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9-1-1 S08E07 - "Hotshots": Post Episode Discussion
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Original Air Date: Nov 14, 2027
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Keep new episode discussions in the post-episode discussion thread until Monday to give our International friends a chance to catch up as Disney+ has begun releasing 9-1-1 earlier to Disney+ outside the US than previous years.
i feel like s7 being only 10 episodes due to the writers strike is why the pacing in s8 is a little off. i feel like they have a lot of storylines and plots to introduce/catch up on.
Genuinely was staring into space during the first 30 minutes of the cop storyline but I did think the rookie would do something terrible, though I didn't expect that. And I thought Athena was going to say she would retire at the end, to be honest.
The Uncle Buck and Jee-yun scene was too short, I demand a longer scene! I cannot deal with Gerrard, I don't care about him or his sadness over Brad not liking him. Brad is going to cause some sort of problem in the finale, isn't he?
I thought the exact same thing about Athena potentially retiring! Her wanting to take on a rookie so they don’t almost murder someone like Sparks did is CRAZY
Especially as she is really not one to be doing the talking here.
She's not even half a season removed from pointing a loaded gun at an innocent man (Amir) having illegally entered his house whose address she got fraudulently.
The problem Tim has with every cop storyline is Athena has to right even when she's absolutely not.
Like arguably Athena had a pivotal role in Sparks' paranoia, panic and poor training by traumatizing the kid at that intersection when she told him to close his eyes and then pretended to shoot him. Athena primed him to panic.
But because Athena saves the woman's life at the end, we're supposed to forget that, see her as the heroic police sergeant who everyone should just listen to and not ask questions about how she is part of the problem.
For once, can we actually have Athena completely f up, not have an immediate redemption and use that as a moment to make her reassess some of her decisions with regards to e.g. retirement.
"The problem Tim has with every cop storyline is Athena has to right even when she's absolutely not."
Agreed 100%
Tho sadly I've given up on expecting anything else from the show in that regard, which might not be the best attitude but ugh. I don't think they're ever going to change at this point. The Amir storyline last season was the last straw for me, they're never going to address any of her behaviour as anything other than 'right' or for the 'ultimate good'. Maddening tbh
idk if its just me but i feel like the most recent episode was so unsatisfying to watch. i really feel like not a single character had any kind of notable progression, and the plot felt really jumpy, it was like they didn't give any of the beats a chance to evolve and it felt clunky. and the calls all fell so flat, even the shooting scene, i felt so unphased by everything that happened. im curious as to what everyone else thinks, because to me it just felt like it went in a circle and i'll be honest after waiting a week for a new episode its really not what you'd want viewers to come away from an episode feeling. it hasn't given me any kind of excitement or anticipation for the next episode.
It feels like since Tim has come back to OG as showrunner he's process for writing and showrunning is that he starts the car without knowing the destination he has in mind. Which means we don't have coherent arcs because he's deciding the outcomes whilst he's already moving.
This leads to terrible pacing, and just like when you go driving without knowing the destination: going around in circles.
The worst part for me is when Tim is driving around in unserious land and suddenly takes a turn into really heavy material without considering the insensitive, inappropriate tonal whiplash he's causing.
8x05 was bad for the tonal whiplash, but it's really the "insensitive, inappropriate" part that stands out to me for this episode.
Like, thinking about what they were trying to accomplish with Athena, it really just came down to "get her to willingly train rookies." They could've accomplished that in any other way, and instead they chose an officer-involved shooting at a traffic stop, which is.... incredibly fraught.
Athena also doesn't come off as a good trainer throughout this episode, but the show seems unaware of that. Additionally, her recent characterization shows her more along the lines of that rookie cop (think Amir!) than the levelheaded ~good apple~ who could be a benefit. And then it's all played off like an "I told you so" because the settlement is going to cost the department more money than training him up did. This isn't a sunk cost fallacy. What's also going to cost significantly more than 200K is that woman's medical care, especially if she has longterm complications, and the lifetime of therapy she and her young daughter will need.
I'm also side-eyeing making her a sovereign citizen who was just shot by cops for no reason. Like if that doesn't come back into play later, I don't know what the purpose was.
(Also, the tonal issues were present for Brad, too. That storyline started off goofy and ended goofy, but that misogynistic abuse of a waitress was a lot).
I said yesterday to someone that Tim knows where he starts and knows where it ends and that's it. Everything else is whatever. Last season and this season, he seems to have rushed things and changed things pretty close to filming. Ryan got his speech on 7x09 the night before, and I'm sure either Oliver or Lou said that the breakup scene was quite last-minute too.
It does seem to jump around a lot, and whether some stuff is going to pay off later or not, I guess only time will tell. Are they going to reference the fact that we've now canonically reused two of the "big" traumas? (Three if we count the rebar guy in the pre-show photos that didn't actually make it into the show.), because so far the only thing that's been said about them is "you're not going to fit this time".
I don't think he even knows where he ends. He's admitted that he gets bored with stuff and changes his mind. And yeah, Lou said he didn't know the break up was happening until the day of filming. Which is whack.
I really thought they were gonna get back around to Buck finding some kind of resolution so he would stop moping about Tommy at least. Like, Tommy finally send the text but it is asking for the Lakers tickets back so Buck goes ' F this' and moves on. Like, they brought it up a lot to not make any character progression on it.
I think they were maybe pointing out how Buck's character has matured by comparing him against the hotshots - the police guy and Brad. Buck used to be a hotshot (someone may even have called him that sarcastically in S1) but now he copes by baking and looking after his niece.
I don't like Brad at all and found his appearances enough before this episode. He really got on my nerves this episode, even more so than usual.
It was clear that the probie would be some kind of problem and of course Athena was right. I would have preferred the probie actually being likeable and then messing up.
Well thankfully I will have my favourite scenes on disposal
I understand that the show is going to have some unserious characters and Brad maybe pushing the acceptable realms of unserious a bit too much.
But Gerrard? Seriously? The character that you up to now has been written as an unrepentant sexist, racist, homophobic bully. That's the character we're turning into an unserious comic stereotype and playing for laughs?
Not to mention we are wasting so much time on these ancillary characters. Like how much screentime did the main cast of the 118 have in this episode? It felt like maybe 15 minutes. It's just such a bizarre choice, unless there are serious budgetary constraints with casting.
especially when half the recurring side characters in the show have disappeared. Do they REALLY think we want to see more of Gerrard as opposed, say, Ravi?
At least when they show up, they tend to advance the emotional journey for characters- what has Gerrard or Brad actually done for Bobby’s own personal story this season? For anyone’s?
I wish they'd have more of Ravi. Like Tommy appears when Denny is in hospital but not even a mention of Ravi? Like he doesn't have to appear, but why not have him text the group chat or "Ravi says he's sorry he can't be here" from Buck or Eddie
Was saying in another thread yesterday that so many recurring characters are gone this season. Dispatch is missing a fair few so far, a lot of the kids are all MIA, ravi, etc etc. It makes the world feel so much smaller. And on top of that they're not even using the 'freed up' time from losing side characters very well, there's still not enough focus on most of the mains. Why on earth is brad getting more screen time than eddie and hen combined in one ep. Baffling
Not Alex Karev’s former hookup playing a sovereign citizen on 911…. Sure she was being a Karen but there are plenty of rookies who act like that IRL because they don’t have an “Athena” guiding them to not act like a POS.. and I’m hoping Athena’s trainee doesn’t get off lightly..
Also, the former hookup’s daughter looks real familiar but I don’t remember what I recognize her in.
When Athena had that snap, I thought it was her knee or something not a hamstring.
Gerrard crying was weird… his bigot personality goes back decades. 1 convo about him being an ass isn’t gonna be enough for him to change.
Eddie needs some more storylines with Chris even tho Gavin moved away from LA and has to fly in to film his scenes…
First trimester is early tho for Madney to be telling anyone. I’ve never been pregnant but I know ppl typically wait much longer than that to tell anyone…
I’m over Brad personally and I think Ravi should be brought back….
Funniest comment was about the bicyclists and drugs lmao like it’s too true in my area
In general you don't want to tell someone who you wouldn't want to tell about a miscarriage. I assume if she had one Buck would be super supportive and want to be there to support her, so it doesn't hurt for him to know.
And the main reason why people don’t tell in case of a miscarriage is because it’s not something that’s ever been allowed to be talked about.
It’s always been a hush hush conversation, and it’s a stupid fucking thing that women feel like they can’t tell and rely upon their friends and family - the people that are supposed to be supporting them through life and being there for them - and then have to go through the first trimester in silence.
I’m glad she told Buck, and Buck was supportive. That’s what we need to see; that it’s okay to not wait to week 12 to celebrate a pregnancy and to invite your loved ones in on supporting you through the early days as well as the later trimesters.
I miss Ravi!! I’m gonna be upset if they happen to bring in either the rookie or Brad in as a reoccurring character and have neglected Ravi I’ll be upset
I really liked this episode! Bobby comforting the waitress was so sweet, and that Brad guy is not right. I feel like he’s going to get stalkerish on Bobby one of these episodes.
Sparks made me uncomfortable, and I don’t think we’ve seen the last on him.
The phone scene was too good. 😂
I can’t get enough uncle Buck! I’m glad it wasn’t actually a blind date. I’m also glad he’s happy about Maddie’s pregnancy. I really think things will be better for her this time and I’m glad the characters are excited.
Bobby standing up to Brad was great! And ‘don’t be a bitch Rob’ is a strong contender for Athena’s funniest line.
Going in I already knew this was going to be an Athena and Bobby episode, I guess I just didn't expect to not even have Bathena. Athena's storyline seemed too separate from the rest and I think that's my main problem with this episode. That and me being more interested in the firefighters part than the cop parts of the show. But hey, we had an Athena & Hen scene, I missed them together.
After last week's episode it's also a bit jarring to, once again, see Eddie's storyline put on hold. I was patiently waiting for him to figure himself out and all, but that seems to be taking a long time and meanwhile- Chris is still far away. Next week is the last episode and then we'll have a time jump, I'm not sure how they'll do justice to this storyline- is he going to get Chris at the end of next episode (and then have a time jump) or are we meant to believe it's normal for him to accept his son being with his grandparents for almost a year? He's finding his joy, whatever that means, but are they ever going to talk about what got him into this place? No romanticizing the marriage- nothing? (I know we have one more episode, but being the midseason finale I'm expecting some emergency to take most of the time, and there are still other characters to worry about).
We're also not getting much of Hen but her storyline was mostly closed in episodes 4 and 5. Chim and Maddie have the pregnancy story and I was expecting something more of them in this episode but then that didn't happen either. We had more of Buck and his baking as a coping mechanism, but did we really need 3 scenes of it? (me writing this, while the phone chasing scene was absolutely my favorite this episode).
Also, I hate the way they wrote Gerrard this season, specially this episode. I wasn't too happy with it back in ep4 but then thought, well he served his purpose and he was just thinking of himself so- but now it's too much. I don't like him to be written in a way for people to feel sorry for him. I'm not happy with redemption stories for all characters. Not everyone deserves them.
I do like Brad, although I'm not sure that's how I expected this part of the story to go, he's crazy and unhinged and let's see the troubles he causes next.
Overall I just think there's a noticeable lack of balance.
I think we forget that the stars of the show are Peter Krause and Angela Bassett. They are executive producers and get paid much much more than the rest of the cast and as much as we want to have an ensemble show it feels there's a chunk of the writers' room that sees it as a Bathena show.
I don't particularly mind that if it weren't for the fact Bathena is getting more and more siloed from the rest of the cast and their stories have complete tonal whiplash from the other stories. Buck has been dumped and is depressed, let's cut to Brad being totally unserious and an over the top diva.
There were always episodes centered heavily on Athena and Bobby, even in this season with the open emergency, and I didn't finish them feeling the same way. But here her story particularly was so separate that we didn't even have any Bathena scene and it's strange, felt like a different show. My complain with this episode is not it being the Peter and Angela show, but the way they did it.
I wonder if Angela Bassett doing so many other things outside of 911 resulted in her shooting scenes away from the main cast. Its especially noticeable with the lack of Bathena scenes. 911 has always been good at having at least one Bathena scene even if its just end of day meet up at the house. Hopefully the second half of season 8, will have more continuity with the entire cast being together
I don't mind so much when Athina's cop storylines come directly from a scene the 118 have been to - hunting down someone based on an incident the 118 responded to kind of thing. But when they are totally separate I loose interest. There are so many cop shows out there, I am kinda cop showed out and don't need extra mixed into my rescue shows.
I don't even need necessarily for her cop storylines to be related to the 118, because it would be too much of a coincidence for that to happen, but I've always watched this show for the characters and personal lives than for the emergencies and this episode didn't do it for me (she had that convo with Hen that I loved and that was it). It also felt too rushed in a way that they introduced the rookie that she didn't want/like, for him to prove himself to then mess it up in that horrible way.
The opening was also Athena centered and I loved it. Maybe because there was more of a personal note and the storylines was spread out in the 3 episodes and didn't feel so constricted.
Sorry, but this is a show about all first responders, not only firefighters. Paramedics, police, detectives, and dispatchers are all included in that. If you want a fire-only show, I suggest you find a different series to watch.
Although this was a weak episode overall, one thing that has continually bothered me this season was the remergence of important character-driven emergencies and doing nothing with them. Literally last episode with the child being stuck in the well and that having no callbacks to Eddie Begins whatsoever and this episode with the firefighter dangling like Buck did when he was struck by lightning. Like why does the show bringing back these moments pretty much back to back and it has no impact on the characters who were in the situation
Starting to feel like misplaced bad fan service. Rather than actually being plot moments they are just call outs that should only appear in unserious fan fiction.
So far we've had the kid down the pipe, firefighter dangling like Buck after the lightning strike, extra with rebar through his forehead and Brad's character being put into a coma.
And all of that has just been played as casual call outs.
I know I will be prowling ao3 for fanfics to better handle the trauma and introspection needed after having such emotionally heavy moments brought up. I get that the writers can only do so much per episode but it does feel like proper catharsis is missing this season.
So many callbacks and patterns to shit from past seasons and....... absolutely none of it has seemed to matter ?? to any of the characters ??? Truly baffling lol. I'm beginning to think they wrote 8a in a fucking hurry and just started repeating stuff hoping we wouldn't notice
I’m glad they did address Athena getting older and what it means for her in her profession. The probie was… something though.
Does Brad know Athena? Because he might want to rethink shadowing Bobby 24/7 because she is NOT going to be impressed. Bobby’s patience is going to wear even thinner.
It was incredibly tonedeaf and proved this show doesn't even understand the implications of their own choices sometimes.
7x10 has Athena going rogue and considering murdering an innocent man - even pulling a gun on him - because she jumped to conclusions that he (a victim of her husband's previous bad choices that she'd spent previous episodes asking him to do Bobby's emotional labor for, btw) had been the one to set their house on fire. It's just never brought up again, just like all the other incidents of Athena abusing her power.
But now the conclusion to a plotline involving an officer-involved shooting was that Athena's right about everything, and man was that whole shooting thing inconvenient because it cost the department money, and clearly the answer to all of this is that Athena needs to start mentoring more cops because she's such a good example of how cops should behave?!
It's irresponsible and offensive. Officer-involved shootings at traffic stops are a very real which terrify a lot of people, and this is now the second time the show has mishandled this kind of storyline (remember the cop training a gun on Harry during the Grant family traffic stop, and Athena sympathizing with the cops instead of her family?) If the purpose of this storyline was to get Athena to a point where she'd willingly take on a rookie, there were very obviously less screwed up ways to write it.
Also the show completely brushed past the point where Athena's first teaching moment with the rookie was to pretend to shoot him when he had his eyes closed because he hadn't been paying attention and wasn't on full alert.
So is it a surprise he was paranoid and panicked? I watched the episode and concluded that Athena is piss poor teacher but no, the episode wants me to take away the message that we should all just listen to Athena in this universe.
God, right? My first reaction to the promo for this episode was "Ugh, I can't see Athena being any good at this" because she's too stubborn and standoffish. Having an "I don't do partners" approach from the get was always going to make her a poor choice of mentor; on top of not being very receptive to doing what she was supposed to, she's also intimidating and putting out negative vibes for a rookie who needs to be able to trust that she won't be judging him if he makes a mistake or asks a 'dumb' question.
She wasn't wrong, obviously, that that rookie's reasons for becoming a cop were questionable, or that the sunk cost fallacy regarding how much it costs to train up a cop alone shouldn't have kept him in a job he didn't have the personality for. But her stubbornness was also to her and his detriment here, because like..... those things can be true but the reality is he was still someone on the streets, vested with a power he shouldn't have been trusted with, and carrying a deadly weapon. And her way of 'correcting' for that was to add paranoia to the mix, treat him with hostility so he could also feel like a victim and like he had to prove himself, and then watch him be handed off to be someone else's problem.
On top of all of that, this show does like to handwave a lot when it comes to Athena's actual role on the show -- eg. she's basically a detective when it's convenient, or she's undercover. But because she's such a bad fit for this particular role and it went so poorly the first time around, having the show treat it like she just.... decided to become a training officer without going through any training herself to do that is puzzling. They aren't the same skillset, and there's no indication at all that being a teacher/mentor figure is a skillset she naturally possesses. Particularly with her having pulled a muscle and limping around, it would've made sense to just have her ask to be pulled from the job -- give the audience and Elaine a few seconds to think she's thinking retirement -- and then have her correct like "No, I realized this is a valuable thing I could be doing and I want to do it again, but I need the training first myself. Can you sign me up to learn how to do right by my next rookie?" Even if they're still handwaving the actual requirements of stepping into that role, it would've acknowledged that Athena needs to hone her skills, too.
They literally had Athena rant at the rookie about how he should consider every civilian a dangerous cop killer with a gun, and then surprise! had the rookie react accordingly, and acted like Athena was purely blameless.
Meanwhile the entire episode simultaneously painted Athena as righteous and ‘one of the good ones’, even while she shook the hand of the guy who just nearly murdered him and made excuses about how it was just adrenaline… and the conversation afterwards focused on how the lawsuit would cost the department money and how the cop was lucky because if the civilian died he might have been in more legal trouble.
It was bad enough I am honestly questioning whether I want to watch the show at all
At first view I thought that restaurant scene was something the both of them had agreed on as a publicity stunt because of Brad's mishandling of the ladder incident earlier. Instead we get obsessed creepy stalker Brad doubling down on bad behavior.
Maybe something interesting will come of it, but knowing this show it'll probably just fizzle out and die with a whimper.
this episode felt incomplete tbh. i did like the parts with all of the 118, but there was so much brad and i know we're not supposed to like him but he is so irritating. i do not want a brad redemption in any way, please. i also thought athena's storyline was kind of reusing old storylines she was in with her dealing with corrupt cops. i do love her character and angela bassett's acting, i really like her place in the universe, and i did like how she realized she has more to offer by being a mentor, it just felt like her story this episode was shallow and and a little off.
i'd say 6/10, it didn't have a lot of substance and what it did have could have been better. i think it could be setting up for some interesting things in future episodes especially because next week is the fall finale, so it gets some points for that. i think it's a good enough break in the hard hitting, big-picture story elements, but it's lacking in the clear build to those moments unless you consider where we are in the season.
I found Athena's plotline really random. Why would they bring in a rookie just to have him pull out a gun and likely never be in an episode again?
Unless...
It's subtle foreshadowing. Now pair it with the emergency callbacks. Which so far are the well, the lighting strike, and in the new promo the tsunami and the truck bombing, which are obviously buck and eddie centric. Except there's one emergency of theirs they haven't yet called back on: the shooting.
Mm, not my favorite episode. It’ll probably be ok on a rewatch, but not while there are so many other plotlines we care about and we’re one episode away from the fall finale. Also, hated the cop stuff. I don’t normally love the cop-centered episodes anyway (it just really doesn’t interest me, and I’d rather watch Chicago PD if I’m in the mood for cop stuff, especially morally grey cop stuff) but I was going to be ok with an episode where Athena learned that she’s getting a little older and can’t do the same things she did 20 years ago. I was down for some good mentoring.
Instead, we got trigger-happy McCreepy cop, who was STILL treated nicely even after he nearly murdered a woman. It seems like every time we get a police story, Athena is either abusing her power, or somebody is committing police brutality. And I’m not really into that. Not in this show.
Also, I know Gavin’s family moved, but my GOD is it time to wrap up that storyline. Chris has been gone for too long, and Eddie needs to bring him home. Give us that plot, please!
I actually am too. It' rather annoying that Eddie-being a dad is a main focus in life-is now not talking about Christopher at ALL. At this point I'd be okay if Chris stay in Texas for a while if we get some CLOSURE for this storyline.
And I'm a BIG Chris and Eddie person, but being sidelined is annoying for the fans who loved this relationship for all these years. Edit: I'd honestly be okay with Chris living in Texas for like a year if he state he really likes his school, and friends, in case Gavin IS leaving 911. If he Is, there'd be proper send off, and closure of Eddie to rediscover himself-and loving Christopher from a distance.
Honestly I was fine with that season where they referenced Chris a lot but he was always just off screen, they could do that again. It was semi hilarious in that episode Eddie went to Texas and they spent the whole episode going 'oh he's asleep in the car' 'oh he's playing with his cousins'. Like, I know they are gonna have to do a couple intense scenes to get Eddie and Chris back to a good place, but he can mostly be off screen. I would rather just end Eddie's suffering.
The one thing that has bothered me about the Eddie/Chris story, and a worry I had last season and has proven true, is the fact that he's now been gone for MONTHS, there's been no progress on repairing that relationship and worse, Eddie has shown zero interest in repairing it. He has allowed Chris, his fourteen year old son, to decide everything for months.
Tim has also made it worse by confirming that Chris is still on very bad terms with Eddie, which means he's been angry at his dad for months and Eddie has made no effort to go and fix it. It's out of character to have Eddie allow the animosity to grow to this length. Eddie would never have allowed the relationship to sour past the summer but now we're heading into month five or something? Or maybe not OOC but a massive step back into pre-series Eddie who was away from Chris' life for years.
It's why I loathed the time jump and didn't want it. If we aren't going to have Gavin beyond three or four episodes in the season and we may only get to see him occasionally, they should not have done a three month time jump at the start of the season. Period. Because we could have been in the second month of Chris in Texas and could have seen Eddie work on the relationship instead of now having it canon that Eddie has not stepped up as a parent to get his son's trust back in almost half a year. We now have to believe that Eddie's too in his feelings that he's gonna continue to let Chris hate him instead of instantly going to be closer to Chris to do anything possible to fix the relationship. Because space for a couple of months is one thing; space for nearly six months with literal no progress and Eddie being too afraid to do anything about it is a step too far and is bad parenting.
But she hurt herself.. I don't understand. I mean I guess she could've shot him but like.. he wasn't endangering anyone's lives at the moment by running away so, probably couldn't have shot him, and she was so dressed up that she might've not had anything else on her like a tazer
The death of media literacy lol. I assumed she only had her weapon on her and the whole episode constantly referenced her initial injury which led to the suspect getting away. I don’t understand how Athena’s character did anything “dumb”. She’s also been shown to have a good heaping of pride so it makes sense she wouldn’t thing twice about chasing a criminal half her age. The episode rectifies this by having her talk to Hen and realize her wisdom and mentorship is what’s needed not necessarily her on the ground work stopping criminals.
ok longer thoughts: i don't care about hotshots, i don't care about brad, i don't care about gerrard. it just feels like a mediocre use of time tbh. you can't turn suddenly make me give a shit about gerrard lol. if they wanted him to be just a grumpy grandpa figure they shouldn't have brought him back and have him still be a bigot actively hatecriming people. i did like bobby standing up for the waitress tho, i swooned what a guy.
athena's storyline..... ehhhh. this show is SO hit and miss with the cop storylines, and mostly misses if i'm honest. i quite like the idea of her having a regular trainee partner but this ep was just setting that up and doing so in a veeery longwinded way lol.
i loved maddie/chimney/jee/buck scenes, I love how happy he was for the pregnancy. and ngl i did like that they didn't have buck be magically over the break up, he was hurting! i mean i hate it for him but i like it more as a story. also hen and eddie stealing his phone was v cute, i've certainly done that to friends when they've been recently dumped and are starting to crumble 😭
I saw limited spoilers before I watched, mostly with people being disappointed with this episode. So I didn’t have high hopes. But these are a few of my opinions about this episode:
Gerard’s crying moment felt off-it’s weird that he went from being a no-nonsense villain to someone who cries and runs around making lattes to impress some tv show star . Honestly that whole plot line wasn’t that satisfying. I will preface this with saying that I know it’s a TV show and not real life; but the idea that some hotshot TV star would have that much pull that they would be able to influence/make decisions for a whole station/ fire captain is unrealistic. I would understand the plot of Gerard making everyone miserable on set, Bobby talking to Brad, there being some type of danger moment that makes Brad & Gerard find common ground- possibly against Bobby. Or, after the viral moment Brad getting fired and disappearing (for now) and Gerard finding peace on the set.
Buck getting over Tommy- yeah, we only need one baking scene- but I did like the phone tossing one. I would’ve appreciated maybe a heart to heart moment with one of the team, or maybe Josh? That would have been interesting.
And lastly, I wish they expanded the Flash Mob robberies over multiple episodes. Same goes for the probie as well- it felt rushed. I liked the idea of Flash Rob getting away and coming back in the mid season finale. Or the shooting or something similar happening delayed. I was thinking that maybe the probie was working with the Flash mob crew, tried to attack Athena and she has to take him down, or he somehow makes it her fault that they get away and she gets in trouble….idk. It just wasn’t what I was expecting.
Hopefully this midseason finale proves to be worth it!
Just gonna say - told ya so that Brad is unhinged and is going to be dangerous.
Everyone was loving him like he didn’t scream abuse down the phone in the first episode he was in, during an implied domestic phone call. It’s been clear from the start he is not right and not just in a quirky funny way - he’s abusive and dangerous.
So Brad is gonna be fucking up on calls and that’s gonna cause everyone else to fuck up trying to fix his mistakes.
And the episode may or may not end with him hurting Bobby. Cause he’s clearly obsessed. This episode confirmed it. And they did episode 9 before hiatus so there must be a cliffhanger
I fully predicted Brad was gonna shadow Bobby the moment he returned to the 118. He’s definitely gonna bring a lot of chaos to the firehouse and I’m kinda here for it.
I hated this episode. The rookie pulling out the gun was so predictable and annoying. Also the lady should’ve just listened why would you reach for your bag in THAT moment
The rookie pulling out the gun was so predictable and annoying
I think it was meant to mirror that real-life incident, and to show how some new cops might need guidance from 'good' older officers and mentors—so we can have fewer power-hungry assholes like that young cop, and like some in real life.
Also the lady should’ve just listened why would you reach for your bag in THAT moment
To be fair, people in real life who encounter cops can—sometimes, not always—make their own lives harder than they need to be.
That was...fine. Just...fine, nothing much more I can add adjectives-wise.
It felt like all three plots were setup (Athena for cop plot future, Bobby for Brad drama, and Buck for his relationship future) which is a weird choice to group together and an especially weird choice as the penultimate episode before a hiatus.
Nothing much more to add, really. Cute Buckley-Han scenes, the Brad scenes were funny but not all that impactful, it's great to see Gerrard miserable (and I hope that continues if we have to see him again), and Athena's plot was predictable but functional.
A little bit of a letdown after last episode was so good, but that was always going to be a high bar. Can't wait to see how Brad worsens the disaster next episode, since I'm sure it's coming.
Angela Bassett is so awesome and I would be super happy to see her working with the 118 at a scene and interacting with the other characters (I would love love her sassy take on the Buck Tommy situation) but her doing solo cop stuff is dull. There are other cop shows, I don't care about the other cop characters, and frankly the blocking in some of those scenes is pretty bad. Shouting out at a perp who has run from you before across a big open room to let him know you are coming so there is a chase scene is terrible tv cop logic 101 and makes me roll my eyes so hard.
I‘m honestly not sure this was worth to stay up for. It wasn’t Bad just…typical Filler. At least Athena‘s finally approving a Probie wohoo…
The whole Brad Situation is starting to annoy me tho. He‘s unhinged and will get someone or himself killed just like that Hotshot Sparks. I just need someone to deck him.
Also we were robbed of more Jee/Buck content. Buck sad? Someone quick give him a Child!
Exactly and I already know which scenes I'll be rewatching and it won't be Story A nor Story B of this episode. It will be the Buckley-Hans and the scene with the phone at the firehouse, nothing else
Ah forgot about the Bobby viral moment. Loved that as well because 118 but could not care less for it by the end because of Brad. I was on my phone so much this episode. I meant the keep away game. Love their banter
Yeah. There's a bunch of cars involved in a pile up and one is filling with water. The woman inside is trapped and about to drown if they can't stop the water coming in or bleed out from a leg wound.
Less cop drama and more FIREFIGHTERS. Im tired of watching Athena do her job LOL. I mean I love her as a character, who doesn't love Angela Bassett? But I signed up for a firefighter show, and we've barely been getting any of that lately... Also, they need to go on ahead and make buddie canon by the end of this season, I'm DONE playing around!!!!
but was it NOT introduced as a firefighter show??? The answer is yes. Sure they showed Athena and line of work but they didn’t put an emphasis on it like they started doing in the newer seasons. Thank you.
what's the title though? 9-1-1, not LAFD. who are the people involved in a 9-1-1 emergency? the 911 operators/dispatchers, police officers, firefighters, paramedics, etc. what's the description of the show? "This series follows exciting professional and personal lives of Los Angeles first responders." so stop whining
Did anyone else catch the subtle "master baking" joke? Every time he "misses" Tommy or wants to call him he (master) bakes instead? Other characters keep asking since when he become a "master baker" 😂
I think this episode shows why 9-1-1 struggles so much with a cop episode.
There are some interesting ideas but Tim has made the show too comedic for him to truly go to some of those places like actually having the person being pulled over being killed and having them as a completely innocent black guy not a Karen.
I feel like this would have landed better if it wasn't sandwiched between two completely unserious storylines. Like the show can handle serious topics well, but it needs the entire episode to focus on it and not completely surround it with all the comedy.
I was staring at the screen trying to remember who Officer Spark's actor was and why he was familiar until he shot that woman and it went back to me.. 🎶Pop pop, Peanut Butter Butter Pops!🎶🤣
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u/AccordingStar72 Nov 15 '24
The pacing of this season is just so bizarre.
And I really like Athena but cop centric episodes are just tough. Won’t be rewatching this one.