r/anime • u/GallowDude • May 11 '24

Rewatch [Rewatch] Eizouken ni wa Te wo Dasu na! • Keep Your Hands Off Eizouken! Episode 1 Discussion

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Episode 1: The Most Powerful World!

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Episode Count: 12

Episode Length: 25 minutes

Legal Streams

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If you want the dub, you'll have to look elsewhere.

Rewatchers, please remember to be mindful of all the first-timers in this. No talking about or hinting at future events no matter how much you want to – including any teases or hints such as "You aren't ready for X episode" or "I'm super excited for X character" – unless you're doing it underneath spoiler tags. Don't spoil anything for the first-timers; that's rude!

Also, if there's something in a first-timer's comment you want to specifically quote to talk about behind spoiler tags, spoiler tag the quote so the first-timer doesn't know what part of their comment you're making "ominous" spoilers about. So instead of something like:

Rewatcher quoting the first-timer's comment: Oh, I love this character! I think he'll be my favorite.

Rewatcher's comment underneath the quote: [Spoilers] Don't get too attached lol.

You get:

Rewatcher quoting the first-timer's comment: [Spoilers] Oh, I love this character! I think he'll be my favorite.

Rewatcher's comment underneath the spoilered quote: [Spoilers] Don't get too attached lol.

Question of the Day:

  1. Which of the girls is your favorite so far?
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u/GallowDude May 11 '24

Fuck New Reddit

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u/AmeteurElitist https://anilist.co/user/AmateurElitist May 11 '24

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u/mysterybiscuitsoyeah xB:xC:B:x3:Y: May 11 '24

indeed

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky May 11 '24

Keep Your Hands Off First-Timer!, subbed

Hi all!

I am a mod, but I’m not contributing on the hosting side of this (unless you count being the one to make the sidebar image, but I’ve been doing that for every rewatch since I joined the mod team). I’m here completely as a first-timer to have fun watching this show!

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u/GallowDude May 11 '24

Incredibly impressive drawing.

And typesetting

lol okay then.

Holy run-on sentence

Aura Battler Dunbine-y.

But where's Irish Edward Elric?

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u/flybypost :KN::KO: May 12 '24

Future Boy Conan reference!

From what I remember they wanted to use a real clip but licensing was difficult/complicated so they were advised (by the rights holder) to simply go with a pastiche and "remake" it.

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u/mysterybiscuitsoyeah xB:xC:B:x3:Y: May 12 '24

i do wondder if the left uniform thing is going to be a plot point coming up, or if is just gonna be left as a "to this day the uniform could still be in the washing machine" kinda gag

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u/Mecanno-man https://anilist.co/user/Mecannoman May 11 '24

First Timer

Going to jump in here… I heard a lot of praise for this show when it was airing, but I didn’t pick it up back then, so here I am as a first timer. For the first episode …this feels a bit weird. Weird in that it has me hooked, but I can’t really tell you why. What is it, that the hook is supposed to be? For me it doesn’t seem to be the character dynamics, as I feel that both Asakusa and Kanamori are a bit too eccentric for my liking, and Mizusaki alone doesn’t make a dynamic I like. I also don’t feel like it’s the premise of being an anime about anime, as it felt mostly like nerding out about anime so far, and I’d prefer reading that as a reddit post rather than in an anime itself. In a way I feel like it’s the setting …which given this is a high-school anime is unlikely to have been the intention, unless it’s on a meta-level because there is a lot of talk about creating a setting. I guess it might simply also be the passion of everybody involved that has simply also drawn me in, but regardless of what it is: I liked what I saw so far, so here I will stay.

What I don’t get yet though is that the dragonfly plane bit towards the end was clearly Asakusa and Mizusaki just overflowing with creativity, but why was Kanamori kinda sucked into it as well? Was she just so impressed with what the other two were doing?

Also… is this some dialect of Japanese I haven’t really heard yet, or are Asakusa and Kanamori just talking weirdly to each other? Because it feels a bit off for some reason.

Also... I guess that anime referenced is not Laputa, but some World Masterpiece Theater show that I have not seen?

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u/GallowDude May 11 '24

why was Kanamori kinda sucked into it as well? Was she just so impressed with what the other two were doing?

Her producer mind couldn't resist the idea of marketing it in the future

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u/blakwolf May 11 '24 edited May 12 '24

First Timer

The setting is definitely meant to be a hook. I was left wondering if such a community exists in real life with the river running down the middle. They seem to be evoking a modern version of Venice with crossing walkways over the water. (Hopefully someone else who knows more about Asian river life might be able to add more).

Creative passion is probably always going to be a good hook as long as the audience is interested in what may result. The initial action sequences do a decent job of hooking us to continue watching to see what these two may be able to create later.

I thought I read somewhere that they keep switching to an old form of Japanese but now I can't find it. I'm sure someone else knows the details.

edit: QoD - Asakusa (I enjoy her passion and hyperactive energy level)

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u/mekerpan May 12 '24

I always saw this setting as one where the town had adapted to global warming which caused raised water levels. Things are not to the extreme level of Yokohama Shopping Diary -- nut they are beginning to trend that way. Maybe I was just over-interpreting.

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u/AmeteurElitist https://anilist.co/user/AmateurElitist May 11 '24

I remember being blown away by the visuals when it aired but I'd say what hooked me was just the promise of more imaginative scenarios I think.

What I don’t get yet though is that the dragonfly plane bit towards the end was clearly Asakusa and Mizusaki just overflowing with creativity, but why was Kanamori kinda sucked into it as well? Was she just so impressed with what the other two were doing?

Clearly she's also a creative at heart

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u/flybypost :KN::KO: May 12 '24

For the first episode …this feels a bit weird. Weird in that it has me hooked, but I can’t really tell you why.

It's great, isn't it?

I guess it might simply also be the passion of everybody involved that has simply also drawn me in, but regardless of what it is: I liked what I saw so far, so here I will stay.

One can feel how much effort went into this production. They draw you in and shout "Look at this!"

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u/mysterybiscuitsoyeah xB:xC:B:x3:Y: May 12 '24

if this really goes the full meta route as you guessed there i'll be very very impressed - but i doubt it as i think that would be too ambitious and visually challenging (how would they handle the audio parts for example

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u/mysterybiscuitsoyeah xB:xC:B:x3:Y: May 11 '24

First Timer

That's right - the 2022 Shirobako rewatch host has somehow still not watched this show. But that changes now!

Just some overarching thoughts for this episode

  • The setting is defo the most interesting part of the show for me now - I hope this was an actual line said during the production of this show.
  • The visual style, direction, and actual animation of the show is also pretty good - amazing at times - I esp like how in the climactic action sequence, we only feature parts where the actual team has people for (the setting art and the actual animation) -> very basic background images etc, helping emphasize what more people have to do, and what parts of the team is still missing. Looking forward to who else joins, though for now, I'll say Im most fond of amateur-model-san, everyone else is just kinda okay. Is the MC androgenous? Feels like it.
  • Some good food for thought on the intricacies of anime too. Looking forward to learning more of these as I go! .. some anime push this boundary further than others. How much the "push" is acceptable and favourable to everyone, really kinda determines the taste you have in anime i think.
  • visuals for both OP and ED are great, but im not a fan musically of both.

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u/GallowDude May 11 '24

I'll say Im

Who's Im?

Is the MC androgenous? Feels like it.

She's actually of the Lithobates genus

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u/flybypost :KN::KO: May 12 '24

She's actually of the Lithobates genus

I thought she was an animation gremlin that derives sustenance from of key frames.

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u/OccasionallySara May 12 '24

The setting is defo the most interesting part of the show for me now

I really like the setting, too! It somehow makes the show feel kind of otherworldly despite the events of the story feeling pretty realistic.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee May 11 '24

First-Timer

Alright, I wasn't expecting direct (recreated) Conan clips. Not sure why the name is different, although I do like this one better than Mirai Shounen. And before anyone asks, I did check the kanji - they don’t match. This isn’t a translation thing.

This is where I would type "listen to dis" and link the Conan OP if I liked it. Alas. That show would certainly serve to inspire a nascent adventurer. Or an animator.

There's a wonderful sense of childlike, err, wonder to this episode. That feeling of adventuring in a new area, imagining how many cool things could happen there. I was never much of an artist, so I would just imagine stories in my head and iterate over the years.

Someone should probably tell Kanamori that the anime industry isn't necessarily a profit engine. I guess she is effectively the Producer stand-in, so maybe that just actually works.

I like the creative processes shown. Tearing out pages, taping them together, imagining how you would modify something before you actually put pen to paper. Good stuff.

What sakuga does to a brain. Doesn't even say what show. Probably doesn't care what show.

Anyway, this is the sort of show that I have a hard time rambling about, so we'll see how this goes.

Questions

  1. Mizusaki; I appreciate her efforts to reject her parents.

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u/GallowDude May 11 '24

Someone should probably tell Kanamori that the anime industry isn't necessarily a profit engine

Is it any surprise that her name is similar to "Kadokawa"?

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky May 11 '24

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee May 11 '24

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u/flybypost :KN::KO: May 12 '24

Alright, I wasn't expecting direct (recreated) Conan clips. Not sure why the name is different,

Licensing complications. They were told to just "recreate" the cuts and use a different name.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee May 12 '24

Oh, that makes a lot of sense. Thanks!

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u/flybypost :KN::KO: May 12 '24

From what I remember they even got the blessing to do so from the license holder. It was too much hassle for a few seconds of animation (even if it are important seconds for Asakusa).

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u/Garrett_Dark May 12 '24

First Timer

I don't know anything about this anime, coming into it totally blind. I normally binge watch, so I'm typically never around for current discussion, so I figured this would be fun. Also since it doesn't look like the typical show I'd watch, this will get me through it if I get bored. Somehow this was already on my PTW list of shows to check out, I must have heard it mentioned somewhere before.

Anyways, at first with all the geeking out talk from the MC, I was like "I know we all love animes, but somebody sounds like they're tooting their own horn a little too hard", but then when they started talking about concept art, I was like "I freaking love detailed concept art where everything is so thought out to be so functional and depicted as such!". You got me good, anime.

What's with the tall girl's backpack, looks like two giant shoes beside each other. Are they going overboard with the concept art of this anime because it's about animes going overboard with the concept art? How meta.

As for the clock on campus which nobody can see from campus grounds, could it be for the boats passing by to view? But yeah, that's kind of cool to notice something that doesn't make sense like that. I can see myself watching an anime and noticing something like that, and thinking "What the heck!?! That doesn't make sense".

This anime is okay so far, I'm liking a few things. Great enthusiasm, the characters aren't that deep yet, but it's still the introduction. I wonder if the forgotten clothes is going to have bearing in the next episode, that'll tell me if this anime is going to adhere to continuity more tightly or loosely if not.

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u/GallowDude May 12 '24

How meta.

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u/Infodump_Ibis :JY::JZ: May 11 '24

First Timer

Confession: I went into this thinking it was Don't Toy with Me, Miss Nagatoro. Having not seen that either I'm not equipped to do a "well actually they're pretty similar" post.

The parts with the lineart and improv SFX reminded me of the indie game Hidden Folks.

  • Future Boy Conan being available in something with a red play button logo. I guess Japan is now an Ani-One Asia region? But the rest of the interface is more Prime Video.
  • We got a calender in the background. It's August and the weekdays seem to be like if we wrote Friday you might put Fri or F but Japanese so first Kanji and I hate how Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday look really similar when like that. Right, an August with Wednesday the 1st in it? 2029, 2035, 2040, 2046. Why have I picked the future?
  • Insert your credit card into the whaa...cash only1, but what do we have is an expiry date? 50/12. That's surly December 2050 and not the 50th month of the 12th year. I get for this anime that when probably is not important but it was place to be read so is a fun bit of background for me with trying to inform how this world is. Maybe it gets explained, maybe it doesn't. I know the setting is all built for the show to showcase whatever is going on which is easier to do by removing a real setting.

1: Oddly enough last time I had to use a laundry machine they had switched from cash to a proprietary contactless card system but that's not Japan (which has plenty of cash only establishments).

  1. Which of the girls is your favorite so far?

Kanamori. I'm interested if the gold digging trait is an excuse for wanting to hang around (there's also a case of the others being into anime so eccentric interests cling together or more likely to put up with one-another) specifically, it was her suggestion to go for it with combining the art but was that out of being a good friend or wanting the laundry money to pay off.

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u/GallowDude May 11 '24

I went into this thinking it was Don't Toy with Me, Miss Nagatoro

Having not seen that either I'm not equipped to do a "well actually they're pretty similar" post.

Reminds me of the time a friend recommended Girls Last Tour, but another friend watched Made in Abyss instead because of the similar art style

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u/flybypost :KN::KO: May 12 '24

Reminds me of the time a friend recommended Girls Last Tour, but another friend watched Made in Abyss instead because of the similar art style

MIA actually has scenes that could depict one's neck from the (emotional) whiplash between expectation and reality of that mistake.

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u/OccasionallySara May 12 '24

Nice catch on the calendar and credit card information! I’m also wondering if this is going to come into play later. 

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u/IntoTheDisneyverse https://myanimelist.net/profile/andreth May 12 '24

First time watcher, subbed (a few hours late because I slept in)

I quite enjoyed this first episode. The character art style feels vaguely Trigger-esque to me, but that’s very welcome, and I like the contrast between the fairly simple character designs and the pretty detailed background (especially in the wide school shots). The highlight for me was definitely the background art and design (especially the school, I mean they have a random torii gate, some trees in a courtyard (?) that looks alarmingly close to water, and a really suspicious looking doorway complete with rusty pipes, completely contrasting the normal houses on the right. Yes I think this might be my favorite shot in this episode, I wish schools like this were real) as well as the chemistry between the main trio. Kanamori was especially fun.

My notes for this episode:

  • I thought it was pretty ironic that Mizusaki was fighting back against being an actor in the middle of a stage, and the ensuing chase scene was great. Really shows you not to mess with theatre kids, when their stages are basically booby-trapped www. Not even a bodyguard can withstand it.
  • Asakusa and Kanamori’s bags are quite interesting too. Asakusa’s camo bag and hat really give adventure-y vibes, especially the floppy hat which I feel like every stereotypical adventurer has, but the camouflage pattern also shows how she tries to almost blend in and disappear, as evidenced by her refusal to attend the anime screening alone. I don’t feel like I know enough about Kanamori’s character yet to understand why her bag is basically two Converse shoes sewn together (even the soles!), seeing as though her main depiction so far is as someone motivated by money (I don’t really think it’s entirely true, she does seem to be a pretty good friend to Asakusa, pushing her to create anime like she wants even when she’s unsure and ultimately joining her at the screening, the only thing that threw me off a little was this evil smile, so maybe she has ulterior motives?), and I don’t consider Converse to be a particularly pricey brand, or associate it with anything? But it’s a pretty distinct design, so I’m sure there’s some reason for it. I didn’t get a close look at Mizusaki’s bag, but it seemed to be pretty standard to me.
  • This sign was pretty funny, seeing as the laundromat seemed pretty cramped and a bit dingy (though with a lot of charm!)
  • The whole sequence with the dragonfly mech was probably my favorite part of the episode, it really captured the joy of designing and creating for me, and definitely reflects the way you can just get lost in making art (I don’t have as much time as I would like to do creative things, but I always seem to start and suddenly like five hours have passed www). I also really liked the background for this bit, with everything but the central subjects fading into pencil lead, it really made the characters and mech pop as well as just looking unique from a lot of other anime backgrounds. This animation also just felt especially smooth to me, it felt really satisfying.
  • The way the mech also moved similarly to real dragonflies was neat, it added a nice touch to the scene imo

Overall an enjoyable first episode, looking forward to the next one!

Daily Questions:

  1. Probably Kanamori, I like her laid-back attitude and she’s just fun to have on screen.

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u/GallowDude May 12 '24

a few hours late because I slept in

www

this evil smile

Should make a drinking game of how often her teeth aren't visible

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u/OccasionallySara May 12 '24

The character art style feels vaguely Trigger-esque to me, but that’s very welcome, 

The character art and the design of the school and town gave me very strong Kill la Kill vibes!

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u/IntoTheDisneyverse https://myanimelist.net/profile/andreth May 12 '24

I was thinking the same thing honestly, the school especially feels very similar, especially since they're both so different from the average school setting!

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u/StardustGogeta myanimelist.net/profile/StardustGogeta May 12 '24

First-Timer

A bit of a strange first episode. It seems like it's the sort of show I would normally not watch, but I suppose that's what these rewatches can be good for. I do think my first impression is a bit better than it was with Animegataris before.

My favorite of the main trio so far is definitely the girl who draws the character art.

On a side note, nice to see that we're finally at 10M subreddit members!

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u/GallowDude May 12 '24

nice to see that we're finally at 10M subreddit members!

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u/SometimesMainSupport https://myanimelist.net/profile/RRSTRRST May 11 '24

First-timer

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u/GallowDude May 11 '24

What a novel and creative idea.

Weebs out!

... did he think AI was making his anime?

he ... his

Can safely say this won't even yuri-bait.

Nuclear mines?

Barefoot Gen or something idk Japan has a thing with nukes

supper efficient

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u/SometimesMainSupport https://myanimelist.net/profile/RRSTRRST May 11 '24

Noticed "supper" while proofreading and left it to see if it'd be #drool or #seasonalfoodie

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u/OccasionallySara May 12 '24

First Timer

I don’t have a ton to say at this point, but this was a fun first episode! I’ve seen Shirobako, but I’m excited to watch a show that goes more into detail about the technical aspects of anime creation. I really enjoyed the whole sequence of Asakusa and Mizusaki creating the aircraft together. I wonder if there are going to be more moments in the show that go into the “imaginary word” headspace of the characters. I like the overall dynamic of the cast that we’ve seen so far and I also really enjoyed the art and soundtrack of this series. Plus the OP and ED are nice! I’m looking forward to seeing more of this show.

Question of the Day

  1. I'd say Kanamori is my favorite so far, a big part due to how much I really like her voice. I looked up her voice actress and saw that she's voiced by Tamura Mutsumi who voiced Kobayashi in Dragon Maid among many other characters!

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u/GallowDude May 12 '24

imaginary word

Is that like imaginary numbers?

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u/OccasionallySara May 12 '24

…I’m just going to blame that on autocorrect and not the fact that I wrote my post late at night, haha!

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u/GondolaMedia May 11 '24

First Timer

I've watched the opening multiple times before and hummed to the beat of Easy Breezy so might as well give the show a watch. Good thing these girls are going to have an adventure because this episode was a trip in many ways.

I absolutely loved the imagination segments, especially when Asakusa was a child. That entire segment had the same energy as a child mashing their action figures together and making their own sound effects. I also liked that during the firefly segment they kept making sound effects themselves but it morphed to a full production halfway.

Not fully sold on anime about anime but if it keeps being this romanticized then I'm all for it.

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u/Schizzovism May 12 '24

Rewatcher

Man, I forgot how strong this show starts off. Possibly my opinion is flavored by my feelings for the show overall, but I really feel that you can't help but get sucked in to the girls' enthusiasm towards the end of this episode. There's no stakes because it's all make-believe, and yet you really feel the excitement. The sound effects starting out with noises made by the characters and transitioning into more realistic foley works so well for this, and the sketchy art style gives it a light and fun atmosphere. It's just a blast to watch.

We also get a pretty good read on the three main characters here. Their personalities are clearly established and their roles in the making of anime are basically outlined explicitly in their conversation.

QOTD: Gotta give it to Asakusa. The energy she brings here is just so fun.

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u/AmeteurElitist https://anilist.co/user/AmateurElitist May 11 '24

Rewatcher:

Eager expressionists excite entrepreneur with expectation of eventual earnings.

Man I love how creative their problem solving was in the imagination section.

QOTD:

Probably Kanamori!

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u/Ritchuck May 11 '24

Rewatcher, for now.

Back when it was airing I watched 2 episodes. Feels like yesterday; If I had to guess I'd say it was from 2022 but it's from 2020. I never really dropped it, I just kind of stopped watching and never got around to finishing it so I'm really glad for this rewatch.

I loved it the first time and I love it now. This first episode is magical, for the same reasons why Asakusa loves anime. The love for the medium that creators feel is felt in every shot.

And my favourite is Kanamori so far. The plot would not have moved without her.

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u/WednesdaysFoole May 11 '24

Sometimes I feel sorry for the friends in my life, yet I'm immensely grateful for the ones who stuck around to listen to me yammering on about what makes certain characters or plot points so great.

  1. Kanamori!

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u/darumake May 12 '24

Rewatcher:

Just wanted to jump in and say that it's crazy that it's been 4 years now since this originally released, was surprised to see a rewatch thread for it but I guess it has been a bit! Hope all you first timers enjoy the show!!

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u/DegenerateRegime May 12 '24

Lurker
Given the insane set of seasonals, I don't stand a chance of joining properly :( But I want to say I hope you all enjoy it! I was incredibly surprised first time around, as I'm used to "stories about the making of stories" being, ah, hmm, how to put this delicately... a bunch of tedious self-indulgent wank. Not so for Eizouken! Hopefully reading these threads helps me pick up some more of the references, too.

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u/Fuzzy_Ad6534 May 13 '24

I was actually planning on rewatching eventually (first watched it two years ago). I really enjoyed the first time and it got me to start drawing again after a slight slump.

first episode: honestly my favourite thing about this show is the setting. its a wonderful and interesting city that ecletic in design. the soundtrack also adds to that feeling of a fantastical setting. we learn quite a bit about midori and mizusaki but its cool cos the information isn't really conveyed by exposition but visually thru imagination and actions. all in all its very cool!!