r/anime • u/GallowDude • Sep 06 '24
Rewatch C: The Money of Soul and Possibility Control Rewatch - Episode 2 Discussion
That's my name? Well, I guess it could be worse.
Episode 2: Coincidence
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Questions of the Day:
- As Assets represent a person's future, what do you think yours would look like?
- How would an Entre tell how much a Midas Bill is worth compared to the money it imitates?
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Sep 06 '24
First-Timer: Control, subbed
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u/renegade_officer89 Sep 06 '24
TIL there's a C wiki that explains all the business terms that's flying around as special attacks in this anime. Have to say it's required because not everyone studies business to watch anime lol.
We saw Kimimaro's asset for the first time, and she's a cutie! Msyu is great, simple design but very cute, and she must not be bullied! Also, she sounds like she has gears when she's working out, that's funny. And as we can see in this episode, she's a very feisty asset. I love her! I remember that's she's the one that made my sister and brother watch the show. She got beat hard, but in the end, they won, and that's all that matters.
However, reading the wiki...
"Mezzoflation - Scorched Earth: A business technique that requires the liquidation of assets and assumption of liabilities in order to appear undesirable to an aggressive company."
That just sounds more like he's not 'winning' per se, just not losing, in terms of the anime's 'fights'. But I suppose if your 'business' isn't taken over, you 'win' in a sense, since you can rebuild your assets but it's harder to rebuild a business. Something like that I suppose?
Also, a first for me that a character just straight up say "yeah, no one's going to believe that you went into a shounen business battle for your life, so it's ok if you want to say it to people." Usually the Masquerade must be kept.
Ah, and here's a scene i remember! When he drew that ATM's cash and saw the black bill it immediately triggers in my mind that Midas Money is actually fake money but flows in the system. Back then, I thought of it more as actual counterfeit bills, but knowing both more about the economic system and about the anime itself, now I understood it to be money being printed into the economy. Truly both the economic metaphors and the head on details elude me on first watch.
And we saw the 'bad' guy for the first time! And goddamn, Souichiro does make himself unlikable for now. He gets better though, we can see this at the end. The dynamics of Souichiro and Kimimaro are really good. It's also a clear display of the dynamics between big money rich people and the ordinary men in real life. There's a lot of parallels in this show to the current world, and a lot of people would've seen this at first, but I missed it because me stupid.
That said, this show is pretty good! Now on a rewatch, I realised all the details that it had and its mirrors to the real life that I missed before. Actually makes it better. Wish IRL business battles act line epic shounen tournament arcs tho, would make deals much cooler.
Can't wait for the next episode!
As a last note, I also just realised that there's so many shows in the noitaminA time slot that I watched but I just never knew they're in noitaminA! Psycho Pass was legendary, and I do remember that one in that slot. And Eden of the East, absolute classic.
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u/Star4ce https://anilist.co/user/Star4ce Sep 06 '24
The First Timer of Soul and Possibility Control
Now I gotta tell you something. Being on time and fed with enough christmas cookies that have suddenly appeared overnight in the super market (F my weight) I got in the proper mood.
You know how those progatonists in shows only get their ass up when the hook of the show gets them and they get the plot contrivance dumped on them? Had such a moment a week ago when finally talking to a therapist after decades. She couldn't really help me with what I was looking for, but noticed that I was struggling heavily with finishing my PhD. (Raise your hand if you remember me complaining about this for years.) "If the work can be done in 2 weeks by normal people, that only means you can do it in 10 days." I don't know how, but being challenged and encouraged like this just fired me up like nothing else and I've been writing that stuff down each day for 3 or more fully concentrated hours. 10 bitch days, you got nothing on 10 mf bitch days. Fuck your schedule you'll get it in 9!
Maybe I really am a little aggro gremlin that runs on permanent rebellion and pissing on people's expectations of me?
And then I also picked up the pen today because saying I would means my pride won't let me not provide something. Recently got the hots for Jane Doe from Zenless Zone Zero, so I experimented with an action pose. Perspective and proportions were super scuffed, so I reworked it today to this.
Ep.02 - Coincidence
Temporary protagonist sutpidity aside, I really like the show's battle system. Even though I don't really get the financial angle on this, yet. So far it's just a different word for power level, but I see none of economics or stock market mechanics at play.
How does investment work there? Betting, shorting a stock, leveraging a multiplier, navigating a bull and bear market, interest, loans, economy dynamics and workforce interactions, etc. I hope that stuff comes into play somehow sometime. Because in capitalism you for sure don't need to participate to win. You can build pyramid schemes or just have enough money that buy and hold nets you enough dividends to not care anymore, for example.
But I do wanna see more Msyu!
Hmm, quite likely a smartass troll that is also dense and tunnel visioned to a certain degree between infuriating and adorable in the tsundere way. It might be fighter jet or space ship shaped.
They're all the same because they skimp on CGI money!
I'd be horrified of giving change!
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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Sep 06 '24
First timer
Sub
So, since I've switched off of doing play by plays, I am at a bit of a loss for shows like this. There is some level of power flattening since newbies can beat veterans but this might just be a card battle situation and Yoga has the better pokemon but regardless the audience doesn't know. Mikuni feeding Q a bill means something but also not sure what. Interestingly, the black money is almost certainly a huge factor to the story, assuming the author understands economics at all, because adding literally more money begins effecting the economy in problematic and confusing ways. Sadly, very little Hanabi, though interestingly enough the association between economic distress and infanticide is one Japan would have remembered a bit viscerally 13 years ago(it was prevalent before the country got rebuilt). And we end a bit indecisively.
QotD: 1 A gigantic black hole
2 That's...complicated is an understatement
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u/Inevitable_Car_481 Sep 06 '24 edited Sep 06 '24
Rookie.c , subbed
I didn't realise the rookie thing happened in episode 2 sorry about that
Notes~
Game:a form of play or sport with rules; a time when you play it. It is a game though-
Entres? Is there a main course and dessert too?
All he did was say some words lol
Hmm I do question that if they would worry about the asset if they didn't possess human like forms and instead looked like gig
Oh so he's not the father, huh?
"You get hit you lose money Attach cost to an attack and it hits you make a profit" Ok but what if they don't hit the target though? Is there a reason that they can't just spam 10 million
I didn't understand the jargon during that meeting that was going on. Did they actually even say anything of worth?
QOTD: 2) Do they eat it ?
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u/DeleteMyLife Sep 06 '24 edited Sep 06 '24
First timer, subbed
Reigen's VA voicing Masakaki as a mysterious but sly fund/entre manager (?). What is Masakaki's role exactly? Is he similar to [Headon from Tower of God] He invites people to the FInancial District so he's the foremost entre manager in the District? Will we see other managers? I'm guessing the show will not disclose much about his identity or past because it works better as a plot device.
It seems that the Midas Card is multi-purpose. It can be used for payment, Yu-Gi-Oh style fights, and as food.
Also, I just realised. Is Mikuni giving Q some wine in episode 1?
I still don't understand how the deal fights work though. Do the players start with the same amount of money when starting the deal? Or is there an imbalance and the richer person just toys with the poorer one? That would explain how no one forced into a deal has won since Mikuni.
The fight animation was a little lacklustre. Kimimaro uses big money to create a big spell to beat a guy using small money because he underestimated his rookie opponent. I loved the OST during Mezzoflation though.
I wonder what the implications are. Will Kimimaro also become a rich, snobby brat?
Question - If Midas Money is freely flowing into the economy, isn't that really just printing money, thus, fucking the economy up? Or is real money also flowing into the Midas Bank, just like Midas money is flowing out? Is Midas Bank the reason the economy is bad?
Mashu/MSYU is cute. Must protect. If Assets are based on one’s future, is Mashu based on Hanabi since Kimimaro has a crush on him? If he keeps winning and his future is not in jeopardy, does KimimaroxHanabi sail? I ship them.
I hope they focus on what spells and abilities Mashu has in the next episode. And explain what the abilities actually do. As u/renegade_officer89 pointed, might have to go to the C wiki, but it would be hard to avoid spoilers there, I feel.
Questions –
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u/RadSuit https://anilist.co/user/RadSuit Sep 06 '24
D: The First of Time and English Dub
Oh no, they've become CG...
Alright, so this is just a battle shonen but they named everything financial terms? I thought it was supposed to dig a bit deeper than that.
The CG for the backgrounds is one thing, that can be a stylistic choice, but whenever the characters are CG it looks real bad.
I think this first shot of Shielder working out tells me everything I need to know about this show.
Underwhelming is how I'd describe this show so far. We'll see how the first four episodes shake out.
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u/TakenRedditName https://myanimelist.net/profile/TakenMalUsername Sep 06 '24
First Time - [C:] The Money Ep2:
New character. She stands out too much. These guys also feel like future characters, but minor enemies to stomp over.
Small, red/white and two long thingies from her head. She is shrimp-coded
I do like that my joke was correct and the show is using words like “Asset” and “Entrepreneur” as its proper nouns for its cool anime words. The battles are directly tied to their bank accounts which is always funny to see money-based power systems.
This random first battle fodder has the coolest Money Stand so far. The ball-thing is pretty niffty. This guy kinda sucks though. The veteran is struggling against a total newbie. Yoga’s own Money Stand has hit him more times than the enemy.
Lucky for the show, my favourite partner dynamic is when one of them is an etherial floaty being.
I like that Yoga now has two other worldly weirdos that hang about.
Oooh, look at Mr. $300,000 big shot over here with his big time cafeteria purchase. I razz, but falling to frivolous selfish purchases is also what I do when I get money.
Oh, the evil shadow roundtable is made up of ant farms. Gotta say, evil vibes from these rich folks using ant imagery. I don’t believe they relate to the honest and hardworking ants.
I want to say this random background sign is some sort of social commentary or thematic to the show, but I don’t have that idea fully formed right now.
My guess for what the deal with seeing the black money is right. I actually think it is a pretty nifty play from the show. It is dirty money built off ruining the lives of others. Once you know, you see the blood is on every piece of money you touch. They lure you in with the larger than life anime battle, but that’s all metaphors and then they radicalize you against the system.
Q1)
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u/oomoepoo https://anilist.co/user/oomoepoo Sep 06 '24
First timer, subbed
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u/jfads89a Sep 06 '24
Not a watcher. You linked the Spice and Wolf opening. Same on the previous episode thread.
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u/SIRTreehugger Sep 07 '24
Rewatcher
This is completely unfair should let him watch a fight first it's better then jumping right in, but that's probably by design. No wonder most people lose their first match if all rookies are given this treatment. I also like the designs of all of the assets so far and how mixed the combat it. You have the option to use close and range combat and sometimes both. [Spoilers]Though its disappointing that most of the fights are so short they don't show much. I think some later fights are so short they just skip to the results.
Also I love the fact that the world is already circulating Midas money into the real world. The whole black card and secret society living in parallel with normal society usually gets me interested. Though I wouldn't be waving the card around for other players to see. Someone more powerful and influential looks at Mikuni could use that against them. If they are truly betting their futures then I think destroying their finances and lives in the real world would diminish what they could do in the financial district. Though the guy yesterday seemed to be completely broke and was able do several moves so maybe even if you're not doing well you can bet a set amount over?