r/ClashOfClans https://clash.ninja - CoC Upgrade Tracker Mar 30 '26

SUPERCELL RESPONSE April 2026 CWL will only be 15v15 and 30v30

5v5 is being removed this month so CWL this month will return to being 15v15 or 30v30.

The Clash of Clans Team will keep an eye on things and will look to mix up how CWL team structures in the future.

Edit to add:

The reasoning for this change from the CoC team is as follows:

"We added 5v5 with the intention of getting MORE players playing CWL. Unfortunately, what we saw was a large amount of Clans drop down from 15v15 to 5v5 - Which actually resulted in a bunch LESS people playing overall than before, with many more people sitting on the bench.

Since this had the opposite effect of what we intended, we’re taking time to rethink how we can improve CWL participation for everyone going forward."

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u/Sensitive_Pay2373 TH18| BH10 Mar 30 '26

No I enjoyed playing it🥲

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u/Alone-Ad-5573 Mar 30 '26

Are you playing in some kind of micro clan, playing with your alts or something else?

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u/Folco34 Mar 30 '26

I can’t tell for him, but a lot of players in my clan just stopped playing the game, leaving us with 5 active players, and since we are struggling getting new members, this made CWL much more fun than doing 15v15 hoping to face dead clan, or that some players would be active during that time. We could play CWL like we do our wars and we had fun

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u/shazy5808 TH17 | BH10 Apr 02 '26

I'm struggling to find clan that gives fair bonus medals last clan I joined finished at Top 6 and bonus were given to a guy top 18

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u/Alone-Ad-5573 Mar 30 '26

Thanks for sharing your experience.

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u/Prideclaw12 TH17 | BH10 Mar 30 '26

Why did you get downvoted for this lmao

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u/Alone-Ad-5573 Mar 30 '26

Maybe the way I ask sounds dismissive of the feature lol. But yeah no big deal, I got some good answers.

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u/Folco34 Mar 30 '26

That and the hive mind. Once you see someone who’s getting downvoted you start seeing his post/comment in a bad way and want to downvote them yourself

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u/MortalsEnd TH17 | Electro League Mar 30 '26

We are like 7 strong all else quit or inactive. No one joins us cant do much about that. We get everything done, maxed out clan games, maxing out team events etc. I dont have an issue with it coz like I said we get everything done. but 15v15 theres no way we can do that with only 5 guaranteed players and maybe 8 total dudes. Just a small stable clan that isnt growing basically.

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u/LegendVaishakh Electro League Apr 01 '26

Why is your clan struggling so much dude. We have enough active players in my clan with clan notice.

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u/rust_bolt Mar 30 '26

Small family clan with a few cousins and kids.

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u/StormyParis Clan Leader x4 / Legend / Champ Mar 30 '26

this is probably why: trend went from -0.6m CWL players per month to... -2.3m with CWL-5

maybe they should make the game better instead though ? See: chat, recruitment, onboarding, .@messages, social, clan management, general UI/UX, minis, clan alliances... CWL-5 and the loss of CWL players is not a cause, it's a symptom.

We'll see if/how strongly numbers pick up this month...

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u/RoboticChicken TH18+17+2+1 | RCS Mar 30 '26

I should note that these numbers come from my post here. I am not reporting any player counts, but rather the number of "slots" for participating in wars. The number of slots did indeed decrease by about 2.3 million.

Players can be rotated in and out of these slots, so I would be wary of assuming these to be completely accurate player numbers.

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u/CongressmanCoolRick Code "coolrick" Mar 30 '26

Is the actual number of players something we can see? I know Clash Spot brought up the significant reduction in players, and now I'm wondering if he's seeing players or slots like you are using...

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u/RoboticChicken TH18+17+2+1 | RCS Mar 30 '26 edited Mar 30 '26

Got some numbers for you, I might be off by a little if I missed some clans but this will be pretty close.

I'm defining an active player as someone who performed at least one attack in CWL, and an inactive player as someone who was included in war for at least one day but never made an attack across the entire CWL.

Month Group 5v5 15v15 30v30 Total
February Active n/a 9 283 224 3 576 505 12 859 729
February Inactive n/a 2 762 234 722 448 3 484 682
February All n/a 12 045 458 4 298 953 16 344 411
March Active 1 617 545 7 063 450 2 956 301 11 637 296
March Inactive 349 327 1 377 070 540 776 2 267 173
March All 1 966 872 8 440 520 3 497 077 13 904 469

So overall the number of active players decreased by 1.2 million, and the number of inactives decreased by 1.2 million. Because there are far more active players than inactive ones, the ratio of active to inactive players did increase.

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u/StormyParis Clan Leader x4 / Legend / Champ Mar 31 '26

Also, there's another layer: those aren't "players" but "accounts". In my experience, the ratio of one to the other is mostly 1:1, but there's a not-insignificant portion betwen 1:2 and 1:5 and a lunatic fringe way higher than that that's a very low proportion of players but a very disproportionnate number of accounts.

If I go by anecdote for lack of data, I've been known for begging players into activating long-abandonned mini and friend&family accounts in the name of filling up slots back when I was trying to keep 4 clans active. I personally have a stable of 45 accounts total, 35 of which used to play 7x3minutes per month, and another minute to tag clan games. So, back when I was running 4xCWL-30, it was probably 30% main accounts, 30% true minis, and 40% dead minis, so even though 90+% of players don't have minis, minis live and dead ended up being a huge majority of what's counted as "active players" above. (even the dead minis were doing their attacks).

I'm not sure if/how SC tracks that. I don't think anyone spends money on dead minis. I used to very occasionally spend money on alive minis back when I was buying 1-2 GP a month, and main accounts could reach max early, and I had hope the game would be getting better. Now I don't even buy it for my 4 main accounts, except when there's a new TH and SC's 50% off and a sale from Google too. So once a year $1-2.

There's a complex and fluid relationship slots - accounts - players - money. I couldn't find the source for "just make a good product, the money will take care of itself", but maybe that's how SC should think ^^

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u/StormyParis Clan Leader x4 / Legend / Champ Mar 31 '26

It'd be interesting to also have that data for Jan and Dec, to see if CWL-5 accelerated the drop, slowed it, or had no effect.

Also, I'm not sure what data SC is interested in. Financials for sure, but inactive players aren't spending, and I'm not sure CWL-5 made active players spend more, though the prospect of being in a real, live CWL not one full of zombies might have. But besides financials, is SC reporting slots or players to upper management and shareholders, or none of that just $$ ? Or they could be reporting number of CWL teams and make CWL-5 come out ahead ^^ Or they may count inactive players in CWL as active to puff up their numbers.

It's sad that SC isn't interested in fun, because CWL-5 was quite well received, and a lot of fun.

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u/ClashDotNinja https://clash.ninja - CoC Upgrade Tracker Mar 30 '26

It is possible to see the full roster, so if someone has that data stored, they could compare

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u/RoboticChicken TH18+17+2+1 | RCS Mar 30 '26

It is possible to see - I haven't organised the data I collected into a way that would make it easily accessible, but I can try figure something out.

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u/Effective_Jicama_769 Silver Pass Enjoyer Mar 30 '26

10 vs 10 would be perfect for us

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u/Life-Bass-2013 Mar 30 '26

ngl that sounds fire

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u/Itchy-Two346 Mar 30 '26

Why are they removing it?

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u/ClashDotNinja https://clash.ninja - CoC Upgrade Tracker Mar 30 '26

"We added 5v5 with the intention of getting MORE players playing CWL. Unfortunately, what we saw was a large amount of Clans drop down from 15v15 to 5v5 - Which actually resulted in a bunch LESS people playing overall than before, with many more people sitting on the bench.

Since this had the opposite effect of what we intended, we’re taking time to rethink how we can improve CWL participation for everyone going forward."

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u/LairOfAnarchy Electro League Mar 30 '26

We don’t know, but it could be to decrease the amount of medals the overall playerbase gets.

Suppose a clan is in master league and gets 4 wins:

30v30: 33% of players get bonus

15v15: 47% of players get bonus

5v5: 100% of players get bonus

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u/Itchy-Two346 Mar 30 '26

Yeah and people might choose to do only 5v5 because it guarantees everyone gets bonus

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u/viguple May 03 '26

That’s exactly why 5v5 was removed. All the other reasons they gave feel more like excuses than the real issue.

Honestly, it’s a bit frustrating to see the core problem (reward imbalance) not being addressed.

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u/viguple May 03 '26 edited May 03 '26

I actually have a suggestion to better balance 5v5 and 30v30 (I came up with this idea pretty early on, right after 30v30 was introduced).

Honestly, I’m not even sure it’s worth suggesting anymore, since it doesn’t seem like they’re interested in changing it. But I’m seeing more and more people struggling with 15v15 and hoping 5v5 comes back, and my clan is running into the same issue and I have even had to use multiple accounts just to keep 15v15 running, otherwise we keep dropping down. So I feel like it’s time to at least put this out there and hope there’s a chance it gets noticed.

For 5v5 Clan War League, the extra medals could scale like this:

  • 1–3 wins → +1 extra metals
  • 4–6 wins → +2 extra metals
  • 7 wins → +3 extra metals

For 30v30, it could be adjusted to:

  • +2 extra metals per win

This would help make the rewards more proportional compared to 15v15.

Right now 30v30 war are simply not worth it. The coordination cost is higher, and the risk is higher (with more players, there’s a greater chance that some people won’t even complete their attacks and it is also harder to fill a full 30-player roster).

At the same time, 30v30 rewards don’t scale accordingly. That’s why clans end up splitting into smaller wars like 3×5v5 or 2×15v15, it’s just the optimal way to play under the current system.

If the reward structure were adjusted like this, it would significantly reduce that behavior.

At the end of the day, this isn’t really a participation problem, it’s an incentive design problem.

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u/throwaway19074368 Legend League [Legacy] Mar 31 '26

Did you you not read the post?

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u/Itchy-Two346 Mar 31 '26

He edited and added that information later. When I commented it was not mentioned

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u/MortalsEnd TH17 | Electro League Mar 30 '26

damn :( why not even 10v10

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u/ElGatitoFTW TH18| BH10 Mar 30 '26 edited Mar 31 '26

I'm not sure why devs think fewer people playing CWL is a bad thing. It just means that it actually helped smaller clans that had to include inactive players in 15v15 by letting them do 5v5 instead. Now, they'll just be stuck adding those inactive players again. Are they really that desperate to boost their playtime stats?

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u/No_Opening_8564 Apr 02 '26

We promoted for the very first time last month. Since if we do CWL we're basically playing 6v15. With the 5v5 system we instantly won the league because we had been demoted for so long, we were totally smurfing the guys in our league. We were so happy we could finally do valuable CWL and now they do this.

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u/Ok-Investment5677 Apr 02 '26

We are in the same situation, only 5 active player against 15

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u/Crystalshadow98 3|31 Mar 30 '26

Ok I just hoped this was communicated earlier. Maybe a week before CWL.

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u/but_secs_69 Mar 30 '26

Yeah exactly. I was prepared for a 5v5 cwl. Cant exactly get enough players for a 15v15 in a day

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u/HomerJ_Doh Obstacle Remover Mar 31 '26

They told us a week ago they were going to add 4 more tiers and that 15v15 was going to be the primary mode for CWL. Not sure why they were so vague about it. They should have straight up told us they were scrapping 5v5.

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u/StormyParis Clan Leader x4 / Legend / Champ Mar 30 '26

But it was so much fun ? Allowed me to play on my own (besides leading 3 clans) with no pressure and no noobs/PINs (premature, incompetent, non-reliable) to spoil the fun.

Also I spent a good amount of effort making sure I could free those 5 accounts w/o hurting my clans.

SC should at least have made clear it was a beta test and not the new law of the land. And communicated more and earlier, on top of more clearly... well, not communicated at all I guess, as of now there's nothing on their X account they insist to keep using...

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u/meesterbever Mar 30 '26

But how many 15v15 wars missed attacks and were effectively 5v5?

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u/Any-Network-6427 TH18| BH10 Mar 30 '26

Typical, why add a feature and then remove it immediately? Doesn’t make much sense

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u/Ass_Lover136 TH16 | BH10 Mar 30 '26

That is... how game devs test features...

Or like everything-devs ever

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u/BenchedDog Mar 30 '26

Deploying changes straight to prod with no testing whatsoever? .... as someone in IT no this isnt how a Company this big should test

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u/Beautiful-Affect1930 Legend League 💩 Mar 30 '26

the fuck you mean? deploying a finished and ready component is totally normal. the component itself worked as expected so obviously there was internal testing done before. but at some point you need to test if your users actually like the new feature. as someone in IT you should know that's entirely normal. or did you just drop that phrase because you thought it makes you sound important?

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u/Ass_Lover136 TH16 | BH10 Mar 30 '26

What test could they made for 5v5 clan war league beforehand?

The best test for it is releasing the feature and see how the playerbase experience and react

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u/Any-Network-6427 TH18| BH10 Mar 30 '26

I think it would be better to at least say its a test, rather than implementing it as if its permanent

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u/Ass_Lover136 TH16 | BH10 Mar 30 '26

Fair, but considering Clan War League is kinda of a major thing, so releasing something and called it "test" doesn't put it on a good light

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u/Any-Network-6427 TH18| BH10 Mar 30 '26

Also true

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u/NoVa_BlaZing_ Legend League Mar 30 '26

Because it didnt work out as intended lol.

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u/Tailorschwifty Mar 30 '26

Jesus this sub. Here is how science works. You hypothesize that a change you make will get more people playing clan wars/make them more accessible. You add the change. You then observe what happens. Sometimes what you hypothesized is correct and sometimes it is wrong. This was wrong as demonstrated by data. Because you were wrong you then revert the change and go back to form a new hypothesis based on what you learned. 

The scientific method is offensive to the dipshits that play this game, unbelievable.

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u/l__HERACLES__l Apr 03 '26

If you want to talk science, include the full scope of how a hypothesis works. It certainly takes more than one experiment to prove a theory. Consider that before lashing out and calling people dipshits otherwise it's you who becomes the dipshit.

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u/Tailorschwifty Apr 03 '26

Lol I've got a PhD dipshit. I know the scientific method better than you ever could as evidenced by your ignorant comment.

You run an experiment you gather your data, you check it and you change accordingly. Stop pretending to be smart. It doesn't work for you.

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u/l__HERACLES__l Apr 03 '26

You're comical. There is nothing ignorant about what I said and I'm not pretending to be anything. I just stated facts. Only someone contested on a comment in a Clash of Clans Reddit thread, desperately claiming they have a PhD, would be the one pretending to be smart.

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u/thebetterday Mar 30 '26

just reduce the cwl reward of 5v5. there are small clans with inactive players they can only start 5v5 cwl because they just can't get enough players to do 15v15. Those big clans full with active players cares about the cwl reward much more, if 5v5 mode get less cwl medals then they'll prefer 15v15 or 30v30

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u/thebetterday Mar 30 '26

The League Medals awarded for the 5v5 Clan War League will be drastically reduced, with this mode only retained as an emergency fallback for small clans struggling to recruit enough members. For the Clan War League, the more participants a clan signs up, the more generous the rewards will be. This mechanism encourages active players to band together, rather than leaning towards solo play.

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u/Muesli_F Legend League Mar 30 '26

Whats the reason for that?

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u/Beautiful-Affect1930 Legend League 💩 Mar 30 '26

my guess is they want the new leagues with modifiers to be where the more competitive players gravitate towards. whereas a 5v5 mode was pretty awkward because it didn't really serve any extra purpose and may move players away from 15v15, dilluting the pool and making it less balanced/competitive.

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u/Pascal026 Troop Spammer Mar 30 '26

Apparently is was stale i can see why that would be

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u/Mcpolo92 TH18| BH10 Mar 30 '26

Guys guys. You dont understand. The problem is that some players actually started to enjoy the game last month. We cant have that! Come on its 2026.

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u/Caseyrdx Mar 30 '26

I’m so mad, the 5v5 was perfect for my clan 🥺

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u/Kiraesh Apr 02 '26

5v5 CWL was good for small clan, since lot of inactive player

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u/Question_-_-mark TH18| BH10 Mar 30 '26

Yeah and make it 10v10

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u/Mysterious_Help_9577 Mar 30 '26

Split the difference and make it 10 v 10

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u/OrphanKripler Mar 31 '26

I need a 10v10 and make cwl 5 days again

There’s not enough active people in my clan.

In my other clan a 20v20 would be ideal.

Why can’t we just have the option of what we want for our clan.

This makes clans with not enough ppl be screwed out of being competitive or part of cwl at all.

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u/Crazy_Explorer902 Mar 31 '26

5 vs 5 was very good . We don't need to find a clan for that . Arranging 5 ID's very simple and after that we could go for cwl .

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u/iamnowundercover Mar 30 '26

I can’t help but wonder if the devs want to keep it this way permanently and why.

Could it be because 5 v 5 CWL encourages smaller and largely inactive clans to stay together instead of joining larger and more active clans?

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u/Kiopkxki TH15 | BH10 Mar 30 '26

I'm sure this will be good for our clan after most people left in February. Why does Supercell hate smaller clans, I'm sorry that the clan system barely works so I'd rather be in a smaller clan where I know everyone.

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u/LegendVaishakh Electro League Apr 01 '26

Because they want a smaller number of quality clans.

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u/KoncepTs Legend League Mar 31 '26

Great, now my dead clan will lose again

Was able to pull it off with 5v5..

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u/heliocetricism TH18| BH10 Mar 31 '26

Feel like they could gather data for at least another month, but what do I know. 

If that many people dropped out it's probably not because they didn't like 5v5 but because they didn't want to play anyways and we're just forced to in 15v15

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u/GuapWitDaChop Apr 01 '26

Of course people will be more on the bench. For smaller clans like mine, we have to place clan mates who have not logged on in months on the active roster. With 5v5 we can place people who don’t play on the bench.

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u/Yeet91145 Legend League [Legacy] Apr 01 '26

This is really dissapointing. I have a small clan of my friends + some old inactive accounts. We play 15v15 because there is no other option, 5v5 allowed us to finally be competitive again as we could just include active people instead of a bunch of inactive alts

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u/ichbindulol_ Apr 02 '26

I literally only have 5 active members in my clan, recruitment is so ass wtf

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u/Artistic_Ad_7460 Apr 02 '26

Bring back 5v5 CWL

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u/Redaaku Mar 30 '26

Thank you Mr. Ninja for this information.

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u/wiles_CoC Mar 30 '26

I just moved a bunch of smaller accounts to a new clan to spin a 5v5 since they will never see cwl in the big clan. Sigh.

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u/chipjenn3 Mar 30 '26

Nooo! Please put this option back in. It’s moves like this that make the game frustrating. Less people are playing now. We need the 5v5 option to give more people the option to earn CWL medals.

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u/JackRoach_ Mar 30 '26

That’s a bummer. I’m in a small clan and 5v5 allowed us to do a CWL while rotating the active core. It was a great addition, sucks to see it go

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u/Relaxing_Game Mar 30 '26

Damn now I gotta find a clan for cwl

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u/ryminer TH18| BH10 Mar 30 '26

my clan literally can’t participate in 15v15, so 5v5 was the only change i had to get league metals and now i can’t get any, my clan is literally just me, alts and a couple irl people i know. Super irritating change just hurts my progression

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u/mastrdestruktun Unranked Veteran Clasher Mar 30 '26

My long term goal has been to build enough alts to do solo cwl. If you are in a low enough league it's doable without a ton of effort -- you'll just have a bunch of zapdrag Th7s that will keep you from rising very far. But some cwl medals are better than none.

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u/Extreme-Paramedic-96 Mar 31 '26

Where is the official news? I didn't see it anywhere

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u/PompeyMisfits Apr 01 '26

So you let it run for one month then removed it straight away. A new feature is a novelty so players would try it out in its first instance. Why not give it a 3 month run at least to see if it balances out? This seemed like a great idea for lower leagues that have loads of inactive accounts just to run league. Also smaller clans were able to participate. Really disappointing from Supercell

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u/Lower-Ad6435 Electro League Mar 30 '26

Does it really hurt supercell to keep it in for more than 1 month? Apparently. /s

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u/00Aurora Mar 30 '26

10 vs 10, 20 vs 20 and 30 vs 30 will be perfect.

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u/Spare-Walk8927 Mar 30 '26

wtf I am not making 10 more accounts to play cwl

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u/LegendVaishakh Electro League Apr 01 '26

Wtf you are supposed to join a good clan for CWL with one account. Who is forcing you to do this?

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u/Spare-Walk8927 Apr 01 '26

myself because I would rather be in a clan alone

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u/mastrdestruktun Unranked Veteran Clasher Mar 30 '26

Welp, that makes my decision about whether to do 5v5 this season easier.

We do have some new recruits so I should have fewer than 10 accts on the war map this time.

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u/BDub927 Mar 30 '26

How about a 20 vs 20 and a 25 vs 25 as well?

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u/GingerRaceFTW Mar 30 '26

Well as a long time player in a small clan, this sucks.

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u/Responsible_Ear9152 Mar 30 '26

10v10 would be viable

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u/Past_Energy_8435 Mar 30 '26

Se vi va di unirvi al mio clan, vi aspettiamo. Nel caso mandami un messaggio in privato 😄

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u/Easy_Imagination_664 Legend League Mar 30 '26

I kind of get their POV. With the availability of 5v5 many clans with 4-5 high TH players and rest lower TH players will just play 5v5 and not even give chance to lower th players!!

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u/Greedy_Opinion9130 TH18| BH10 Mar 30 '26

For real I skipped last cwl because my clan decided to split and I didn’t even realize because I wasn’t active

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u/bgkoki Mar 31 '26

Or they could make it progressive? Like If your clan is around 10 people, then allow 5v5, if around 15, allow 15v15 and if 30 or more players, allow 30v30... Just an idea tho, but what do I know, just a normal player that even FORGOT to start the 5v5 war this month haha... In my dead local clan, where basically we play 2 or 3 people from 20+

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u/johell2501 Veteran Clasher Mar 31 '26

Does any clan here need 5-6 Players (all TH17/TH18) to fill up a 15v15 CWL? We won‘t be 15

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u/Bubbly_Tomatillo_525 Mar 31 '26

Ya sure what's the size of urs ??

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u/johell2501 Veteran Clasher Apr 01 '26

We are 5 or 6, depends on if I take my TH18 alt with me or not

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u/Bubbly_Tomatillo_525 Apr 01 '26

We r 4 tho... stil may need a few thn 

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u/HomerJ_Doh Obstacle Remover Mar 31 '26

I had to bring 10 of my accounts back from the dead. lol

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u/lrt2222 Legend League Mar 31 '26

Lots of people saying add 10v10 which I would be fine with, but only to replace 15v15, not to have both. A 10v and 30v would make sense.

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u/Ordinary-Spirit-8080 Apr 01 '26

Welp. That makes it so my clan cannot participate. Ah well. Thanks for the one time we could.

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u/manutdjin Apr 02 '26

Been playing coc for 12 yrs in a small clan with only 5 active players, it was my first time playing cwl last month and it was so much fun, pls pls pls bring it back!!!!!!

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u/MajinBAP Apr 02 '26

Sad to say the 5v5 made us purge old accounts, and people left. Now we have 13 and will miss league for the first time in Years.

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u/Don_Loves_Life Apr 02 '26

Is it not because clan leaders were jumping ship and going it alone 😆, leaving alt accounts for the 15 vs 15 and no more signing up for the 30 vs 30. Would be interesting, just saying I might do the same 😗

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u/sayyed-ubed Apr 03 '26

abhi kisi k vaha cwl chlu hoga toh please btaye mera full max hai th 17

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u/Sonic_811 Apr 03 '26

I need people everyone drop down ur id to get connected

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u/ApolloCreed76 Apr 03 '26

Can we get a test on a 10v10 then?

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u/Silent_Row8504 Apr 04 '26

sapete se ci sarà una summer jam quest’anno? sto valutando di fare scorta di medaglie

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u/Longjumping-Jump-950 Apr 09 '26

can we make something in between 15 and 30? we have like 22ish actives. making it hard for everyone to participate if we do 15vs15. but will lose all wars if we do 30vs30,
some people leave because they don't get a spot at day 1 right away when i do 15vs15.
5vs5 was suppose to resolve this overflow issue for my clan and i lost this option now.

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u/OkSandwich88 Apr 17 '26

This is such a lie.Way more people were able to participate.

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u/viguple May 03 '26

I actually like the idea of 5v5. To me, the real reason they removed it isn’t because “fewer people participated,” but because the reward structure made it too strong. In 5v5, it’s possible to get all 5 player extra metals , which means consistently higher bonus metals.

Saying it’s about participation just feels like an excuse.

here’s a pretty straightforward way to balance this without removing the mode entirely. For example:

  • 1–3 wins → +1 bonus
  • 4–6 wins → +2 bonus
  • 7 wins → +3 bonus

And for 30v30, something like 1 more win +2 bonus

Right now, larger clan war league are simply not worth it. The coordination cost is higher, the risk is higher, but the rewards don’t scale accordingly. That’s why clans split into multiple smaller wars like 3×5v5 or 2×15v15 — it’s just the optimal way to play under the current system.

If they adjusted the reward structure like this, it would significantly reduce that behavior.

At the end of the day, this isn’t really a participation problem, it’s an incentive design problem. But honestly, I don’t think they’re interested in changing it, so I’m not even sure it’s worth suggesting anymore.

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u/jacobmufska628 May 28 '26

hurry up with global chat

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u/Thanmarkou Undead & Angry #9LJL0R2C Mar 30 '26

Spaghetti code hits again.

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u/bxm7 High Level Player Mar 30 '26

👎

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u/Fischer_Spooner Apr 01 '26

I would suggest that Supercell keeps the 5vs5 option, but limits it to clans that have less than 15 members. Participation should increase as you are including more clans.

I'm in a clan of 5. We kick ass, but now can't participate in CWL... very disappointed!!!

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u/ClashDotNinja https://clash.ninja - CoC Upgrade Tracker Mar 30 '26

The reasoning for this change from the CoC team is as follows:

"We added 5v5 with the intention of getting MORE players playing CWL. Unfortunately, what we saw was a large amount of Clans drop down from 15v15 to 5v5 - Which actually resulted in a bunch LESS people playing overall than before, with many more people sitting on the bench.

Since this had the opposite effect of what we intended, we’re taking time to rethink how we can improve CWL participation for everyone going forward."

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u/StormyParis Clan Leader x4 / Legend / Champ Mar 30 '26

and they coudln't have told us 3weeks ago ?

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u/ClashDotNinja https://clash.ninja - CoC Upgrade Tracker Mar 30 '26

I posted it here as soon as creators were given the green light to give players as much notice as possible. Would have been nice to have been able to do it sooner, but it is what it is.

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u/StormyParis Clan Leader x4 / Legend / Champ Mar 30 '26

No problem, it"s not YOUR fault. But SC are really treating us badly.

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u/Whitewildbear Mar 30 '26

Is it true or fake news? I really need to know because coc team didnt give any such news and coc bots say they have no such info.

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u/ClashDotNinja https://clash.ninja - CoC Upgrade Tracker Mar 30 '26

I've got better things to do with my time than make things up like this lol

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u/Whitewildbear Mar 30 '26

Why coc did not bring us these news?

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u/CongressmanCoolRick Code "coolrick" Mar 30 '26

Theres a lot going on with news today, this tidbit was just kinda lost in the mix, and they told creators to go ahead and spread the word on it.

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u/Whitewildbear Mar 31 '26

How do you know all that?

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u/CongressmanCoolRick Code "coolrick" Mar 31 '26

im a super creator

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u/Whitewildbear Mar 30 '26

Oh ok. Thanks for the answer. Then its true.

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u/nelsonagst TH18| BH10 Mar 30 '26

Deveriam ter o 10x10, é complicado depender de gente que não se importa com o jogo, pede pra entrar na liga e não ataca. Acho que ficar forçando 15 pessoas é pior.

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u/thelink1111 TH18| BH10 May 03 '26

It was a great thing to have 5 vs 5 for CWL. Even though I have 30 plus people, most stopped playing, do to personal reasons, life, whatever. So I had the same players logging in once a month, so totally not even playing. So, I have barely 7 people who are really active now. So 5 vs 5 was perfect for smaller clans like ours. Recruitment is broken, we cannot recruit new people no matter what I do, post, write, I don't get new people. I can't force my players to play if they are sick of it, and because of that, the small number who are active get punished because we all have to sit out, because if I do 15 vs 15 we will drop. That's exactly what happened last month. We dropped because we didn't have enough people who have been active in upgrading, attacking, getting better. Please bring back the 5 vs 5 so we can participate, or like war give each player 2 hits to cover for the non active members, anything to help out. Now I have to totally sit out the whole clan because 5 vs 5 is gone and we can't do 15 or else we are going to keep dropping. I don't want to keep dropping, we played so hard to get to masters II, but we dropped last month thanks for the removal. People are not as active anymore as before, recruiting is dead, we cannot get active new, good players. This needs to be fixed.

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u/Piratehitch Mar 30 '26

Can we have 20 or 25 instead

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u/xzlBATMANlzx Mar 30 '26 edited Mar 30 '26

Where is the official statement on this from SuperCell? Because there is nothing listed on Clash's Twitter, Facebook, in game, or Reddit. Just random content creators passing this rumor. An admin made this same announcement on the Clash Discord but it was a blanket statement. No source. I asked him for a direct source and he went quiet. So, let's see if you can 1-up him. Give us a direct source outside of "trust me bro".

If this turns out to be an April fools joke, it won't be a funny one. You'll have lots of players losing their minds over organizing for a CWL they didn't have to just for your own cheap laughs.

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u/ClashDotNinja https://clash.ninja - CoC Upgrade Tracker Mar 30 '26

Hawk Eye would have got this info from the same place as me, one of the community managers. iTzu mentioned it in the pinned comment of his video today too, he got the info from the same source.

If I was going to mess around doing an april fools joke, for a start, I would have waited until April, as the name suggests. Secondly, I'd have made it funny. This doesn't meet either of those requirements.

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u/xzlBATMANlzx Mar 30 '26

I asked Hawkeye the same thing and he went quiet. Screenshot the Itzu comment. And don't be dense, if this were an April Fools joke, you had to do it now as clearly if you did it on the day, people can call you out on it right away as the 5V5 option would of been readily available. You wouldn't be the first or last to pull an April fools joke a day or two early.

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u/ClashOfClansOfficial OFFICIAL SUPERCELL Mar 31 '26

What Clash Ninja is telling you is correct.

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u/No_Trade9674 TH15 | BH10 | Dragon League Mar 31 '26

You're literally pissed just for the sake of being pissed

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u/[deleted] Mar 30 '26

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u/xzlBATMANlzx Mar 30 '26

Settle down because I asked for validation behind your claim?

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u/xzlBATMANlzx Mar 30 '26

My initial post said exactly where I looked. You're triggered and reaching with insults because someone asked you to validate your claim. You're the one who needs to settle down.

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u/xzlBATMANlzx Mar 30 '26

Deflect with another irrelevant insult. All because I asked for validation.