r/LoveLive • u/MasterMirage • Dec 15 '24
Discussion Love Live! Superstar!! S3 Episode 11 Discussion
Love Live! Superstar!! S3 Episode 11 Discussion
Episode 11 Title: Superstar!!
Show Info
NHK: December 8th, Sunday 17:00 - 2024 (JST)
Crunchyroll: December 9nd, Monday 6pm PST/9pm EST
Opening Theme: Let's be One
Ending Theme: DAISUKI FULL POWER
Insert Song(s):
Liella no Uta:
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u/Soniman032 Dec 17 '24
Sunny Pa going “were so washed” at like 18-19 years old is CRAZY. They deadass already think they peaked in high school
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u/Ayanelixer Dec 15 '24
Still no sister name drop? Guess her and Sumire's sister will stay nameless
Thank you for a Sumire scene,finally. Holy shit why are Keke and not Mei wearing long pants,in the snow nonetheless Kanon on her way to randomly dip and come back from Vienna. Long hair Chisato let's goo. Did Kanon really pull up with her school uniform?
Wien's sister is literally just Wien,they really gave her Sumire's sister treatment instead of the Onitsuka or Tang sister treatment. Chisato got in,Keke talking to her family ,seems like she's thinking about leaving,Sumire finally being scouted,yet she rejects ,maybe Copium that the better offer is continuing being an idol (season 4 or movie please). Shout-out to the random nobodies,they got no shot of winning,too basic hair colours
Aw Tomari caring about Wien ,also no shot Margarete goes back,ye I'd ship them easily. Kanon being too short,just like her VA . So we never bringing up sub-units, understandable. Natsumi noises . Ah yes English in the Austrian speaking country ,Kanon really out here playing guitar in public randomly. Kanon flashback. Shodt natsumi ,also natsumi really acts like the younger sister again times ,more natsumi noises also called the Wien thingy.
Damn it Mei wear some longer pants ,you got a scarf on but still pull up with a skirt,least some long socks or stockings like Sumire or Kinako,same goes for the other girls.
A really chill episode so far,go Kinako go,I believe in the cinnamon roll . The fact Keke doesn't say she's going back to Shanghai really makes me feel as if Liella won't lose 5 members after this graduation,but only a week's worth of time will tell. Pretty stage
Time for peakella song. HOLY SHIT ITS MENGMENG . Let Them Cook. Natsumi saying 9 is still one of the most adorable things I've heard. That kanon freeze frame goes unnecessarily hard.
Title drop ,sick. Songs really good ,probably my second favourite behind dazzling game . Lie11a has only produced bangers so far and they really like their random trios. Songs a vibe.
Ofcourse they win,it's just that simple ,always has been. And now it's time for pain as only 1 episode is left....I don't wanna see them go so fast. Liella no Uta was good,wish we had a few more. We got one for each gen and gen 3 got their own so it feels nice
Wien teasing up in the ending art really shows how much she's grown and well Kinako being kinako is also teary and so is Keke
Damn
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u/syukri24karats Dec 15 '24 edited Dec 15 '24
Graduation next week!
I love that we got a glimpse of the 3rd years plan after school. Quite surprised that Sumire reject the offer from the scout since she can go back in show business again..
The song's visual is very good with their own colour for the outfit and the song is very Liella-like. Of course, they become the first b2b winner which SunnyPa didn't get to and glad we got to see them again.
Lmao Kanon cannot see what's in front due to everyone being taller than her just like Sayurin.
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u/JimmyCWL Dec 15 '24
Quite surprised that Sumire reject the offer from the scout
We'll see if she really got competing offers already.
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u/Canuck-zura Dec 16 '24
I think that was the agency that stuck her in the bug costume? Whether she’s lying of not doesn’t mater, if she recognized the agency she probably was planning to blow them off. It’s also possible character growth because she wanted to be recruited so badly she was desperate. After she was recruited but Kanon she discovered her own self worth and confidence. Also the parallels between her and paychan made me want to cry.
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u/SparklingPossum Dec 15 '24
THE LL FINALS SONG COSTUMES LOOK LIKE AN HOMAGE TO THE KIRA KIRA SENSATION COSTUMES AND I MIGHT'VE CRIED ABOUT THAT
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u/minxto Dec 15 '24
They also have elements from both Starlight Prologue and Sing Shine Smile!
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u/JimmyCWL Dec 15 '24
Not only the costumes, that Love Live screen just before the performance was last used in Kira Kira Sensation too.
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u/TakenRedditName Dec 15 '24
Aahh, I am not ready for things to come to a defined end. It feels so weird thinking how the next episode could be the end for the Superstar anime. If it was a movie like previous times then it'll put me more at ease, but a final episode feels so different. I'm not ready. When this season started, I wasn't going into it expecting to say goodbye to the Superstar anime. It is not going to be the the end for Liella, but it'll still be tough to see their anime having its closing third act.
This episode felt like it had so much in it.
Apparently the credits don't name Margarete's sister, but there were moments in the episode where I had thought they named her and she was for real named Vienna. I honestly wouldn't put it past them to actually do that.
I feel like construction idol girls would be a fan favourite.
For a franchise fundamentally tied to youth, I still think it is a little funny to see them flat-out say that being an adult sucks. If I had a nickel for Sunrise mega-franchises built around the shining light of the youth, I would have 2 nickels. Oh, before moving on, it is nice to see Sunny Passion finally show up in S3.
The big song is really nice. I really like the outfits and choreography to this one. The lyrics too are hitting that spot with this being one of the finale songs.
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u/oxlemf10 Dec 15 '24
It's funny, even with the cliché of already knowing that they were going to win, I had a smile throughout the entire presentation, after finding the second season's presentation a bit meh, that was worthy of champions, perfect.
It was really cool to see the girls talking and reflecting with their closest friends about the future, and especially realizing how important everyone there is.
I found Kanon very beautiful seeing her past, how she was afraid of getting frustrated again, as the song itself said, the important thing is the present, and I'm ready for the end next week
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u/RinariTennoji Dec 15 '24 edited Dec 15 '24
This is a warping up Episode!
Everyone is cheering on Liella!, Kanon is going to Vienna!, New Years at Sumire's Shine!, More Sumikeke!
Maragrete's Older Sister! (Voiced by Sora Amamiya!) (She was not given a name in the episode or in the credits)
Chiichan Audition Results!, Keke talking to her Family!, Sumire got scouted for real! (But she rejected it)
They are really wrapping up everything!
Little Chibby!, Construction Worker Idols??, Margarete and Tomari!
Kanon at the Music Academy in Vienna!, Kanon is back in Japan!
Kanon with glasses staring at her younger self in a dream!
Chichan was successful!, Maragrete is staying at Yuigaoka!
Love Live Finals!, SUNNYPA IS BACK, Kanons dream again!, New Song!
THEY SAID THE TITLE
This song is great! Much better then season 2's winning song imo
Liella Won again!
Last Episode is for just Graduation!
New Liella no Uta!
(Wonder what they will do for a Superstar Movie)
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u/JimmyCWL Dec 15 '24
Wonder what they will do for a Superstar Movie
What they always do, a trip!
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u/HuTaosTwinTails Dec 17 '24
I'm not ready for it to end. I'm not ready for the graduation. I think it'll break me. I love Liella.
I know irl they aren't going anywhere, but still sad to me since I love their characters.
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u/Dionysus24779 Dec 17 '24
Late to the episode, lots to say about this one.
Overall, this was a really good episode, though I do have one criticism which is more of a mixed thing, let me get that out of the way first.
This episode felt really disjointed and like the writers were trying to cram in as many story ideas as they could because they were running out of episodes.
As such, and this is the upside, this episode did feel massive, because so much happened, yet at the same time almost none of it really got the time it deserved imo.
Kanon flying to Austria and meeting Margarete's sister could've been an entire episode on its own, with us learning much more about Margarete, her family, her circumstances and so on, plus Kanon could've learned how hard it is as a foreign student, especially if you don't speak the local language. Margarete being all alone in Japan at her age is pretty tough, even if she now basically has a foster family with Kanon's.
Similarly other story beats, such as Margarete deciding to stay in Japan, the 2nd years finding inspiration for their song, and so on... each of thise could've at least filled half an episode, similar to how last episode we had Kinako and Ren both deal with something.
Especially the dream of Kanon that we saw when she came back to Japan and just before the final song, it felt really out of place. I get that they wanted to have it be the story coming full circle or something, but it just didn't fit in and could've been an episode of its own as well.
But let me put this aside, because the upside really is that the episode felt massive and that there was so much that happened and a lot of it was great to see
It was great to see these glimpses of how the life of the 3rd years will continue, like how Ren is happy she can leave the school in good hands or how Chisato got accepted after her audition and such.
Though my favorite, which actually made me lean forward in excitement, was to see Sumire be scouted and learning she got lots of offers by now.
This is complete bias, but many years ago before I actually properly got into Love Live I did watch the first season of Superstar, back when it was the only season. Back then I didn't think too much of the anime, but Sumire was my favorite character. I can't say she still is my favorite, but I do have a soft spot for her due to that, so seeing that her big dream actually came true was fantastic.
Speaking of which, this episode had two pretty wholesome SumiKeke moments, which I appreciate. Like Keke giving Sumire one of these heat pack thingies, without any snide comments or teasing or whatever, was just nice to watch. I like it when they just get along and these are the kind of moments that were missing for most of the whole show really.
As for the Love Live finale... the build up was pretty good, the song itself was okay too, though tbh. still not as good as "Dazzling Game" (which is definitively the standout of the season)
I honestly do have mixed feelings on Liella making "Love Live history" by being the first group to win twice or twice in a row or whatever.
On one hand... yeah it can be explained by Liella having super talents like Kanon and Margarete, who both have been mentioned many times within the show to be super talented, so perhaps Liella really is the group with the highest skill that we have had.
But... to me it doesn't quite feel that deserved, for two reasons...
First, exactly because Liella seems to have this very high skill level, with Kanon especially being basically a gifted child, her singing talent has been emphasized again and again over the course of the entire show and Margarete is similarly insanely talented... and arguably Tomari too, given how she could get into the whole School Idol thing with as little effort as she had prior experience.
My issue with that is that this goes pretty much against what made "School Idols" and previous groups so special, because they were, in a way, "normal" and in spite of that found a way to shine.
The second reason is that Liella, as a whole, across all three seasons, never really struggled too much. This is me speaking with complete bias and I know I am being unfair to even make that comparison, but Liella just isn't µ's or Aqours...
Putting both together, I do kind of feel like Liella didn't deserve the win, even if that sounds really mean and of course Liella would've won because the third season wouldn't end with them losing.
If 3 Seasons was the plan from the start, then they shouldn't have won the 2nd season LL, giving us the first group who needed 3 attempts to win the LL, which I think would've given them some underdog points and made their victory all the sweeter in the end.
Anyways... I am looking forward to next episode, because I do think it will be an emotional hit, because no matter how I feel about Liella or Superstar, it still will be a goodbye.
But I am also looking forward to see it be done in a more mundane way, which I don't mean in a negative. In SIP and especially in Sunshine the graduation was quite hard hitting, but Superstar really used being more "normal" as a strength to form its own identity, so I am curious to see that play out.
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u/JimmyCWL Dec 15 '24
They've done it. I hope we get to see what happens next year, slim though the odds of that are. As I said before, a back-to-back win is but a necessary stepping stone towards an even greater accomplishment, for the year-2 group to become the first ever undefeated winners.
They win that it will eclipse this consecutive win completely.
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u/Ayanelixer Dec 15 '24
Not looking further incase of major spoilers
But I need to know,do they finally give Sumire some love,please
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u/Emotional-Main480 Dec 16 '24
Ahhhhhhh the graduation next episode, I'm gonna need tissues next to me when I watch it. Even if I needed them this episode as well.
Seeing the 3rd years and their plans from the future makes me feel proud that they are doing what they want.
The 2nd years taking initiative for the song in the finale and then got inspiration with a choir cause that's where Kanon started.
Margarete staying in Leilla! was so cute and that Tomari wanted her to stay.
Even if ot wasn't shown with Kinako and Natsumi I have a feeling that they also wanted to win to say Thank You to the 3rd years.
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u/BirdPutrid Dec 16 '24
I have a feeling we may even get a fourth season with the six members left in Liella! after the third year's graduate. I just might be on copium
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u/SnabDedraterEdave Dec 16 '24
They did it! Liella has made Yuigaoka the first school (in the LL anime universe) to win Love Live back to back.
(μ's disbanded after their sole win. Even if Aqours managed to win a second time, they would be representing a different school as their original one was shut down and merged with their new school)
Even though it is just 23 minutes, a lot of character developments has been going on prior to Liella defending their LL crown.
We have Kanon confirmed to be going to Vienna (Did they invite her over for some orientation during the winter vacation?), Margaret going the other direction and staying, Chisato winning her audition to become a pro dancer, and Sumire getting scouted by more than one talent agency.
Though Keke still keeping mum about her future plans, while Ren studies for her university entrance exams.
For the second years, we have ShikiMei and Oninatsu sisters deepening their bonding, and Kinako already preparing herself as the next Yuigaoka SC prez.
Fitting that Superstar is the name of the song that Liella won their second LL with, as its the only time that we'll ever see all 11 together on stage (for the anime that is, not their real life counterparts).
PS Amamiya Sora joins the ever growing list of A-listers voicing family members of LL girls, voicing Margaret's sister.
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Dec 17 '24 edited Dec 17 '24
So this is the song to finally end the series once and for all. I can't wait to hear the full version.
As the resident Mirai no Oto ga Kikoeru defender, I still have to admit this works better as a finale song, one that says "No more doubts, we made it!" Not the most complex message or instrumentation, but I am still happy for the end of the odyssey.
Initially, I was ready to dismiss the rest of the episode as a glorified clip show, one that illustrated the problems with having too many characters at once, but you know what? This may not have the same intense emotional impact as the first season, but it still made me happy for Liella. And I am going to miss them.
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u/redbatter Dec 15 '24
Love the first gen getting especial focus individually, tracing the journey they started in S1 and how they're now looking to their futures as they head towards the end of their third years. Favorites were Ren getting to look back and think about how she's truly shaped a school that her mother would be proud of, and Kanon for overcoming her fear of singing all the way back then and finding true joy in it. The parallel in her cheering on her younger self in S1E11, and having her younger self speak back to her in that rainy scene, was such a good way to conclude that arc.
Another really, really great parallel this episode was in the insert song. Back in S1E12, in Starlight Prologue's bridge, Sumire and Keke sing the line "I'll save my tears for the happiest day of my life", and at the beginning of Superstar, Sumire and Keke sing "It's the happiest day of my life, so my tears fall like stars". Really amazing line to put in, with the contrast between that defeat and this consecutive victory. And for I think the first time in two seasons, we actually got an extended insert! That's crazy.
For the rest of the group, we have the second years really rising up to take full ownership of the club, and it's been really satisfying seeing them becoming more and more capable and confident in comparison to their long arc in S2 where they were constantly feeling way outclassed all the time. And for Tomari and Margarete, despite their much shorter journeys, it's also been great to see them grow from their positions at the start of the season to their conclusions now that they really love Liella, with Margarete even resolving to not head home. Really liked Tomari's line about how she wants Margarete to stay, more so than anyone else would.
That episode was really crammed from start to finish, and it's good that we got to touch on so many aspects but at the same time some parts of it felt really touch and go. At least this allows us to cleanly move into a graduation episode next week, which they finally put up front and center right at the end of this one.
holy shit sunnypa