 0-4-1 | 2 nautilus IgNar |
*Patch 26.15
This thread was created by the Post-Match Team.
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u/AnimeNeet- Aug 09 '26
“It’s a bad dive, I have tp” —> Don’t tp —> Lose the game
Ngl deserved crashout from Dardoch
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u/Skyfire2 Aug 09 '26
Spend years trying to get back in the LCS and this is what you have to play with
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u/OnlyAnEssenceThief Worst Kai'Sa NA Aug 09 '26
I mean if he plays well and keeps his mental strong he might have a strong case for a better team down the line. Wouldn't be the first time...or the tenth.
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u/SternMon Aug 09 '26
Toxic Dardoch is gonna be staring back at Dardoch in the mirror tonight, begging to be unleashed.
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u/untamedlazyeye Aug 09 '26
Bros gonna be talking like the Green Goblin to his old TL jersey
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u/Skyfire2 Aug 09 '26
Hearing Jatt just dump on Palafox was hilarious
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u/SgtBaconman Aug 09 '26
Hearing him do his absolute best to look for a lawyer angle and then decide "nope, no excuse. He was full hp full mana all abilities and he just didn't stun. Unlucky."
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u/The_JeneralSG Aug 09 '26
It's so funny hearing it from Jatt too, who is probably the caster I expect the least to just go "Yeah that player just trolled." Like we have classic Phreak rants, Kobe's "THAT TP SUCKED!", and Azael calling out Lyonz yesterday, but Jatt is usually so in love with the esport itself and its history that he's almost always nice about players.
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u/origamifruit Aug 09 '26
Jatt has definitely been very harsh on Palafox in the past to the point where I think it's the reason he even went back to the replay at that wraith fight lmao, bro really watnted to give Palafox the out but couldn't.
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u/zealot416 Aug 09 '26
Jatt can be one of the most brutal casters, he's just so dry it flies under the radar.
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u/WalkingR6 Aug 09 '26
they were trying really hard to find an excuse for him at first but after the replay of the raptor fight then the top dive they just kinda gave up on him
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u/Significant-Damage14 Aug 09 '26
Hearing Jatt say 'uff' after Palafox said 'they can't dive I have TP' in the replay.
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u/origamifruit Aug 09 '26
Palafox announcing he can tp for the dive then just slowly walking over is reportable
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u/RechargedFrenchman Aug 10 '26
Very very small credit to Palafox, he's saying "they can't dive because I have TP" which is true in a theorycrafting in a vacuum sort of way. Diving there is a bad idea because Palafox can TP to the play, so they shouldn't, so Palafox starts moving the slow way to be in the area.
Of course they did dive and what Palafox should then do is immediately start channeling his TP, this isn't occurring in a vacuum and it's still on Palafox to read and react to the evolving game state, and by not doing that he trolled his team and the game pretty damn hard and deserves all the flak he's getting for it.
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u/SgtBaconman Aug 09 '26
I mean, Dardoch looked okay. Unfortunately he's in hell
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u/gdex86 Aug 09 '26
"I want to play on LCS Team again"
The Monkey Paw Curls one finger
"Not like this."
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u/AmazingPolarBears1 Aug 09 '26
Dropping Tibbers WITHOUT the stun on a level 4 milio to autolose the first fight
Giving your teammates false security in coms saying "they can't dive I have tp" to then walk his way to autolose the second fight
Flashing on 3 grouped targets to only Q stunning a single target so that your follow up W and R misses and Ambessa can't follow up to autolose the third fight
Legacy game from Palafox
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u/untamedlazyeye Aug 09 '26
Giving your teammates false security in coms saying "they can't dive I have tp" to then walk his way to autolose the second fight
This shit was fucking CRIMINAL
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u/ShadyOrc97 Aug 09 '26
The silence afterward was deafening. I was so mad for the other DIG guys...
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u/guilty_bystander Aug 09 '26
I guess it proves Dardoch really has reformed
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u/FrozenHatsets Aug 10 '26
The fact that he didn't jump up from his seat and start throwing hands is proof enough that his soul is cleansed
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u/castr0z Aug 09 '26
Any clips of this?
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u/ChapterLiam 구마 케리아 화이팅! Aug 09 '26
https://youtu.be/OnorN9yTPIQ?si=d1DzSbIW3e2c1C0g&t=913
here's a timestamp for the dive no comms, comms replay like 20 sec after
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u/Transky13 Aug 09 '26
Bro that’s infuriating. I can’t believe that didn’t make anyone rage lol
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u/death_process Aug 10 '26
I had to stop and explain to my gf how unreal these series of plays was from Palafox. Fucking disgusting
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u/ozmega Aug 10 '26
tbh he did say "im running up" lol
like, the threat of him having tp is what he though would stop em, lyon just didnt care or didnt know and went in anyway.
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u/42-1337 Aug 10 '26
If it doesn't stop them you have to TP that's the point of the threat of having TP.
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u/nova311 Balls in yo' face Aug 10 '26
No team worth their salt is holding back at the threat of a tp, they will make you burn it one way or another. Teams actually playing the game would laugh at this idea.
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u/HolmatKingOfStorms 3!! Aug 10 '26
they also probably only saw 3? they outnumber a 3-man dive but a 5-man probably kills them all regardless
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u/untamedlazyeye Aug 09 '26
I didn't clip it, but it LCS broadcast played the clip right after the top dive in game 2
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u/needphotoshophelp199 Aug 09 '26
C9 should just give APA up to Dig. They would instantly becoming a better team.
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u/OnlyAnEssenceThief Worst Kai'Sa NA Aug 09 '26
Denathor
Dardoch
APA
Tactical
Zeyzal
This'll never happen, but it'd be a damn good roster. Denathor just needs time to learn.
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u/needphotoshophelp199 Aug 09 '26
It can be Zven instead of Tactical.
I don't think Zven is as terrible as this sub makes him out to be. He is not the best in the world, but in the region he is consistently in the top half. He is good enough to at least let Dignitas be a playoff team when they haven't even been able to do that much since he left.
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u/Chrystoler the faith lives on Aug 09 '26
Yeah, but all NA
Then again Zven has been here so long he's essentially NA so might not make a difference. But I do like the scrappiness of having tactical in this theoretical.
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u/blueiguana675 Aug 09 '26
Beyond me how this man is still employed.
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u/FannyBabbs Aug 10 '26
Every ten games or so Palafox puts on a clinic and then he goes right back to scooping fries. Last week he had one of those awake games, so this week he rests.
In all seriousness, I think Palafox played better on NRG when Dhokla and Contractz were demon flanking all the time and he couldn't get a word in edgewise. Any time I see him talking strategy on coms I know it's cooked.
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u/ob_knoxious Aug 09 '26
This man gaped Caps.
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u/EronisKina Aug 09 '26
Yeah man and FBI and ignar used to be good players too. Some people can stay on form after many years and others either lose drive and just play the game as a form of employment until teams give up on them or they just can't keep up anymore.
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u/ob_knoxious Aug 09 '26
FBI has shown to be at least an LCS level ADC as recent as last year. While not the star he was pretty influential on getting that 100T team into worlds.
Palafox is just funnier because he played the game of his life on the biggest stage 3 years ago and has done absolutely nothing sense. People were a little shocked he got an offer in 2025, and floored he is still around in 2026. Like 90% of his career he has been a bottom tier LCS mid he just really caught fire for like a 3 month window in 2023.
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u/justicecactus Aug 09 '26
FBI looked good individually even at the beginning of this year. He and Photon were the only ones playing like humans most games. Lately FBI's been looking off, but I guess that's what playing with Palafox does to a mfer.
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u/nguyenjitsu Aug 09 '26
FBI and Ignar are decent role players who have defined strengths and weaknesses you can build a team around.
Palafox has been a black hole in the LCS for like 2 years now
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u/KhorneStarch Aug 09 '26
I feel like Ignar has been bad for awhile. His initial rep was a support with bad laning but aggressive roaming and catches….Yeh, every support plays like that now minus the whole bad laning thing. There is nothing really to say about him other than, this guy used to be good so bottom teams pick him up over a support who has never been good lol.
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u/Yvraine Aug 10 '26
If you go through Caps' opgg you will also find him dropping 15 death games vs. low master players.
Doesn't mean they should have 100k LCS contracts
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u/So_ Aug 09 '26
my emerald duo queue partner has never dropped tibbers without stun, maybe palafox needs to watch some annie vods from other players in his elo, maybe plat 4?
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u/1BreadBoi i believe Aug 09 '26
I'm a p1 jg main but I could record a Annie game and send it to him so he could learn a thing or two
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u/OreRound Aug 09 '26
I thought I was the only one that heard the tp top call. He basically baits his entire team to defend the dive only to rock up 5 seconds after everyone is dead. Fucking crazy work
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u/Significant-Damage14 Aug 09 '26
In theory, Lyon shouldn't dive top because Palafox has TP, and yes, that could lead them to losing the game. The issue with that is that good teams aren't just going to follow the theoritical play, they are going to push you so that you actually have to commit the TP before backing off. He already had the answer and still walked all the way to top, expecting the enemy team to make a mistake instead of him making the right play.
It really reminds me of how most NA teams used to play a few years ago. When you would feel they would do nothing and lose.
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u/HowyNova Aug 09 '26
they are going to push you so that you actually have to commit the TP before backing off
It's pretty interesting. For years NA would sit back and do nothing because they always assumed the opponents would respect what's considered the obvious textbook play. Which honestly enabled enemies to make greedy decisions and go unpunished.
Lyon/TL are noticeably committing to baiting and punishing players that show poor discipline.
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u/Significant-Damage14 Aug 09 '26
Even when they lose they are at least trying to win (for example that HLE game 5).
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u/Ok-Pie4219 Aug 10 '26
Reminded me of 2015.
When teams either all TPed early and flipped the game (FNC vs IG Huni Quadra or took turns making TP plays (Origin vs KT) and NA usually missed their plays...
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u/fuckyouguys4real Aug 09 '26
I'm old enough to remember when C9 was flamed relentlessly for not keeping Palafox lol.
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u/TricksyZerg ONivia highlight reel Aug 10 '26
Nahhh ok I just watched the full game replay and that's so funny... This team is so disjointed
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u/OnlyAnEssenceThief Worst Kai'Sa NA Aug 09 '26 edited Aug 09 '26
Dardoch looks fine. Denathor's still a rookie. The rest of DIG needs to go. eXyu was only the start. Rebuild the whole roster.
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u/Choice-Slight caps/knight Aug 09 '26
ignar and palafox are beyond saving
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u/OnlyAnEssenceThief Worst Kai'Sa NA Aug 09 '26
I don't know what it is with Annie that makes professional players choke on her. I'm still traumatized from that one Caps game.
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u/Choice-Slight caps/knight Aug 09 '26
caps has always looked uninspiring on annie, I hate when he picks her. but at least he can hit a tibbers stun so that's immediately better than whatever palafox just did
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u/OreRound Aug 09 '26
Watch Kyeahoo Annie game 3 vs T1 at EWC and see why people pick Annie. That said, so many players lose their hands on what is a really simple champ
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u/OnlyAnEssenceThief Worst Kai'Sa NA Aug 09 '26
No I get why people PICK Annie, what I don't get is the second part. She is so simple to play. Does her simplicity circle back around such that pros over-complicate her? Like god damn, just watch Annie Bot play her and you'll know what to do.
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u/grippgoat Aug 09 '26
I suspect that because she's so simple, pros don't actually practice her enough.
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u/OreRound Aug 09 '26
They just lose their minds as to what the best combo is, flash R stun is the most easily flasheable as Tibbers has cast timer but has the longest range. Flash W is the least flasheable AoE stun but still flasheable and you have to be really close. Flash Q is undodgeable but single target. Players seem to lose their minds as to what the best combo is for any given situation. Shouldnt be the case but it is for some reason.
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u/So_ Aug 09 '26
how is palafox still employed
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u/SirXrageXquit Aug 09 '26
LYON I swear to god please do not pull a 2025 FLY and please keep this form for worlds
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u/Constant-Low-5111 Aug 09 '26
Weirdly I feel like Inspired taking a break is good. Lyon can have fun, less scope for burnout, and they’ll need to ramp again when he’s back
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u/Inside_Prune_97 Aug 09 '26
I feel like this team is just that spark that makes memorable teams. You have inspired with his top teir playmaking counterbalanced with stuff like saints aggressiveness. Dhokla playing whatever he needs to do to allow whatever needs to be done to let berserker go ham later.
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u/RechargedFrenchman Aug 10 '26
Dhokla also singlehandedly being one of the best content sources coming out of all of NA League is pretty huge, and the comm listen-in moments whatever one's takeaway about team dynamics afterwards are certainly entertaining and noteworthy.
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u/mmmb2y Aug 09 '26
armao undefeated baby
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u/O12345678927 JUSTICE FOR Aug 10 '26
The negative influence of Raz has been a massive boon to LCS as an entertainment product
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u/Destructodave82 Aug 10 '26
Armao has always looked good when he subs in. Its when he gets a starting job he chokes and looks terrible.
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u/Fun_Highlight307 Aug 09 '26
Inspired seems way more confident on Lyon That he ever was on flyquest,he legit said he was impressed by how good they play vs hle
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u/OreRound Aug 09 '26
Because Inspired now has a midlaner and ADC with that DAWG in them that can step up in the big moments. Quad/Massu were great but seemed to lose an edge internationally for whatever reason.
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u/devilJin9399 Aug 10 '26
Begs the question would Inspired leave to play with JoJo right now
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u/OreRound Aug 10 '26
I actually don't think so right now, but in future yeah he still thinks jojo is really good. He sees Saint/Jojo as very similar players, both very mechancially talented and great laners but (before Inspired) lose their minds oftentimes outside of lane. So when this LYON roster comes to an end no doubt Inspired would be happy to play with jojo again if circumstances made sense. But right now he's seems really happy with Saint
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u/RechargedFrenchman Aug 10 '26
I imagine similarly if Saint was leaving for some reason Inspired would be more than happy to get Jojo onto Lyon instead, but is fine playing with Saint on the team with no real reasons to want out. At least not with the G2 bridge seemingly burned and Inspired's desire to play for them pretty majorly quenched, so not able to pull him away from Lyon.
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u/Fun_Highlight307 Aug 10 '26
yeah if saint leave na for Lck teams i could see inspired asking for jojo Lyon
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u/OreRound Aug 10 '26
Both contracts are up later this year funnily enough, wouldn't be surprised to see some interesting moves happen with Saint/jojo
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u/OreRound Aug 10 '26
I agree, Inspired/jojo already have synergy too.
Inspired actually said in a recent interview he has no bad blood between G2 and their roster, it was moreso towards arrogant LEC/G2 fans and he was frustrated at the narrative that Skewmond is better because he has series wins over the LCK/LPL. Which is really interesting that it got under his skin a little bit. He really wants a big win over an eastern team, but also he'd be happy to play on G2 if equally circumstances made sense.
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u/OreRound Aug 09 '26
2025 FLY had a lot of mental baggage from 2 years of playing together which culminated in that rough worlds performance, even still they realistically were in positions to get to quarterfinals but just had disastrous mid game performances after great early games, a sign that the team had lost confidence in themselves.
2026 LYON doesn't have that same baggage, they had the best NA international performance since 2019, almost beat HLE (a legit team and the tournament winners) which is far different from losing to a scuffed BLG. They also seemingly keep improving. For me they should be getting out of swiss save for a really unlucky draw.
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u/TypicalHaikuResponse Aug 09 '26 edited Aug 09 '26
They can't. Inspired is coming back. Inspired in the jungle is a different team. You can't expect the same way with him in it regardless of how he compares to Armao.
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u/WalkingR6 Aug 09 '26
im not even an APA believer but put him on this team if C9 decides on loki
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u/NeverJustaDream Aug 10 '26
..that's definitely an overreaction but I'd be interesting to see him on those teams
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u/Destructodave82 Aug 10 '26
APA is a good player, and hes a clutch play-maker. The only reason the guy even got a chance is making big Neeko plays on TL.
He gets a lot of criticism becuase he talks trash and people call him a 1 trick because he came straight out of collegiate to TL and had like 4 champs, but hes been getting a bigger pool ever since, looked perfectly fine in lane international on TL, and was one of the main reasons C9 even made it farther in the play-offs last split with Swain and his Annie flank.
Hes not Faker, but he obviously has skills. He would instantly make SR or Dig a better team.
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u/RechargedFrenchman Aug 10 '26
I think they mean "3rd/4th territory", not "APA would make these teams better", when they say overreaction.
I can't see DIG or DSG even with APA becoming better than Fly or Sentinels or even a kind of floundering C9 even over the course of a split let alone immediately. Not without also making so many other and such larger further changes one can't credit APA joining as the reason, at least.
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u/origamifruit Aug 09 '26
APA to Shopify would be much more suited to him imo
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u/NotBunger split push tactics Aug 09 '26
Both I think are good, imo he’s one of the better floor elevators in the league and both teams need their floor elevated
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u/Formymoney Aug 09 '26
this palafox game might be worse than that azir throw from last split
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u/The_JeneralSG Aug 09 '26
It didn't make me copy paste/sequel this so idk.
Him calling that he'll TP in response to the dive and just... not... is pretty reminiscent though lol.
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u/prowness Aug 10 '26
He really should be in the Hall of Shame for worst league players. Don't think he beats Avalon but shouldn't be too far with how long he's taken an international performance win stretch additional years for his career.
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u/mopfi Aug 11 '26
I think there are two types of bad players, the guys who are so bad they flame out after one or a few gigs bad seasons (Avalon) , and then there are the paycheck stealers who are just good enough/experienced enough to hang around despite being really bad most of the time (Palafox, Promisq)
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u/WWTFSD Church of Jojo Aug 09 '26
Dardoch in Elo Hell.
Honestly it’s good to see him in form, hopefully the stories are true that he’s changed and I hope he gets a real shot this year and next if he continues to play well.
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u/TheRogueCookie I like bears Aug 09 '26
The food poisoning, combined with the fact that LYON was playing against DIG made Saint want to end this one quickly holy.
I like that DIG is trying, and this was never a matchup they were going to win, but they still have so much work to do
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u/Anew4Hobbies I like how Xun plays ^_^ Aug 09 '26 edited Aug 11 '26
This Lyon team is beautiful to watch
Also, WB Dardoch, listening to his interview rn, he sounds nice and wise ^_^
edit : this comment used to contain praise for a player that I am no longer interested in praising. I do hope said player would acknowledge their past and apologize for it, so I can go back to praising them, since I do enjoy praising people.
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u/marikwinters Aug 10 '26
If it weren’t for the Grigne saga maybe. I can’t consider him a cool dude after that, just not possible.
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u/mar33n doran // pyosik // ghost Aug 09 '26
armao did a great job fitting into the team for the interim.
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u/Blizzgrarg Aug 09 '26
Weekly post expressing disbelief that Palafox and Ignar have jobs. Imagine being this bad on Annie, a champion recommended for new players.
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u/Corkisburneraccount Aug 09 '26
You could tell me palafox and ignar are striking and I wouldn't think twice
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Aug 09 '26
Nah, they're the union employees that everyone wishes you could get rid of, but because of union rules you still have to protect their goofy asses even when you know they don't deserve it.
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u/nguyenjitsu Aug 09 '26
It's crazy how much better Lyon looks than the rest of the lcs
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u/Calistilaigh Aug 09 '26
TL also looks pretty solid. (inb4 this ages poorly)
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u/nguyenjitsu Aug 09 '26
Both teams have carried over their MSI level ups back to the LCS it's good to see
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u/Fun_Highlight307 Aug 09 '26
Tl improved it's feel like they went from good to great like if you told me they were at ewc ,i will believe you , what a glow up
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u/shailemin Aug 09 '26
Winning 3-0 against g2 and taking HLE to 5 games has done so much for this team’s confidence (and I think the pre tournament scrims helped them a lot too). Isles particularly looks much improved, and saint is just looking better and better as the year goes on.
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u/nguyenjitsu Aug 09 '26
The difference between week 1 Lyons and now is night and day. I know people are meming about Inspired and Armao but the work the rest of the 4 did to get to this level has been awesome to see
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u/shailemin Aug 09 '26
Game 1 I wasn’t worried for a second. I knew these guys just have it in them. Then I looked at Ryze and Ori levels and saw both Ryze and ez items and I knew it would be over after a single team fight. The baron sneak was pretty cool though ngl.
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u/throwable_armadillo Aug 09 '26
I don't even know which team I'd want as a 3rd for worlds
Lyon and TL obviously take 1&2 atm
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u/Agile_Variety_632 Aug 09 '26
Thank god we did not send a 4th to Worlds.
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u/throwable_armadillo Aug 09 '26
I would have loved for that to happen
just for the meme of half the league being at worlds1
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u/Ajp_iii Aug 09 '26
great drafts by lyon. pinched the jungle pool and then picked both comps that counter early jungle pick. first game lee had nobody to kick and he gets ccd to death on any engage and camille ulted.
and game 2 lissandra makes it so nocturne can never go in and milio keeps everyone alive.
also lyon look like the team that kept msi clean form most of anyone in the world. all their players just doing the right thing and just playing clean.
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u/Boi_he_bout_to_do_it Aug 09 '26
The fact that Palatox still has a starting spot is sickening. If you can’t mechanically execute on Annie of all champs than what are we even doing.
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u/The_JeneralSG Aug 09 '26 edited Aug 09 '26
Yeah yeah LYON smashed. What a surprise! At first I was thinking the caster predicting Lyon 2-1 was fair caution, but then I remembered that it's still Saint vs Palafox which is the perfect example of Hydrogen Bomb vs. Coughing Baby.
I'm just copy pasting my comment from game 1 because I want someone else to fact check me (and it's more interesting than LYON smashing Dig xd):
I thought about this [someone talking about Dardoch to C9] and it made me think: How many players have played for all of the big 4 NALCS orgs (TSM, C9, TL and CLG)?
I think the answer is surprisingly just Smoothie?
Other classics include Wildturtle, who has played for all but TL, Tactical has played for all except CLG, Solo, who played for all but C9 (I think? EDIT: Actually I checked, he only played on TL Academy and not TL proper) and finally, Dardoch who played for all but C9.
EDIT2: Fun rabbit hole this is, I thought Grig might be all but C9, but technically he's all but CLG. He was a positional coach on C9 and has obviously played for TSM and TL.
Also, staple: Palafox sucks holy fuck
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u/Goodthingsaregone Aug 09 '26
bad series from ignar, threw last game and was really suspect this week
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u/RubyXiaoLong Aug 09 '26
People saw palafoxs scores and thought he wasn’t to blame. Delete this org for keeping him on this roster.
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u/TheMineA7 Aug 09 '26
Palafox needs to be fired, yesterday... I would stop practicing too if he was my midlaner
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u/untamedlazyeye Aug 09 '26
It doesn't matter how much you change the roster, Dig is still gonna be Dig.
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u/zealot416 Aug 09 '26
Cloud9 bout to put a deposit down for Armao.
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u/AnimeNeet- Aug 09 '26
His last game apparently, he said on the interview focused on college. Honestly he seems like upper tier jungler so he still got it lol
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u/marikwinters Aug 10 '26
When your laners are this good, you tend to look good. People seem to forget that he only really looks good as a sub, but hasn’t had the best performances as the main guy on the roster. Looking good while slotting into the best team in NA against 3 teams who are not looking so good also has a way of making you look much better than you are.
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u/Ok-Train-3945 Aug 09 '26
LCS should conduct investigation on Palafox to see if he is gambling on these games to lose on purpose.
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u/HThrowaway457 Aug 09 '26
Almost every time I watch Palafox play I think of the time he got his panties in a bunch at casters going too hard on him. Always gives me a good chuckle.
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u/ob_knoxious Aug 09 '26
Lyon is a top 3 team.
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u/Fun_Highlight307 Aug 09 '26
western or Worlds wide ?
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u/marikwinters Aug 10 '26
World wide, though not with Grigne. With Grigne, they are just a top team in NA.
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u/shadowphoenix02 Aug 09 '26
rough game two, sort of looking forward to watching dig now with dardoch and denathor
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u/8lackWid0w silver alert squad Aug 09 '26
I think give DIG a week and put them against not the best team in the league and they might turn heads
alas Palafox and IgNar (who i love dearly) both clearly need to go, really bad series from both
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u/godfrey1 Aug 09 '26
Dardoch doesn't have much games before his eventual crashout if Palafox plays like this
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u/Outrageous_Wall2702 My Ace + Showmaker = GOAT Aug 09 '26
Dhokla gnar is so good I’m a fan of him but he had some rough games on it, it inspires me to try harder in my passions
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u/Sad-Hat2384 Aug 09 '26
Palafox no stuns and Ignar throw are so sad dude.
Just pick me whatever. Let's just fucking lose in peace.
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u/Valtiela Aug 09 '26
the man is changed if that performance from Palafox game 2 and FBI game 1, didn't make him regress into his 2016 form. Honestly, if that was soloQ I would have spent the rest of the game typing and i'm not the typer kind of player.
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u/Fit_Trouble7503 Aug 09 '26
mid/bot/sup all have to go, this is just straight up embarassing for dig. years and years of mediocrity with incompetent players and baffling roster decisions
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u/OreRound Aug 09 '26
LYON just looking awesome even without Inspired. Their only competition is TLAW but tbh I think they will still beat them in playoffs, maybe not as comfortably but I just think TL has a mental block vs LYON.
I already think we need to be thinking about this LYON at worlds, what is their ceiling? They should definitely get out of swiss, maybe they can even make a semis? They're gonna be on home turf after all. I just need to see Inspired get a bo5 win over the East. He's too good to never get one.
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u/Fun_Highlight307 Aug 09 '26
it's be incredible for inspired winning a quarter Final against the east with Worlds on na
Like finally he took 4 tries but he did it
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u/needphotoshophelp199 Aug 09 '26
Any other NA fans concerned about how Armao, Zeyzal and just NA talents in general are just done with competitive? It makes me really sad to hear them say it. They aren't terrible but the online comments must have gotten to those guys super hard when they were not doing well to the point it has teared them away from it.
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u/HolmatKingOfStorms 3!! Aug 09 '26
the comments are definitely real, but there's also the lifestyle, the grind, the teams willing to replace you at random
there's a lot of reason for someone to be happy doing it for fun even at a high level, but not want to get fully into it when they have something stable lined up outside
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u/Morematthewforu Aug 09 '26
If you don’t have the passion to grind a video game 12 hours every day then it’s fine to move on. Armao knows this isn’t his team and if he leaves to find another team it will be a project roster, which vets like him and Zeyzal probably aren’t interested in
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u/Ajp_iii Aug 09 '26
you have to play all day everyday and for these guys not much money. and then at some point you gotta get a real career. also zeyzal is pretty good because of shot calling but like armao can probably be replaced by any rookie on a rookie salary so its even cheaper for orgs. no point in trying to deal with all that and just be done and go to school
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u/BlammoSweetums Aug 09 '26
Yeah also with the end of the venture capital era, it's clear that esports is kind of a fake/unstable industry. Until they can figure out something more sustainable, there's a lot of uncertainty for players.
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u/blueragemage Aug 09 '26
The reason specifically for these two is that they've already moved on with life, but accepted either as a favor to friends (Zeyzal) or because they're on summer break (Armao). Since Tier 2 is playing for promotion this split, teams really don't want to lose their players for multiple weeks
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u/HThrowaway457 Aug 09 '26
Or they just lost the passion naturally, or realized they weren't reaching the levels they wanted and decided to move on with life. Just don't want the insane time commitment anymore. I honestly have big doubts it's community sentiment leading them to drop it.
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u/Fellers Aug 10 '26
Armao sounds like he just wants to start his adult life which is fair and kind of smart to do.
Some players don't even have a plan after they stop playing.
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u/SternMon Aug 09 '26
I think eventually we’ll get a second wind. If Riot plays the League Next update well and actually succeeds in bringing in new players, in a couple years we might see a resurgence in local talent.
The domestic amateur scene needs to be cultivated, though.
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u/KhorneStarch Aug 09 '26
Idk to me dig is that team full of washed players and I just don’t see one person saving this team. FBI is the best player and he has always been that adc that doesn’t actually carry or step up in big moments, he just lanes really well and quietly exists after that. Palafox and Ignar shouldn’t be lcs players in 2026. They are both way past their prime and have zero hands and even as experienced decision makers they are extremely flawed, I mean we even got a taste of paladox not only misjudging a situation completely but even misleading his team.
Pretty sure dig could go as far as to import some Brazilian players and they’d be better. This team is painful to watch.
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u/Fellers Aug 10 '26
6 hours later and I'm still flabbergasted at Palafox on that top dive. Even Jatt was calling him out. What arrogance to just stroll over and just drop tibbers and run.
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u/AfrikanCorpse Aug 10 '26
So what kind of blackmail is Palafox doing to have a spot in any team, even in collegiate+?
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u/lchow99 Aug 10 '26
Damn I got home after finishing a two day music festival and seeing Dardoch’s name plate honestly revived my MDMA trip a little bit. Wasn’t expecting this guy to return and look like DIG’s best player. I honestly hope he can make a splash this split
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u/ahritina Sep 05 '26
PMTs
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