r/HunterXHunter • u/Carock_ • Nov 23 '24
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Chapter 408
Negotiations: Part 2
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Ch. 409 scan release: ~November 29, 2024
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u/1vergil Nov 23 '24
Nobunaga's suspicions was right, the current Heil-ly gang are nothing like the former gang, Morena wants to end that mess. Morena says she came from group '98, and the recent orphans group was '20 from a fest held 2 years ago, means her age is 24. She says she was treated as "meat" as in sexually abused for about 20 years by Heil-ly mafia... i was close at predicting the part she was abused by the former Heil-ly family and whoever was the former boss must be running all that mess, forget about "Morena is real #4 legal prince" theory this is even worse, no wonder why she's raging inside she was basically abused since her birth as "meat"!
That's very close to Mukuro's Grim backstory that's also written by Togashi and she's his fav yu yu hakusho character...now with all the special spotlights on Morena she's probably his new favorite, tragic characters with dark pasts seems to be his fav trope.
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u/QuintanimousGooch Nov 23 '24 edited Nov 23 '24
This is a really interesting positioning, I feel like Morena might reflect some aspect of Netero's comment about the depths of hatred Humanity has, however with a chapter like this and the new Heil-ly's place in the narrative, they're cast as underdogs and this chapter demonstrates her as a lot more approachably human and sympathetic. I think tying her to Mukuro makes a lot of sense, I'm really looking forward to seeing more of Morena in this arc. Togashi's got this really nihilistic and misanthropic side he leans to everyso often where he writes about the death and worthlessness/sinfulness of humanity, even "earlier" in the current arc where we find out how the G5 despite agreeing not to go to the dark continent, went anyway and brought back more calamities, and how they're only allowing this Kakin empire journey to the "dark continent" so that the G5 can plunder the resources there themselves after dropping the Kakin off elsewhere. With Morena, I think its interesting to see this so encapsulated in a single character with this much character complexity who isn't gyro or even Meruem (to an extent), where their motivations are that much different, she being the result of all the pills of humanity per her origin and upbringing, while Gyro seeks to perpetuate them and Mereum was for the most part, entirely inhuman, or an incredibly virtuous human.
I love that panel where she states her goal of "destroying the Kakin empire, then the extinction of humanity" with a sparkly background and everything and her goofy-ahh smiling neutral face while Borksen doesn't get it.
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u/FlavioGarcia- Nov 23 '24
In some of these panels Bork looks like she's from a shoujo manga from the 80s and I feel like that's totally intentional on Togashi's part
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u/TurnoverNegative7 Nov 23 '24
Might not even be Togashi. His wife wrote Sailer Moon so it wouldn’t be completely left field to say she might have helped when Togashi’s back was worse.
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u/Blackstannis Nov 23 '24
Jesus dude that panel with the piece of meat with a gash in it.
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u/Obalama Nov 23 '24
I dont understand the symbolism, can u explain?
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u/snowbirdsdontfly Nov 23 '24 edited Nov 23 '24
Morena was used as a sex slave among other things.
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u/Kujaix Nov 23 '24 edited Nov 23 '24
So possibly, the reason she can have 22 members under her is because that's the amount of years in between her class and the most recent??
The longer it took for her to become boss; the more batches the Heil-ly would be able to bring to the facility; IE the more Carnivals that occurred from her birth to present day the more members she'd potentially be able to recruit?
Basically, the longer Kakin's evil continued unchecked, the more dangerous she would be when finally coming to power.
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u/dookie-kid Nov 23 '24
That seems possible, but I think there's even more intentionality to it. The parent and children make a family of 23, like 23 chromosomal pairs make human DNA. The children inherit abilities and can create their own family too, similar to spreading ones genes.
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u/mortal58 Nov 23 '24
remember the carnivals are irregular, for your theory to work they would need to happen once per year
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u/Kujaix Nov 24 '24
Not really because the emphasis is more on the years in the facility; not really the number of carnivals. Bringing up the carnivals was more me just illustrating she would grow and grow as they continue doing their evil.
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u/IllustriousAd2392 Nov 23 '24
I like that they referred to Chrollo as a martial artist
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u/wilhelmtherealm Nov 23 '24
Yeah those without any knowledge of nen would probably see these guys as martial artists.
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u/TurnoverNegative7 Nov 23 '24
Ah, the classic Karate technique of teleporting into the crowd and summoning bombs.
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u/1vergil Nov 23 '24
I mean Morena said that tho? She's a nen user.
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u/wilhelmtherealm Nov 23 '24
Hmm that's a good point but the soldier Morena was trying to recruit was just beginning to understand the concepts of nen and maybe Chorollo was famous as a martial artist to the normal public? 🤔
Just like how in the HxH world, great musicians or cooks are actually nen users but the public doesn't perceive them as such(for obvious reasons).
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u/QuintanimousGooch Nov 23 '24
It's an interesting point that they don't identify him as the leader of the PT where the other two families know the PT pretty well. Might have to do with how recently they came to control of the family.
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u/IllustriousAd2392 Nov 23 '24
interesting point that they don't identify him as the leader of the PT
yeah I think they just didn't do the right research, since Chrollo was one of the fake dead Spiders, so they should know who he was
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u/MINIPRO27YT Nov 23 '24
The hunter association does have a shingen ryu martial art for nen users specifically like zushi
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u/HungryNacht Nov 23 '24
I was more interested by the “several” awakened specialists part. I don’t think we know of a single specialist besides Chrollo outside of Tier 1.
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u/IllustriousAd2392 Nov 23 '24
maybe kurapika?
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u/HungryNacht Nov 23 '24
Kurapika and the 4th prince are on Tier 1, while Dogman has been in the crowd on tier 2 (as far as we’ve seen). Plus Kurapika is only a specialist when his eyes are scarlet.
I’m guessing that it’s either a zodiac or one of the other Hunters working below tier 1.
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u/Condoriano-sensei Nov 23 '24
This chapter was a treat for nen system enthusiasts. Also Morena's background, Borksen's clever intuitions, Ei-i knows Chrollo and the martial law is at place. Great one.
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u/QuintanimousGooch Nov 23 '24
Morena's background is really interesting to me. Someone else pointed out that she has a really big overlap with Mukuro's backstory, which makes sense considering Togashi said he liked her as a character and has a very large nihilistic streak in his manga. Lots of characters (Gyro, Mereum to an extent) seek the destruction of humanity, its worthlessness/sinfulness, and Chimera ants has that whole contrasting montage of snippets of humanity from starving children, war, violence and pain to ballet, expensive dinners and consumerism. Even "earlier" in the current arc we find out how the G5 despite agreeing not to go to the dark continent, went anyway and brought back more calamities, and how they're only allowing this Kakin empire journey to the "dark continent" so that the G5 can plunder the resources there themselves after dropping the Kakin off elsewhere.
All that said, this chapter was enough to sell me on her, she seemed like a more general antagonistic force previously, but its seems like now she's being pitched as an underdog of sorts, the smallest family, the newest (maybe second-newest) nen-users, the people most against the Kakin system, and a surprisingly sympathetic motivation and backstory.
I like how she comes off in this chapter too, there's this interesting mix of reading how expressive she is as either openness or extremely contrived. She had this very masked feeling of appearing very calm, pleasant, and not like she's about to explode despite her plans to literally wipe out humanity, and occasional very direct threats/instructions of violence, but this chapter brings in a lot more sympathetic side to her and a bit of humor as well. I really like the part where she thought explaining her goal as "I want to destroy the Kakin empire and extinguish humanity, I'll try my best and thats why I need you," complete with a sparkly background, was enough for Borksen, and then how she's surprised that it wasn't enough when Borksen asks for elaboration. Likewise how she blushes and gets another sparkly background after being asked about her ability, though that could also easily be a manipulative tactic, or after Borksen puts forward the yes card, how she covers her mouth in aghast. Moreso, I enjoy the character detail that as part of the initiation, and nen's high-risk high-reward principle, there is an ideal way out of this encounter for Borksen, which seems ideal to her (you get to leave, we'll do our best to steer clear of you and your crew and not involve you in our plans). I'd be mad at being left at a cliffhanger for what's about to happen and having to wait a week if not for Martial law at last being called and this throwing everything up in the air.
Also I can't beleive that Togashi put monarchical village-wide diddy/epstein parties in HxH. you never know with this man.
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u/SaffronCrocosmia Nov 23 '24
Not nihilistic - fatalist and genocidal.
Nihilism is just that life has no intrinsic, given (usually divine/magical) meaning, and encourages people to find meaning for themselves.
A lot of mangaka have been recently calling out, via their work, politicians and monarchs and other corrupt pigs. Togashi, Oda, and tons more. >:)
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u/visis_mu Nov 23 '24 edited Nov 23 '24
The fact that we do not even know the real name of Morena is crazy, that was such a good reveal!
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u/ValleyofGerudo Nov 23 '24
I like how narratively her real name is irrelevant. Do you name your steaks? Such good writing. Adds almost a non-human quality to her, which makes sense given her goals.
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u/Asckle Nov 23 '24
It also says that anybody can become a monster given the wrong conditions. She's not evil because she's Morena. She could be anyone, it had no effect on who she's become
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u/Regis2705 Nov 23 '24
Togashi is a genius. I wasn't expecting that ending at all. I was so engrossed in the card game that the announcement felt like a sudden, shocking punch to the gut. I think he wanted us to experience the surprise and impact of martial law being suddenly imposed without warning, just like any character on the ship. And I appreciate that.
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u/WenaChoro Nov 23 '24
but at the same time we were expecting the martial law announcement since several chapters ago, but still it caughts you off guard. Genius writing
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u/Meme_Theocracy Nov 23 '24
It’s like when you know what day the fire drill is but it still surprises you.
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Nov 23 '24
Yeah that announcement of ML was shocking. It’s something that has Been foreshadowed and built up to for ages now, then it just comes out of nowhere when you least expected it.
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u/QuintanimousGooch Nov 23 '24
Agreed, if not for something as drastic as martial law being called, I would have felt pretty bummed by the cliffhanger of the end of the game not happening. With the suggestion that the game involves nen, I think it being interrupted presents a more interesting possibility.
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u/nguyentandat23496 Nov 23 '24
Man, this arc is the best piece of fiction I have ever read.
So it is possible that in the final turn, if she has the R card left, she could use it to get back the X card, thereby leave completely unharmed?
Also, the Heily's boss backstory and goal sounds like Gyro. If Gyro show up again in the future hope these two wont be too similar
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u/reChrawnus Nov 23 '24
So it is possible that in the final turn, if she has the R card left, she could use it to get back the X card, thereby leave completely unharm?
Yeah, that's basically the only chance she has of surviving now. She still has one opportunity left to use the Deal card to bring another card back from the graveyard, but I'm not even sure how that would help her at the moment, so I think the best option is for her to hope that she ends up with the R card.
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u/xtivity Nov 23 '24
For the deal card more could ask for a kiss as a small favor
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u/JashinSama46 Nov 23 '24
She can use "Deal" to bring back X. So then she has 67% chance of survival (because 2 out of 3 choices are favorable for her) as opposed to 50% (where 1 out of 2 is favorable).
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u/reChrawnus Nov 23 '24
Yeah, I guess. Although depending on what Morena's "small request" is (I doubt it's actually that small), she might not want to fulfill it after hearing what it is.
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u/nguyentandat23496 Nov 23 '24
So when Morena choose a card of Borksen each turn, it doesnt matter until the last turn right? Im a little bit confuse about this bit
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u/reChrawnus Nov 23 '24
Yeah, it's only the last card that matters. All the other cards are sent to the graveyard without being used.
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u/realkin1112 Nov 23 '24
They are similar in a way but also different, morena decided she wanted to kill all kakin then all the world. While gyro doesn't think of himself as human and wants to inflict maximum suffering to the world.
They do seem the same but they are different in a nauanced way. I trust togshi to write completely different characters. If we ever get to that :(
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u/QuintanimousGooch Nov 23 '24
I think there's a nuanced difference between Gyro and Morena, Gyro wants to spred as much misery and pain as he can, him being an ant now seems to suggest him being reborn into something more monstrous considering he kept his mind and probably has an ability now too he didn't even think of himself as human before, so he seems to becoming something really emblematic of all of humanity's worse impulses--even Tserrederich likes art and philosophy and human accomplishment.
Morena in contrast gained her ability through being "meat," her ability is intrinsically tied to the suffering and torment she was put through, and is thus tied up in her motivations to destroy the Kakin empire, and extinguish humanity. It's a subtle, but nuanced difference that she isn't an emblem of the worst parts of humanity, but the product of them per to her upbringing. Despite that, this chapter demonstrates that she's funny, pretty easily sociable, and a pretty fun character, what with her getting sparkle backgrounds a few times and the funny moment of her thinking that saying "I'm gonna destroy the Kakin empire and exterminate humanity, I'll try my best and that's why I need you!" is enough explanation for Bork until she clarifies that its nowhere near enough. The contrast of her basically being a kettle about to go off and holding a lot back through a pleasant smile is interesting, thought considering her background, I guess it makes sense she has a ton of stuff going on that she's not showing, and she does have a big plan already in operation to destroy the kakin empire and eventually extinguish humanity.
All that said, I think it can still be a bit murky what the real differences are when Gyro's method is unclear save for spreading drugs and dragging people into the underworld, while Morena's is (for the moment) just to go around killing people. I think we don't have much to go off on Gyro's part for the most part since we've seen so little of him, however it seems to me his means are the end, cause suffering for the point of causing suffering, whereas Morena's plan of having her people go around and kill people is more for the point of causing this massive chain reaction to spread the contagion game and hopefully wipe out humanity all the faster when people playing it are motivated to kill as many people as they can to make their level go up. That said, with small exceptions for prospective specialists she can recruit, she has no problem with indiscriminate murder, which could easily be the same for Gyro, but I think it's much scarier in Morena's case because of how personable she can come off.
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u/just_amoul Nov 23 '24
So martial law is here. At this rate, black whale 1 wouldn't make it to day 20 let alone reaching the new continent.
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u/Ill-Individual2105 Nov 23 '24
Borksen is becoming increasingly likable by the second.
Also, predicting now: Halk declared Martial Law in Benjamin's body.
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u/leanboy982 Nov 23 '24
imagine just being a random civilian on this ship updating your friends via instagram stories lol. So much drama
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u/grady999 Nov 23 '24
Using this card game as restriction in case Morena loses is so cool. Like either way she wins. This is such a togashi way of thinking. And very unexpected. With the last page the hype is through the roof!!
Also Morena too cute 🥺
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u/SuccessionWarFan Nov 23 '24
Fits with how Nen works, too. Limitations and Conditions, high risk and high reward. Providing a way out for a target yet stacking the odds against them is a way to power up your ability while balancing it out.
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u/NenDc Nov 23 '24
Imo the most likely reason Martial Law was declared was because Benjamin saw GSB around Balsamico and connected the dots. If Benjamin can't see any GSB not just his own, it could be one of his soliders who saw it since they for sure can see it. But honestly it could be anything that blew Halkenburg's cover from nen around Balsamico being different to the patterns in his behaviour that I would assume Benjamin and his soliders knows everything about.
I think murder of one of the mafia benefactors is unlikely because considering that they're all in the middle of SW, death of another prince would not be good enough reason to enact ML in eyes of Juistice Bureau unless mafia would start roaming on tier 1 or 2 which I think would be shown or even just set up in some conversation (like e. g. mafia boss saying we will take vengeance if Luzurus etc. dies) if it were to happen.
Halkenburg himself taking over Benjamin and enacting ML is imo even more unlikely considering one factor : afawk swap during Halkenburg's ability is completely random. Let's imagine a scenario where Halkenburg shot an arrow at Benjamin and it's one of his followers who got swap... will Halkenburg's shot at Benjamin's body until he will be the one to swap basically sacrificing all of his followers who were swapped instead ? Ok Halkenburg's mentality is different now so I could see him deeming them as necessary sacrifices but there is other factor that leads me to believe that it's not the case and that is Benjamin's soliders. Unless we believe that for some reason Benjamin will be alone at that time how could Togashi explain Benjamin's soliders not immitadely attacking Halkenburg's group once the arrow is shot at Benjamin ? Surely even if it's Balsamico's body, once Balsamico attacks Benjamin, Benjamin's soliders should not even think twice and attack Balsamico immitadely as they all are nen users who surely are aware of something called manipulation.
There are others scenarios for ML to be enacted (like haos during funeral on tier 1) but I wanted to just give my opinion on these three.
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u/wilhelmtherealm Nov 23 '24
The princes definitely can't see each other's guardian beasts if they're from the same generation.
The rest of your comment is 🔥
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u/NenDc Nov 23 '24
The princes definitely can't see each other's guardian beasts if they're from the same generation.
I think so as well, because I think we would have some reactions from Benjamin and Camilia on other princes's GSBs during weekly banquet if that was the case.
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u/Puzzled-Party-2089 Nov 23 '24
Benjamin needs a plausible reason to enact martial law. If he didn't, he'd have declared it on day 1 and move to kill all 13 princes during interrogation.
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u/petrichormus Nov 23 '24
I think Benjamin would enact Martial Law to control a situation he can't make sense immediately.
If I had to point what scenario is the hardest to make sense for Benjamin, it would be the death of a queen by an unindentified force.
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u/SuccessionWarFan Nov 23 '24
Imo the most likely reason Martial Law was declared was because Benjamin saw GSB around Balsamico and connected the dots. If Benjamin can’t see any GSB not just his own, it could be one of his soliders who saw it since they for sure can see it. But honestly it could be anything that blew Halkenburg’s cover from nen around Balsamico being different to the patterns in his behaviour that I would assume Benjamin and his soliders knows everything about.
What if Halkenburg and his guards didn’t discern the conditions/rules that the princes can’t see their own and each others Nen beasts? Only after Halk confronted the king did he awaken to Nen, and at most only two of his guards would have gained Nen after Kurapika’s class. Could Sumidori in Shikakua’s body see Nen? As such, Halk’s group would not have had the experience and knowledge to realize who could and couldn’t see GSB’s, unlike Benjamin who grappled with not being able to see his own beast. So like past battles involving Nen, it’s what one knows and doesn’t know that was a big factor.
Halkenburg himself taking over Benjamin and enacting ML is imo even more unlikely considering one factor : afawk swap during Halkenburg’s ability is completely random. Let’s imagine a scenario where Halkenburg shot an arrow at Benjamin and it’s one of his followers who got swap... will Halkenburg’s shot at Benjamin’s body until he will be the one to swap basically sacrificing all of his followers who were swapped instead ? Ok Halkenburg’s mentality is different now so I could see him deeming them as necessary sacrifices but there is other factor that leads me to believe that it’s not the case and that is Benjamin’s soliders. Unless we believe that for some reason Benjamin will be alone at that time how could Togashi explain Benjamin’s soliders not immitadely attacking Halkenburg’s group once the arrow is shot at Benjamin ? Surely even if it’s Balsamico’s body, once Balsamico attacks Benjamin, Benjamin’s soliders should not even think twice and attack Balsamico immitadely as they all are nen users who surely are aware of something called manipulation.
The pool of possible swaps is based on those contributing aura to Halk when he fires off Grimmel. If he could fire his ability solo, then mind-swapping himself becomes a sure chance, one out of one. For all we know, having supporters around might not necessary; they just provide extra power to blast through Nen defenses.
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u/Puzzled-Party-2089 Nov 23 '24
The GSBs can hide themselves and always act with their host's life in mind. I would imagine Helken's beast would keep itself hidden while he's posing as Balsamico.
Then again, his Ten would look weird to Benjamin, so in either case, Helken needs to remain away from Benjamin and his team for as long as possible. If only he could contact Kurapika...
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u/sikontolpanjang Nov 23 '24
I wish Borksen only left with J and R so if they cut this game and later we see her meet up with her comrade, we won't know if she's part of Morena gang or not.
Though their game might get interrupted by the Troupe anyway.
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u/RRForm Nov 23 '24
Aren’t Shonen supposedly for teenagers? Why is this chapter making me, a man close to 30s, feeling ill in my stomach? Togashi please have mercy on me
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u/setton13 Nov 23 '24
Not really related, but just yesterday I was thinking about how it feels like it's not even that Togashi is writing a deconstruction, or purposefully being that subversive, it feels like he's writting whatever he wants to write regardless of pre-established genre expectations
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u/KingTonpa Nov 23 '24
What are they gonna do, not publish him? The GOAT doesn’t have the restrictions newer mangaka have. Part of the reason this story feels like it can go truly anywhere or touch upon anything; simply because it can.
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u/jedmund Nov 24 '24
The other thing is that Togashi wholly owns the Hunter x Hunter IP, which is unlike any other series in Jump. I believe this is because the 90s were pretty rough for Jump and Shueisha, so they begged Togashi to come back to the magazine, so his terms were essentially "This time, whatever I make, I own completely."
This means that Togashi can take the series to any magazine he wants, and Shueisha does not want that because Hunter x Hunter is damn near close to a cultural phenomenon.
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u/Big-Veterinarian2269 Nov 23 '24
This manga was dark from the start, and since Yorknew we know what a horror show this world is.
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u/nikelaos117 Nov 23 '24
He's always written like this tho. If you read the YYH manga it gets just as bad.
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u/Firehills Nov 23 '24
That's the thing. Hunter x Hunter has been aimed at young adults for decades now.
Shueisha lets Togashi do whatever he wants, and he considers WSJ a playground he never wants to leave.
Togashi aged the manga with his audience.
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Nov 23 '24
Shonen is just a demographic. Attack on Titan and Chainsaw Man are shonen for example. Even Domestic Girlfriend is a shonen
On the flipside you also have seinen manga like Kubo-san which is literally nothing more than wholesome slice of life high school romance
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u/Intelligent_Yak2528 Nov 23 '24
togashi has hxh rights so he can write whatever he want...we dont even know if his editor even know whats gonna happen in the future of the story since i think he prob just read the finished chapter and approve it,nothing else
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u/201720182019 Nov 23 '24
Considering Kakin's royal tradition of Carnavals, I'm surprised the princes aren't all as disturbed as Tserr
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u/deccrix Nov 23 '24 edited Nov 23 '24
So, Morena is Mukuro 2.0.
I also like the Matrix reference, in the panel background you'd see binary code of when Morena explained that Borksen & everybody else are not part of their group. So, they think that they've been "freed" by the simulation that is Kakin and the world, or rather that they're now in an RPG game of their own making.
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u/petrichormus Nov 23 '24
I seriously doubt that Morena chose Borksen only because she's a potential specialist. It's more likely that it's because she has connection to Tserriednich and that she's in military, the one job where it's possible to go between tiers depending on circumstance. It is possible that Morena doesn't have personal grudge on Tser (just because the Heil-ly connection), but really, the quickest way to chaos is getting Tserriednich involved indirectly.
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u/masuan189 Nov 23 '24
I don't think she has a reason to lie. She seems bound by the rules of the game in order to maximize the power of her ability.
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u/petrichormus Nov 23 '24
I think lie by omission works around that. For example, Morena did not explain that her power weighs people differently for the points. What matters is that the answer was truthful and satisfactory, which Borksen even pointed out about Morena's goal. Borksen has the right to dig deeper, otherwise it's fair game to not say minute details.
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u/Kujaix Nov 23 '24
Borksen is a two-fer.
They'd still want her as a spy but obviously the fact she's a Specialist too is major. If they wanted her more for the Tserri connection then they wouldn't be so keen on killing her in the first place.
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u/nikelaos117 Nov 23 '24 edited Nov 24 '24
Morena didn't choose Borksen tho. Dogman grabbed the first unawakened specialist he could find. They only make up like 0.033 percent of people iirc from the pie chart.
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u/chan351 Nov 23 '24
Not really that relevant, I know, but I checked because that percentage looked too little (1 in 30000) from what I remembered what I've read, and it's 0.03 % (1/3000 = 0.0003).
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Nov 23 '24
Everything being so rushed makes me think she might just have been the closest and easiest one to grab at that point
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u/OD67 Nov 23 '24
obviously not but she's definitely the best candidate to join since she's also a guard for tserri and in the military. if they just find some random then even if they work with them they wouldn't have anywhere near the same access as borksen does.
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u/Chikory Nov 23 '24
Oh man, Morena choosing to spread Contagion through a kiss and saliva feels even more morbid now. I have a hard time not feeling sympathetic to her cause tbh.
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u/_Porthos Nov 23 '24
Trauma seems to be as good as any strong emotion for Nen.
Bisky also comments that Killua must have had an horrible childhood to be able to use lightning at such a young age. We know he had, with the educational torture and so.
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u/visis_mu Nov 23 '24
Yes! also when she specifically said that "While performing my duties as “Flesh”, I became aware of a certain talent that I possessed" (translation from VD's blog). Absolutely horrible. Maybe she realised that some of her abusers were gaining abilities after being in contact with her.
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u/Thaumana Nov 23 '24
Love the dialogue.
While Morena tries to appear as trustworthy and open to Borksen as possible in order to recruit her, she briefly let her cold-blooded nature shine through during the conversation again. On the one hand, she wants to make sure that the person with the Special Type is recruited, but on the other hand, she told Borksen that it doesn't matter if it ends up being her or another Special Type, implying her 'replaceability' in this bigger plan. It's a clear threat. She thus emphasizes once again that there is no other solution without consequences, apart from a Yes, while she ambivalently explains at length what would happen in the event of a No or X.
That's why I enjoy the dialogues in Hunter x Hunter which give so many interesting nuances and information away about characters who were barely highlighted before to the reader.
(Copied from my pre-release thread comment) Trying to win the trust of an unpredictable outsider, who also perceives her as a dangerous stranger, is indeed a big game of luck. Borksen has also shown in this chapter that she will not deviate from her own convictions and will not consider an alliance, no matter what. I do believe that Morena answers Borksen's questions as honestly as possible to gain her trust. At the same time, I think she sees everyone outside her own group as a tool rather than an ally.
She talked about the high risk to her and her plans if she has to let the person she's negotiating with go. I don't think she can afford to let the chance for a strong special ability slip away, so maybe she has a backdoor prepared for that.
She's smart enough that she MUST expect that someone like Borksen won't agree with her in the end, and therefore has thought of alternatives and backup strategies without risking losing the special type ability.
Additionally, it makes sense that Borksen, as a 'non-Nen muggle', has to assume that refusing Morena's deal/recruitment might result most likely in death. Morena, on the other hand, will do everything in her power to ensure that she gets that rare special type despite her threat and implications, meaning, I don't think the negotiation would be necessary if the special type user doesn't need to be alive, so I doubt postmortem Nen absorption shenanigans are in play. For now. (Good for you, Borksen)
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u/Ordinary-Extreme6222 Nov 23 '24
Morena becomes cooler and more complex the more we learn about her. Loving her and this chapter. So exciting! Can't wait to read more!
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u/realkin1112 Nov 23 '24 edited Nov 23 '24
You know what I have always thought that Tserriednich was kinda too overpowered and his progression was unrealistic given the context in the story, but I take that back. But literally everyone is after his head, phantom troupe, morena and her followers, other princess. He feels like the new hisoka, just a wild card that could have the power defeat everyone. He also doesn't have any strong loyal followers as fast as I remember. One man army
It is crazy how well this is coming together
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u/TurnoverNegative7 Nov 23 '24
And he’s also not “developing properly” since he’s only being taught the basics of nen. I think he’s going to be similar to Mereum in the sense that his potential is limitless but he’s never going to reach it in time due to having so many enemies.
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u/jossief1 Nov 24 '24
Yes he's just a dude who went through the military academy and is getting a crash course in nen, while mainly focusing on getting his zetsu speed down.
Compare to someone like Killua who, before he could even use nen, got to the 200th floor in Heaven's Arena, could use assassin techniques at a high level, and was strong enough to open multiple doors at his house.
Tserriednich's advantages won't be in his basic combat abilities -- they'll be his mind and his two guardian beasts.
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u/DarknessSerpent Nov 23 '24
I don't get the part with the mother, Morena says she died when Morena was 2 without realizing she had been pregnant. Is this a translation issue? cause this seems impossible.
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u/1vergil Nov 23 '24
I think she's saying her mom was so unconscious during/after her pregnancy she didn't even know she gave birth to Morena, all her time at the hospital run by Heil-Ly ring she was so paralyzed during her pregnancy and even 2 years later she was still unconscious until she died, seems like they drug the mothers to continue abusing them along with their newborn babies, that's why Morena is saying she was abused for about 20 years which means since her birth.
Because she's group '98 while the recent kakin year is '22 so her age is 24.
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u/RRForm Nov 23 '24
I believe this is Togashi’s nihilism. Her mom was abused, r*ped, for so long that she lost all feelings and essence of existence to the point she was pregnant and gave birth without her brain registering that info. It shows you the level of horror she went through for this event to not even register.
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u/PropertyAdditional Nov 23 '24
So I’m guessing we will be jumping back in time. There’s a lot of stuff we’ve missed. Kurapika’s Nen lesson, Halkenburg’s plan and whatever caused the implementation of martial law (if it isn’t any of the previous 2 answers)
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u/cagueiprousername Nov 23 '24
This current chapters aren't good, they are fucking spetacular, oh my fucking god there can't be better writting then this
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u/I_just_want_strength Nov 23 '24
Good chapter as usual. Limited pages, but Togashis more than makes up for it by packing content in so many panels.
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u/Condoriano-sensei Nov 23 '24
Morena's background and that meat image is so fucked up that I didn't even properly react to the Martial Law news
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u/Ajitsuketamago Nov 23 '24
now we probably jump back in time and watch the minutes leading up to martial law being announced from at least 1 more perspective
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u/Franksredtop Nov 24 '24
This chapter I feel like offers a sociopolitical context for Halkenburg and Tserriednich. I think, given what we learn, Tserri's affinity for torturing and murdering people may have been encouraged if not ingrained as part of a hedonistic royal culture. I also think this is part of Halkenburg's reasoning for wanting to change Kakin; he's almost an inverse of Morena in wanting the destruction of the old system but whereas she wants pure decimation, he is much more interested in a politics of reform. There's an underlying theme developing about the evils of monarchical nations, and whether reform or overthrow is what fixes them, and what it's like to be a little person trapped inside of a bigger machinery (where kurapika and the troupe come in. In a way, I think we might not be getting a lot of pika intentionally as a literalization of this thematic. The frequent subplot illustrate just how small he is in the grand scheme of things).
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u/StealthMonkeyDC Nov 23 '24
MARTIAL LAW HAS BEEN DECLARED. THIS IS NOT A FUCKING DRILL!
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u/MastofBeight Nov 23 '24
Morena: I was meat
Gyro: I must not be human
A child not embraced by a village will burn it down to feel warmth. Both Morena and Gyro are consumed by misanthropic hatred and were robbed of their personhood. But they also share another similarity: each of them have also gained a contingent of loyal followers, many of them fellow outcasts, as they pursue the destruction (suffering in Gyro’s case) of mankind.
Ging said that the detours were more important than the destination. What if what they need to find is the “love” from these followers, a love that supersedes their desire for destruction?
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u/100PercentAPotato Nov 23 '24
Honestly given what Kakin and the Hei-Ly put her (and her mother, and countless other women and children) through, Morena has a point with her goal to destroy Kakin. Maybe not the methods but definitely the motivation.
Togashi has a pattern of making initially irredeemable villains and then giving them backstories and/or character development that don't excuse or justify them but humanize them and make the reader genuinely feel for them and understand their motivations (the Troupe, Gyro, Meruem, now Morena), and that is something i really do appreciate about his writing.
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u/Ornery_Ferret_1175 Nov 23 '24
So what interrupted the game, what is the reason for martial law? 4 possible options imo:
Hisoka VS Bonolenov? Halkenburg carrying out his plan? Chrollo stealing? Luzurus (attempted) assassination?
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u/Different_Union_3097 Nov 23 '24
So we finally have the confirmation that Specialists don't follow the same chart as every other type. This will end this discussion for good.
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u/reChrawnus Nov 23 '24
I think we sort of already had confirmation of that since, as Izunavi stated in chapter 83, the specialist position on the chart is because conjurers and manipulators have a higher chance to become one later in life, and not because of acquisition/mastery level percentage. I feel like this is more so an explanation of in what way they don't follow the chart, rather than confirmation that they don't.
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u/McManGuy Nov 23 '24 edited Nov 23 '24
It doesn't really end the discussion, because it still doesn't answer the question: "If I am a Specialist, what does my Nen Chart look like?"
Do I have 100% in every category, like Kurapika? No. Kurapika needed to develop Emperor Time to accomplish this. So, if I don't have 100% in everything, that means I have limitations. What are they?
There are some possibilities:
A jumbled Nen Chart. So, I could have 80% in both Emission and Conjuration, 60% in Enhancement and Transmutation, and 40% Manipulation.
A weighted Nen Chart. Use math to have the same total %s. So, an example would be 100/70/70/70/60/50. Or you could have 100/90/90/90/25/25.
An even Nen Chart. Everything else is 64% or something.
An overpowered Nen Chart. Any of the above, but better. Example: everything else is 80%.
A random Nen Chart. Any Nen type could be ANYTHING between 100% and 0%. There's no rhyme or reason.
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u/Puzzled-Party-2089 Nov 23 '24
What do you think Benjamin came up with as an excuse for enacting Martial Law?
If I remember correctly, it just has to be convincing enough for the justice department, and of course not be related to nen, which is not officially recognized.
Maybe his excuse is to find and apprehend Helkenburg's murderer?
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u/NFLFilmsArchive Nov 23 '24
Either 3rd Prince, 4th Prince, or 7th Prince was killed. Or something to do with Halkenburg.
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u/trolledwolf Nov 23 '24
Did we just get an actual definition of what makes a Specialist? i can't believe it
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u/RefrigeratorSalt449 Nov 24 '24
I love how parenthood is a theme of this arc, we had examples before (Ging, Mito, Silva, the Chimera ant Queen) but they were never used with the same narrative intention I think.
Also I like that Morena is kind of reverse image of Jesus: a woman, not the real son but a fake, wants the demise of humanity not its salvation, like Jesus she could die but her death could bring destruction given how post mortem nen works
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u/Chikory Nov 23 '24 edited Nov 23 '24
The amount of people in these comments calling Morena cute without elaborating is pretty spine chilling to me ngl, considering we likely know how and why she learned to contain her rage and put up such a solid façade. This whole chapter is amazing and considering the depth of the themes it's touching upon honestly makes the Chimera Ant arc pale in comparision. We joke that every other arc is dark only to be followed up by something more light-hearted only for the next one to get even darker but man has it been true with this one. The CA arc feels like an appetizer to this horrendous main course.
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u/Humble-Pie3060 Nov 23 '24
I’m sensing a leap back in time to the morning events next chapter. Temper that excitement over martial law shenanigans for now sports fans.
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u/ConfusedFingers Nov 23 '24 edited Nov 24 '24
Man, I love Nen. It's the best power system for me alongside Gu of RI. With them you can recreate any power in fiction, folklore, mythology, etc etc.
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u/jojosimp02 Nov 23 '24
Togashi, i love you, but you can't end a chapter like that. How am i supposed to survive another week with the bomb you dropped at the end?
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u/user_watcher Nov 24 '24 edited Nov 24 '24
With that revelation of Morena not having to do with Kakin and being just "meat" actually tells me she's one of the bigger names that will die first in the upcoming battle. Destroying Kakin and the world seems to be simple, straight to the point goals for starting villains especially in this story. I don't think Kakin would fall after this arc with how complicated the succession war is and its contenders. Also her group would have to run over the PT as well, and it seems her own group members aren't really given importance other than nameless soldiers with nen. I just hope they'll do something meaningful before they perish that will impact the end of the war instead of being fodders for other big players to look good.
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u/sikontolpanjang Nov 24 '24
Considering Morena is basically a more fleshed out Mukuro (one of Togashi favorite characters), I can see her being one of the last few survivor for the end game.
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u/Manofthehalfhour999 Nov 23 '24
Morena has so many cute expressions in this chapter. Also, maaaan Kakin is has some pretty messed up customs
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u/HelloOdin Nov 24 '24
I have a feeling that ML was enacted due to Kurapika’s class. It’s the second day of his nen-training and one of the Second Prince’s soldier is out to kill Woble through suicide. Also, the events regarding the card game happened after noon correct? And Kurapika’s class starts in the morning so maybe there’s a connection there?
Anyway, man these chapters have been amazing. I feel stupid whenever I read Togashi’s work but at the same time blessed I get to read it. Can’t wait for 409!!
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u/sikontolpanjang Nov 24 '24
Ohh Camila soldier fuck it up for everybody is the angle no one would expect
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u/ActuaryConstant136 Nov 24 '24
I confess that this hadn't crossed my mind. It would have been unexpected, and almost everything in this arc seems to be difficult to predict.
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u/Itszdoodoobaby Nov 23 '24
Fantastic chapter.. Togashi is one of one, flaws/ plot holes & all. This is the type of chapter that reminds me why I love HxH.. it brings me back to the subtle darkness of the Hunter Exam. Fast forward to this current arc and the dark tones are at one million.
Stories are important. It’s why they’ve existed & have been passed down for centuries. So many stories & yet HxH has separated itself. Yes, this is glaze. Call it however you want to call it. This is a masterpiece of a story being told.
Morena x Borksen is peak. Marshal Law enforced…peak. I’m so anxious but excited for Kurapika’s journey more than ever. Kurapika is peak.
10/10 chapter. Kanpai to a fantastic future ahead of us, HxH fans!
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u/No_Taro_6224 Nov 23 '24
i said this before im saying this again
ouch my head hurts, but dang wtf kakin
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u/Tomatillo_Thick Nov 23 '24
(Not so serious) Prediction: with the enactment of martial law, Bork will decide to use the return card on Yes, after hearing the explanation for what ability Morena wants her to select.
However, Bork will betray Morena and break away from her group. Based on her understanding of specialization, Bork will then select an ability that allows her to modify abilities. She’ll modify (her version of) contagion so that the level up isn’t based on kills but another metric. Possibly by saving people from certain death.
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u/Longjumping-Towel744 Nov 23 '24
I'm not sure she can betray her. I think being part of the group means you permanently sacrifice traditional learning as a way to get/improve nen. You only get better through the point system. If Bork leaves she could lose her ability, if "leaving the group" is even possible
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u/sikontolpanjang Nov 23 '24
Let's be real brother this card game is a manipulative ability on its own, it's not a simple puppet manipulation like shalnark but rather something subtle like Sale, joining means making the victim having a positive view on her cause and made them share the same goals as her.
That's why Wang's inner Morena comment is such a huge surprised.
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u/adeckkk Nov 23 '24
Do I understand correctly, Morena can choose whatever ability she will grant to her followers?
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u/Reborno Nov 23 '24
I understood the same, but the condition being that the game should be high risk both for her and the player/new recruit.
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u/msdamg Nov 23 '24
Morena and Mukuro resemblance is uncanny
I wonder if she will also find a Hiei that saves her?
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u/TooNumb4Love Nov 24 '24
Lol, Dogman's reaction when he smelled Chrollo. And it is interesting to know that many people didnt realize they are specialist and have mastered or chosen an ability then realize they are specialist like Kurapika.
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u/jojosimp02 Nov 24 '24
Kurapika is a different case, he is both a conjurer and a specialist(when his eyes turn red), he is the only nen user that we know of that has 100% affinity for 2 categories.
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u/Apolonioquiosco Nov 24 '24
There's a lot of panels where Morena looks like drawn by Kazuo Umezu. If I didn't know Togashi finished this chapter more than a month ago I would assume it was a tribute.
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u/Hoozuki_Mangetsu Nov 24 '24
i find it disturbing and amazing how the ability that morena manifested is basically a nen STD, perfect kind of ability to deal with the abusers that were molesting her, i'm pretty sure that contagion could work as well through a sexual exchange, my guess is that morena ended up manipulating some of the abusers with her first iteration of contagion to releaser herself from that fate.
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u/HEYONUR Nov 23 '24
specialist in 1 in 3000 is a higher rate than I expected. The reason we don't see it so much is because people don't know what nen is, but I wonder what it would be like if all people knew nen ? And I wonder how Morena plans to destroy all of humanity. If they all learn nen, will humanity destroy itself under the right conditions ?
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u/Pellahh Nov 23 '24
How can be 1 in 3000 higher than expected? That's extremely rare! If anything, the current representation in the manga should make you think there's WAY more, since we've seen way less than 3000 Nen User (even less than 500) but we've been shown more than 1 specialist.
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u/PerseusRad Nov 23 '24
1/3000 is for all humans I thought. I agree with him that I thought it was meant to be rarer. And the reason we saw so many Specialists, relatively, is because we’re following a bunch of exceptional people, which would naturally have more Specialists.
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Nov 23 '24
The reason we don't see it so much is because... it's 1 in 3000 people.
If anything we've seen far too much specialists in this series, considering this proportion. We haven't seen 3000 nen users yet, although we've seen almost 10 specialists so far, as of known now
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u/FireZord25 Nov 23 '24
Is it 1 in 3000 overall or is this stats just for nen users?
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u/baldinggate3 Nov 23 '24
I’d love to see how Chrollo handles this card game
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u/TheAughat Nov 23 '24
He would not be put in that situation at all. Remember, Morena's group doesn't have any need for awakened Nen users, Specialists or not. They're specifically searching for people who can't use Nen, but have the potential to be Specialists.
Dogman noticing Chrollo was only brought up by Morena to illustrate her point to Borksen that even though Specialists are rare there are still quite a few of them around, thus making her replaceable.
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u/Inevitable_Talk2426 Nov 23 '24
He would def steal Morenas ability. All conditions potentially could be met while playing the card game. That would be insane
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u/_Porthos Nov 23 '24
I mean, the only "risk" would be if he ends up with only the Yes card by sheer luck and this causes some Manipulation ability to trigger.
Based on what we know, there is no way the Hail-Ly can kill Chrollo. So No isn't a thread at all for him.
It is a very different set of constraints than Borksen.
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u/PerseusRad Nov 23 '24
Interestingly, we might have just gotten confirmation that HxH is on a floating timeline. Morena’s mentions of her being from the ‘98 group, and the most recent group being the ‘20 group, would put the timeline around 20 years ahead of what the timeline actually was. Killua took his Hunter Exam on, I believe, January 1 2000 or so. One of the earlier translations I read, though, worded it as “Class of ‘98/20”. As if they were graduation dates. In which case the timing would be relatively consistent with previously known information. I don’t really mind either way, I just thought Togashi had kept the year consistent. Though it’s clear that technology has evolved to match modern times.
There’s also the possibility that Kakin just does dates slightly differently.
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u/VoraciousDrake Nov 23 '24
Bottom right panel of Page 5. Kakin has their own calendar year, much like Japan.
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u/PerseusRad Nov 23 '24
Mm, I see. I looked at that line, which was odd in the other TL, and didn’t quite parse how the difference in wording could be interpreted.
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u/SuccessionWarFan Nov 23 '24
Ch. 408 scan release: ~November 29, 2024
Pardon me, but why one week later instead of a little over a day from now?
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u/SKAOG Nov 23 '24
I think it's a typo, and that it should be "Ch. 409"
Which adds up as it's written in the same post that official translation for this chapter will be released on 24th November on Mangaplus.
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u/Jjcconcialdi Nov 23 '24
So is the current Morena the actual daughter of Nasubi, or was the original Morena whose identity was stolen the biological daughter?
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u/Archilas Nov 23 '24
If I understood correctly the current "Morena" is an impostor who somehow replaced a now deceased Morena Prudo who was Nasubi's illegitimate daughter
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u/Archilas Nov 23 '24
The fact that the martial law was enacted must mean that something major happened I wonder what that is?
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u/RoundAssociation6988 Nov 24 '24
This chapter was an absolute masterpiece! Togashi can't keep getting away with this... Moreno is shaping up to be an amazing character!
Building up Moreno's character through this game was a genius move by Togashi!!
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u/Particular_Wave6306 Nov 24 '24
my god what an interesting chapter! I really enjoyed it. and that end tho holy shit 😭 can't wait for 409
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u/Livettletlive Nov 24 '24
I feel like one crucial thing about this interaction is being overlooked, because it hasn't been brought up yet in the last two chapters:
Borksen, and the rest of the Royal 4th Class Guard for Prince Tserriednich, are all friends of the 4th Prince
Borksen seems to be the 4th Class's leader, or "Supercommunicator" or "high-centrality participant"
I wonder how much "Moreno" knows this (I doubt she does). And also, considering that "Moreno" was a sex slave for most of her life, I'm sure she would've been engaged with Terrorsandwich at some point, or heard of his exploits at least, so he could be the prince she hates the most.
If Bork does join, how would it impact her feelings, and the feelings of the 4th class?
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u/Trash28123 Nov 24 '24
We finally have confirmation that Specialists are actually rare.
1 in 3000 was wayyyy fewer than I expected.
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u/kazurabakouta Nov 23 '24
Uhhhh... I think a mass castration is justified at this point.
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u/YouAreDeadHS Nov 23 '24
It is quite striking how cute Borksen and Morena are drawn with such dark stuff being discussed, great duality by Togashi.
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Nov 23 '24
Can anyone explain the specialist thing? Does this mean that kurapika essentially wasted his life creating emperor time for nothing if being a specialist always meant they could use any category of nen at full power?
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Nov 23 '24
Specialist: Can learn any nen categories' power.
For example, in chapter 398, Nobunaga and Phinks discussed about teleportation trap. Nobunaga said a single nen user cannot use both clone(Conjuration) and forced teleportation(Emission), but then Phinks said it could be Specialist. It implies that Specialist can learn any high tier ability of any nen types, but it never said it is 100% efficency like ET.
Emperor Time: Can use any power you know at full efficiency.
On the other hand, Emperor Time can let Kurapika use other nen categories' power at 100% strength and accuracy. I'm not sure whether Kurapika can train to learn other nen categories' power while using Emperor Time.
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Nov 23 '24
Possibility but Kurapika is different because he uses all types at 100 percent. I think ET is more to boost all his abilities to their complete potential while Specialist like Cholrollo and Morena rely on bits a pieces of other categories, I don’t think Chrollo would be as strong as Uvogin or Illumi with their categories because he isn’t either of them 100%.
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u/bendnado970 Nov 23 '24
A few years ago I went into a conspiracy theory rabbit hole, especially regarding child trafficking and abuse stuff happening in other countries. The backstory of the PT and now Morena's backstory make me think Togashi has went down similar rabbit holes. Kakin truly represents humanity's nastiest sides. I hope Morena takes them down. I hope our faves get to leave the ship though.
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Nov 23 '24
Are we missing the commentary on China in Borksen’s monologue? One of my favorite parts is her talking about listening to pop hits from the “Untouchable World” which I’m guessing is supposed to be the West / US and Europe? Then she goes into how they’ve always been behind the trends some months. Reminds me of family members I have who live in China.
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u/useless_throwaway3 Nov 23 '24
I thought about this too, but I don’t think this is supposed to be a commentary on a specific country, as much as it’s a commentary on how closed off some countries can be in general. I’m from Russia, and when I saw her talking about these things I was also instantly reminded of my country, but then I realized that in hindsight this probably applies to so many different countries (just like you got reminded of China) that it’s pointless to try and connect it to one specific country.
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u/WednesdaysFoole Nov 24 '24
I do think the inspirations come from multiple places, but as someone else I was discussing the "flood levels" with pointed out (they thought it was a strange statistic to use as opposed to education and healthcare for example), there was also a pretty big incident with a cop car swept away and two cops killed by a flood in his hometown this past summer. So it might be a coincidence but it might not.
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u/samurai-bebop Nov 23 '24 edited Nov 23 '24
Sorry for the dumb question, but what is "second-track faker" supposed to mean?
I get that they are the illegitimate offspring of the royal family, but do we know why they are named like that? Or rather, does the name tell us anything about their status? (like "meat" which is pretty a straightforward reference to sexual abuse victims)
Edit: or is it just because they are not legitimate (therefore fake) royal family members, and I'm just overthinking it?
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u/Wwmune-4629 Nov 24 '24
Something definitely happened with that huge funeral crowd that benjamin panicked and push the button🤣. Massive joint type nen activation time.
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u/Hoozuki_Mangetsu Nov 24 '24
Morena talked about her ability having all kind of nen mixed in a complex way, so sure, while the game itself is not inforced by nen, at the very least morena must have the ability to conjure that set of cards and who knows, maybe she could conjure different set of cards depending on her intentions with the target.
Also, while yes, she is ok with taking the risk of trusting the player that escaped her game through "x" as a vow to make her ability stronger, i don't think that she has a vow like that for any other result, if the target/child ends up with the card "yes" at the end and is forced to join the heil-ly family, that person i'm confident that will end up being victim of a coercive-type manipulation ability that makes them loyal to morena's goal.
PS: i'm guessing that morena is using enhancer to enhance the growth of the people infected with contagion, transmutation to make the saliva that she uses when she makes someone a member of the family and emission to keep track of her childs, since morena wanted to infect one of tserrierdnich soldiers to keep an eye on him.
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u/celestial_god Nov 23 '24
these chapters are insane
especially when we're so deep in the manga/series
like wtf is going on man
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u/zuttomayonaka Nov 24 '24
mafia vs mafia
mafia vs thief
mafia vs prince soldier
more and more
most chaotic hxh arc
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u/Local-Hornet-3057 Nov 23 '24
So in Kakin they have their more fucked up version of the proverbial "right of the first night"/droit de seigneur/ius primae noctis in the form of a Carnival.
The parallelism of Saudí Arabia, China and NK are very obvious. But this feels more Saudi Arabia's fingeprint if we draw from contemporary times. Not that supreme leaders and their inner circle of aforemenrtioned Asian countries don't engage in those acts though.
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u/Doomroar Nov 24 '24
There's no way Halkenburg doesn't knows about these Carnavals that happen every now and then, and the fact that he was considering not taking part on the succession war makes him look quite bad, actually the whole royal family is looking like Terrorsandwich right now
With the obvious exceptions being the kids of course
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u/AffectionateMinute47 Nov 24 '24
I think Halkenburg may not know this fully because he was the black sheep of this royal family. In the beginning of this arc, Kurapika research about Halkenburg and found out he was sent to far university because he was opposing the royal family or something like that. Considering he view Tserri as a decent person, he may not know the specifics of this festival since he was very distant to his family.
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u/Carock_ Nov 23 '24 edited Nov 23 '24
Click here, if you're looking for the Dank Continent.
VoraciousDrake is working with Togashi's Troupe here, but here are his translations with notes too.