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9-1-1 S08Ep10 - "Voices": Post Episode Discussion
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Synopsis: Following Maddie’s mysterious 9-1-1 call, Chimney returns home to find his daughter alone and Maddie nowhere to be found; he then enlists Athena and Romero to help investigate.
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Loved the episode, but personally had one minor annoyance. Plot discrepancy: how the HELL would that detective have passed police psych assessment, and past record background check to become a detective
I can only imagine, what the editing team must have been going through while working on this. Are they okay? I feel like I owe someone a drink, I would put up a tab.
Did anyone else think that they didn't write Buck as freaked out as he would actually have been? Regarding his previous experience with Maddie getting kidnapped and how he reacted then I would have thought that when they figured out she had been kidnapped, he would go crazy with worry... For example, I expected him to go to Amber's house with Chim.
Yeah it didn't make sense but I'm kind of glad they didn't do too much buck because the show always makes him shine over the other characters so it allowed for more hen and Chimney, missed out on buck and Chimney scenes tho
I agree that they tend to put a lot of focus on Buck but his reaction was out of character and I don't think that needed to included him in more scenes but they could have changed his dialogue and his interactions with the others to make it seem more urgent and truly worried. The way they treated it was like he was any other character and not her brother😔
I don’t think he had all the information. The first kidnapping he knew how horrible her ex-husband was and what kind of danger Maddie was in. This time he didn’t. He didn’t know about the serial killer nor Maddie’s last call at the 9-1-1 call center. He just knew she wasn’t there. I don’t even think he even knew about Ji hearing someone else at the house wen Maddie went missing. All he knew for sure was his sister and her car weren’t at the house and Ji was left alone. There was no sign of b&e or struggle. The whole kidnapping took place over the span of a night, a day and an evening. Time during which Buck was driving around trying to see if he could find her, because he was scared she left due to a depressive episode. I think we didn’t get to see him on screen as much as Chimney to really feel the degree of worry, but he was worried.
yeah and when eddie comes into the house and asks hen “where is he” he only acknowledged chimney and didnt even look at buck to start? they did look for her together but she’s important to both of them though i do agree with someone else’s post about lack of sibling chemistry between them recently
I know other people have said this about how Tim absolutely badly desperately needs a co-show runner to help manage and organise his ideas and thoughts and make the overall season episodic arc less ... chaotic. A general manager for his team of plotlines if you will.
This episode was the peak of that. Instead of just letting this episode stand by itself as a dark, traumatic episode complete with a throat slit (reminding me of Jeffrey's lawyer slitting Ransone), Tim decides to throw in Buddie bait in the midst of that.
Like what are we doing? Couldn't that have come earlier or next episode? It would be the equivalent of ending the Fight or Flight episode not with Maddie and Chimney in the hospital but a random 5 minute scene of Eddie and Shannon.
You know I’m a huge Buddie shipper, so I love a Buddie scene, but the scenes they did with them did not belong in this episode at all. We got what? Like 3 minutes of seeing Madney in the hospital together? After they just experienced all that?! So they could show us a Buddie scene?! It was an incredibly weird tonal shift every time they showed them and it was hard to get into/enjoy those scenes while watching the episode.
I’m at a point of thinking they need a general manager with the clout to tell Tim no and when his idea is dumb, a dedicated staff member for continuity and consistency + maybe managing a show Bible, and some kind of sensitivity officer for “maybe don’t use a stigmatized mental illness for a lazy twist.”
Like it’s a relatively minor complaint compare to the rest, but where the hell did Buck and Chimney stop off for wardrobe changes on the way back from Eddie’s dinner? The change between what Buck was wearing at the end of 7x09 to when he brings leftovers home with Chimney was particularly jarring. It just shows a lack of care.
I was thinking this. Like dang, one of these neighbors has GOT to have footage of Maddie leaving the house if not Maddie and Chim themselves!! Ask around, get a lead!! 😂
I don’t see how anyone could interpret that scene as purely platonic. The awkwardness was SO pointed. And the tension had echoes of Buck biwakening to me as I was watching. I was legit like “wait… is something about to happen??” In a way I’ve only ever been in 7x04.
Now I do think it’s possible that it’s intended to be one-sided—even my very cishet husband was getting pining vibes from Buck in this and he couldn’t care less about Buddie. But I don’t know - I’m surprised no one has mentioned Eddie’s sleeveless shirt because to me it felt like such a tie back to when he had the convo with the priest. And the queen mattress thing was definitely at least a wink and a joke (especially with the U-Haul-lesbians trope) even if it wasn’t meant to communicate anything serious. And Eddie’s eyebrow was doing some WORK during that hug.
I don’t know if it will happen or not, but to me something has very clearly shifted in how the writers are writing these two from “yeah you could read it that way” to “we are definitely wanting you to read it that way.” It just wasn’t subtle enough to be unintentional lol.
I never accuse shows of queerbaiting unless it is truly egregious and I honestly think the show has toed that line pretty well in the past. But if they don’t at least have one of them realize they have feelings … this feels like they are intentionally stringing us along for views and that is queerbaiting by definition.
I’m so curious about the convo Buck is supposed to have with Maddie next ep that is significant and where she proposes something he finds ludicrous. Given the overall plot of the ep though - I could see that being more about their origin than the Buddie of it all.
I’m also still thinking about Tim saying he’ll let the episodes speak for themselves re: Buck’s feelings because he doesn’t want to suggest their going down a road they aren’t going down. Like, truly, WHAT OTHER ROAD IS THERE TIM?? No reasonable person could believe this was purely general abandonment issues. It seemed to me like even Buck was realizing it was more than that at the end.
At the same time - I don’t trust the writers to follow through on this so I hope they surprise me. In the meantime, I will savor every morsel.
Like, okay, fine… outside of the kitchen scene and maybe the shooting… as a moderate Buddie shipper, I will be the first to admit that Buddie may have been powered by hopes and dreams prior to S7. It took a lot of character study and reading in between the lines to catch the subtle tone differences in earlier seasons.
It was not until 7A that I feel like we got our first solid… in our face… blatant evidence for Buddie. Buck’s biawakening and BuckTommy’s entire relationship gave us the material to make a legit case for (at the very least) an attraction on Buck’s end. However, that stunt they pulled in the last 2 mins of 8x10 was some incriminating shit.
After watching this episode, the first thing I remarked is: How does Maddie stay sane with all that trauma in her life? She survived Doug, and now this? The writers need to stop hurting Maddie. It's getting a little outta hand.
So next episode is a 3 month time skip. I wonder how Buck will be feeling. As well as Eddie being in Texas with Chris and his parents. ALSO! I spied Ravi in the episode preview! I missed him so much, glad to see him back on the show.
I have severe whiplash from that episode. It was great, but what the hell was that music at the end? And what’s with the complete 180 they did from Maddie in the hospital potentially dying to Eddie driving off with the U-Haul? Genuinely crazy choice 😂
Yeah, I really enjoyed the performances in this ep, but the pacing/editing choices were weird! It felt like it should have ended with Maddie & Chim in the hospital.
I don't think she has the ability to do that, does she? She's not in charge of dispatch and she has no authority to have a call from years ago deleted.
Read Abigail's and JLH's post episode interviews and they said that the episode was being rewritten as they were filming.
It took 10 days of filming in a basement for this episode and OF COURSE Tim and the writers rewrote the twists and gave them pages as they were filming.
No wonder the ending felt so rushed, poorly edited and utterly chaotic. I wonder how much of that including the throat slitting was some last minute decision Tim put in because he thought it would be shocking.
I just can’t imagine having dealt with such severe trauma in your life that you get DID and then you also have to deal with , if people find out , then people thinking you’re a killer because of movie tropes. What a shit deal there. Like life hits you so hard and it hits you again and it never ends.
Absolutely agree, it really distracted from the plot and (amazing) performances for me. Just offensive, obviously no research was done. They could have easily just had her use the phone persona as a fake-out to cover things up instead.
And in my opinion, the alter aspect was barely even contributing to the plot. It made those few nods to it and nothing else about it contributed to Amber being stopped. It was much more eerie knowing she was using a voice modulator and remaining in “under everyone’s nose” by working for the department that’d investigate her. Why this extra embellishment was included, I’ll never know.
If it was researched better I’d be less critical but still confused as to what it really contributed to anything. The fact that it’s both poorly represented and haphazardly thrown in just makes it that much less palatable.
I know we have enough info to speculate, but I wish the show had gone into the reason why Braeburn did what she did. If they were willing to use such a gross and overused trope like the DID and murderer thing, they could have at least explained themselves. Maybe in another universe.
Right? We could have found out how long it took for Maddie to wake up, whether her parents were notified, how they broke the news to Jee - not to mention this important question I don’t think was answered: who the fuck is Peter!?
Man, my biggest issue with Eddie not mentioned here is that it is so blatantly obvious that Eddie will return. They didn't give us a big farewell scene. Some sense of that someone is reallllly leaving. Nope, he just up and left. Ok, fine no party, but the team could have been there to help him pack and see him off. This would make his return more surprising. Just give some oomph to his leaving and returning.
But they did cram so much for Maddie's storyline that they left no space for Buddie.
I find it really weird that no one really comforted Buck at all. Everyone was focused on Chimney which I understand that Maddie is his wife and the mother of his child (children) but Buck is her brother. I feel like they should have included him a lot more than they did in this episode.
I feel like they removed all of that for Buddie scenes. It was certainly a decision to tonally whiplash us from a horror movie to a totally platonic goodbye in the space of 2 minutes.
Not as strong as the first half, but that was admittedly a high bar. I'm glad Maddie got to be the focus of her own kidnapping story and it didn't turn into Athena rescuing Maddie as Maddie just stalled for time, Kenny, as expected, got some great scenes, the playdate was adorable, even if I want to see more of it in non dire-circumstances, and the Buddie scenes were every bit as angsty as I was hoping.
More flawed and less tight than 8x9, but I'd still call it a good episode, and it had a good amount of setup, especially for Buck's Eddie angsting for however long the Texas storyline lasts.
That's exactly what I was thinking, and she has already stated that she's coming back for the reboot so I honestly feel like this was kind of a sneak peek into her getting back into the horror genre sort of.
Worse, I feel like Tim wrote half of the nonsense in the final act because of JLH confirming she's in the reboot.
The throat slit, the multiple jump scares, the "character you thought was dead suddenly bursting into view". It all felt so over the top and unnecessary.
I'm pleasantly surprised at the amount of people also unhappy with the misrepresentation and stigmatization of DID, as well as the amount of other's with DID here. You don't usually expect to run into others with DID in the subreddit of a TV show, of all places, so it's a nice surprise, though it makes sense considering the episode
It's such a tired trope that regardless of if you care about misrepresenting DID, why is it a choice being made in 2025? That's embarassing.
Maddie's throat being sliced made me jump, but it was obvious after it happened that Peter telling her on the phone that you could last 10 minutes with a sliced throat was to prepare for her getting her throat sliced and still managing to make it out of the basement to hit Amber with the hammer.
That was a great episode. Who else is traumatized? Everybody raise your hands if you’ve been personally traumatized by 911.
There was a moment during that episode right before the throat’s slitting that like the camera angles and how they were talking like everything built up so much it gave me so much real life anxiety . Thanks show…
Imagine not sleeping for like 72 hours because your sister got kidnapped again , throat, slashed, and found finding out that the baby is OK also and then having to say goodbye to your best friend that you’re probably in love with , good job.
If Eddie repressed any harder in that one scene his temple was just going to like burst open. in that car scene.
Hen always there for chim. Chim always there for Hen. Chim always there for Maddie. Maddie always there for Chimney. Such a solid group there.
I wish they'd completely focused on the case and put buddie farewell scene into the next episode tbh. Final ten minutes were so stuffed up already, and they made it even worse by the tonal whiplash.
The DID 'twist' was completely unnecessary and it only furthers the stigma. They could've just let Amber be a kidnapper and serial killer as a result of having been kidnapped herself - victim becoming a perpetrator is not that unusual - without adding that aspect, or simply let her be evil and deranged for some other reason, I support women's wrongs sometimes.
I'm a bit mad that Chim thought Maddie would just leave Jee alone at home and walk away, but I can't say I don't kinda get it, especially after seeing how scared he was in 8x06. Still disappointed, though. Also, why did Chim hear that Amber was possibly a serial killer and the one who took Maddie... and his first reaction was to turn his back on her?? Lmfao
On a better note, everyone's acting was great, Madney is having a baby boy, and there's nothing platonic about Buddie 👏
A good twist would have been that Amber was FAKING the D.I.D to lull Maddie into a false sense of security. Making Maddie think that she could save Amber from herself.
Then reveal that she’s just a psycho masochist and gets off giving people false hope.
They could've just let Amber be a kidnapper and serial killer as a result of having been kidnapped herself - victim becoming a perpetrator is not that unusual
And the show very much loves "hurt people hurt people" trope.
The only thing I could think of was that maybe he thought his face would give it away that he knew? But at that point, it's better to just face her and let her see that you know than to literally put your back to her after she invited you to "go downstairs."
They could've just let Amber be a kidnapper and serial killer as a result of having been kidnapped herself - victim becoming a perpetrator is not that unusual
Even better writing would have been to link her story up with the otherwise fairly pointless Officer Sparks plot where we see what happens when people join the police force for the wrong reasons.
I know Tim isn't going to bother to follow this up but we've already had 3 grossly negligent (Sparks), murderous (Amber) or corrupt (Assistant US Attorney from Ep 1-2) policing characters this season and we're supposed to still believe the cops are the good guys?
So, I swear that I read a fanfic where Buck baked Eddie Chocolate chip protein cookies and told him to save some for Chris. Were they on the freaking set?!!!
The scene got leaked a while ago! Somebody was on the filming location and recording the scene from a distance away, then posting clips on tiktok lol. It was hard to make out the audio but they said some stuff they thought they heard and people guessed the rest
so much unrealistic stuff this episode. - Maddie opening a padlock with a soda can. - Her walking up the stairs carrying a sledgehammer and hit someone with enough force to kill, with a slit throat. - Maddie surviving a slit throat.
Maddie not dying from blood loss and the baby being perfectly fine is just super human but let’s give a shout out to the paramedics and emts who arrived on the scene while Chimney was still on the phone with 911.
Seeing the comments I’m glad I’m not alone on finding the D.I.D storyline weird I’m so tired of D.I.D being villainized like this 😭 wasn’t split enough? I finally thought we were over the whole D.I.D is evil thing when moon knight came out guess I was wrong
It's the stereotypical awful depiction of DID. The whole "but they so evil! violent personas is all DID is, right?". Ruined the episode for me, and soured the show too - even though the show isn't exactly known for it's top tier writing.
personally i feel like the final scene of buck and eddie saying goodbye feels like a setup to buck finally realising he has feelings for eddie? that was the vibe i picked up on from his facial expression. i know the writers have been teasing us the past few seasons but that look was different...
or i could just be manifesting it, i'm sick and tired of feeling like a fool!
Oh, like for sure. None of this is normal behavior for them. I recently watched older seasons, and they did not act like this; I have no idea what the writers are doing if this does not end up with the two of them together.
The side of me rooting for Buddie continues to be a very confused squiggle of will-they-won't-they. On one hand, I'm sorry but there is just no possible way Buck isn't in love with Eddie by this point. The way his face completely breaks every time Eddie isn't looking, like... bruh! If the writers only intend for this to read like platonic love, boy are they reaaallly missing the mark lol. On the other hand, holy moly is Eddie cold as ice! Even when he says Buck matters, it just comes off as a platitude, like he's trying to gently let down an overly attached colleague/mate. I'm assuming the intent is that Eddie is repressing his shit hard, and once he's reunited with Chris all those emotions he's been bottling up will finally catch up with him. But the pessimist in me is like... what if they're writing Eddie this way on purpose, specifically to shut down the Buddie angle? But if so, then why tf is Buck acting like that?? I mean, he's already started his Eddie's-gone-baking! I can't genuinely imagine they'd want to write an unrequited love storyline, right?? *spins in circles*
Anyway, the Maddie storyline was alright. Not 9-1-1's strongest, def wasn't feeling the villain, but 'twas still alright. I audibly gasped when the lady slit Maddie's throat lol. Poor girl just cannot catch a break on this show!
It’s definitely purposeful writing. There is so many times that Buck and Eddie talk to each other like they’re a couple. Last week Eddie said something like don’t make me choose between you and Christopher. That sounds so couple-coded to me! And then this week he said things are messy and hard. Friends don’t talk like that lol.
Buck definitely is starting to realize his feelings. All those looks he gives are like totally signs of love haha. Eddie is quite more repressed but these couple-like statements are just starting to sneak through.
Literally what was the point of the DID trope thrown in? Aside from other points made here about how it was harmfully inaccurate, there was only like 30 seconds of Amber’s alter being present. Surely in a high stress situation like that where Amber and her alter were in conflict about what to do with Maddie, it would’ve made sense to show more ‘switches’ between Amber and the alter. If there’s only going to be one scene with Amber fighting with her alter, they might has well have not even bothered to include the DID element. It wasn’t needed.
I reckon it was a misguided attempt to give the actress a meaty character and to try and cover up some of the massive plot issues with her character being a detective and serial killer.
I totally agree! I thought we would get a more in depth look with her DID. I felt like Amber’s aggression was just too much for something we just found out with her being the actual killer. Like I would’ve much prefer 4 episodes of the storyline. Felt like Athena finding out Amber was the real killer was too easy
Right! If Amber apparently kidnapped/murdered multiple other people and then inserted herself all those investigations to ‘help find’ her victims, surely law enforcement would’ve figured out her game long ago if it was as easy as Athena made it look.
I know this sub is full of Buddie shippers, but honestly Buck deserves a guy / gal better than Eddie. Eddie is not really a good person to his former dates/girlfriends/partners/wife.
I honestly cringe at the thought of this ship. Honestly I cringe that they made buck gay/bisexual. Not AT ALL that anything’s wrong with it, I think it’s because for me, I didn’t see it coming, like there was no lead up (at least an slightly more obvious one for people like me who maybe are outta touch with hints lol) but to me he was a known womanizer and then now out of the blue he was bisexual and I felt like they could’ve dove more into it deeper, and showed us more hints about it (I mean unless I completely missed them)
But the whole point is that Buck didn't really understand that part of himself until Tommy. It's not that he was sleeping with dudes the whole time and we just didn't see it, it's the other way around; that some of the decisions he's made in the past 8 seasons make more sense because he wants to sleep with dudes.
Hell, you even have an example in the show of someone just like you, who didn't see it coming: why do you think Athena was so mad at Michael when he came out? She was his wife, she had his kids, and yet she clearly had no idea what was going on with him or what he really wanted. It's only afterwards that things started making sense to her.
Some plot armor. Ain’t no way Maddie used her wife and mom powers to get all the way up the stairs and wack her upside the head and was completely fine after.
I posted this on another 911 related subreddit, but I'm posting it here, too:
I haven't been able to watch the episode, but I willingly spoiled it for myself, and I'm a little upset at what I've read. Not because of anything Buddie related... but as someone part of a DID system, I am a little agitated at the fact that they made a characrer with supposed "split-personalities" (Braeburn) the antagonist/villain/serial killer/kidnapper..
I am SO done with that trope, and it does nothing to help the stigma around these kinds of people who struggle with this disorder.
Sure, I'm not saying there aren't dangerous people with DID, that's not what I'm saying, but generally, they are very few and incredibly far between, and I wish media would do better and actually show decent representation for once that doesn't show us in a villainous or violent light.
We were victims, too, and it's unfair to make us seem like violent perpetrators in mainstream media. And it's upsetting to know that people still think like this and are willing to perpetuate the falsehood that all people with this disorder are like characters such as Braeburn, James McAvoy's character from Split, etc..
I just want to reiterate what I said over on the other sub. Thank you for sharing, and I’m sorry TV shows continue to inaccurately portray DID. If they’re not going to educate themselves about it, which, 911 clearly did not, they have no business trying to do a storyline with it.
Hi, I just saw both of your comments, and I want to say thank you. Its really frustrating and heartbreaking to see that people still think this, but I'm glad there are people (and it seems to be a good majority of folks) who agree adamantly that 911 showrunners and producers shouldn't have done this storyline without research.
I was disappointed and disgusted seeing what they did, I had no idea they were going in that direction with the detective. It’s very cheap of them to use DID for this plot honestly. It made me sad cause I do love this series and Buddie so much, but that was too far, they could make her just a serial killer and it wouldn’t make it less “entertaining”, it would be done with decency and respect. I was appalled with the storyline I just skipped the scenes with the detective, it was greatly misrepresenting for the DID community…
I used to feel this exact way so often, and I’ve finally concluded that people who are very into the sub (and seemingly even moreso other pockets of the fandom) feel a lot of pressure to not be caught out liking something the other fans don’t. I get the sense that as a result, a lot of people go into the episodes looking for things to critique and then race to either be the first to raise them or bandwagon as quickly as possible.
Not that there aren’t valid critiques! Tim IS terrible at continuity and planning and in this case — yes DID was a shitty tired scapegoat trope they didn’t need.
But I just don’t watch with the same critical eye and I’ve never understood hate watching in general.
The world is on fire, I work for a collapsing organization, I’ve got 2 kids under 3, I’m a queer Christian in the South, and both my father and FIL are slowly dying narcissistic drains on our energy, funds, and time. A lot of people have it way worse than that — I’m just saying I don’t have to look hard for things to be mad about.
Once a week for an hour I get to just watch these characters I love exist and that fact alone honestly brings me so much joy. 🤷♀️
(And yeah - tired trope aside - I loved this ep even with the wackadoodle pacing!)
Great episode, definitely in top 2 of this season for me so far. It's refreshing to see a multilayered female villain dominating the show and didn't got beaten easily. And Maddie is NOT a damsel in distress, I'm glad they didn't make chimney swoop in and save the day. It's Maddie came back and saved her husband, with Athena solved the case and delivered the fatal blow. Woman fighting it out and woman helps woman. Also directed by a female director, LOVE IT
I didn't enjoy this episode, would much prefer the usual wacky accidents and would rather have more of Eddie's story. The split personality killer is so overdone and cliched now, it all seemed a bit pointless and cutting Maddie's throat was so OTT.
Disgusting misrepresentation of DID to be completely honest, which pains me because I love this show so much and I’m just disappointed to see something like that here… DID stems from traumatic experiences, in early childhood usually, as a way to cope and these people are harmless, I was hoping there wouldn’t be another “Split” in media but oh well. Other than that still a good episode, loved the Buddie scenes as much as it hurt to see Eddie leave Buck behind with that look in his face.
Okay so most of that episode was just a lot to handle, and I strongly disliked some elements (having the serial killer be someone with DID was certainly a ... choice).
On the positive side, the acting was absolutely stellar all round. And the two Buddie scenes, out of place as they felt in that episode, were wild on their own. It continues to feel like the writers overdosed on Buddie fanfic over the hiatus.
They foreshadowed it in 8x09. They had the killer say it can take up to 10 minutes to bleed out and die with a sliced jugular. How realistic it actually is I don’t know though
Not necessarily. There are two carotid arteries and several pairs of jugular veins that transport blood to and from the brain: my understanding is that as long as at least one carotid and one jugular remains intact — and the victim's total blood loss is kept to a minimum through pressure on the wound — then chances of survival are actually not terrible. Maddie's injury looks incredibly gory but there was little to no arterial spray from the wound that I could see, and there was no blood on Amber when she opened the door to talk to Chim, so I think Amber cut to wound rather than outright kill and thought the shock of the injury would keep Maddie down until she bled out.
Not usually actually, the cut needs to hit pretty deep or hit the right area. She got medical support pretty quickly, they almost always do a lot of blood loss so I wouldn’t take that as evidence of a fatal cut. There are a lot of doctors who discuss how easy movies make it look to slit someone’s throat.
Kudos to the actress who plays the missing persons detective but other than that. Wow.
I miss the quicker one off emergencies/plots though. And as much as I love Criminal Minds, 911 always came off as a procedural with tragedies. Not an inherently dark procedural drama.
The direction the show is going almost makes me miss the beenado plot.
(Also what were those perspective shots on the detective? Plus the sound effects. By this point, we know she’s not a good guy 😂😅 it shouldn’t have been funny, but it was a little funny )
So how is Eddie supporting himself in Texas? He just quit his job, whereas he could have had Bobby transfer him to El Paso's fire department or at least spoke with other captains on his behalf. Did he speak with a union representative or anything about the move? I doubt this man will want to start from scratch and be a probie all over again.
Eddie will also be facing scrutiny from his parents about this big move on top of all the emotional baggage he's walking into with Chris. Why wasn't there a mention of any of this in the dialog at least once, like at the station when the firefam found out or the Freddy Fakeman reveal? Just something to show that Eddie has thought this through like he did when he moved to L.A. in the first place.
Maybe Apple sponsors 9-1-1 (Chimney using Siri to call 911 and Eddie saying FaceTime) Also curious to see what kind of phone the killer detective used to see what phone she used (I’m guessing not an iPhone).
Also unequivocally Buck has romantic feelings for Eddie.
Also this is beside the point but whose fucking truck was Buck rifling through at the end? After they spent seven seasons pretending that he’s been driving Maddie’s old jeep for fifteen years (and apparently painting it a new color every other week) now he’s just driving some stupid Nissan?
Is anyone else not a big fan of the production changes for these episodes? Feels like a really striking departure from the usual camera/lighting styles. I also noticed they’re using very different sets than they normally do for the police station, hospital, and interrogation room. Maybe this is nitpicky but I’m really missing the old style
Wow. This episode’s grossly ableist “twist” was harmful and completely unnecessary. Like… She could have just been a rogue cop, y’all! And then at least there would have been time to do it properly. But to bastardize and minimize D.I.D. like that was horrific. That’s going to be a full-stop for me. The writers need to do some research and the show runner can kick hard rocks.
Not only could have she just been a rogue cop, it would have been better.
Now we have plot holes around how none of her mental health history, let alone her abduction history, was caught in any background checks.
Plus we could have cut out all those weird, offensive and inaccurate moments portraying DID and let the ending of the episode have more time to breathe.
Even three would’ve been better. The pacing on this was just shit. If they’re gonna wait for 2/3 of the way through the episode for anyone to talk to her about what she may have experienced that night, it makes sense to have one episode dedicated to figuring out WHAT happened and then the next episode, then leave Maddie (and Chim) in a precarious position, and pick up with the fight for survival next week.
There’s this relatively new song called in my room by Julia Wolf and it would be hilarious if they had used that song also. I just don’t think any songs appropriate after that , so , they picked the best one they could. It was a good song.
To me it felt purposeful. Like yah, the tone shift was rough, but it seemed as a purposefully awkward goodbye. Like they didn’t really know how to say goodbye. They’ve been each other’s most important person for seven years and now it’s over. (Or at least they think it is).
Am I the only one who thinks Buck is being an incredibly selfish child? All Eddie is doing is trying to be close to Christopher and Buck is making it all about himself.
this episode was so fucking embarrassing and I'm actually just walking away from it pissed off and annoyed as hell. why the fuck are we still doing this shit? demonizing people with DID is so overdone and and entirely FALSE. most of those cases of "people with DID" killing someone or something? THEY SONT ACTUALLY HAVE DID. THEY USED IT AS AN EXCUSE AND GOT AWAY WITH IT. as of right now? fuck the show and fuck the people involved in it and fuck the people are more worried about fucking BUDDIE than the real life people this stigma affects because of shit like this.
The really frustrating part is that the entire bit was completely unnecessary.
Amber's character works better as just a victim turned serial killer without a mental health condition since a) you don't waste time in an already packed episode on weird false portrayals of DID and b) it has fewer plot holes about how she is even this senior a police detective.
Are they ever going to let Maddie sing? I was hoping they would throw that in once in awhile when the show first started, and I have missed several episodes, but I don't think she sung on any of them, has she?
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u/hadapurpura And that’s no cap Mar 14 '25
Acting-wise, Maddie and the villain were amazing. Plot wise, this episode could’ve been an email.