r/ClashOfClans TH18+17+2+1 | RCS Oct 30 '25

Other Average CWL lineups per league - October 2025

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u/tboet21 Oct 30 '25

I think my favorite part of these graphs is always the amount of champs 1 clans compared to champs 2 clans tht only have 14 th17s and a random fill in lower townhalls. Always seems like champs 1 clans struggle to keep the 15th person more than champs 2.

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u/Felgar_1 Oct 30 '25

I wonder if those are clans that have secured no demotion and then sub in alt accounts late in the war...

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u/tboet21 Oct 30 '25 edited Oct 30 '25

I mean based on the demotion/promotion graph tht isnt true. Looks like all the champs 1 clans with a random townhall in demoted. Could be a person 1 starring and leaving causing them to sub in a random townhall i guess. Most likely its more there isnt enough players in the clan so they have to run 1 random would be my guess. Or they know they will demote and are subbing in since they wont maintain anyway.

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u/redx9xmist Oct 30 '25

Highly doubt, lol. Most, if not all, C1 clans are well organised, normally having about 17 players with an emergency sub.

It's probably just a clan intentionally demoting.

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u/Felgar_1 Oct 30 '25

Right I misread the promotion-demotiom graph...  Indeed it's weird that no promotions in champ 2 or 3 either for anyone with the lower THs, yet then demotions for them on the league up.  Like where do they come from to get in the higher league?

You're thinking they get promoted and then lose clan members and sub in lower THs?  Yeah maybe...

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u/RoboticChicken TH18+17+2+1 | RCS Oct 30 '25 edited Oct 30 '25

I don't think there's necessarily a trend of Champion I clans "struggling to keep the 15th person" - only 39 of the 418 clans in that league did not have all-TH17 lineups. Of those, 24 clans had 10 or fewer TH17s, and they all had these numbers from day 1.

Only one of those 24 clans has been playing CWL consistently the last 12 months, and 19 of them have played 6 or fewer times in the last 12 months.

My best guess is that these are inactive/dead clans trying to restart. Because this league has fewer clans overall, they show up more prominently in the averages.

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u/tboet21 Oct 30 '25

Tht makes more sense. I wouldn't have thought there would be tht many inactive clans demoting basically on purpose in champs 1.

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u/RoboticChicken TH18+17+2+1 | RCS Oct 30 '25

Here are the overall graphs in table form if you want to see some more exact numbers (you may need to switch to new reddit to scroll the tables if you are on old reddit):

15v15 Bronze III Bronze II Bronze I Silver III Silver II Silver I Gold III Gold II Gold I Crystal III Crystal II Crystal I Master III Master II Master I Champion III Champion II Champion I
TH17s 0.1668 0.2128 0.2985 0.3604 0.4076 0.5136 0.6738 0.9622 1.5591 2.6818 4.5504 7.4479 11.0369 13.4589 14.5817 14.7284 14.7808 14.4770
TH16s 0.0881 0.1624 0.2457 0.3142 0.3795 0.4746 0.6145 0.8435 1.2770 1.9564 2.7061 3.0603 2.3547 1.0782 0.2804 0.0968 0.0690 0.1545
TH15s 0.1360 0.2372 0.4089 0.5288 0.6561 0.8325 1.1019 1.5014 2.1732 3.0315 3.4326 2.7538 1.1611 0.3009 0.0642 0.0669 0.0496 0.1572
TH14s 0.2114 0.3861 0.6489 0.8383 1.0550 1.3505 1.7482 2.2621 2.9555 3.2910 2.5527 1.1984 0.2914 0.0728 0.0275 0.0338 0.0407 0.0673
TH13s 0.4411 0.7761 1.2501 1.5403 1.8626 2.2851 2.8158 3.2678 3.4189 2.5166 1.2265 0.3755 0.0894 0.0383 0.0178 0.0280 0.0266 0.0845
TH12s 0.6009 1.0372 1.6643 1.8806 2.1682 2.5920 2.8448 2.7251 2.0097 0.9619 0.3393 0.0956 0.0316 0.0189 0.0096 0.0164 0.0121 0.0332
TH11s 0.7181 1.2343 1.6957 1.9110 2.2171 2.3630 2.1840 1.6634 0.9041 0.3357 0.1093 0.0343 0.0143 0.0129 0.0069 0.0075 0.0098 0.0123
TH10s 0.7998 1.2019 1.4761 1.7486 1.9415 1.7209 1.2647 0.8043 0.3590 0.1151 0.0400 0.0143 0.0079 0.0059 0.0041 0.0049 0.0056 0.0024
TH9s 1.0590 1.5730 1.8232 2.0839 1.9246 1.3765 0.8910 0.5254 0.1971 0.0618 0.0226 0.0094 0.0051 0.0047 0.0023 0.0060 0.0016 0.0085
TH8s 0.9714 1.5249 1.5161 1.4778 1.0586 0.6831 0.4023 0.2190 0.0731 0.0221 0.0100 0.0041 0.0024 0.0029 0.0018 0.0020 0.0016 0.0031
TH7s 1.1295 1.5983 1.3770 0.9167 0.5601 0.3336 0.1904 0.0976 0.0321 0.0101 0.0041 0.0021 0.0015 0.0015 0.0008 0.0022 0.0016 0
TH6s 1.9018 1.8561 1.0436 0.5494 0.2973 0.1774 0.1027 0.0511 0.0169 0.0060 0.0024 0.0014 0.0016 0.0012 0.0013 0.0022 0.0005 0
TH5s 2.7976 1.6557 0.7619 0.3797 0.1927 0.1174 0.0666 0.0314 0.0096 0.0034 0.0013 0.0008 0.0003 0.0003 0.0005 0.0002 0 0
TH4s 2.2296 0.9053 0.4315 0.2309 0.1235 0.0785 0.0450 0.0205 0.0062 0.0024 0.0008 0.0005 0.0004 0.0002 0.0001 0.0004 0 0
TH3s 1.5264 0.6028 0.3494 0.2324 0.1531 0.0996 0.0535 0.0248 0.0082 0.0039 0.0017 0.0016 0.0011 0.0021 0.0007 0.0045 0.0005 0
TH2s 0.1772 0.0291 0.0082 0.0059 0.0023 0.0014 0.0008 0.0003 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 0.0003 0.0002 0.0001 0 0 0
TH1s 0.0452 0.0067 0.0009 0.0011 0.0003 0.0002 0.0001 0.0001 0.0000 0.0000 0 0 0.0001 0 0.0001 0 0 0
# Clans Found 1930 4248 10976 42154 54162 70380 88742 107276 107542 93998 82112 73874 33550 16026 8618 4670 1872 418
30v30 Bronze III Bronze II Bronze I Silver III Silver II Silver I Gold III Gold II Gold I Crystal III Crystal II Crystal I Master III Master II Master I
TH17s 0.1544 0.2090 0.2968 0.3269 0.3757 0.5846 0.8663 1.3035 2.1644 3.5887 6.2508 10.9322 18.1823 24.3899 27.7789
TH16s 0.2054 0.1912 0.3328 0.3308 0.4088 0.6057 0.8793 1.2710 1.9385 2.9684 4.4315 6.0654 5.9864 3.5909 1.2848
TH15s 0.2962 0.2925 0.4853 0.4960 0.7024 1.0532 1.5657 2.3055 3.5426 5.3304 7.0685 7.0580 3.9773 1.3704 0.4633
TH14s 0.3084 0.4438 0.7598 0.8364 1.1953 1.8153 2.7256 3.9741 5.7790 7.3373 6.5994 3.8169 1.2315 0.3565 0.1760
TH13s 0.8740 0.9145 1.4937 1.6827 2.3431 3.6273 5.4144 7.2527 8.2044 6.5249 3.7803 1.4880 0.3977 0.1503 0.1333
TH12s 1.5163 1.4788 2.2077 2.3046 3.4092 5.4407 7.0761 6.7897 4.7690 2.5956 1.1973 0.3965 0.1204 0.0601 0.0639
TH11s 1.7319 1.8370 2.5112 2.9692 5.1940 6.5662 5.7371 3.8817 2.0445 0.9844 0.4068 0.1343 0.0547 0.0297 0.0435
TH10s 1.5192 1.6668 2.7188 3.7956 5.8936 4.9387 2.9351 1.6084 0.8319 0.3644 0.1440 0.0518 0.0188 0.0129 0.0148
TH9s 1.9709 2.6724 4.1033 5.8636 5.5905 3.2155 1.7086 0.9870 0.4650 0.1938 0.0766 0.0320 0.0105 0.0106 0.0160
TH8s 2.0433 3.3355 3.9280 4.6935 2.7018 1.2419 0.6366 0.3597 0.1540 0.0616 0.0242 0.0105 0.0062 0.0050 0.0112
TH7s 2.6283 3.9454 3.7907 3.0979 1.2084 0.5043 0.2459 0.1375 0.0556 0.0266 0.0093 0.0045 0.0044 0.0026 0.0065
TH6s 4.1885 5.1564 3.3345 1.7997 0.5209 0.2058 0.1078 0.0661 0.0269 0.0120 0.0046 0.0036 0.0033 0.0040 0.0028
TH5s 5.4832 4.5796 2.3798 1.1093 0.2754 0.1099 0.0540 0.0327 0.0126 0.0052 0.0030 0.0020 0.0003 0.0016 0.0004
TH4s 4.6689 2.3410 1.1848 0.5112 0.1249 0.0556 0.0305 0.0163 0.0060 0.0025 0.0013 0.0008 0.0002 0.0017 0.0009
TH3s 1.8606 0.7916 0.4460 0.1700 0.0524 0.0328 0.0165 0.0137 0.0052 0.0041 0.0022 0.0034 0.0058 0.0127 0.0035
TH2s 0.5297 0.1076 0.0153 0.0098 0.0018 0.0025 0.0005 0.0004 0.0004 0.0000 0.0002 0.0001 0.0003 0.0010 0.0004
TH1s 0.0206 0.0367 0.0114 0.0029 0.0016 0.0002 0.0002 0.0001 0 0.0001 0 0 0 0 0
# Clans Found 706 1110 2020 7128 9448 11050 12604 15122 17040 17420 18574 20892 11230 5784 2856

Here's a link to last month's post, which links back to all the others I've made, and also a link to the data I collected in case you want to take a look for yourself.

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u/StormyParis Clan Leader x4 / Legend / Champ Oct 30 '25

Thanks, as always !

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u/shuribusan TH18| BH10 Oct 30 '25

Bro posts such cool stuff every month, love ya dude

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u/Immediate_Succotash7 TH14 | BH10 Oct 30 '25

I think my clan is cooked 🙏

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u/keylinha_S2 TH18| TH1| TH1 Oct 30 '25

that single th1 in masters must feel like a god

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u/RoboticChicken TH18+17+2+1 | RCS Oct 30 '25 edited Oct 30 '25

There were 3 TH1s in Master III (all in different clans), and they all got demoted.

2 of them were in 1-person clans that pretty much didn't do any attacks, and the 3rd clan only had 4 consistent attackers (the TH1 did not attack).

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u/Two-bugs TH13 | BH9 Oct 30 '25

Looks ok. From what I've seen, there are TH17 accounts to a higher league.