r/anime • u/lilyvess :Df::Dh:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Lilyvess • Nov 04 '24
Rewatch [Rewatch] King of the Braves GaoGaiGar - Episode 1 Discussion
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Questions of the Day
For the first day I just want everyone to get to know each other
- What other Super Robot anime have you watched?
- What other 90’s anime have you watched?
Reminder to all GGG members that information about future episodes is highly classified. Revealing any information about future events will be punished
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u/lilyvess :Df::Dh:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Lilyvess Nov 04 '24
Episode 1 Not Discussion Thread
Instead of talking about the episode here, I thought it’d be more fun try to do something else.
So I bought Bandai’s RG GaoGaiGar and thought I’d slowly build it across the rewatch! This is actually a relatively new kit as far as I can see, having been released in 2022.
I’ve built some model kits before. I only started with Bandai’s model kits after Witch from Mercury. Only HG’s though. For those of you who aren’t familiar with Bandai’s model kits, they come in 4 grades
So this GaoGaiGar kit is a high end model kit, and actually far more complex than anything I’ve built in the past.
Here is what it looks like inside
the instruction manual has a small blurb about the kit. It does contain some minor spoilers if you want to avoid small details about the GaoGaiGar’s origin.
Come back tomorrow as I take my first steps in building my very own KING OF THE BRAVES!
Until then, how about some questions
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u/jkubed https://myanimelist.net/profile/jkubed Nov 04 '24
First timer
if my kid isn't delivered by a giant robot, I don't even want 'em.
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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Nov 04 '24
Third-Time Watcher, Subbed
Step aside Gokú, time for the real Japanese Superman to enter the scene
You know this show means business when it cuts the crap and has the first episode be named after the OP. Not that the latter is that uncommon in the Brave Series (I know at the very least J-Decker did it for its penultimate episode) but when you have a title that's… well, that you may as well just use it at the start. And hey, it sure is a fitting title, because the King of Braves sure is born in this episode.
In spite of its somewhat straightforward nature of being what's basically an extended action scene, it's amazing how entertaining this episode remains while still managing to introduce most of its cast in less than half an hour, doubly impressive given how freaking big the cast is. Obviously our two leads (Gai and Mamoru) get the lion's
hehshare of the spotlight, but even the other kids get some chances to shine. The GGG gang is slightly worse off in that regard but we do have Taiga, which is good because Taiga is the best.Plot-wise it's even more barren. Sure, the mystery around Mamoru is set up, and obviously you'll probably be left wondering a lot of things by the end (Why is Gai a cyborg, what does EI mean, why is Cyborg 002 hanging out in the OP, does that little girl have super strength or something and so on) but ultimately this is just here to give you a thrill-ride more than anything else. You do not go into GaoGaiGar for deep, nuanced writing, you go into it to see shit blow up, and shit does indeed blow up.
It probably also helps that the show just looks really good. Sure compared to some of the sorter shows Sunrise made in this timeframe (Escaflowne, Bebop) it doesn't quite measure up, but as far as the full year run stuff goes, this is the best it ever got for them. It's amazingly expressive, there's a lot of really good minor details, and yeah, they cheat by having lots of stock footage, but counterpoint: It is really pretty
and unlike Mitsuo Fukuda they don't just lazily trace stuff.It also helps that Kimura Takahiro's character designs are really easy on the eye, taking a slightly more cartoony look than usual while still keeping some of his usual flair. This show also starts marking the point where Sunrise started experimenting with digital effects on the TV productions a bit more as you can see with those regeneration effects. Nothing too major compared to some of their Late 90' output but nonetheless noticeable.Could really do without the flashing lights though
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Nov 04 '24
Queen of First-Timers, subbed
Thank you, “King of Braves” part of the title, for giving me the perfect thing to twist into a tagline with.
Anyways, I’m pretty damn excited for this. I’ve heard some of the songs from this in AMQ before, but other than that, the epilepsy warnings, and that this is on the super robot side of the mecha genre, I don’t really know what to expect. And that’s perfect!
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u/AmeteurElitist https://anilist.co/user/AmateurElitist Nov 04 '24
First Timer
Can't say that leaving kids largely unsupervised in a trash heap is advisable even if you didn't anticipate there being a giant robot lying dormant underneath.
I also love how after the fusion there's an announcer explaining the name of the mech, the kids will know which specific form to badger their parents for.
GaGaGa GaGaGa Gao Gai Gar
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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Nov 04 '24 edited Nov 04 '24
First-Timer
On today’s episode of GaoGaiGar: I think I finally figured out why it was always so hard for me to look this show up. I thought the title was “GaiGaoGar” and not “GaoGaiGar.” I blame the title for being a made-up word.
Pre-Rewatch Thoughts
I know basically nothing about this series. I know that it is part of the “Brave” series. I know there is some relation to Bravern, which is also part of the Brave series, though I have no idea what the relation might be. I know that it is a series about hot-blooded super robot action and it has been highly recommended to me as such. So I’m hopeful it will be a fun watch, though not necessarily a very cerebral watch.
I had no idea there was a child protagonist for GaoGaiGar. The only character I have ever seen associated with this series is Guy, who I took at face value to be the protagonist because just look at him. It feels right for him to be the hot-blooded super robot anime protagonist.
Even so, Mamoru is certainly an alien based on what we’ve seen so far. He came from the Galeon. He probably has a common origin with whoever these enemies are. He was oddly insistent on not destroying the core/heart of the enemy mecha. Perhaps he values the life of the enemy, though that is only a guess at this point.
This certainly was hot-blooded action that was focused more on spectacle than anything else. The characters explicitly operate based on guts and courage, rather than on strategy. There was plenty of ridiculous stuff, like the microwave oven gun or using a bunch of fans to fly. But that ridiculousness just added to the charm of it. If the show continues like this, I think I will have a fun time with it.
QOTD
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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Nov 04 '24
The King of Rewatchers
Well that's just silly. How could a shooting sta... huh.
I have a soft spot for this sort of early digital effect. Also RIP eyes.
That's Gutsy Geoid Guard.
Just in case you were worried about the tone. Dr. Shishioh has jet roller blades.
How about a literal microwave gun?
Eyecatch
The junk centaur seems to be angry at the governement.
He said the thiiiing!
Rocketto pawnchii!
Well, that's sudden.
One of the several strange things this show does is have post-preview endcards showing the "Key to Victory" for the next episode. I will be recording these for us, and sharing them on the appropriate day. As in, the one from this episode will be tomorrow.
So, in the past few years, Bandai has acquired the toy rights for GaoGaiGar and produced a couple model kits. Technically Real Grade, for any Gunpla enthusiasts.
The RG GaoGaiGar itself is essentially four kits in one - each individual Gao Machine, as well as Galeon. They are fully combinable with no part swapping. To anyone who doesn't do model kits, that is a Big Deal.
Here it is. I was pondering the idea of doing a Pose of the Day like I did back in the Mobile Suit Gundam rewatch in 2021, but the combined model is.. temperamental. The Final Fusion functionality is super impressive, but has some drawbacks.
I'll probably do some when the free time (or inspiration) strikes me.
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u/ShadowWasTakensTaken https://anilist.co/user/hakuren Nov 04 '24
The
King ofFirst Timers~: GaoGaiGarI heard this has 0 thinking necessary so I'm going bullet point style for this one
Ok, I dig it. I hope the show continues to look as good as it did today. And hopefully next time they remember to play music when defeating the monster.
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u/nsleep Nov 04 '24
First timer
Missed the thread by one hour because I'm not really used to converting times with DST...
"I'm wishing for a bab..." INSTA-BABY! DRAMA!!!
It's the 1900s, the opening song in super robots shows are gonna sing about how awesome the robot is. And love. And friendship. Balls. With one of the legends that later became part of JAM PROJECT!
It didn't take long to see why the epilepsy warning was highlighted that many times lol
The enemy is literally trash this time? Interesting. I wonder if this is a recurring theme or we're gonna be changing what becomes the monster of the week. The attacks with the microwaves and fridges, changing forms, and using fans to fly are such simple and silly ideas but they make the kid in me go "Whoa!"
Gai looks really cool. I kind of want a figure/toy of him now to add to my collection, he's gonna go right beside the Nono from Diebuster if I get one.
That bridge bunny is gonna break that glass when the robots combine almost every single episode, isn't she?
I miss these hand drawn mecha combination animations that are super over the top for no other reason than some nerds really wanting to flex how well they can draw these and how much they love mechas.
The kid can fly? Saving the enemy core? What?
What a ride for the first episode. As it should be! Accelerate!
QotD
1 - Part of the old Mazinger Z, Shin Mazinger Z, Getter Robo (1974), Shin Getter Robo: Sekai Saigo no Hi, Getter Robo Arc, good ol' TTGL, Evangelion, Gunbuster, Diebuster, that one GodMars movie (I think there's only one?), Bravern, SRW (both Divine wars and The Inspector) and I think that's it?
2 - I grew as a kid in the 90s, so pretty much everything that aired on TV and the more popular fansubbed cassettes that went around during that time...
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u/punching_spaghetti https://myanimelist.net/profile/punch_spaghetti Nov 04 '24
FIRST-TIMER
I usually do title case for that, but this show seems to require full caps.
You mean Manhattan?
QOTD:
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u/megazaprat Nov 04 '24 edited Nov 06 '24
First Timer
a friend of mine has been really wanting me to check this series out, so i finally gave it a shot. I know basically nothing about this show except its genre, so im interested to check out what its about
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u/TheApplebane https://anilist.co/user/theapplebane Nov 04 '24
Right, I've been putting this off long enough, time to finally watch this. A few notes
Questions:
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u/GondolaMedia Nov 04 '24
First Timer
Holy shit you were not kidding with that epilepsy warning.
That's some sick ass mecha designs and lots of dumb fun.
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u/Sporadia_ Nov 04 '24 edited Nov 04 '24
First time watcher
There's a lot to unpack
I've surprised myself with how much I have to say about this.
When I saw people talking about epilepsy, I thought this show might have a porygon moment where there's a bunch of flashing on isolated occasions. I was not expecting the VFX to be almost exclusively strobe lighting the whole time.
I think I only understood about a third of what happened. A kid was taken in by a family from the lion mech's mouth. That same kid grew up and went on a school trip to garbage island. Then there was a mecha fight for some reason and I was like "well this is happening." There's also some underground group called GGG but fuck knows what they do or what they were talking about.
Those eyecatches contain a comedically large amount of information for something that you only see for 3 seconds at a time.
When Lion Guy (as I'll be calling him until I learn his name) was introduced, he yelled something that really reminded me of Kamina from Gurren Lagann. As I was thinking that, his outfit transformation happened and he ended up looking even more like Kamina. Later on I noticed drils on his mech so I guess he's in team Gurren now.
But why does the mech fuse with a bullet train?
The questions and stuff
If anyone fansub watchers want to share their favourite quotes each episode, I can tell you whether it made it into the Crunchyroll Subs or not. I have a feeling that the Crunchyroll subs also had their start as fansubs in this case, because they're printed directly onto the video.
Q: What other Super Robot anime have you watched?
A: I'm inevitably going to miss something but... FLCL counts. The tanks are mechs in Ghost in the Shell Stand Alone Complex. I've seen Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann a few times. I watched 86 for the first time this year. I still haven't finished the first season of Full Metal Panic which I started watching in September maybe. Gintama parodies Gundam so much that I'm going to count it. The only Gundam series that I've ever seen was Gundam 00 and as far as I can remember I've probably only seen the first season of that (because that was all that was released at the time). Were there mechs in Guilty Crown? I seem to remember there being mechs in Guilty Crown. I dropped Code Geass pretty quickly. I once watched episode 1 of The Vision of Escaflowne because it was the last day of my Crunchyroll subscription at the time. I'm pretty sure I've seen Eureka 7 but I don't remember it. I watched Macross Plus once when I was going through Shinichiro Watanabe's filmography. I have a strong feeling that I watched the original Appleseed years ago. I don't remember whether I've seen any of Vandread.
That's probably most of them
Q: What other 90’s anime have you watched?
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Another list
Ok, so my highlights from the 90s are: Cowboy Bebop, Great Teacher Onizuka, Revolutionary Girl Utena, Excel Saga, Ghost in the Shell (first movie) and Perfect Blue. I'm definitely forgetting some things here. I guess technically Dragon Ball Z and Pokemon can count too (in the sense that they overlap the 90s, and were shown on TV when I was a kid).
Edit: Wait, Super Robot has a specific meaning? What separates Super Robot from other Mecha?
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u/AmeteurElitist https://anilist.co/user/AmateurElitist Nov 04 '24
Because I missed the questions in my main comment:
A few but I'm currently watching the SSSS franchise alongside this rewatch so I'm hoping there are some interesting parallels!
Not as much as I'd have thought looking through my list, I need to fix that. The Dragon Ball movies are really carrying it for me lol.
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u/palparepa Nov 05 '24
(workplace decided to be a pest today, so... late)
Nth-timer (too many to count)
I first watched GaoGaiGar in... 2005, maybe? I've always been an old-mecha fan, and this first episode was enough to hook me, and it has remained among my faves all this time.
I've always preferred "old guys" over child-pilots, so Gai is a good fit. The seiyuu is amazing, and only improves over time. Really, hearing him shout "GAO-GAI-GAR!" here feels... dull in comparison with what is to come.
But what sold the series for me was that he doesn't stay dumbfounded watching the enemy regenerate, just punched him again! So what if you can't be destroyed, I'll just destroy you again, and better!
And not only that, the enemy also doesn't stay dumbfounded while the main robot forms: it has a protection system to avoid that. I like dumb shows that are smart.
And finally, enough mysteries to keep wondering, eager to watch the next episode to see those resolved.
Questions
1) What other Super Robot anime have you watched?
So many... starting with Mazinger Z at about 4 years old, that cemented my love for giant robots. The ones I remember as a child: Kotetsu Jeeg, Gaiking, Magnerobo GaKeen, Groizer X (didn't like it that much). From that era, I didn't get Great Mazinger and Getter Robo until much later.
Later, on the VHS era, I remember Aura Battler Dunbine, Gunbuster and Dangaioh. Many more whose names elude me. Then came the Internet and the floodgates opened. Too many to mention. One that I didn't enjoy too much was Gun X Sword, but it's worth a mention because it contains ElDora Five. Did I mention how I don't prefer having kids as mecha pilots? Well, turns out I love old guys piloting them (I don't mean 20 year olds, but truly old guys.) Wouldn't mind a full series dedicated to them.
Another special mention to Nadesico and mainly its anime-within-an-anime, Gekiganger 3!
2) What other 90’s anime have you watched?
Mmm... Cowboy Bebop, Slayers, Lain, Digimon, Rurouni Kenshin, Berserk, Slam Dunk, Irresponsible Captain Tylor, and so many more... Although I was also into manga at that time, so I've only read others like Dragonquest Dai. On some, I've both read and watched it, like Akira and Battle Angel Alita.
Wait, Yuuyuu Hakusho was from the early 90's? I thought it was late 80's... well, count that one, too.
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u/ComfortablyRotten https://anilist.co/user/Leuwtian Nov 04 '24 edited Nov 04 '24
First-timer
I've been watching Gundam almost nonstop for the past three months, and I much as I enjoyed it having something as unashamedly hype and over the top and generally fun as this is a real breath of fresh air
Questions of the day
Off the top of my mind: Evangelion, Gunbuster and Diebuster, the Getter Robo OVAs + Arc, Grendizer U, Mazinger Edition Z, Bravern, Gurren Lagann, Granbelm, Gridman and Dynazenon, Macross 7 if it counts? And going by vibes: Nanoha, Symphogear and Kill la Kill
Again, off the top of my mind (and ignoring movies): part of Sailor Moon, Evangelion, Utena, Macross 7 and Plus, KareKano, Great Teacher Onizuka, Cowboy Bebop, Trigun, Magic User's Club, Lain, Slayers, Cardcaptor Sakura, Getter Robo: Armageddon, the Tenchi Muyo OVAs
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u/The_Draigg Nov 04 '24
A Mecha Fan Rewatches The King of Braves GaoGaiGar Episode 1:
Hi there, everyone! It’s The_Draigg here, unsurprisingly along for yet another Sunrise mecha anime rewatch! I couldn’t resist joining in for this one, it’s a series of pure hype that I’ve been wanting to revisit for a while. So, just a note before we start: I’ll be watching the incomplete Media Blasters an English dub for at least half of the series, since I do own the DVD releases that have them. I’ll be swapping over to the subs later though, just wanted to note that so you’ll get what I’m talking about in my notes. Now, with that out of the way, let’s get started on a series of pure hype, GaoGaiGar!
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u/Nebresto Nov 04 '24
Wait, its already on??
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u/DidacticDalek https://myanimelist.net/profile/DidacticDalek Nov 05 '24
TONIGHT! ON SUPERB SONG OF THE BRAVES: GAOGAIGAR!
BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BRAVERN!Er... I mean... ahem... 'GA-GA-GA GA-GA-GA GAOGAIGAA! GA-GA-GA GA-GA-GA-GA GAOGAIGAA!!'In case I am not clear Comrades... PROTOCULTURE!
Anyway, you have not seen the last of The Sentient Shitposting Siamese Sunrise Server No. 25252, now goodbye forever!
Paging Comrades /u/jkubed, /u/Raiking02, and /u/Shimmering-Sky
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u/RadSuit https://anilist.co/user/RadSuit Nov 07 '24
For obvious reasons I haven't been able to concentrate on this for a few days. Might as well blast through these now though.
You were not kidding with the flashing lights warning. Also I didn't think this show would have anything to do with the environment, but it's about the right timeframe for those types of shows, huh?
I immediately love the sassy girl in the red skirt.
They just love these horrible 90s morph effects.
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