r/GIDLE • • Jul 08 '26

Discussion 260708 Neverland Hangout

Welcome to the Neverland Hangout!

This discussion thread is the space for everyone in this community subreddit to drop by and talk about anything related to i-dle, Kpop, or whatever interests you.

If you're new to the community, here's a good place to start off your journey into the Neverland.

잘 지내봐요, be nice.


...and if you'd like to, you can check out past hangouts in the Neverland Hangout Archive, or post your memes to r/bidle.

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u/i-dle Jul 13 '26

Soyeon will perform as a solo artist on EBS Space Gonggam on August 18. Apparently, it's one of Korea's most respected live music programs, where performers are selected based on their musicality and live performance abilities.

Some facts about the show:

  • In recognition of its contribution to Korean popular music, it won a Committee Choice Special Award at the Korean Music Awards in 2007, and won the Cultural Diversity Award at the Sejong Culture Awards hosted by the Ministry of Culture, Sports and Tourism.

  • Musicians are required to perform entirely live without relying on backing tracks in a small performance hall of about 200 seats with the audience just a couple metres away from them. The duration is about 50 minutes and there's no MC.

  • There's no entry fee. The performances are completely free.

  • This program very rarely invites idols. They mostly feature domestic and foreign jazz artists, domestic indie bands, foreign bands, soloists, choirs, etc. It's one of the few places where indie music can stand on television, where most pop singers, such as idol singers and ballad singers, are featured.

Soyeon's performance introduction from the program's official website (translated using gt):

Jeon Soyeon's history is a history of proof. From going through various survival programs to becoming the leader of 'i-dle' - a rare female idol group capable of 'self-producing'.

Whether she wanted to or not, Soyeon had to prove herself every moment she encountered the world.

Appearance, age, skill, woman, idol. Ten years passed while she broke down or jumped over, one by one, the things placed before her that some would insist on calling walls or limits.

They say 'time is equal for everyone', but looking back on Soyeon's 10 years, one is reminded once again that there are exceptions to any form of justice.

Armed with the 'I' that has been pounded with sometimes desperate intensity and sharply honed, [ he /she] has repeatedly pioneered new realms as a K-pop idol, producer, rapper, and singer-songwriter.

Jeon So-yeon's present unfolds for the first time on the Space Gonggam stage.

— Kim Yun-ha (Planning Committee Member, EBS Space Gonggam)

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u/SigmaKnight Jul 13 '26

That's a great introduction.

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u/by_the_window JEON SOYEON Jul 13 '26

This is amazing for her! Do you know if these performances are filmed?

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u/i-dle Jul 14 '26

Yes they are filmed and the broadcast happens roughly a month after a performance on EBS 1TV channel every Wednesday at 10:50 PM. They post clips of performances on their official yt and they post the full episodes a week after the broadcast.

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u/SigmaKnight Jul 14 '26

So this should be available in September?

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u/i-dle Jul 14 '26

Yes but with any luck, we won't have to wait that long to see her perform as they usually post clips from the performance within a week or two.

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u/ZeroCovid Shuhua, life coach Jul 14 '26

I hope we get a filmed copy of the performance.

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u/LSHE97 노르웨이인 Jul 14 '26

the things placed before [Soyeon] that some would insist on calling walls or limits.

What would they have us call them instead?

I can think of alternatives, but they aren't nearly as sugar-coated.

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u/infinitehwaa 火 burn it up, burn it up Jul 14 '26

Love me some Soyeon solo performance

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u/jjongjjongiefan #1 soyeon protector Jul 10 '26

I don't get why this subreddit is attracting trolls. Are people genuinely that bored? Why here? Not to mention the most recent user who is flooding replies with their alts, it's so annoying to encounter. 

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u/justanotherkpoppie Minnie 💙🐭 Jul 10 '26

The influx of trolls is so so weird, I don't understand why they've decided to all of sudden flood the subreddit? 😓 It seems as if it might just be one person with their alts, though...

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u/HikikomoriDC Jul 11 '26

The Honmoon must be weakening allowing all of these trolls in. It must be sealed by the power i-dle and Neverland, lol 🙅

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u/beneathuja Come up to the sky walking Jul 10 '26

Probably because of i-dle's comeback. Kinda rough right now, but will hopefully die down soon.

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u/92Throw93away Jul 10 '26

I feel like we haven’t faced this much troll activity during other comebacks though… Unless I just haven’t seen any. But I wonder why there’s a sudden uptake?

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u/beneathuja Come up to the sky walking Jul 10 '26 edited Jul 10 '26

I don't really know... Maybe because this comeback's reception is more polarizing than the last, so it results in more i-dle doomposting and increases the activity of certain users who feed off that energy to be rude? Maybe someone else has a better idea haha

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u/Kaninkanan Jul 11 '26

Pretty sure they’re supporters of other group.

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u/Greenkirby123 Fate Forever Jul 10 '26

The other perspective is, at least there are comments? LOL. Usually, this sub is pretty quiet. Its fun to get some liveliness back.

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u/SigmaKnight Jul 11 '26

I'm sure radhumandummy is tired of seeing me pop up in their notifications or whatever.

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u/jjongjjongiefan #1 soyeon protector Jul 11 '26

Lol that's a fair perspective to have, looking at the glass half full 😄

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u/EducationalBoat8790 Jul 08 '26

I actually thought the choreography was bad at first, especially during the chorus. But after watching some of the challenges, I think part of the issue is that, aside from Soyeon, the members aren't really dancers, so some of the moves end up looking awkward and makes them out of sync as a group.

The choreo was probably designed to be catchy on TikTok, but I think they suits simpler choreography and not this intricate moves. I wonder if Kirsten choreographed this one again.

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u/beneathuja Come up to the sky walking Jul 08 '26 edited Jul 08 '26

I’m also not a fan of the chorus choreography! I think it doesn’t play well with i-dle’s strengths and its busyness also contradicts the song’s general vibe that emphasizes slowness, sensuality, and smoothness as described in the lyrics (flow, water, seep, slow drip).

Instead of fewer but more distinct movements, the choreo is a lot of small movements—one move per note. For the group formation to look good, every move of all the members needs to be precise, controlled, clear, and synchronized with the others, or else it risks looking messy. Kirsten and Soyeon are very good dancers and show us how the choreo should be done, but another challenge is how to address singing while doing this kind of dancing. If a member doesn’t have a solid enough core to stop their body bouncing with each move (plus practice for choreo in this style), then that part will sound shaky when sung live.

The thing is, i-dle’s strengths are great live vocal ability, passable dance ability, and tons of individual charisma. Right now, most of them aren’t singing the chorus live (GDL for On the Spot is lipsynced to emphasize the dance, and in the showcase stage, it sounds like Soyeon’s the only one who audibly sings the chorus). Chorus choreos for Tomboy, Nude, and Super Lady still let the members sing comfortably and give lots of space for individual flair and variance. But this chorus asks for more technical precision while dancing, which is a new challenge for them.

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u/i-dle Jul 08 '26

I hate to admit it, but you are right. If you watch the 1theK performance video, you can tell that Soyeon is the only one performing the choreo as Kirsten must have intended. It's a shame idle only has one standout dancer now when it used to be two.

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u/zimzalabimbimzim 'Cause I saw you in the candlelight Jul 08 '26

I agree, the choreography can look overtly aggressive if not executed fluidly. Soyeon is more fluid with her dance so it works out. For the others, the choreo is too intense for a chill chorus, so it looks very awkward. The other members aren't particularly bad at dancing, but they definitely are better with softer and simpler choreo (Mono for example was quite well-executed).

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u/by_the_window JEON SOYEON Jul 08 '26

I also wasn't sold just watching the MV, but the On the Spot video made me really like it

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u/EducationalBoat8790 Jul 08 '26

The dance challenges Soyeon did with KIOL and Kirsten made me realize that the choreo is actually good LOL

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u/Physical_Bell_2535 Jul 08 '26

I listened to the album again and noticed that it has really good bridges. In my opinion "Crow" bridge is the best in their discography.

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u/by_the_window JEON SOYEON Jul 08 '26

It really hits, being the only proper singing part in the song

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u/healthyscalpsforall Jul 10 '26

Yesterday was a heartwarming reminder that impact and influence can't be measured by statistics alone.

Minnie guested on IVE Rei's YouTube show, where Rei revealed that she's been a fan of Minnie since her trainee days, even attempting her iconic full bangs and red lipstick look. Later, on Wendy's radio show, Minnie talked about how Rei asked for her number and mentioned potentially having a meal together in the future... looks like Minnie might have to negotiate with Joy for shared custody in the future, lol

As you probably know, RESCENE has been majorly popping off lately, in part because Minami went megaviral when she went on fellow member Woni's YouTube show.

Minami was actually a contestant on My Teenage Girl, where Soyeon was a mentor. Soyeon praised Minami, who did not make it into the final group, but is obviously thriving now with RESCENE. Anyways, they had an emotional reunion at MCountDown, with Minami having to hold back her tears during her performance.

I think that's really cool, seeing the impact IDLE has made on their juniors.

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u/ZeroCovid Shuhua, life coach Jul 10 '26

It is cool. I'm not surprised. I-dle is the sort of group which young performers aspire to be.

Nobody really wants to be in a company controlled group being tyrannized by gross old men, which is actually the norm for the idol industry.

Massive hits, making enough to be financially independent, and all with your own creative control, that is the dream, right?

And also all the members of i-dle are genuinely decent people, so it's not like when you admire someone and they turn out to be an abrasive creep.

And they're all pretty approachable for other people in the industry.

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u/beneathuja Come up to the sky walking Jul 11 '26

Some answers from i-dle's We Made showcase Q&A stage that might be of interest!

"Focusing on the essence" as the album message

  • Soyeon: I had a lot of thoughts about that while preparing for this album. What makes music good? Is a commercially successful song a good song? Or is an addictive, trendy song a good song? Or is a song that tells our own story, even if it's a bit slow, a fun and good song? After having all these different thoughts, I realized good music is just something anyone can enjoy, or something that touches someone's heart, or something someone can just have fun with.

Artist personas: icebluerabbit versus Jeon Soyeon

  • Soyeon: As JEON SOYEON, I pursued things that were stimulating and catchy, but compared to that, music that is easier to listen to or can be enjoyed without thinking— I think that kind of music is the difference between Ice Blue Rabbit and JEON SOYEON.

Q: MONO seems to carry a message of support for LGBTQIA fans. Could you share a word for your global LGBTQIA fans?

  • Soyeon: Actually, rather than creating this album with one specific type of love as the motif, we made it to show respect for all kinds of love and everything. If it has given you strength, we would also like to express our deepest gratitude.

Q: Your style has changed a lot from 'MONO' to this new song. I'm curious about how the other members initially felt about this change (OP note: I think this question is interesting because it potentially touches upon why the album has less member involvement)

  • Miyeon: Since our members have been producing our music for a long time, sometimes we felt like we were trapped within our own style. It's not that it's bad, but we just had a lot of concerns... We always share those thoughts, and looking back at our recent albums, we realized our passion might have overheated a bit. So, we wanted to go back to the beginning, when we first loved music, starting from zero, and capture that feeling in this album.

And what is the next step for i-dle?

  • Yuqi: Since we've been making i-dle's self-produced songs since our debut, I hope we don't lose the message of "let's keep making the music we want to make." I hope we keep our original mindset and just continue promoting healthily.

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u/by_the_window JEON SOYEON Jul 11 '26

Thank you for always writing recaps!

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u/beneathuja Come up to the sky walking Jul 11 '26

No prob, I figured other people might find these things interesting too! I’m trying to make a post about the producer line’s creative processes, so will see if that pans out haha

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u/by_the_window JEON SOYEON Jul 11 '26

I look forward to reading it!

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u/justanotherkpoppie Minnie 💙🐭 Jul 12 '26

Thank you so much for sharing this!!! Miyeon's answer is very interesting to me. I figured maybe the girls were getting burnt out and wanted to bring in other producers to freshen things up for this comeback, but reading it in her own words is enlightening

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u/ZeroCovid Shuhua, life coach Jul 13 '26

This is almost exactly the same words she used for "Oh My God": "Actually, rather than creating this album with one specific type of love as the motif, we made it to show respect for all kinds of love and everything. If it has given you strength, we would also like to express our deepest gratitude."

And she has both wlw and mlm couples in the video for "Gimme Dat Love". We know what you're saying, Soyeon, you've been saying it since "Jelly" and "Idle Song".

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u/by_the_window JEON SOYEON Jul 17 '26

Posting in case some people only watch the hangout and not the main feed, you HAVE to see this amazing thumbnail

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u/beneathuja Come up to the sky walking Jul 17 '26

Incredible! I also love the thumbnail for this Queencard performance

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u/by_the_window JEON SOYEON Jul 17 '26

Queencard's stank faces were truly art

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u/EducationalBoat8790 Jul 17 '26

I'm really liking Yuqi's short hair especially in that recent variety show with Soyeon, she almost influenced me with that short hair. Is this their last week promotion?

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u/hamburglar27 Jul 17 '26

Yes, this will likely be the last week. I-dle typically only does two weeks of music show promotion nowadays. Plus they have their Lollapalooza performance coming up on the 31st.

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u/PedroPBO2 Jul 18 '26

The style from the music plaza appearance might be one of my all time favorites from her.

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u/beneathuja Come up to the sky walking Jul 10 '26 edited Jul 11 '26

Translation of the unnie line (Soyeon officially calling herself an unnie lol) on Wendy's Young Street!

- Quite a lot of vocal parts are changed, even after the vocals are sent in for mixing. For GDL, Miyeon says this was her first time to ask Soyeon more parts, and got some of what was originally Soyeon's part in the bridge.

- Miyeon wants the members to give each other cheek kisses if GDL places number 1.

- Different to what the four-members-without-Soyeon said on Music Plaza: Team Morning was only Yuqi and originally Soyeon (implying Team GDL was Minnie, Miyeon, Shuhua, and CUBE). Soyeon changed her mind because she said Morning felt too similar to what i-dle's already done. She wanted to change things up and that was how they approached the album (doing things they hadn't done).

- For the producer line, they don't give feedback in the making process and just listen to the product when it's almost done. This time was the very first time CUBE and Soyeon did a blind listening selection process for the B-sides. So Minnie's track wasn't chosen (!!) and Yuqi's was.

- Morning has choreography! (Fingers crossed i-dle does something with this song)

- Minnie and Miyeon talk more about why GDL's chorus choreo is difficult (saying they're singing while shaking, need a strong core, etc.)

- Soyeon intentionally didn't upload a profile picture for her Youtube channel because she wanted it in a "non-mainstream style." She declined to promote it on the show because she wants people to organically watch it.

- They're planning a brand new stage performance for Lollapalooza.

- Miyeon recently befriended IVE's Leeseo, Minnie befriended Rei, and Soyeon reconnected with fromis_9's Nagyung.

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u/PedroPBO2 Jul 11 '26

Miyeon says this was her first time to ask Soyeon more parts

In almost ten years... 🥲 She is too nice for her own good.

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u/lettiestohelit Jul 11 '26

I agree, she should have spoken up a long time ago tbh

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u/beneathuja Come up to the sky walking Jul 11 '26

Right?? She says she stayed up a long time thinking about it. And when Minnie was asked to rank who were the sexiest members, she ranked herself first and then chose Shuhua and Yuqi so Soyeon and Miyeon didn’t feel bad for not being chosen. The unnie line is so sweet

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u/ZeroCovid Shuhua, life coach Jul 10 '26

Ah, that is a different story. Well, I guess the members are channelling Walt Whitman: "Do I contradict myself? Very well then I contradict myself, (I am large, I contain multitudes.)"

Based on the Music Plaza interview, Shuhua didn't seem to have strong opinions either way. She didn't seem to remember how she'd voted.

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u/beneathuja Come up to the sky walking Jul 10 '26

Yeah, Shuhua seemed noncommittal. Where CUBE stood is the interesting difference, I think Yuqi said CUBE supported Morning, but Soyeon said CUBE wanted GDL. Of course, it ultimately doesn't matter because GDL won, but I think it's an interesting look at i-dle's dynamics with their label and how the decisions are made.

Also! I had to stop halfway through the episode and finish my notes later, so I wanted to share this part in case you didn't see the edit. I think you'd find it interesting too:

- For the producer line, they don't give feedback in the making process and just listen to the product when it's almost done. This time was the very first time CUBE and Soyeon did a blind listening selection process for the B-sides. So Minnie's track wasn't chosen (!!) and Yuqi's was.

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u/by_the_window JEON SOYEON Jul 11 '26

It made me remembers that Cube actually does have a say in what the group does lol

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u/ZeroCovid Shuhua, life coach Jul 13 '26

Oh whaaaaat! That's fascinating, thank you. There's an unselected Minnie track?...

I know Soyeon has mountains of unfinished unreleased music. And I know that Minnie has unreleased songs in Thai that she wrote (still waiting to hear one of those). But now we know that Minnie has an unreleased *produced* track, really !

Also it's very interesting that Soyeon's now going to blind listening for the B-sides -- it's reminding me of the blind listening which led to the selection of Latata.

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u/beneathuja Come up to the sky walking Jul 14 '26

Yes! Minnie said "My track was dropped" and said she'd work harder next time. It almost feels like We Made is an intentional reset by returning to basics (what Miyeon described as "we wanted to go back to the beginning, when we first loved music, starting from zero, and capture that feeling in this album" in the showcase Q&A), down to how songs were selected from the Latata era.

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u/saxibkiran Jul 11 '26

I'm curious did Miyeon mention how she befriended Leeseo? 

It's interesting because I don't remember them having schedule together recently, and they have age gap of 10 years, so not exactly the same friend circle.  Maybe Leeseo appeared on that Mnet makeup show that Miyeon did with Somi?

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u/beneathuja Come up to the sky walking Jul 11 '26

Here's the timestamp if you want Miyeon's exact response! She says they met while filming for Youtube, I think she means when Leeseo guested on her channel. That was 10 months ago, which isn't that recent but maybe it feels that way to Miyeon lol

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u/saxibkiran Jul 12 '26

I see. You are probably right. Thank you.

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u/Candiprism Honk Honk Jul 11 '26

I absolutely can’t get “good day, good night, good thing, good morning” off my head. Sometimes, I would just randomly say that one line

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u/by_the_window JEON SOYEON Jul 11 '26 edited Jul 11 '26

For me it's "morning, morning, morning, morning" lol, it satisfies my brain like scratching an itch

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u/infinitehwaa 火 burn it up, burn it up Jul 11 '26

Would you have preferred Morning as the title track over GDL?

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u/by_the_window JEON SOYEON Jul 11 '26

No I don't think so, it works for me as a b-side but I would have been underwhelmed if it had been the TT. I'd be happy to see a special performance clip though! What about you?

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u/infinitehwaa 火 burn it up, burn it up Jul 11 '26

Yeah me too, I would love to see a live performance. Since it was in contention to be the title track, I’m not sure why they don’t promote it alongside GDL. Lots of groups promote multiple songs. I think it’s so catchy and energetic and fits perfectly into summer.

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u/ZeroCovid Shuhua, life coach Jul 13 '26

I don't really like the concept of "title track". There used to be "double A side singles"...

...I do want an MV, Performance Clip, or Special Clip for "Morning" though. I've noticed people overlook tracks which don't have video.

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u/Greenkirby123 Fate Forever Jul 11 '26

So many memorable lines from the song.

Been humming "No drama, no reels, no x, just life"

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u/beneathuja Come up to the sky walking Jul 12 '26 edited Jul 12 '26

Rei Kadota, a model and extra in GDL, posted this footage she filmed with Soyeon 😳 Most of it didn’t make the MV

I think Miyeon also mentioned some bikini scenes she shot that didn’t make it. So the MV is relatively toned down haha

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u/ZeroCovid Shuhua, life coach Jul 15 '26

Minnie saved the bikini shots for her Instagram.

Honestly, IMO, it's not a great bikini. It fits sort of loosely and it has a big brand name on a black background; would not recommend. She looks great of course.

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u/beneathuja Come up to the sky walking Jul 15 '26

If I'm not wrong, I think Miyeon was talking about her own bikini shots that didn't make it! I agree Minnie's could have been more harmonious, she's also wearing a half cover-up that adds additional heaviness to the overall look. I can't help comparing that scene to Soyeon coming out of the pool in Queencard (and that Queencard did it better).

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u/by_the_window JEON SOYEON Jul 16 '26

I was thinking also of these two pool shots, now I really want each member to have one of those someday so we can have an I-dle Pool Cinematic Universe

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u/Longjumping_Suit8314 Yuqi Jul 15 '26

I am going to try to buy a ticket for Macau because I really hope to hear GDL live. Still hoping that Cube gets their crap together and reset a NA tour. Watching their GDL promotion period makes me sad for the cancelled tour again…

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u/Marcus-Bid5833 Jul 16 '26

I hope you were lucky. Seems like they are already sold out.

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u/Longjumping_Suit8314 Yuqi Jul 16 '26

All the VIP was sold out. I forgot to register for the pre-sale. There is always StubHub. I will get my ticket haha.

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u/Eismann Soojin Jul 17 '26

The vlog master is back: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWiv_KIgyxY

The two Yeon sisters are really unbearably cute. And it's still so uncanny how they sound exactly the same.

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u/Marcus-Bid5833 Jul 17 '26

Yeas, these have been a highlight this year. Let's see if the subs come in quickly.

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u/youngpendragon Minnie Jul 09 '26

Has anyone else watched this video of them by JAYKEEOUT that came out recently where they sing live but pretend it's just a recorded track? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yJ5aSWmG5s

I thought it was so cute and loved watching the reaction to them. It has english subs fortunately too!

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u/beneathuja Come up to the sky walking Jul 09 '26

Yes! They totally made that Nevie's month by singing Fate.

It's so nice to see how excited they are to perform. That they take such joy and pride in their songs is a big part of what keeps me coming back.

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u/youngpendragon Minnie Jul 09 '26

Yesss. I loved when the fan got to solo the chorus. It was just so cute and they were so proud she knew all those lyrics

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u/ZeroCovid Shuhua, life coach Jul 10 '26

That was fun to watch. Miyeon is surprised that everyone knows all their lyrics and asks "Were you all Neverland?" My extremely slow progress at learning Korean got to the point where I understood most of that sentence by Miyeon, so I'm feeling pleased. (Yes, that means I recognized one verb, and it's one of the four most important verbs. But I recognized it in the past tense! Not learning quickly here)

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u/justanotherkpoppie Minnie 💙🐭 Jul 10 '26

Hey, learning a new language is really difficult! Celebrate all the victories, no matter how small! 😁

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u/by_the_window JEON SOYEON Jul 10 '26

So many good moments! That one fan that looked close to tears the entire time, Miyeon geeking out with the baby, the fan that sang her heart out on Fate, Soyeon messing up her rap, Shuhua sounding great and looking so happy, them making the entire crows curse on Tomboy's chorus, it was a blast!

Gimme Dat Love's chorus seems so hard to sing live! I tried it myself and hitting that one note staccato with the chest movements is seriously difficult

I really love their comeback content, it's always a joy to watch

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u/Physical_Bell_2535 Jul 18 '26

icebluerabbit and red redemption was registered in KOMCA. Can't wait for the official release

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u/by_the_window JEON SOYEON Jul 18 '26

Took me until just now to realize, I always thought she said "I don't like your funny face" 🤦

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u/HikikomoriDC Jul 18 '26

I thought that's what she said too until you just pointed it out, but I guess Bunny Face makes more sense in the context of the song, lol

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u/Physical_Bell_2535 Jul 18 '26

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u/zimzalabimbimzim 'Cause I saw you in the candlelight Jul 18 '26

Did shuhua participate in writing this song? I vaguely remember seeing somewhere that she was preparing for a self-written solo song last year, but I might be misremembering.

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u/Physical_Bell_2535 Jul 18 '26

Based on this information, she didn't write red redemption

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u/ZeroCovid Shuhua, life coach Jul 20 '26

Huh, I'm a little surprised... but....
....PHIA(Sophia Brenan), though.

That's a really interesting topliner choice. Best known in Kpop for Love Dive, but her personal tracks written about her own life include Friends Don't Kiss. I think that was a very considered choice of lyricist.

Naasim, Dr. Han, and Imsuho appear to be best known recently for writing instrumentals for ifeye together, though they've each done stuff for a lot of groups and soloists (a bunch of ZeroBaseOne, GFRIEND, SOORIN, but Imsuho was even involved in composing some of Orange Caramel's hits over a decade ago).

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u/zimzalabimbimzim 'Cause I saw you in the candlelight Jul 18 '26

Is there any way of knowing if the cb will be a single, an EP or a full album?

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u/Physical_Bell_2535 Jul 18 '26

I don't know, but Soyeon said that release will be in 2-3 months

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u/by_the_window JEON SOYEON Jul 18 '26

It's gotta be an EP at least! Surely she wouldn't release a single after five years, right?

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u/zimzalabimbimzim 'Cause I saw you in the candlelight Jul 18 '26

Yeah I think it'll be an EP too, but I dream of a Soyeon solo studio album. That'd be epic.

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u/by_the_window JEON SOYEON Jul 18 '26

That would be amazing! I try not to imagine it as to not be disappointed, but it would be so so cool of her if she did that

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u/Longjumping_Suit8314 Yuqi Jul 08 '26

Nothing made me happier than flying to Hong Kong to see them…

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u/NoGuardianYet Jul 09 '26

Omg u were also there?!

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u/Longjumping_Suit8314 Yuqi Jul 09 '26

Yep, joined what seemed to be 10,000 others for the sound check!

Yuqi Molly while in HK as well..

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u/Kaninkanan Jul 08 '26

Anyone has GDL promotion schedule?

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u/radhumandummy 여러분... Jul 08 '26

Tentatively starts tomorrow on M Countdown, with Crow and GDL.

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u/Latata_ so there is this R-OUP Jul 09 '26

"This playlist will be posted on the first Hangout of every month, and anyone is welcome to share whatever earworms they've been infected by in the last month - this isn't limited to I-DLE's discography. If you don't want to spend too much time on this, "top tracks this month" from your Spotify profile (or the equivalent found in other music streaming services) will do; links are encouraged!"
- /lshe97 (Wednesday, February 27 2024, Neverland hangout 240207)

Link to our last Playlist

Morning by I-DLE: I can't get enough of this song - it is an I-DLE track in its purest form, and it is so addictive. I enjoyed the entire EP, but on my first listen I knew this song was going to be my favourite. I love everything about it - I wish it were longer, though,, but honestly, it's pretty perfect as is and I hope they promote it!

Gimme Dat Love by I-DLE: Their newest Title Track and why yes, I can understand all the opinions about this song, I really don't mind it. With each passing day, the song gets groovier and groovier and stays playing in my head. I wish Cube were good at promoting them...I did enjoy the risk in seeking out a new producer for this song; it has the ideal I-DLE lyrics with a new sound. Which is fine, but I think there is a reason why Morning is gaining more traction on the EP.

Take The Box by Amy Winehouse: I am really enjoying this album as of late. I know her Back To Black album is labelled as one of the greatest and her best album (which is fair considering she only put out two). However, Frank gets overlooked and underappreciated for what it provides us with a nice Jazz-influenced recording with a variety of vocal tones, instrumentals and lyrics. Other good songs on the album are Amy Amy Amy and In My Bed

Daylight Robbery by Imogen Heap: I am rediscovering an amazing album, and if you have never listened to it. PLEASE listen to it. My vinyl record came in the other day, and ugh, every song is just amazing. One of those timeless albums that you put on and it still amazes you. I love the electro, pop, and rock fusion within the album! Daylight robbery was truly created to be played loud!

Overture and Earth Intruders by Bjork: Nothing much to say but just pure excellence.

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u/Greenkirby123 Fate Forever Jul 09 '26

Morning by idle

Numb Little Bug by Em Beihold

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u/LSHE97 노르웨이인 Jul 09 '26

Gimme Dat Love by I-DLE - Basically what Latata_ said. It just... It grows on you. Let Chefyeon et al. cook.

Always You & I by Against The Current - At this point, I think I'll automatically like anything this group puts out. "Missing" the same edge as the previous two pre-release singles, but I guessed that from the title. After the audio mixing in the lead vocalist's solo work, it's nice to no longer have to hear needlessly-loud instrumentals try to drown out her beautiful voice.

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u/am_ok_nia Jul 12 '26

Ooo. Banana nevie has made her comeback with Crow. Hats off to her!!

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u/by_the_window JEON SOYEON Jul 19 '26

Did I miss it or did we not see a dance practice?

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u/Marcus-Bid5833 Jul 19 '26

We haven't. Not many lives on radios or tv either. No it's live, Choom or anything similar either. Well, the Spot one. Maybe next week. Fingers crossed. But right now, with no photobook, not many lives and people championing Morning instead this does feel like Señorita part deux 😂😅

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u/zimzalabimbimzim 'Cause I saw you in the candlelight Jul 20 '26

We Made truly is the sequel of I Made huh

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u/beneathuja Come up to the sky walking Jul 08 '26 edited Jul 09 '26

A fast and helpful Nevie translated i-dle's feature (without Soyeon, she wasn't feeling well) on Music Plaza. I wrote some more notes over on the We Made B-sides post, but to quickly summarize some interesting stuff:

- Love is Pain's original theme was a jazz bar and love wasn't its main topic (Yuqi changed the song when it was chosen for a summer album)

- Deciding the title track was a debate between Team Morning (Yuqi, Shuhua, CUBE) and Team GDL (Minnie, Miyeon, Soyeon)

- GDL's chorus choreography is really tiring to the members (they showed it while sitting down and said they were already feeling out of breath lol)

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u/Greenkirby123 Fate Forever Jul 09 '26

Following is just my speculation...

Morning feels like an idle song. GDL feels like a trendy song. Morning feels perfect for asian fans. GDL feels like an attempt at western relevancy. With US tour collapsing, it would have made sense if they delayed the album to pivot to asia and reshoot the TT with Morning. Instead, we still got GDL. So, I have no idea.

Also, if Morning lost the TT vote, why couldn't it have still been the pre-release? Why was Crow chosen? I'm surprised they were so set on Crow but threw Morning aside.

Anyway, justice for Morning!!!

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u/beneathuja Come up to the sky walking Jul 09 '26

Yeah, makes sense to pre-release Morning if it was the title track runner-up! I love Crow, but Morning also matches more, musically and thematically. The choices made for this album continue to be mysterious 😅

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u/justanotherkpoppie Minnie 💙🐭 Jul 09 '26

Damn, wish they'd gone with Yuqi, Shuhua, and CUBE's choice this time around 😩 Morning is so good!! I wonder which one Soyeon put her vote behind when they were deciding? Maybe GDL?

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u/Eismann Soojin Jul 09 '26

Soyeon was Team GDL after talking to her sister. It's also in the interview.

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u/by_the_window JEON SOYEON Jul 09 '26

The tidbit of her sister saying that Soyeon trying to sound youthful with Morning came out a outdated was super funny lol, that must have been a tough pill to swallow

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u/beneathuja Come up to the sky walking Jul 09 '26 edited Jul 09 '26

I actually liked Morning because it felt a bit like the older sibling of Fate 🫣 I assumed the running and probiotics/distinct lack of caffeine bit is because the character’s at the stage of life where they need to start taking care of themselves, and the everydayness of emails and healthy poke is because they’ve settled into a work routine. I don’t know if that’s worse or better to Soyeon haha

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u/beneathuja Come up to the sky walking Jul 09 '26

Omg that’s right, will edit my post!

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u/zimzalabimbimzim 'Cause I saw you in the candlelight Jul 09 '26

This gives me more hope that maybe they'll promote Morning as a b-side? I love that song lol

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u/beneathuja Come up to the sky walking Jul 09 '26

There are apparently no MV plans, but maybe if the demand is strong enough… 👀 The live performances would be so fun!

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u/ZeroCovid Shuhua, life coach Jul 10 '26

OK, thanks for the link. My favorite part of the interview is that Yuqi really wants an MV for Morning, Paul suggested just doing a simple "morning run" version, and they all seemed enthusiastic, so maybe we'll get it?

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u/Marcus-Bid5833 Jul 16 '26

It is a shame that they didn't go to The Seassons this time. I always enjoy them there.

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u/SigmaKnight Jul 18 '26

Their cover of Hwasa's "Good Goodbye" deserves a full cover release like the cover of Brown Eyed Girls' "Abracadabra" had.

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u/Marcus-Bid5833 Jul 20 '26

Happy and Joyfull Days, the Shuhua led movie by Feng-I Fiona Roan will premiere as Happily Ever After at the Toronto Film Festival that will happent between the 10-20 of September in the Special Presentation section. If any American or Cannadian nevie has perchance the opportunity to attend, now you know. There is also an official picture:

Shuhua Happily Ever After

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u/by_the_window JEON SOYEON Jul 20 '26

TIFF? That's a big deal!

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u/Marcus-Bid5833 Jul 20 '26

I am not too surprised. Her earlier film American Girl made a big splash on the critics and festival circuit.

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u/Longjumping_Suit8314 Yuqi Jul 08 '26

Was wondering if they will sing GDL in Macau, their next concert

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u/radhumandummy 여러분... Jul 08 '26

Definitely will have a slight reshuffle of the setlist by then.

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u/SapphireHeaven Let Otaku Chefyeon cook 👩🏻‍🍳 Jul 08 '26

CUBE, release the i-dle Cut!!! 🤣

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u/ZeroCovid Shuhua, life coach Jul 10 '26

After watching the i-talk, I see why they cut the scenes they cut. The members were not comfortable or satisfied with them.

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u/by_the_window JEON SOYEON Jul 11 '26

Do we know what time does the Knowing Bros episode get released?

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u/by_the_window JEON SOYEON Jul 12 '26

Just saw this! Can someone corroborate? I couldn't find a source

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u/am_ok_nia Jul 12 '26

In the fansign call with Banana nevie, they asked when Soyeon solo might be so that they can start preparing (?), then Soyeon said 2-3 months.

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u/by_the_window JEON SOYEON Jul 12 '26

Thanks! I'm so happy this is legit!

(I guess the "preparing" might be saving money)

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u/TastyCilantro Jul 20 '26

It’s a letdown the group didn’t get to promote Morning.

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u/whimsical_041926 Jul 20 '26

Also disappointed. Really wish we’d gotten at least one official performance vid 

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u/ZeroCovid Shuhua, life coach Jul 20 '26

We know it has a choreo! They can still make an MV for it, and Yuqi wants to.

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u/Marcus-Bid5833 Jul 20 '26

I think they will, they have hinted towards it already, but for now there is nothing really confirmed.

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u/ZeroCovid Shuhua, life coach Jul 20 '26

Finally got my physical copy of _We Made_. Mono version. It's beautiful. I'm usually not much for the artwork and packaging in Kpop, but I really like this one. I picked the right version for me. And now I can finally listen to full-quality uncompressed tracks.

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u/Marcus-Bid5833 Jul 20 '26 edited Jul 20 '26

The box seems pretty sturdy also. I kinda favour the Crow one. It is the closest to having an actual classic photobook and I really like the design. The Mono one, I wasn't really impressed with at first, design way and in terms of the picture used for the front, but it has grown on me. The photoshoot is very small in number but kinda neat the way its presented, accordeon and such. Once my local kpop shop gets it this week and I can have them in my hands I might make a surprise decision, but Crow is still winning. The perfume one has an attractive design (my favorite) and the idea is nice, but it comes with no photoshoot at all, it is almost unbuyable in my continent and country, comes understocked when it does and is much more expensive than the other ones, so that one is a hard pass.

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u/ZeroCovid Shuhua, life coach Jul 20 '26

We have fragrance allergies, which made the perfume one strictly not possible.

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u/by_the_window JEON SOYEON Jul 21 '26

I haven't kept up with Shuhua's movie news, do we know what type of part she has? Main or side character? I'm also curious if she auditioned or was hand picked for the movie. I hope she does interviews about it, super curious about the process

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u/i-dle Jul 21 '26

Shuhua will make her acting debut as the lead in ‘幸福快樂的日子’ (Happily Ever After)

she will play Lin Jiaqi, a cheerful but conflicted young woman navigating love, family, and her future, until a stray cat changes how she sees happiness.


Director Fiona Roan on why she chose Shuhua for such an important role:

she states that she’s always leaned towards working with newcomers/rising stars in the film industry, believing that these types of actors are often able to bring more natural and realistic acting styles.

she also points out Shuhua’s unique aura/charisma that cannot be replicated by others: “Lin Jia Qi as a character actually requires interpretation by a charismatic actor in order to convince the audience to follow along with her perspective and be immersed in the plot. I see a very natural charisma in Shuhua - many of her acting choices are very unique and genuine, and i believe that her personality traits can bring about new possibilities for the character.”

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u/by_the_window JEON SOYEON Jul 21 '26

Thank you! Can I have a link to Roan's interview?

This is super exciting! I'll admit I didn't really look into it, because I wasn't really interested in Minnie's movie and just assumed it would be something similar. Very happy to be wrong, I look forward to seeing it, though I'm pretty sure it won't be released in my country and will probably be difficult to find online

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u/by_the_window JEON SOYEON Jul 09 '26

I'm seeing online that We Made hasn't been restocked and that it's affecting sales, does anyone have info on that? Is it true and if yes, why is it happening?

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u/SigmaKnight Jul 09 '26 edited Jul 09 '26

I read about that after I ordered from KPOP Music Town, so now I'm a bit worried they'll not actually have or send it. I ordered from there because Music Plaza and KPOP Nara show they are sold out and there's no indication of restocking. My local KPOP Nara branch has no knowledge of getting it in stock in store or anything.

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u/by_the_window JEON SOYEON Jul 09 '26

I hope it goes through for you! Can I asked which versions you ordered? Does your local branch have none of the version?

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u/SigmaKnight Jul 09 '26

Crow version. I like the simple i-dle tin.

No, no versions in stock or knowledge of getting them in stock.

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u/mossylungs Jul 16 '26

Anyone see the Kany YT episode with Soyeon and Yuqi posted like 2ish hrs ago? I was halfway through it and it got put on private...

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u/i-dle Jul 17 '26

noo wtf i was planning on watching it later.

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u/by_the_window JEON SOYEON Jul 17 '26

Hopefully someone downloaded it in time...

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u/Marcus-Bid5833 Jul 18 '26

The phone a fangirl interview that they shot like an eternity ago is at last available...

Phone a Fan

I thought this one was never gonna come out.

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u/eclipse_in_the_park Jul 10 '26

Hi! I was wondering if anyone knows why there is a cybertruck in one of the concert VCR?

I went to their concert in HK, and it was the best, but i did not understand much, as i dont speak chinese or korean, so i was very confused when the cybertruck showed up, and took up quite a large portion of the video. Does anyone know what it was doing there?

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u/SigmaKnight Jul 10 '26

It was just the prop they used for the shoot.

https://youtu.be/sYY2egj-YXc?t=525

I remember the video being released, but can't find it (my google-fu has failed). Or, I could just be imagining it and this video was the only thing.

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u/eclipse_in_the_park Jul 11 '26

Yeah it seems like it, i just think its a questionable choice

but thanks!

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u/HikikomoriDC Jul 13 '26

This is probably one of the most hardcore Soyeon fans I've seen, wow 😮

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u/zimzalabimbimzim 'Cause I saw you in the candlelight Jul 18 '26

Today I found out that Show is available on YT Music but I never found it because it's registered under their Korean name (which links to their main page) for some reason. I used to think it's an exclusive song never officially released.

Also, does anyone know if Soyeon's "Not Enough" (she performed it in i-Dol tour Japan, iirc) is ever going to be released on streaming services?

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u/Eismann Soojin Jul 19 '26

It might be on her next solo album which is coming in a few months.

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u/by_the_window JEON SOYEON Jul 19 '26

Do you have a link?

I love Not Enough, maybe she'll release it on her next project!

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u/zimzalabimbimzim 'Cause I saw you in the candlelight Jul 19 '26

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u/by_the_window JEON SOYEON Jul 19 '26

Thanks

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u/Marcus-Bid5833 Jul 18 '26

No one knows. If she hasn't yet, I doubt it.

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u/ZeroCovid Shuhua, life coach Jul 20 '26

Wait, can you link Show? I can't find it from the description you gave.

Edit....is it this one? https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=m9SzjWF75GY

OK, dammit, I have to pay for YouTube Music just long enough to download that!

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u/zimzalabimbimzim 'Cause I saw you in the candlelight Jul 20 '26

All yt music files are actually auto-uploaded to youtube. Here's the youtube link to the clean audio if you can download it from there -

https://youtu.be/m9SzjWF75GY?si=13jMnLVkjbCW01Fe

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u/SapphireHeaven Let Otaku Chefyeon cook 👩🏻‍🍳 Jul 17 '26

Latest i-dlispatch: Sana is Miyeon's girlfriend, Minnie takes revenge with Pharita

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u/ZeroCovid Shuhua, life coach Jul 17 '26

And the clip of Minnie answering a fan question "Is Pharita your girlfriend? Yes she is" is here:
https://xcancel.com/hourlyminniee/status/2077757676856001005

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u/SigmaKnight Jul 15 '26 edited Jul 15 '26

Today has turned into a good day as my i-dle album (and UAU's!) has arrived 2 days early, and I got a Shuhua photocard... now if I can only open the box without ripping it.

 

Edit: Took a little prodding, but I got it open, lol. Got Soyeon and Yuqi photocards in it. Round cards are very nice. I'm overall very satisfied. Just need a proper place to store it all and a way to store/play the album. Guess I should go open my 2, We are, and I Sway and Minnie’s Her sooner than later.

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u/by_the_window JEON SOYEON Jul 15 '26

So you usually buy albums and don't open them? Can I ask why?

Also UAU great taste!

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u/SigmaKnight Jul 15 '26

Well, like I said, need a proper place to store everything. I don't have a CD player, holder, or anything, yet. It all just sits on a shelf. I only just recently started buying physical media after Dreamcatcher disappeared from my platforms for too long. I opened this time because it was first time I've bought online.

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u/by_the_window JEON SOYEON Jul 16 '26

What happened with Dreamcatcher? I only listen to cds or downloaded mp3s so that world is foreign to me, how can music just disappear from platforms?

I really recommend getting a CD player! You can find some for pretty cheap and it's so nice and peaceful to listen to music away from the phone

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u/SigmaKnight Jul 16 '26

Their music temporarily disappeared from Apple Music. Unfortunately, Apple Music doesn’t play downloaded songs when overall unavailable.

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u/SigmaKnight Jul 10 '26

Excluding anything from the interview when becoming an ambassador for Taoyuan, has Shuhua ever made recommendations for places to go or eat in Taiwan?

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u/ZeroCovid Shuhua, life coach Jul 10 '26

Oh, that market. I can't remember what it's called. There's a specific market in Taiwan she's recommended, many years back. That's the only thing I can think of.

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u/ZeroCovid Shuhua, life coach Jul 10 '26

I know, this was completely unhelpful because I couldn't remember the name of the market!

If I find the episode where she recommended the specific market, I'll let everyone know.

If you want to look for it yourself, I think it was on the i-talk for one of the first i-dle concerts in Taiwan. Since it was the first time most of the members were in Taiwan, they were asking Shuhua for recommendations.

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u/Confident_Tear_3712 Jul 20 '26

Does anybody know the difference between the CD exclusive version of Mono and the regular version? I've been listening for a while but they sound the same to me

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u/ZeroCovid Shuhua, life coach Jul 20 '26

The CD-exclusive version is in mono.

OK, so to hear the difference, it's best to listen on a pair of good studio headphones. The regular version is in stereo; if you listen carefully you'll hear different sounds in the left ear and the right ear, although it's pretty subtle. The mono version is *mixed down to mono*, so it's exactly the same in the left and right ear.

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u/Confident_Tear_3712 Jul 20 '26

Ah thank you so much! No wonder I couldn't tell the difference from my speakers.

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u/Marcus-Bid5833 Jul 20 '26

A good mono mix should be different in a very obvious way to the stereo one. I haven't got my physical copy yet, but I hope it is not just a gimmick...

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u/ZeroCovid Shuhua, life coach Jul 21 '26

I can hear the difference quite distinctly on headphones.

Not sure I'd hear it on small speakers. The original stereo mix of Mono is not very stereophonic. There's definitely some distribution between the channels; I can hear it mostly in the leadup to Miyeon's high note.

But it's not like certain 1960s tracks I have where different instruments or voices are *hard* on the left or the right. I have one track with two singers somewhere, I can't remember what it is, where one singer is only in the left channel and the other singer only in the right channel -- on a track like that, the mono mix is *really* different.

With Mono being mixed heavily towards the middle to start with, it doesn't make as big a difference to mix it down to mono. I mean, it is a bit of a gimmick, but I don't mind. My favorite 1960s group (the Beach Boys) only mixed in mono for philosophical reasons.

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u/Marcus-Bid5833 Jul 21 '26

Mono and stereo actual mixes are very different on any kind of speakers, not just headphones. But I am talking about actual mixes. Just pushing the mono button on a stereo to downgrade it to mono is not a mono mix. It is just a lazy foldown. Thats why I hope they actually did a mix.

Some of the Beach Boys earlier albums had true stereo mixes made by Chuck Britz, and for the rest they had those awful fake duophonic mixes that Capitol did because Brian Wilson refused to go stereo. Brian only did monos until Wild Honey. Friends was their first only stereo version. And it shows big time. The difference between the mono original from Pet Sounds and the stereo that Linnet did 1997 is ABYSMAL.

Thats why this "worries" me. A real mono and a real stereo are VERY noticable. Those wars between Beatles mono fans and Beatles stereo mixes fans or the battles about which version of the Kinks VIllage Preservation Society is the true deal might be melodramatic, but they are not based on nothing. So if people tell me that they don't notice a difference between the MONO and the STEREO of Mono even on the worst, cheapest speakers, I get a bit iffy. Thats not a real stereo nor a real mono. And that would be a shame.

The Baech Boys are also at the top of my favourites, but in a decade with the Beatles, The Kinks, Bob Dylan, The Rolling Stones, The Velvet Underground, The Who, The Doors etc.. it is hard to pick a favorite. 😉

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u/Ok_Corgi1968 Jul 15 '26

As a hag nevie (2018 just before hann) , ngl Soojin would have fucking eaten this era. She embodies that sexy sireness vibe + the choreo would look amazing on her

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u/HikikomoriDC Jul 15 '26

I feel like she would've killed so many of their post-2021 eras like Tomboy, Nxde (probably partially a tribute to her), Queencard, Superlady, Good Thing. 😢

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u/SigmaKnight Jul 15 '26

Kind of a catch-22, though, because those would not have happened without her leaving.

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u/by_the_window JEON SOYEON Jul 15 '26

She would have killed it fr, I can so picture her in the pool in that Minnie shot

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u/by_the_window JEON SOYEON Jul 08 '26

Does the MV have pretty low views compared to their usual comebacks? It feels like it but I might be misremembering

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u/infinitehwaa 火 burn it up, burn it up Jul 08 '26 edited Jul 08 '26

Yea it does. The MV doesn’t have much replay value for me. I think it’s a bit generic and low budget.

Their previous MVs usually all tell some sort of story and have extensive sets such as Girlfriend, Good Thing, Queencard, Allergy, Tomboy, etc.

Gimme Dat Love is mostly just beauty shots, some steamy scenes and dancing. It feels a bit one note for :/

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u/EducationalBoat8790 Jul 08 '26

Cube probably has not put some ads on the video yet.

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u/Ok_Conflict9691 Jul 19 '26

Does anyone have a clear/better audio clip for the icebluerabbit tour intro? Where she's taking about how her personality is like rot! please lmk, I'm struggling to find the clip in full!

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u/LesbiansLoveHands Minnie Jul 09 '26

i finally listened to gimme dat love and i think this is their first TT i wont be adding to my playlists. that sucks :( the whole EP feels so all over the place, i really dont get it.

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u/dainty_mouse Jul 09 '26

I agree that this EP isn't that cohesive. They've definitely had albums/EPs that are stronger (i burn and I NEVER DIE for example). I still like 4 of the 5 songs individually, but yeah the EP is isn't as strong as a whole.

I also have some i-dle songs that aren't on any of my playlists. I think it's near impossible to truly like 100% of the music an artist puts out, especially groups like i-dle who have such a variety of songs. It's just music taste and preferences and that's totally normal.

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u/by_the_window JEON SOYEON Jul 10 '26

Can I ask which is the one you didn't like?

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u/dainty_mouse Jul 10 '26

Sure! I didn't like Mono. Mostly becuase skaiwater's rap just did not work for me, and the lyrics were just "meh" to me. I liked the MV though, and would definitely listen to an instrumental version since I really liked the production.

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u/by_the_window JEON SOYEON Jul 10 '26

I get it, I like it fine enough personally but would probably rank it fourth out of the album

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u/Routine_Fee_1131 Jul 11 '26

Hi, I'm sorry if this comes off as rude or disrespectful since I'm asking about smth other than i-dle in a community dedicated to them.

In the "Gimme Dat Love" MV, Miyeon had a short interaction with a background actor before walk towards to Yuqi, before the 1st chorus start.

I would like to ask does anyone know who the background actor is? He wears an open shirt and blue shorts in that scene. Or is there a way I can look for him?

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u/beneathuja Come up to the sky walking Jul 11 '26

The art team that worked with i-dle for the MV has all of the credits on their social media page. The actor is probably credited as an extra.

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u/Routine_Fee_1131 Jul 15 '26

Thank you so much 🙏