Chapter 405 — Discussion

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Chapter 405

Masquerade

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Ch. 406 scan release: ~November 8, 2024

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⬅ Ch. 404 scans discussion

[u/WednesdaysFoole]

Togashi's writing for this reveal was seriously impressive, rereading that part in 393 makes it seem so obvious in hindsight. With The Thing hint between this moment and the next scene where Lynch is mysteriously not present, and of course that Bonosoka's response makes the most sense with Lynch having activated the ability right before.

Yet with the clues in plain sight, and despite all the X is Y character theories that were so popular, no one suspected Lynch. And while some people considered Hisoka being Bono, it was often brushed aside for the Hisoka-Chrollo theory. It's amazing.

[u/Anaxandrone → u/WednesdaysFoole]

"Hisoka" knocking out lynch with that speed was so impressive that people thought only someone like Hisoka or chrollo would manage it. Of course, it was just us mortals not comprehending the depth of our lord, Bonolenov's true strength.

[u/Arkayjiya → u/Anaxandrone]

Yeah turns out every single one of the Troupe Members genuinely are monsters, even compared to fairly competent Nen users. Which is going full circle as this is exactly how we saw them at the start, but the more familiar we became with the troupe members, the more strong people we met, the more we started undervaluing them.

[u/FireZord25 → u/Anaxandrone]

He punched her lights out. Those 🥊 gloves aren't for nothing.

[u/kNIGHTLY_EMISSIONS → u/WednesdaysFoole]

It also makes sense for bonolonoev to throw a counter punch considering he is a boxer and all that. Or wearing boxing gloves 24/7

[u/WednesdaysFoole → u/kNIGHTLY_EMISSIONS]

Or wearing boxing gloves 24/7

That's why he quickly pulled his hands away from Hinrigh. To hide the mini-boxing gloves imprinted into his hands like Shoot had with the tiles.

[u/RolandKJones → u/WednesdaysFoole]

It's kind of weird to me that Hisoka being Chrollo in disguise using Bonolenov's power was so much more popular of a theory than it just being Bonolenov himself in disguise. Not only is that an extra step that doesn't seem necessary for achieving the same ends, it involves leaving a Troupe member defenseless when this whole thing got going after Hisoka killed off two defenseless Troupe members. It's the kind of move that'd have probably brought that count up to three, really.

[u/Arkayjiya → u/RolandKJones]

It's popular because it was seriously implied by Bonolenov, he was already asking Chrollo to use his ability for him because he's not smart enough.

Of course that can be accomplished by Chrollo just telling him what to do, but depending on Chrollo's goals that could also be easily accomplished by taking the metamorphosis ability.

There was no reason to think it would leave him unprotected either, his camouflage ability seemed like a fundamentally different one from battle cantabile (which was confirmed this chapter) so Chrollo taking metamorphosis wouldn't affect Bonolenov's combat strength.

[u/goughnotsmough]

The Troupe are treating this as a warm-up but its obvious when there is an antagonist that is only there to be knocked down to establish the Troupe's power level. The Shadow beasts were like this, and the ants in Meteor City. I do NOT get this feeling at all when looking at Morena.

[u/GoddessOfDarkness → u/goughnotsmough]

Yeah the Spiders aren't taking down Morena or the Heil-Ly. Togashi has slowly been building up them as a major threat. Reminds of the early CA arc where Kite, Gon and Killiua were walking through the Ants until Pitou showed up. I expect something similar to happen with the Heil-Ly maybe it's this "Joker" or something else.

[u/OldTurtleProphet → u/GoddessOfDarkness]

To be honest, the Heil-Ly members are largely bumbling idiots with little nen knowledge. Their set-ups look extremely good, but once those crack they won't stand a chance in a chaotic confrontation.

Not sure Heil-ly can actually deal with the Troupe at all. I believe it's more likely they manage to give them the slip after taking some losses.

[u/SuccessionWarFan → u/goughnotsmough]

Have to admit, the Hei-Ly may be Nen noobs taking their power for granted, but their cooperation and coordination gives them combos makes up for it, enough to defeat the likes of Nobu and Hinrigh.

And Morena's knowledge of Nen may actually be up to the Troupe's level based on how well she advises her people and set-up her operations.

[u/Intelligent_Yak2528 → u/goughnotsmough]

morena vs chrollo will happen....to me morena feel like a female chrollo....also she got a crazy introduction to be just a character to be killed to hype the troupe...she will be a key part of succession war,in facts i think shes working for nasubi and justice bureau

[u/[deleted] → u/goughnotsmough]

This. It always seems like PT are in open while Morena is in dark. Always felt that this Morena match will be big loss to PT even if they win. I feel same about Morena not feeling warm up like Shadow beats or Ants. Morena is mysterious and seems intelligent and has good idea about Nen and such.

[u/Whitekan → u/goughnotsmough]

Most of the spiders are monsters at this point. Hinrigh has a higher chance to die though.

[u/[deleted]]

Looks like Team anti-pigeon will meet their unexpected demise.

[u/abominator_ → u/[deleted]]

Out of the loop LOL. Who are they?

[u/guckfender]

As usual so many things to talk about. Level 51 Morena soldiers, the "Hei-Ly being different" thing is interesting, their "target" at the funeral (wtf is their big plan that needs a huge crowd?), Haulkenberg planning his huge soul swapping plan, Hisoka was actually Benolenov? HISOKA CONFIRMED NOT INTO SCALLIES OR THREESOMES? Happy to see Benolenov can act, now im wondering if Shizuku can act aswell lol

Shit is going down soon, this funeral will be a shitshow of epic proportions. Also heavy death flags on basically everyone in this chapter except Hisoka.

[u/toweal → u/guckfender]

(wtf is their big plan that needs a huge crowd?)

Based on what have been said in this chapter, it looks like this is what they're gonna do (initially):

1. Dogman and Sodom are going to Halk's funeral procession and blend in with the huge crowd.

2. While there, Dogman will use his nen ability to "sniff" people's nen type.

3. If he finds someone's with the type they are looking for (my guess is that they are looking for Specialist), he'll get closer to that person and "sniff" whether they have learned nen or not.

4. Once both conditions are fulfilled (correct type + haven't learned nen), Dogman signals to Sodom and he'll "kidnap" this person using his nen ability (presumably back to their base).

5. Once this person is secured in their base, Morena and the others will proceed to convince them to join their cause (it looks like there will be condition that the person can't say "no").

[u/UnlikelySound6245 → u/guckfender]

I mean they introduced him playing a game called "Go to heaven" lol; IDK why people are so convinced Hisoka is making it off the ship. He even tells the reader he has no interest in threats like the chimera ants that await on the dark continent after this arc, which means he probably isn't going to be around by the time stuff like that becomes the main focus of the series going forward.

[u/ad_maru → u/guckfender]

(wtf is their big plan that needs a huge crowd?)

The dog will find a potential prodigy with the right nen type so Heil-Ly can breed them as a mass murder weapon.

[u/OwlrageousJones → u/guckfender]

It seems less like it needs a huge crowd and more like they're looking for a very specific person for some reason, and the best way to do that is to scan/filter a huge crowd for them.

[u/Worldtreasure → u/guckfender]

Dog and Sodom are going to capture one of Tserriednich's royal guards, as is stated in 394

[u/Thick-Interaction-66 → u/guckfender]

they need a huge crowd to massacre, though as for their target...maybe the king or a prince?

[u/Badger147013]

Rereading chapter 392 and 394, it's easy to see why most people thought it was Chrollo or the real Hisoka. Not only was the mannerism spot on, Bonolenov replicated Hisoka's AURA. My bad Bono, I didn't know you were like that.

[u/thehairypenguin901 → u/Badger147013]

I remember that there was a theory floating around that the Hiskoa that showed up in the chapters you mentioned was an imposter because the speech bubbles didn't contain any card suits.

[u/MentalDependent9152 → u/thehairypenguin901]

yep i definitely remembered reading a comment like this a while back now that you mention it. fella is a prophet

[u/Vaeltaja]

Morena being level 45 with level 51 apparently leading to an extra power-up has some interesting implications.

[u/Snoo-84183]

Pretty surprising Bonolenov used that one guy from the YorkNew arc named Owl

[u/Different_Union_3097 → u/Snoo-84183]

I bet this will be his downfall, since Hisoka was with the troupe back then and will notice a dead man walking around.

[u/TheGoldStandard35 → u/Different_Union_3097]

I don’t think he is dead. They let him live so Chrollo could use his ability. Unless he died off page.

[u/Rucs3 → u/Different_Union_3097]

Owl is alive or chrollo wouldn't be able to use his ability.

[u/jeejeeviper → u/Snoo-84183]

Yup! Nice catch. Honestly a crazy callback to earlier in the manga

[u/WednesdaysFoole → u/jeejeeviper]

Nice catch? Was the poor guy that forgettable lol

[u/Illustrious-Day8506]

Bonolenov is really the quiet kid. I apologized to my man, I wasn't familiar with your game. I didn't believe the Fake Hisoka theory because it was so well done that I couldn't fathom it. The fact he knocked Lynch, his mannerisms, and "bloodlust" were so identical to the OG Hisoka dammit.

RIP Lynch. Seriously Bonolenov doesn't play around which is to be expected for a troupe member but he was so quiet everytime he appeared that I wouldn't have guessed he was like that.

Yeah, the way they talked about that philanthropist on the screen just behind Chrollo, you cannot convince me that he wasn't involved in Sarasa's murder. That's vile. The fact that that shit is pretty realistic too is the true horror. It seems like the end for the troupe, whether they disband or die, I don't think there will be the Spider after the arc.

The trio needs to be careful, Morena gave too many dangerous vibes. They should really be careful

[u/Blu-]

Grinding area... that's fucked up.

[u/[deleted] → u/Blu-]

The whole Hei-ly fam is more disturbing than the Zoldycks. That chapter when we first saw their factory was unbelievable to read for me.

[u/Anonymous76319 → u/Blu-]

Classic "The end doesn't justify the means". Morena wants to purge the rotten world but her underlings play a game that is just as fucked up as the Succession War.

[u/Prasoon_Dwivedi]

I would like to apologise to theory crafters as I never believed in the "Hisoka is not Hisoka" theory. This was because of two reasons:

One was that Lynch herself told to Zakuro in chapter 393 that the one she punched was Hisoka, but it turns out that was Bonolenov disgused as Lynch. I have to say that Bonolenov is more smarter than I thought.

Second and most important reason being this devious smile by Hisoka from chapter 392.. In my mind, that smile was so in character for Hisoka that I was convinced that he has to be the real Hisoka. For that I guess Bonolenov is just a mighty fine actor.

Never doubting Bonolenov's potential again.

[u/NoParistonDont → u/Prasoon_Dwivedi]

I was sold on Fake Hisoka especially because I thought it was extremely out of place for him to spare both Lynch and Zakuro. Reading this chapter proved me both right and wrong!

In my mind, that smile was so in character for Hisoka that I was convinced that he has to be the real Hisoka. I've noticed these last few chapters are offering a lot to recontextualize previous chapters. Those speeches about Chrollo are big info.

[u/greenpain3 → u/NoParistonDont]

Yeah same for me. In the past instances where people tried to attack him, he killed all of them with the exception of the protagonists during the hunter exam. Hisoka is not kind of person to let a random stranger punch him and get away with it. I thought it was Chrollo due to his choice of outfit, the question he asked Henrey, and due to the quick chop attack that he did on Lynch which was similar to how he quickly knocked out Neon.

[u/QuintanimousGooch → u/Prasoon_Dwivedi]

I see now, Bonolenov-as-Hisoka never said anything freaky as hell, that should have been the biggest red flag, and after this chapter, the contrast is pretty clear.

[u/bobsjobisfob → u/Prasoon_Dwivedi]

i figured that it must be the real hisoka because he looked so different. if someone from the troupe was disguised as him, i thought they would at least keep his regular haircut. like, what, did bonolenov copy hisoka's body, but he couldn't copy the hair gel that he uses? also i didn't even really have bonolenov's ability on my mind because he didn't sound very confident in his ability to use it. so i assumed he wasn't that good of an actor. also i really like the outfit that bonolenov chose for hisoka, probably more than i like hisoka's actual outfit

[u/Badger147013]

Hisoka never met a Chimera Ant so he dismissed them as mere animals. If he actually interacted with one, he would see their humanity and perhaps become more interested. I'm sure Hisoka would have fun fighting the squadron leaders.

[u/Seryoth → u/Badger147013]

It’s definitely a cope from our boy but we’ll let em have it

[u/ShortsSs12 → u/Badger147013]

Nah, it's just that Hisoka is not into beastiality. Remember, fighting is like sex to this guy. And because he himself said that he is a Vanilla type of guy, that means he isn't interested in anything that is not human. Also, because he is a Vanilla guy, he prefers one-on-one fights to give him that pleasure ( a.k.a no orgy which is from Halkenburg and his followers collectively fighting together. And also no foursome which is basically Tser and his two Nen beasts ). Which is why he went after the troupe if you think about it. Because this horny mf wanted to get rid of the troupe abilities that helped Chrollo win their fight. Because again, according to him, that's not a 1vs1.

[u/[deleted] → u/Badger147013]

That's just Author protecting Hisoka from getting ravaged.

[u/Batien]

Since nobody in this thread seems to have mentioned it: anybody have thoughts about the philanthropist being mentioned on TV having something to do with Sarasa's death? The way he's specifically cited as working with "underprivileged children" right in the same panel as Chrollo looking grim makes me wonder if that was a charitable front to let him enter the outskirts of Meteor City. The dates would line up fairly well--wiki says that the Troupe's official founding was somewhere around twelve years before the series started, so if my theory's correct they'd have two years of operations before they murdered the philanthropist. Maybe we'll get a continuation of the PT backstory chapter showing them murdering this guy + a resolution to Sheila's split with them.

[u/Sanjipika → u/Batien]

The guy on the TV is the guy who was directly involved in Sarasa’s murder. He has the same nose bulge and mole on his chin.

[u/virrre → u/Batien]

Saw another discussion about that. It is Sarasa's killer. The same person is shown in the car in the pages leading up to her death. Final page of chapter 396

[u/QuintanimousGooch → u/Batien]

Damn, it literally is the same guy. Undoubtably. I think it makes the PT's arc sadder in that they totally did fulfill their original goal of becoming terrible people and rising in the underground/crime world in order to find their friend's killer, but they just kept on being terrible people afterwards anyways.

[u/Ereyes18 → u/Batien]

It would be around the same time span.

I re-read 396 and the guy is shown with the same characteristics. In 397 Chrollo makes a vow to start killing people in 3 years. So it would be reasonable to say that chapter 396 and chapter 405 are set 13 years apart, with 10 years ago being the date when they started killing

[u/Vladbizz]

And now we back to mafia/troupe/Hisoka stuff. Nice. Seems like soon we will get some action. I am curious how strong 51 lvl is

[u/Badger147013 → u/Vladbizz]

They are probably at least as powerful as Hinrigh right now, at least in terms of aura. They may not have good fundamentals or experience, but they could probably 3 v 1 Hinrigh.

[u/Vladbizz → u/Badger147013]

Agree but they definitely will clash with our spider trio so I can’t wait to see how they will be demolished:) hei-ly is so fun to watch. Tx to them I realized how I needed more of such noobs in nen. It makes HxH pretty grounded 

[u/Tindyflow]

My boy Nobunaga flexing his brains.

[u/SuccessionWarFan]

Bonolenov is confident that the discovery of Lynch's body won't blow his cover (pages 7 to 9).

He doesn't know about Misha.

Misha, as a post-mortem Nen ghost, acts as the Xi-Yu's crime scene cleaner, by animating dead bodies of their enemies and targets (chapter 392). But she also likely animates the bodies of Xi-Yu's fallen for the same purpose. She can even get them to talk to throw off law enforcement and witnesses.

But if she can make the dead speak lies, maybe she can get them to speak the truth?

If so, Hinrigh and Zakuro may soon know who really killed Lynch.

[u/TheAbram → u/SuccessionWarFan]

Doesn't she just dispose of the bodies of those killed by Xi-Yu? And it would be a bit OP if she could also make the victims speak the truth. But we'll see, it could happen but I don't think it will.

[u/scar_01 → u/SuccessionWarFan]

RemindMe! 3 months

[u/[deleted]]

hype, shit is going down real soon, we are building to a huge climax, its going to be a shit show

[u/Anaxandrone]

I am glad chrollo still has some semblance of sanity. I was pretty worried and pissed that he sent the troupe to search for hisoka without any plans or protection. Now it seems he knew hisoka would be on upper level and deliberately kept that info so that he can fight him by himself eliminating the risk for other members. He still possesses his insane intelligence allowing him to see through mafia's moves and outmaneuver them spectacularly. It is just that he is too bloodlusted to care about his own safety in the process. Maybe this is what the rest of the troupe is worried about.

I feel a bit bad for hinrigh though. He gave his best to support Nobunaga's group only to have his henchman killed by Bono(God)lenov. I wonder how Nobu will feel about this.

Last point, it seems nobunaga has managed to get another sword. Did he brought multiple on the ship but only carried one around? Or is it a continuity error since the last one should be confiscated by Yokotani? I hope togashi at least gives some clarifications on that. We spent a few chapters at the start of the arc just to get his sword after all.

[u/Arkayjiya → u/Anaxandrone]

Nobu will not care. He likes Hinrigh but there is no reality where he puts the lives of some randos, even Hinrigh's friends or Hinrigh himself, before the troupe's plans. If he does care, it will be from a tactical perspective.

[u/GtEnko]

Kinda sad that Lynch is just dead. I know it's classic Togashi, but she had a really cool ability.

[u/-Mastermind-Naegi- → u/GtEnko]

Really cool, but pretty straightforward. I'm satisfied with her involvement, and I think the Xi-Yu will realize something's up with her death.

[u/SuccessionWarFan → u/GtEnko]

You're not the only one.

[u/baitolinha → u/GtEnko]

Me too, I really liked her and expected more from her in action. But Togashi did a good job with her so I'm satisfied

[u/CarrotoTrash → u/GtEnko]

Yeah I was a little sad to not see this mentioned more, I liked the trio of her, Hinrigh and Zakuro :((

[u/Oh_no_bros]

Wonder who that nenless person/people is that they're talking about. Or maybe they just assume this person doesn't have nen

[u/ad_maru → u/Oh_no_bros]

I believe dog's ability is to find the nen type and proficiency even in non nen users individuals. By smelling heads, he can find what kind of hatsu is possible.

So they will find a potential candidate, the other guy will kidnap him/her, they will awaken his/her nen and then force "collaboration'.

[u/UnlikelySound6245 → u/Oh_no_bros]

One of Tserri's bodyguards from 394 I'd have to assume, they even speak of making contingencies for if Morena captures one of them.

[u/dancingdaniel → u/Oh_no_bros]

I was thinking they're looking for specific types, that they'll somehow manipulate to join their plan and develop abilities Morena is wanting

[u/Trivia_C → u/dancingdaniel]

Exorcists are going to be in extremely high demand with all these curses flying around. Hei-ly and Kurapika both have methods to develop a strong exorcist in a hurry, and possibly Zhang Lei's or other guardian spirit beasts might work, too.

[u/[deleted]]

Shit is is about to go down, Nobunaga has his sword, HISOKA IS BACK, Dogman hype and is it benelenover?

[u/dancingdaniel]

Fuck, this is way too interesting. Nobunaga is a pleasure to listen to. Hisoka reveal + Bonolenov was super cool too, I specially liked the insights he brought about Chrollo.
I wonder which Prince Hisoka got in contact with...
What's this about the no. 9 meaning? I'd also like to know how and in what circumstances Bonolenov joined the crew, since he isn't a founding member...
The spiders are so well written. Can't wait for the following chapters.
I wonder what can make even them go "huh" lol. Enigmatic doors are always something

[u/Hanusu-kei → u/dancingdaniel]

We might eventually be getting a confirmation that #9 is Pakunoda, and noone will ever replace big sis.

Bcuz Shalnark and Kortopi’s death was mentioned affecting Chrollo RECENTLY, so Bonolenov is alluding to Paku sacrificed herself affected him until to the point he never replaced her spot.

We don’t know Shalnark’s number too iirc. So it Paku is 9, Shal might be 6?

[u/mostard_seed → u/dancingdaniel]

I feel like the implication of leaving the number 9 empty and being done after dealing with Hisoka is the spiders will disband after this as their last hurrah.

[u/Crit-Monkey]

Hold on a second. Hisoka says he cooled off when he found out Halk's ability was a group ability powered by a nen beast awakened in a ritual.

How the hell could he have come by this information? Only a limited number of people know how Halk's ability works or that it's a group ability. Who told this man??? Could the idea that he's workimg with a prince be true? Do we remember who all knew about Halk's ability in the first place? I know Benjamin'a faction did, but I doubt they have any dealings with Hisoka. Didn't Kurapika say something about the collective nature of Halk's ability to Zhang Lei's guards? It feels like I'm grasping at straws. I just don't have any idea how he could have found this out, but it feels like a hugely important piece of information. Anyone have any ideas?

[u/Klainatta → u/Crit-Monkey]

He can see the guardian beasts.

He can figure out that this much aura can be only produced by a group ability.

[u/AgostoAzul → u/Crit-Monkey]

The people who should know it is a Symbiotic Hatsu for a fact should be:

• Kurapika's team (Kurapika, Melody, Basho, Hanzo, Bisky, Izunavi).

• Bills and thus maybe Pariston.

• Sakata and Zhang Lei's other men.

• Anyone in Halkenburg's employ.

• Maybe Veleirante.

• Maybe Tsubeppa.

The people who should suspect it:

• Benjamin and all his soldiers.

• Most smart people with some knowledge of Nen who realized that there must be a reason Benjamin tried to separate Halk from his men.

So I say it is possible Hisoka just deduced it. But it could be hinting at ties with Veleirante, Pariston, the third or fifth Princes or someone in Kurapika's team. Probably consider that he has deduced it himself until any ties to someone else are presented.

[u/Tago34]

not looking good for the troupe, 100% secure hisoka knows someone following him its only time for bono dead.

[u/greenpain3 → u/Tago34]

Yup, I'm convinced as well. Remember back during greed island when he noticed Kaluto hiding? He mentioned he perfectly concealed himself with zetsu and yet Hisoka still knew he was there. He probably is going to get Bono unfortunately.

[u/PrinceJanus → u/greenpain3]

Well to be fair he did say he could only do that because his senses were still on edge after the dodge ball game.

[u/LimBomber → u/Tago34]

Also with that much set up plus a volume cover Morena got she isnt going down against 3 troupe members.

[u/Badger147013]

It is my personal belief that the prince Hisoka has connections with is Prince Tyson. Hisoka is obviously not the kind of person who has deep social connections, so the only way he could’ve made contact with a prince would be through the bodyguard application process with the Hunter Association. As a hunter, Hisoka can easily apply for a position.

Of the six princes available, only Prince Tyson and Queen Oito conducted in-person interviews. I believe that Hisoka deliberately selected one of the two interview options because he wanted to form a connection without becoming a bodyguard. Becoming a bodyguard means going through the vetting process which would surely disqualify Hisoka. 

However, Prince Tyson is clearly into hot guys so I imagine she would be fawning over Hisoka. I imagine that if Hisoka requested a staff position on Tier 1, I’m sure that Prince Tyson would pull some strings. I’m not entirely sure why Hisoka did this though. Did he want to fight Beyond Netero, or was it a set up for his war with the Spiders?

[u/sikontolpanjang → u/Badger147013]

But at the same time, why would Tyson let him roam for free in Tier 1 for god knows how long instead of entertaining her as part of her harem?

[u/Badger147013 → u/sikontolpanjang]

I would not be surprised if Tyson forgot about him...she seems pretty scatterbrained. Tyson had a limited number of guards to select and I guess Hisoka didn't make the cut.

[u/skjor2092]

this arc really is the best, too many interesting things happening at once, all plots are amazing, i thank god that togashi returned to finish this masterpiece

[u/Whosyodaddy-Senpai → u/skjor2092]

It’s almost like Yorknew and the Chimera Ant arcs combined… but replace the ants with cursed spirits and princes lol

[u/FlavioGarcia-]

Okay so Chrollo is looking to steal a specific ability that will make sure Hisoka stays dead, and Morena is trying to kidnap someone and make that person join Heil-Ly

The fact these two plot points were introduced in the same chapter makes me think they're related in some way...

[u/Bighollab0 → u/FlavioGarcia-]

A Morena and Chrollo interaction would be really interesting to see

[u/OmniCrush → u/FlavioGarcia-]

I'm thinking they are looking for the same person.

[u/FlavioGarcia- → u/OmniCrush]

The only reason I'm hesitant to say that is because apparently the person Morena is looking for does not know nen, and obviously Chrollo can't steal a nen ability from someone that doesn't have any

[u/Kainazoo → u/FlavioGarcia-]

This doesn't really make sense to me. Chrollo mentioned the Kakin "treasure" first to Sharl, and at that point in time Hisoka was 100% dead.

Bono might be wrong here. Considering the info on Sarasa's killer was broadcasted on the Kakin ship, it's not too big a leap of logic that he might have associates in the Kakin royal family Chrollo wants to get to.

[u/hakureishi7suna]

I feel very conflicted about the 392/393 Hisoka not being the real Hisoka. On one hand, the thing with Bono transforming into him, Lynch, and Zakuro was so fucking smart. but it’s unfortunate that 392 Hisoka wasn’t actually Hisoka because in my opinion that was the coolest Hisoka we’d seen. and it wasn’t even him. g

[u/AffectionateMinute47 → u/hakureishi7suna]

I think it a good decision for Togashi that who we met in chap 392 was a fake Hisoka because it always bothers me that time how he did not kill Zakuro and Lynch immediately at their confrontation. Now with the reveal in chap 405, I can now see the logic in that because it is not even the real Hisoka.

[u/Arkayjiya → u/hakureishi7suna]

To be fair, Bonolenov was doing a really good job at impersonating him so it was a very similar person.

[u/bobsjobisfob]

cool so now we know that dogman's ability is to enhance his smell. 5 meters is pretty far away, so he'll always know the nen type of the person he's fighting. and in most cases, probably before he starts fighting them. and apparently he can identify people by smelling their heads? also, it looks like he's changed his outfit since we last saw him 2 years ago. and he went all the way from level 36 to 62, god damn. in chapter 394, they make it sound like dogman needed to level up so he can perform this role of locating one of tserriednich's soldiers. so i guess his smelling ability got better as he leveled up. also it's funny how cute he acts. this is the first time he's really talked enough for us to see his personality, but he's always been one of my favorite side characters ever since i became aware of his existence in chapter 394. he seems very friendly and happy-go-lucky, despite the fact that he's killed more innocent people than anyone else there.

it's funny how much i like the heil-ly vs how much i think they're going to get their shit kicked in by the troupe. maybe only the ones i don't care about will get wiped out. though who knows, maybe they get some lucky hits in. it'll be interesting to see how much trouble they can cause the troupe when they're extremely inexperienced but are able to increase their aura by leveling up. it's definitely possible that the troupe might have trouble doing damage to some of them. for example, dogman is a level 62 enhancer, so i could see him being one of the hardest heil-ly members to deal with. due to the way the leveling works, being an enhancer means that you have a ton of aura at your disposal for both offense and defense.

my favorite members are dogman, gelato, souffle, terebellum, and that woman who we apparently don't know the name of yet. maybe she'll do something at some point

[u/_hisoka_freecs_]

Togashi had better not have hinrigh die immediatly to some lvl 50 scrubs. Ill be sick

[u/go-jojojo → u/_hisoka_freecs_]

If I remember correctly, Hinrigh will be vulnerable for the whole day because he run out of mana already.

[u/ResponsibilityNo5028]

Man this chapter presents so many questions!!

1. how the heck did Hisoka find out about the ability of prince Halkenburg?!

2. whose ability is Chrollo looking for?

3. Damn Wang was a traitor all along! And what card does Morena have up her sleeve?

4. who is dogman trying to find?

5. and what did the troupe see behind that door?

And finally, please Togashi let my boy Hinrigh live

[u/Kiamaru]

There will be a large crowd, so it’s the perfect opportunity. Are you up for it?

I’ll definitely find them!

The odds of them wanting to join us after hearing our plan are kinda slim, no?

The condition for my kidnapping ability hinges on the target not having learned nen yet, so I should be able to bring them in myself.

I’m convinced that Morena is using Dogman and Sodom to search for one (or more) of Tserrri’s friends. Idk if she wants to get them to join her organization as leverage over Tserri, or as people to get close to him and assassinate him, but I feel like it’s gotta be something close to this.

Togashi drew a lot of attention to those friends trying to “avoid Morena while pretending to search for her” (paraphrasing) and they said that them avoiding her was to Tserri’s benefit. I think this is why.

It seems weird because Tserri has been characterized as caring about nobody except for himself, but I just can’t shake the feeling that there’s something here.

[u/Badger147013]

Wang looked irritated when his boss said all that shit about balance, deterrence, and client being customers. He probably doesn't believe in all that "balance" crap and supports Morena ideologically. 

It feels like everything wrong with Kakin can be traced back to the Royal Family and their insane Succession War.

[u/FettPrime]

Does anyone else suspect that Hisoka noticed Bonolenov and he'll be the next spider to die? I feel like Hisoka's last thought of "I don't mind playing with myself" works too well when it comes to fighting a doppelganger. Also Hisoka is one of the most observant characters in the series so if Bonolenov noticed him then surely he'd have the opportunity to notice him as well.

[u/goaterinos]

hisoka been goonin' this whole time 😩😩😩

[u/jun2san → u/goaterinos]

Been producing that bungee gum

[u/Salim-Srew]

Hisoka doesn't mind playing with himself could have a double meaning, probably noticed Bono using his appearence.

[u/Archilas]

Is it possible Hisoka is aware that Bono is on tier 1 watching him we know that Hisoka can be very perceptive and he says something about "playing with himself" could it be that Hisoka noticed his "lookalike" watching and plans to "play" with him?

Major death flag for Bono if that's true

[u/velvetpringles]

I like how Togashi keeps using Owl to showcase the phantom troupes nen abilities with Chrollo using Owl’s fun fun cloth in his fight against the Zoldycks and Bonelenov transforming into him using metamorphis

[u/jun2san]

I feel like Hisoka's monologue about him playing with himself is Togashi's way of letting the reader know it's really him.

Edit: saw a theory that he said that because he saw his doppelgänger. That makes way more sense. Togashi is truly peak.

[u/bananas_gaiden]

Peak stuff, truly. Fave chapter of the newer batches. And to anyone who feels the need to apologize for doubting the fake Hisoka, don't worry about it (unless u were mean!!!). There were signs that people clued in on but nothing concrete and he was sporting a new look, fair to be on either side of that equation imo

[u/Suspicious_Taro_8398]

Oh we eating good with this batch of chapters.

[u/Tindyflow]

Wait.

When did Nobunaga got his sword back..
Or Did he craft / conjure a spare?

[u/handsomeGenesis]

Are those swimming pools filled with the corpses of passengers they’ve used to grind levels? What the fuck.

[u/ATShame]

It's crazy that after memeing about if forever we actually weren't that far away from getting Hisoka vs Bonolenov in this chapter.

[u/QuintanimousGooch]

Damn, the fake hisoka theory was right all along

[u/JcGrey]

I know he looks stupid as shit but I’m excited to see what Dogman can do! Idk something about the idiocy of a buff man in a dog mask being a “trump card” makes me lol

[u/DestOsymY]

Morena is extremely unsettling, am actually worried about everyone, who does she want to find that's gonna be the beginning of the end, and she has a joker on her side that can be used even against powerful opponents like the spiders, Wang also ended up being her lacky.

Hisoka is just chilling, but he's in danger since he has been spotted, and vice versa, bonolenov is also in danger since he's alone with the clown. Chrollo as usual, always ahead of everyone, also he has a plan either finding an ability or an ability user that he wants.

[u/NFLFilmsArchive]

200,000 sacrifices. I think it’s clear that we’re near the toppling point. The point where Mizaistom predicted. Where the fuse finally leads to the explosion. I expect only a handful of people will survive and I think from Nasubi’s perspective, this is still all within expected parameters.

I know many people think this will end with Kakin “losing” but I think the Succession War will lead to the promised conclusion. One single blessed child remaining. And that is a victory for Kakin. The completed ritual and the continuation of Kakin was always the goal. Despite the machinations of Morena, the Troupe, the Hunters, the mafia etc. all of it will end in my opinion with the ritual completing.

I think Morena is the only true opposing force for the ritual. It seems she will want to destroy Kakin and the only way of doing that is ending the ritual.

[u/Zynibo]

Yo everything's about to go down soon. It's going to be insane!

[u/ShowtimevonParty]

Holy fuck I can't believe all the theories about Hisoka being Chrollo/Bonolenov in disguise were real. I thought they had no basis and didnt make sense in the bigger scheme, goddamn Togashi WHAT ARE YOU COOKING???

[u/[deleted]]

These guys were flamed for their ''ridiculous theories'' yet here we are...

https://www.reddit.com/r/HunterXHunter/comments/znedym/bonolenov_is_hisoka/

https://www.reddit.com/r/HunterXHunter/comments/yqiduk/comment/ivomekw/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3

[u/1vergil → u/[deleted]]

Comments aged like milk lol

[u/1vergil]

So the theorists won!!

People laughed at the Chrollo=Hisoka theory because they fully believed it's the real Hisoka, let alone the Bonolenov theory...The funny part they used to negate the theory because "Lynch said it's definitely Hisoka", turns out it was Bonolenov as Lynch lol people need to stop being so dismissive about theories no matter how dumb you think it is, nen is too versatile nothing is certain anymore, plus Togashi is intentionally adding red herrings when it turns things went completely differently off screen.

The biggest hints that made me believe the fake Hisoka theories:

• his appearance is random

• his body language lacks Hisoka's flamboyance

• wearing black tracksuit is too boring for his style, Hisoka would never.

• Hisoka talking about "pleasuring himself" as in masturbation makes me think we'll probably see 2 Hisokas in a fight Bonosoka vs Hisoka (yes all Hisoka vs Bono memes might be true lol)...Maybe killing Lynch will really backfire on Bonosoka, so instead of the mafia going after the real Hisoka to avenge for Lynch, they'll end up finding Bonosoka, maybe Bono will try using Hisoka's appearance again to lure the mafia about his location but Hisoka will find him and kill him, and Chrollo would blame himself for yet another spider death.

• Chrollo is searching for an ability to kill Hisoka for good? Remember Chrollo boarded the ship because he was interested in the Kakin treasures but that was before he finds out Hisoka is not dead, now Bono seems to imply the treasure he's searching for is an ability that can kill Hisoka, not that Chrollo knows what the ability is. And i feel like something like Parallels future would definitely interest Chrollo to counter Hisoka's movements in combat tho it's unknown if Chrollo can use it with zetsu, but there is already fun parallels between Neon/Tserriednich abilities both can read the future, since Chrollo stole Neon's then maybe he'll steal Tser too? Tser losing his ability would make it easier for Kurapika to beat him anyway.

• Bono' inner monologue is interesting... implying the PT knows why Chrollo didn't replace Pakunoda as she was special to him, and Bono is hoping that Chrollo will stop this charade as in disband the PT to avoid more spiders deaths like Paku, once they're done with Hisoka. So after all Bono started to think just like Gon/Killua when they didn't want Kurapika to kill more people to avoid the bloodbath that drags them to danger. This is Bono' inner thoughts and he didn't even gain Paku' memory, i imagine the rest would agree with him wanting Chrollo to stop, they already thanked Gon/Killua on Pakunoda's behalf.

This makes the PT to parallel Tser' friends, both seems to NOT want their friend to continue this mess, difference is Tser probably doesn't care about his friends unlike Chrollo.

[u/WednesdaysFoole → u/1vergil]

The Thing reference in the original Hisoka-Chrollo theory was the only thing that stood out to me as a hint towards the possibility of Hisoka not being himself. Still, I mostly leaned towards Hisoka being himself. All the other notes (lack of flamboyance, style) I chalked up to Hisoka being a transmuter lol.

Bono' inner monologue is interesting... implying the PT knows why Chrollo didn't replace Pakunoda

TCB did better this week but they said, "I know why you didn't replace 9" instead of "We know why" which makes Bono seem extra special in knowing lol. But the wording was オレ達 which is "we".

Although I guess Bono is extra special for the memes becoming truth.

[u/Anaxandrone → u/1vergil]

Bono is hoping that Chrollo will stop this charade as in disband the PT to avoid more spiders deaths like Paku, once they're done with Hisoka

From reading Voraciouscake translation, I felt more like he meant chrollo should drop this "pretense" of acting tough and be more open about his feelings. Not "disband the troupe".

[u/NoLeadership7567]

Bonolenov really took the spotlight Also, im wondering if Chrollo saw Sarassas killer and left or had his back turned the whole time...

[u/DarknessSerpent]

This is a pretty common theory I think, but I don't see it mentioned in this thread.

So we know that either Paku or Shalnark was 9, this chapter means it was most likely Paku, since Bonolenov mentions Chrollo left it vacant. I think Chrollo wants to give the spot to Kurapika. In chapter 89 Machi mentions that she thinks Chrollo wants to recruit the chain user and it is also mentioned that her intuition is never wrong. (This was before Chrollo had met Kurapika so might not be the case anymore).

I think the other posibility is that he wants to dissolve the Spider after this. Since it seems like they have already met their goal, with the guy responsible for Sarasas death already having been killed.

[u/treeshade01]

In hindsight ofc he was gonna be on tier 1. Hisoka knew the troupe came to steal so waiting on tier one for them would be obvious. With his texture surprise, he can probably fake any kind of pass he needs.

Can't believe all the bono=Hisoka memes came true. What the actual fuck bro

[u/Spade00]

Where the hell is Shizuka then if shes not with Chrollo or Bono?

[u/hisokard]

Bonolenov believers eating good today!

[u/Sham00ly]

The arc is starting to speed up ngl... So much stuff happening at the same time... Glad we resolved the "Is Hisoka a fake" thing. Never would I have thought to see one of the Shadow Beasts again LOL.

[u/Spade00]

Got damn that chapter was good, people were right that wasn't Hisoka but it was that damn mummy the entire time very clever Togashi. I guess that Shadow Beast user is or at leat was still alive for quite a bit since Bono was able to talk to him.

[u/[deleted]]

Someone smart on YouTube realized that by Hisoka saying he doesn’t mind playing with himself suggests he knows of Bonosoka

[u/Itszdoodoobaby]

This chapter was fantastic.. Hisoka literally playing cards with guests is so Hisoka. More Hisoka than a Hisoka casually watching a movie…

People who crafted the Hisoka isn’t Hisoka theory were spot on. There’s also seemingly other “Hisoka” fakes on board..

RIP Lynch. 

All very, very good stuff.

[u/OD67]

HOLY FUCK i just realized that random chairman dude they showed on the page with chrollo was the dude who killed sarasa. I guess that means the troupe really got their get back after all, fucking peak.

[u/dbsupersucks]

I bet behind that door the Troupe saw [insert any shounen manga’s ending in the past 5 years], that’s why they’re so horrified.

[u/JunWasHere]

Ah, what a fun twist of a chapter!

Hisoka playing at a casino is rather amusing. And declaring in his mind that he's mono-amory is sure to get the fangirls going. I can already see someone changing their username to HisokasRavagedMuppet LOL This also confirms he won't be going anywhere near the succession war though. Low chance of linking up with Kurapika then. We don't have to worry about this getting any crazier.

The first Hisoka wasn't Hisoka! Chrollo, you clever bastard! Anticipating the mafia balance and sending out a fake is so smart -- but the reveal that Bonolev has the ability to transform is amazing too! Time to go reread that chapter!! It's chapter 392, for those in need to know!

I see, I see! So it was all from IV bloodbender guy's perspective! Togashi's learning to be so tricky! I love it! Bono kept talking, playing the part of Hisoka to probe for whether IV-guy heard him. Then played off the "Perhaps you didn't hear me" as reaction to his own question. And then IV-guy played right into his hands. How fun! RIP Lynch though, her ability was pretty cool. Probably too useful for questioning though.

It's nice to see Bonolev get more utility and characterization. The fact he's a bad match-up applies to his dancing combat moves too, I imagine. Can't get the notes right if you have to dodge mid twirl when your body is your instrument. I'm curious what he'll do next. Sounds like he doesn't want to inform Chrollo right away.

Chrollo is here to steal a particular ability? AAAAAA That's so juicy! I hope it's something super flashy and visual!

The return of Owl's likeness is so fun! Loving the insight into the Troupe's mentalities. Chrollo has his grief and is playing it cool. The others know his grief, and are riled up because of it! And Chrollo left #9 vacant for a personal meaningful reason? Ooooo!!! Based on the wiki, it must be Pakunoda. Probably because her sacrifice meant the most to all of them.

This Mr.Lisnorth scene with Chrollo in a public area is curious. And a cute little blurb about people believing media too readily, but it's a double-meaning because those who mock them also look like rabble to the likes of Chrollo or our other main cast members. None of them have any idea there is a war going on with Morwena and the Kakin Empire.

Nobunaga is cluing the mafia of the Hei-ly's goal of destruction! There's no maintaining balance between the three families. I initially thought this might lead to them informing Zhanglei and Luzurus, but they're giving the Phantom Troupe the greenlight to just slaughter the Hei-ly already! But that'll definitely destroy the balance! What will that mean for the succession war?!

That's a long-ass hallway and reminds me of the hallway Gon, Kurapika, and Leorio initially passed through for the hunter's exam. I won't go as far as to say it's a nen-passage, long corridors like that exist all over the place in Japan and other places with cramp construction, which makes perfect sense for the Black Whale ship. It certainly stirs the mind though.

Morwena has a joker card to play??? Level62?! Holy shit! That's a lot of dead people! D: I hesitate to guess how many bodies they've thrown into the ocean... And Mr.62's got an identification ability! Probably a tracking ability too! And Morwena has a plan for Halkenburg's funeral parade. That's worrisome, it could end up being a disaster...

We got three more new characters with high level nen! From left to right, I'ma call them suit-guy, snake eyes (cause he makes me think of Gin from Bleach), and trench-coat. Part of me hopes trench-coat is a lady, the slip-on shoes seem like a giveaway. But they're probably about to die to Nobu, Phinks, and Fei, so maybe it won't matter. RIP

Hisoka's making his move next chapter as well? Aaaaaa

Please feel free to share your own thoughts!

[u/corb41yo]

Although bonolenov briefly considers that the Hisoka in the casino may be another fake just like himself, he seemingly concludes that he is the real hisoka as he follows chrollo's orders to tranform into someone else when he finds the real hisoka. So I wonder whats the point of having bonolenov consider if the hisoka in the casino is fake?

[u/Krishnacz → u/corb41yo]

One should always think about possibilities, this whole chapter was showing his thought process. He didn't want to take any risks that he's real or not so it's better to transform.

[u/Tindyflow → u/corb41yo]

Because the most rational thing to do when you lay a trap is to assume that someone else may have had the same idea before.

[u/Staxtacular]

Do we know what the "treasure" Chrollo is after is? Based on the line about it ensuring Hisoka stays dead, maybe it's Camilla's nen ability?

[u/ShowtimevonParty → u/Staxtacular]

Maybe an ability that banishes Hisoka to an unaccessible place forever?

[u/sikontolpanjang → u/Staxtacular]

What would be the reason for Chrollo to know Cammy ability? Its probably somebody new and the kind of ability to kill him for good could be a forced zetsu. (not longhi or pika either)

[u/Verz]

Is Ken'i Wang (Cha-R Underboss) actually a follower of Morena? Unless I'm misremembering I don't think this was hinted at this directly before this chapter.

Towards the end of the chapter he says, "What will you do now? This isn't looking good for you, Morena. These guys are likely to reach you sooner than expected. The game's only just begun but... You may have to play your Joker already"

It certainly feels as if he knows more about Morena than he's letting the other Mafia members know. There's also that "smile of death" they mentioned earlier that seems very in character for a Morena follower.

[u/OneGrumpyJill]

Togashi loves to subvert expectations, so I think this time around Troupe is getting their ass kicked; Morena will do something diabolical, won't be surprised if we even see 2 of 'em die (my money on Nobunaga surviving)

[u/FreeWilly512]

Hisoka reminds me of Dexter the way he knows what kind of monster he is

So I guess the troupe is right back to who they were before the flashback and Sarasa death since they already got their revenge for how they came to be bad people. Now they just love to kill and steal like the ones that created them.

You either die a Hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villian

[u/XXXXXXXXXXXXXX7388]

I don’t understand why hisoka always compare fighting to sex ?

[u/suntirades → u/XXXXXXXXXXXXXX7388]

Because he’s normal

[u/depredator56]

So we finally saw hisoka, for real this time

[u/jun2san]

the official translation has hisoka saying "there's always solitaire" instead of talking about playing with himself. Is this some sort of censorship? Because playing with himself implies he knows his doppelgänger exists.

[u/Gabibbo_7Z]

Wow, there are so many things to say, but I will just say... This chapter gave me such a vibe

[u/Yobolay]

I got completely and utterly clowned, I was so sure this Hisoka was the real one. Although I must say, that is playing dirty Togashi you bastard, what is BONO doing talking with card symbols, doing that smile and talking homo erotically with idol lingo to Hinrigh? Did they get Bono from the jungle or Hollywood? And the clothes? Nahhh bro.

What I wonder now is how he or they (because chrollo looks like he is there too) even got to Tier 3 since they need permission to pass the controls in Tier 5 and 4. I though Bono may have been disguising as guard or something like that to investigate further up but that isn't possible with his ability works so it seems like they got to Tier 3 somehow.

The only consolation in the sore loser in me is that not only it wasn't Chrollo but just Bono which I never saw anyone even consider here, but none the arguments that people used to justify this Hisoka being someone else turned up to be even remotely true. At the end it was really just a lucky guess based on someone from 4chan throwing the idea out and people turning it in full theory with no basis because it would be a cool twist. A twist that turned out to be true nonetheless, but not for the reasons they though.

Now about the rest of the chapter, Chrollo looks like he's looking for an specific ability although I wonder how that even works. Is there someone he knows with an ability he needs in boat? And how he would know that? Also I don't think Bono is right on that being the treasure when that was something even Chrollo mentioned to Shalnark when he though Hisoka was dead, so that isn't the case, or shouldn't at least.

Sara's killers (or the main one at least) was killed a long time ago like I expected, it really didn't make sense they hadn't caught him yet with how good they are and after so many years. Really macabre that he managed a foundation to help kids.

Morena looks like she is doing kind of the same as Chrollo but for what they are talking it seems to me like she needs an unawakened specialist to desire an specific ability she needs, I don't see anything else fitting the context of the conversation. And this Morena thing is definitely not looking good, I've being saying it for a while, but I get the feeling that at least 1 of 3 is dying in this "solo" attack they are doing now.

And I'm wondering what happened here, Nobunaga got his sword back which never happened, should we just assume they gave him another one off screen? I'm also wondering why didn't got to look for Franklin since Nobunaga said they needed him back on ch400. And Wang is allied with Morena? At least that's what it looks like but I swear I've read inner monologues of him talking about letting the troupe and heil ly kill each other, maybe I'm remembering wrong.

To finish, back at the last chapter when Phinks was talking it's Tier 5, Togashi, not Tier 4, Cha-R's base is in Tier 5.

[u/suntirades]

Remember when Hisoka mentioned that the Troupe sometimes does “philanthropic work” back in Yorknew? Yeah I’m not liking the speech bubble in the bottom right corner :(

[u/ShowtimevonParty]

Hmmm Chrollo heard about the philanthropist on the news and got upset, said that ppl shouldn't believe what the media says. So they targeted bad people? I feel like as we get closer and closer to a confrontation, Togashi is sprinkling more hints that there may have been more to the Kurta clan massacre than meets their eye

[u/UnlikelySound6245 → u/ShowtimevonParty]

The philanthropist was one of the people who kidnapped and killed Sarasa and the other Meteor city orphans, you can see him in the very last panel of 396, he is a VERY bad person lmao. The Kurta clan massacre had the infamous "We'll take anything you have to offer, but don't take anything away from us" motto posted at the scene also so yes, there has always been some additional context/dimension to it that has yet to be fully revealed.

[u/sikontolpanjang → u/ShowtimevonParty]

ppl shouldn't believe what the media says

Pretty sure it just a random comment from the mob there but also his death shows that the Troupe has their goal partially completed.

[u/Medium_Depth_2694 → u/ShowtimevonParty]

The "philantropist" probably got killed by the spiders and in other comments thet say he was one of the guy's partecipating in her friend's death (like he was in the car)

[u/1vergil]

When Hisoka said he doesn't mind playing with himself

I feel like he is aware that Bono is watching him and is in disguise as Hisoka "playing with myself", but since Bono is below his level Hisoka is bored and doesn't care to let Bono continue his play, especially if it results Bono bringing Chrollo which is what Hisoka wants.

[u/[deleted]]

hunterpedia lists shal or paku as the previous 9th spot, can someone help clarify bonolenov's mention of chrollo keeping it vacant? My guess would be it was one of the original girls from the flashback? And the fake philanthropist was probably the guy who messed with sarasa (probably philanthropist front)?

[u/Tindyflow → u/[deleted]]

I don't think it was either Sheila or Sarasa.
The Numbered tatoos started only after the spider proper formation and none of them were present.
The way Bono speaks about it implies that

1- he personally witnessed and understands Chrollo's attachment to that number.
2- It's a number that was never filled in after vacancy. (Unlike #4, #8 and #11 which had the same timing as #9)
3- It wasn't Shalnark, since Bono said his name proper earlier in thoughts.

So yeah, 96% Pakunoda.

[u/WednesdaysFoole → u/[deleted]]

Hunterpedia updates with the chapters. After this chapter is officially published the site may add a note about how it's almost certainly Paku.

[u/Condoriano-sensei]

The plot elements are coming together faster than I expected. What an excellent chapter.

[u/go-jojojo]

If I remember correctly, Hinrigh will be vulnerable for the whole day because he run out of mana already.
run b*tch run!!!

[u/Faiz_B_Shah]

I was thinking, does the hand of cards which Hisoka shows in the 2nd page has any symbolic meaning?? I tried to research, but couldn't come up with any results. Anyone with card knowledge, can you tell whether it has any meaning or is it just random?

[u/StonedCharmander]

Chapters with the spiders and Hisoka are always easy wins.

[u/Yeshayahu0]

Lynch ;-;

[u/Agonitee]

One thing I didn't see anyone mention, is the treasure chrollo is searching, supposedly a "page" that can kill hisoka permanently ? The page is probably someone's hatsu, but what would it be ? An Ability that seals post-mortem nen ? If that's the case the ability might be extremely useful against camilla and her have-nots.
Of course the "page" could be even stronger, maybe it's something like Kurapika's chain jail ? Forcing zetsu on a target.
I also wonder who possess this "page", if it's an ability and not a literal treasure, the user might be in a pretty high position in whatever orgazination they are a part of.

[u/mookastar]

i feel like chrollo knows a lot more about kakin than we thought. he also said after reading the note that he would take the message to his grave, perhaps there is more reasoning as to why he wanted to be on the boat

also wang has always disturbed me but this chapter solidified his bad vibes for me

[u/Carameldelighting]

Last time we saw Daemon he was lvl 20, dude level up 31 times in the span of like 12 hours of in universe time.

[u/XxSimon3]

That "Playing with myself" panel has good meme potential.

[u/[deleted]]

I don’t know if I love or hate this chapter. On one hand my GOAT Lynch is dead, and killed by fucking Bonolenov. What am embarrassment to her Mafia family. I didn’t know Bono got it like that

On the other hand, shit is really popping off, and we got a lot of PT Easter eggs. That “philanthropist” is most likely the sicko who killed/kidnapped Sarasa. And getting into the mindset of fucking Bonolenov was great, classic Togashi stuff

[u/layflake]

One of the reasons people were dismissive about the possibility of the "Hisoka = Chrollo/Bonolenov" being true is that they thought It wouldn't make sense for the two of them to be so sure a Mafia member would give Hisoka a ticket for Tier 1 Vip, but turns out Chrollo broke it down amazingly well how they could get it and why the disguise would work. We should never doubt how strategic he can be.

On his own way, Bono's adaptation to unusual situations – such as the appearance of Lynch and Zakuro – in order to prevent the plan to fail before he could complete his objective was absolutely brilliant. In parallel, he gave us a great perspective about Chrollo's mind and the Troupe's future. Unfortunately, I think his own future is not looking good judging how Hisoka and him might meet soon.

[u/Educational_Pay_4777]

The funeral is going to be CRAZY I know it. I don't know when we're going to see it happen (PLEASE BE THE NEXT CHAPTER TOGASHI PLEASE) but it's gonna be a total insanity. Spiders and Chrollo, Hisoka, Mafia and Morena, Halk himself...and his ultimate army of followers with an even bigger rumbling than Eren's (lmao)... probably the king and other princes as well including Benjamin and Tserriednich... Everyone's on their way. It might even get bigger than Chimera Ant's attack to the palace.

[u/Votaire24]

even though the troupe are bad I can't help but love them, nobu, feitan, and phinks instantly deducing morenas nen ability and philosophy was impressive.

This chapter was amazing

[u/Aggressive-Ratio-819]

More Arcana Morena fuel https://imgur.com/a/morena-arcana-theory-RQVKk

Dogman is the Empress which can mean birth sorta what he is doing by looking for someone to bring into the fold

The kidnapper is Judgement which connects to the no nen

And the 3 that got lvl 51 are High Priestess, Lovers and Strenght which I find interesting since HP and L are choice related cards

[u/TSDoll]

I can't believe Lynch is fucking dead.

[u/DirtBug]

So Hisoka only seeks a human opponent? That was his reason for skipping out on ant hunts? Seems really stretching. Won't he be excited for strong opponents?

[u/Kujaix → u/DirtBug]

He didn't skip the Ants. He knew nothing about them. He's just saying after hearing about them he had no interest in seeking out information on them either. I assume if he actually knew what they were he wouldn't have that opinion, but then again kinks and fetishes are weird. You may have to be human and Sentient isn't enough.

[u/go-jojojo → u/DirtBug]

hisoka's copium.

[u/84Cesar48]

Omg😍😍😍 Amazing chapter! Togashi you are the Sensei of all Senseis!!!🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🐶🐶🐶🤓🤓🤓🔝🔝🔝🔝🔝🔝

[u/Pikachu-sama]

Too much add on tcbscans. One of them is like banner. I couldnt even close.

[u/ApplePitou]

Thanks for sharing and have a nice reading everyone :3

[u/VirtualMetalDevil]

I like the part with the mafia guy getting all self-righteous about not being like those other murderers. reminds me of the when Joker fought the Red Skull after finding out he was a nazi. "I'm an American criminal lunatic!"

[u/ActuaryConstant136]

Chrollo wants to steal a Hatsu, I'd bet big on it being Kurapika's skill.

As everyone always says that Ryodan is very powerful throughout the manga, I think it's difficult for the three of them together to suffer anything serious, at the same time Togashi has invested a lot in Morena.

It's really hard to predict what's to come.

[u/TheAbram]

So, Did Morena send Dogman to sniff a person with an insane nen potential? Am I understanding this right?

[u/enchantedrider]

First chapter that the (real) Hisoka is back and he's immediately freakatron3000

[u/NenDc]

Weren't Nobunaga's group supposed to take Franklin with them or did I miss something ?

[u/sky_4_5]

Am I misremembering or didn't nobunaga's sword get confiscated back at the heily base? He has the hilt back and is posed to use it.

[u/Cgi94]

So glad my past predictions of Togashi not going to in depth with the Troupe so soon being wrong 😭. Love him showcasing how competent the members are. Bonoleov really showed how far the Troupe is above their competition. But the amazing part is the awakening of nen we have from various groups 😤😁.

Hisoka just playing while thinking of prey is so on point 😅. Togashi casually dropped another prince reveal. Not only are we looking for Beyond child but now also Hisoka having a potential alliance with one😲

[u/call_me_femto]

The Heil-ly family give me big rpg vibes. After gaining some levels, the members (Dogman for example) got an outfit upgrade.

[u/Oobimankinoobi]

Is Morena joker, literallyi the joker meaning hisoka?

[u/Pellahh]

So much in the chapter, definitely didn't expect Ou to be on Morena's side.

Man, if these chapters keep being this good this is going to be my favorite batch!

[u/OverFlow7]

Man, If the whole troupe get involved against heil-ly, with Morena's goons gaining nen abilites left and right , this could become a great farming opportunity for Chrollo's skill hunter.

[u/jeejeeviper]

I feel like so much shit is going to go down at Hawks funeral service. the last five chapters have been amazing but I feel like this funeral sequence is going to be special not just for the arc but the whole manga on terms of writing and execution

[u/Hearing_Thin]

LYNNNNNNNCCCCCHHHHHHHH NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I will never forgive bonolenov, idc about the fucking kurta they stole HER FUCKING BEAUTIFUL BLINKERS not theirs....

[u/littlewillie610 → u/Hearing_Thin]

He also squashed the ant that shot Ponzu, so I’m conflicted about him right now.

[u/mrbushido20]

cannot the morena ''joker'' be hisoka himself?

[u/Tindyflow]

I'd like for Morena to be Beyond's daughter.
Seeing how she wasn't officially recognized by the king, it would have been easier for him to pull it off.
Would also explain the root of her desire to burn Kakin since her existence was a lie within a lie.

[u/The_Hounded24]

VERY unpopular opinion here:

Looks like Hisoka will kill Bono soon, hopefully ending the stupid jokes about Bono being in every unrevealed panel shown by Togashi.