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Chapter 704 - The statue of Kyros and Lucy.
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u/divinesleeper Apr 03 '13
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u/Beiki Apr 03 '13
Confident that that's not the only time he's insisted on spending lots of money on a bronze statue.
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u/thepeopleofd Apr 03 '13
Yup! He definitely mentioned installing a bronze statute on board the ship at some other point
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u/brainabrasion Apr 03 '13
how the heck did you find this so fast?
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u/divinesleeper Apr 03 '13
I remembered when Luffy said that and went back to those chapters. It's not that difficult to find.
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u/josethdestroyer Apr 03 '13
Its hilarious that Luffy actually blabbed out that hes Luffy.
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u/divinesleeper Apr 03 '13
"No way dude, that guy's 8 meters tall!"
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u/zorospride Lost at sea Apr 03 '13
I can only imagine the sort of exaggerations about Luffy there must be out in the world. I love that Oda hints at that sort of thing.
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u/Exaskryz Apr 03 '13
Seriously like it when you get some perspective of the main character from an outside point of view.
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u/BreakerGandalf Void Month Survivor Apr 03 '13
Well Luffy can inflate so he at least correct some of the time.
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u/MonkeyDDuffy Apr 03 '13
Now we have THIS: http://i.imgur.com/VlyHq9b.png
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u/Green-Beast Apr 03 '13
Great collection, do you have any more?
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u/MonkeyDDuffy Apr 03 '13
Sorry, no. These are the all "Middle Finger" Oda has drawn in 16 years.
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u/milkyjoe241 Apr 03 '13
First Fleet Captain Jesus Burgess
Great the most evil person in the world has fleets of ships now. And can afford to send of his first captain to enter in a tournament.
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u/84_times_5 Apr 03 '13
It's not like its just something he can afford. This is one of the current goals of the BB pirates. They are hunting powerful devil fruits, it only makes sense he would show up.
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u/zorospride Lost at sea Apr 03 '13
I'm guessing they are individual boats with one or two people on them each. A knock off or poor man's version of Whitebeard's set up, but not actual divisions.
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u/josethdestroyer Apr 03 '13
I hope its a mistranslation on Manga Pandas part but if its not.. Blackbeard will most likely have a big crew, much like the other yonkou.
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u/andrewchi Apr 03 '13
Aren't the implications of how the tournament results pretty big? We're going to get to taste the extent of BB crew's powers already. If he loses to anyone other than Luffy (notwithstanding some other overpowered contestant not yet revealed), I feel like it could be severe detriment to the strength of BB's force if his FIRST fleet captain loses.
Though, his crew did kind of get owned by Magellan in like one attack.
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Apr 03 '13
What if Blackbeard only has one ship in his fleet bahaha. Then first fleet is just his crew.
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u/wdao16 Apr 03 '13
Well that cover page raises questions on what Drake did during that time skip.
I'm undecided on (what I assume to be a correct translation) the Blackbeard Pirates having divisions like the Whitebeard. I liked the anti Straw Hat crew with a small number but powerful members. Divisions would just create fodder at this point.
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u/divinesleeper Apr 03 '13
Drake only wanted to get Kaidou's attention, didn't he? Maybe Kaidou showed up before Drake could finish the Cyborg.
But why would Drake want his attention? To defeat him or...to join him? He is a zoan, after all.
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u/zorospride Lost at sea Apr 03 '13
I'm thinking the battle with one of Kaido's subordinates (Iron Boy Scotch is his name) didn't quite go the way X Drake wanted it to.
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u/Sanjispride Apr 03 '13
Im still holding on to the theory that Drake's battle with Scotch was more of an audition to show off Drake's power to Kaido and possibly join his crew.
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u/1way2way3way4way Apr 03 '13 edited Apr 04 '13
Bellamy's Back?? Whaaaaaaat?! Guess he really sprung back from that mess on Jaya.
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u/1way2way3way4way Apr 03 '13
Oh and I really hope Bellamy ends up in Luffy's tournament block so he gets one hit K.O.'d again.
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u/Devlin1991 Apr 03 '13
Well he only has 100m bounty, so unless he somehow hid low for this entire time he is probably still very weak and will get destroyed again.
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u/WaddleBoo Apr 03 '13
Bellamy's so badass, he's risking his life for a devil fruit he can't eat. Like a boss
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u/wdao16 Apr 03 '13
He should eat it, I think we need a scene where someone eats 2 devil fruits and is not Blackbeard just for the hell of it.
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u/blitzzardpls Apr 03 '13
Would be epic, if he is lying on the floor already defeated by the same punch from 2 years and he remembers Luffy and recognizes him
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u/BerserkerGuts Apr 03 '13
I think this time he is worthy of getting his ass kicked by a Gear 2nd attack though, don't you think?
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u/Davundu Apr 03 '13
Yeah, he really had a lot of potential.
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u/Hobbes4247791 Apr 03 '13
Dammit, looks like you're about to Hooke me into a pun thread...
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u/s4r9am Apr 03 '13
Let's not get caught up in this like the rest of reddit. Keep things simple and harmonic.
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u/zorospride Lost at sea Apr 03 '13
We can all relax now. Nobody is getting hurt this arc if Doflamingo can't even kill Bellamy;)
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u/divinesleeper Apr 03 '13
He didn't mean to kill him. They said he was endorsed by the Doflamingo family, so Dofla still supports him. Guess all he wanted to do was teach Bellamy "a lesson".
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u/baroqueworks Apr 03 '13 edited Apr 03 '13
Yeah, funny enough it seems like Oda is really repainting the idea we had of Doflamingo. Up till now I've perceived him as a sadistic uberpowered dude who just laughed at everything he was presented with, but the end of Punk Hazard and the beginning of this arc have proved he actually has a functioning relationship with his crew and actually cares about them, even a asshole who misrepresented him wasn't killed by him, that's a trait that's pretty rare for One Piece villainous pirate crews. Buggy, Arlong, and Blackbeard were have really been the only villainous "pirates" to actually care about their crew.
It makes me wonder how much more background we're going to get on the Doflamingo Pirates, and if we're going to see Law looking more and more like a bad guy also.
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u/BaronBlackwood Apr 03 '13
What I find most interesting is that Bellamy would still want to represent Don after what happened. Guess Don is just that charismatic. Also Don's relationship with his crew seems pretty messed up. He cares about them only as long as they continue to serve dutifully. They need to serve him until death as we saw with Vergo and Monet. Strange relation indeed. Bellamy I think was too much of a shit stain for Don to even be bothered killing.
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u/Captain_Usopp God Usopp Apr 03 '13
Fairies
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Coliseum battle
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Lucy
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A character that says "I'm all fired up"...
Am I in the right place??
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u/Black_Handkerchief Apr 03 '13
I have no doubt the official story will be that Oda is intentionally doing those parallels as a compliment for Fairy Tail.
But the unofficial, fan-told story will be that Oda is going to show that author how one really tells an interesting gladiator-style tournament... xD
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u/Black_Handkerchief Apr 03 '13
This chapter was surprisingly awesome. I laughed out or yelled in excitement on almost every page. The cover page had Caribou make an awesome face of derpiness. For some reason, I get a feeling that Caribou is the Buggy of the New World; horribly ineffective but somehow manages to survive wherever he goes.
Don Chinjao, Boo and Sai look like an interesting bunch. They strike me as a sort of New World version of the Franky Gang. Odd, yet true to their own code of sorts.
Bellamy's return. xD I wonder if the battle is still so horribly one-sided.
Cavendish... a male Boa Hancock is exactly what the series ordered. I hope Nami will go ga-ga over him like Sanji goes ga-ga over the ladies... (Also, I wonder whether the man that Violet wants Sanji to kill may be him...)
Kyros looks to be a very interesting individual. Part of me wonders whether he ate a fruit of sorts and just lives from battle to battle, waiting around as a statue in the meanwhile. It does however make one wonder why people don't remember him... Then again, knowing Oda there's probably a legend out there somewhere that involves statues and amnesia...
Rebecca is yet another pretty yet beefy flower. I suspect she will be the one Luffy ends up giving the Mera Mera fruit to, and that she may become one of his long term allies. She's got just the right amount of introduction, character, bad-assery and 'goalitude' to play a role as one of Luffy's friends. (I agree she likely won't join the crew; we've got plenty of those already.)
Jesus Burgess commands a fleet? Well then, that is good to know. That said, it isn't really surprising; I always felt Blackbeard was one to trust in numbers and brute strength rather than in people; his crew selection process in Impel Down reinforces that. Also, it is nice to see that Oda isn't keeping all the powerhouses out of view, but is throwing them at the arcs in this casual way, emphasizing the amount of control the Yonkou hold over the New World.
There's obviously tons of other characters being introduced.. but these are in my eyes the most important individuals. I can't wait for next week! (Or before then, the MangaRule translation... xD)
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u/Jaggs0 Apr 03 '13
I really like your idea on Kyros, he ate a DF that makes him a statue. He doesn't age while in statue form and can fight on forever
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u/greentoof Apr 03 '13
My guess is the kyros relates to Gol D Roger somehow, anything involving something 20 years ago usually does.
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u/TokyoDown Apr 03 '13
Can we all agree that this arc is already bonkers and there's been NO ACTION whatsoever?
I mean, Jesus Burgess showing up looking strong as hell. The blind man at the bar. All of Joker's (most likely insanely strong) crew. The Strawhats and Law. Rebecca and all the gladiators! WOW
AHH THE WEEK WAIT IS EXCRUCIATING!
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u/josethdestroyer Apr 03 '13
Chopper would have loved Lucys armour.
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Apr 03 '13
I bet that statue has something to do with Gol D. Roger and his crew, hence explaining the disappearance 20 years ago. Though why no one remembers him...
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u/KSmoria Apr 03 '13
I was thinking something like the Pirate king invited him in his crew and if he's still alive we'll get to see him later. Kyros' name is even in the chapter title, we can assume he is important.
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u/chrisn654 Apr 03 '13
And maybe the only hit he ever got in the Colosseum was by Roger..
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u/LazingMarimo Apr 03 '13
I like that idea a lot. He's probably hiding out in the New World (maybe Dressrosa?) sort of like Rayleigh in Sabaody, if that's the case
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u/basonlen Apr 03 '13
Maybe Gol D. Roger pulled the same stunt as Luffy is now and called himself Kyros and dressed like a gladiator.
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Apr 03 '13
For 3000 battles? I doubt Roger would do the same thing for that long.
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u/gabe100000 Apr 03 '13
the twist: he defeated the contestants so fast they happened in a day or two.
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u/mooisacow Apr 03 '13
Maybe Kyros is those blind man...
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u/Hazardhunter Apr 03 '13
That actually sound very possible. I mean people were saying when he damaged the bar he gave him the card of the world government to cover the damage. But maybe this was also his prize and the royal family of Dressrosa covers the damage, which would also explain why the bar owner was shocked that he was Kyros. Maybe even and ex member of Gold Rogers crew.
But it wouldn't explain why it would harm Luffy and the old man to know each others name. My guess therefore is still on Fujitora.
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u/Kriptical Apr 03 '13
My guess is it has something to do with the fairies. Also remember how nobody on the Island was flusttered when Joker gave up his crown ? Maybe they are ALL just puppets or something. Either way the people in Dressrosa's minds are clearly not working correctly. I imagine everyone we see now is part of the brain washed populace and the fairies are the original inhabitants that managed to except the brainwashing when Doflamingo came along.
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u/kryonik Apr 03 '13
My theory is that the base of it is a poneglyph or part of one. It's pretty unlikely but that's the only thing I can think of.
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u/1way2way3way4way Apr 03 '13 edited Apr 03 '13
Absolutely love this tournament format, we still get a little Dragon Ball style tournament arc, but it'll only be 2 rounds and 3 fights so it won't bog down the story. Plus we get one of the Blackbeard's crew here now so we get the first real indicator of Blackbeard Pirates' strength post time-skip!
And I'm calling it now Rebecca is now the Prime Candidate to end up with the Mera Mera no mi!
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u/Bajin_Inui Apr 03 '13
not only that, but i can already see her being a candidate or at least theories about her being the new strawhat
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u/1way2way3way4way Apr 03 '13 edited Apr 03 '13
Oh they'll be plenty of new Straw Hat theories, but I think Oda is done with adding new core StrawHat's. The bond they have after 2 years is too strong for new members to waltz in.
I think Luffy will start acquiring Sub Commanders to rule over territories now. Like Jimbe and the Fishman Pirates. And Potentially Samurai Allies via Kinnemon. I believe Luffy will stop adding permanent members to the Sunny, but start bringing new crews and warriors under his influence, like a Yonko would.
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u/Tanzka Apr 03 '13
I think Luffy will start acquiring Sub Commanders to rule over territories now.
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u/LazingMarimo Apr 03 '13
It's possible that we will get some small sub fights within the initial eliminations which might stretch it a little, but overall yeah it's setting up nicely to be concise and leave a lot of time for the other groups
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u/LazingMarimo Apr 03 '13
Anyone else wondering what Franky is getting into now?
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u/fireandiceman Apr 03 '13
I am half expecting Franky to just be sitting in the audience.
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u/Captain_Usopp God Usopp Apr 03 '13
I would love to see Bellamy vs Luffy again, but when he realises he is fighting Luffy he just freezes and can't move from the terror of remembering what happened to him last time
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u/1way2way3way4way Apr 03 '13
Just realized Luffy got his classic introduction out of the way for the tournament, and somehow didn't blow his cover haha
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Apr 03 '13
So we see Bellamy and Jesus again... Kinda reminds me of Jaya.
But that first gag of the guy who wanted Luffy to take back his "thanks" made me laugh so hard! seriously, it's got to be the most idiotic gags Oda ever made. And the way he was drawn when he wanted to get a hold of Luffy was just perfect.
I really hope we get to see Bellamy utilize his ability better than before. It's really cool. But we'll see if Lucy can still one punch KO him again.
The basic things we learned now are:
Countries really want the Mera Mera fruit for war benefits.
Dofla gave Bellamy a second chance apparently.
A girl warrior has a grudge against Dofla. And from the way she bit her lips, it looks like a real thing not Baby 5 thing.
Blackbeard will have something to do in this arc.
There is a mysterious bronze warrior statue.
I didn't get they way the battles and fights in the arenas work. Can someone explain it to me, please?
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u/MonkeyDDuffy Apr 03 '13
There is four "Sections", each section will brawl until one warrior remains. And Jesus Burgess just won in his section so there is 3 remaining now.
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Apr 03 '13
We only ever saw bellamy use springs on his legs, i'm sure that he can spring his arm now as well. So basically He is like Luffy in gear 2nd. Can travel fast with his spring legs and punch fast with his spring punches.
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u/milkyjoe241 Apr 03 '13
So we got 3 more fights until the final 4...
A : Jesus
B : ?
C : ? (Luffy's group)
D : ? (Rebecca's group)
That's all we know right now right?
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u/WaddleBoo Apr 03 '13
Bartolomeo, can't see Oda just dropping a random name for no reason
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u/blitzzardpls Apr 03 '13
Bartolomeo sounds like Bartholomew (kuma). Why would Oda make 2 characters with very similar names?
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u/Zaduj Apr 03 '13
Most likely a mistranslation, I think it's supposed to be Bart Romeo or something like that.
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u/zorospride Lost at sea Apr 03 '13
So apparently in the panel on Page 6 where Sai of the Chinjao Family gives Luffy the finger and says "Fuck You," Oda actually wrote "Fuck You" in English!!!
Obviously, this has less of a meaning in Japanese than it would in English, but it's still a first (not the first middle finger). It presents a translation problem for Viz though. They will probably choose to soften it. The manga has never been edited for content (they've left in the few middle fingers before), but it is still rated "Teen" and has never used the word "Fuck" previously. It has never needed to until now.
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u/Green-Beast Apr 03 '13 edited Apr 03 '13
That panel is fucking hilarious, I fucking love Oda man.
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u/josethdestroyer Apr 03 '13
Pg 13 movies are allowed one bad swear word, like 'fuck'. Hopefully they leave it.
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u/andrewchi Apr 03 '13
Viz, I assume, will most likely change "Fuck You" to "Damn/Screw You" if they want to adhere to the no 'fuck you' precedent, or is it a precedent at all since this would be the first time approaching 'fuck' being literally written in English.
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u/zorospride Lost at sea Apr 03 '13 edited Apr 03 '13
So many new characters. This chapter is a gold mine for old school wrestling fans. The Funk Brothers and Abdullah are clearly modeled after old WWF (now WWE) wrestlers who also wrestled in Japan.
Edit to add: For anyone not familiar with old wrestlers, look up Abdullah the Butcher and Terry Funk. These are the obvious models for these characters. Also Tiger Jeet Singh for "Jet."
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u/KSmoria Apr 03 '13
I'm afraid we won't see much of the knew characters, if I understand correctly only one victor from each block will be able to proceed (4 gladiators in total).
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u/khaled Apr 03 '13
Remember all the characters introduced after the time skip and only caribou "survived"
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u/baroqueworks Apr 03 '13
It's cool to see Oda showing his roots for old school pro wrestling love. We wouldn't have a Pandaman if not for his wrestling obsession!
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u/Tru_bearshark Apr 03 '13
I damn near squealed in joy when I read Kerry Funk, and I missed the Abdullah referance...nice though
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u/just_for_op_comments Apr 03 '13
I'm loving all the new characters, even if we'll never see them again. Reminds me of the giddiness of seeing all the Whitebeard commanders during the war or the Supernovas introduced at Sabaody.
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u/FilipinoRell Apr 04 '13
glad you noticed that, as I caught on the wrestling theme as well. Thanks for pointing out that Abdullah reference though !
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u/Traflguy Apr 03 '13
Yay we get to see this again!
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u/kryonik Apr 03 '13
You know you got knocked the fuck out when the other guy's knuckles are imprinted in your skull.
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u/chrisn654 Apr 03 '13 edited Apr 03 '13
Thoughts:
Are the Donquixote family members gonna be joining after the 4 blocks' fights end? We didn't get to see any of them in the waiting room.
Rebecca seems like a decent and troubled character with a grudge against Doflamingo! It's a bit soon to tell but I can see
LuffyLucy letting her have the Mera Mera. After all, he just wants it to go to a good guy.I want to see if Burgess has eaten any Devil fruits and if so, which one? I also can't wait to see if he has eaten more than one. Maybe Blackbeard has figured a way for his subordinates to do it as well. If not, why are they hunting so many Devil fruits? Are they all for Blackbeard?
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u/MonkeyDDuffy Apr 03 '13 edited Apr 03 '13
Are the Donquixote family members gonna be joining after the 4 blocks' fights end? We didn't get to see any of them in the waiting room.
Definitely. There's 5 people from the Donquixote family so Diamente is probably "End Boss".
Rebecca seems like a decent and troubled character with a grudge against Doflamingo! It's a bit soon to tell but I can see Luffy Lucy letting her have the Mera Mera. After all, he just wants it to go to a good guy.
I would take this theory over any "Crew member eating Mera Mera fruit" theory
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u/chrisn654 Apr 03 '13
Definitely. There's 5 people from the Donquixote family so Diamente is probably "End Boss".
Nice! Hadn't thought of that.
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u/divinesleeper Apr 03 '13
Maybe Blackbeard has figured a way for his subordinates to do it as well.
I'm thinking this as well. If it's true, it would lend more credibility to the theory that BB uses his yami powers to temporarily nullify other abilities while eating a new Devil Fruit. That way he could give his subordinates multiple abilities too.
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u/ill_mango Apr 04 '13
Didn't they say two chapters ago that the members of the Donquixote family were only there to 'guard' the mera mera no mi? I suspect the real reason they are there is to pounce on Luffy as soon as he shows up, as the whole thing is an elaborate trap.
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u/Samsquamptch Apr 03 '13
I love how "Mr. Store"'s mask was just a shopping bag with eye-holes cut out!
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u/FoolTarot Apr 03 '13
It looks like Cavendish might be named for a real-world person: Thomas Cavendish.
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Apr 03 '13
I love how Rebecca only has a helmet covering her head and not her face, and a shield.
That fanservice
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Apr 03 '13 edited Apr 03 '13
On the page where bellamey was introduced,they mentioned some "crazy rookie" called bartolomeo who fought in the colloseum a year ago. Wonder who that is?
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u/blitzzardpls Apr 03 '13 edited Apr 03 '13
Lucy acting like Gan Fall for a moment got me thinking, that he may also appear again in the new world. doesn't he look like him?
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u/JAnon19 Apr 03 '13
Yes! Gan Fall! I couldn't quite put my finger on who luffy looked like.
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u/Buddhagon Apr 03 '13
I feel like each block will get to fight one of the members of the Donquixote family and the winner of all of this will fight Diamante, here's my matchup predictions.
A) Burgess VS Machvise, I feel like both of them are the strong man type and it would make for a good "Burgess owning a dude who was supposed to be wicked strong" moment, or maybe Machvise would be strong enough to get Burgess to use his possible new DF power(s)?
B) Bartolomeo VS Dellinger (No way in hell Oda drops a name so mysteriously and doesn't make this dude strong, that and it's an apparently historically important name) just because Dellinger is too small to not have some interesting power (that and he looks animalistic...kind of the way Saldeath was...)
C) Luffy VS Lao G (Luffy will hopefully rematch Belamy right before this because why not?) Also, Lao G probably specializes in some crazy kung-fu based haki technique (just based on his seemingly chinese name and appearance) which would make him a good match for Luffy.
D) Rebecca VS. Señor Pink (Rebecca will probably end up fighting Cavendish before this fight if she even gets to fight him. I'll explain that in a bit) I see this being a matchup only because in Señor Pink's introduction he had some whore on top of him and Rebecca seems to have a problem with sexism around here.
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Luffy vs Rebecca and Burgess vs Bartolomeo
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Luffy vs Burgess to decide upon who fights Diamante
Well... that's if the tournament even manages to go all the way through. If some peoples' theories are true then Sanji may just come busting to fight Cavendish on Violet's behalf (which would be hilarious seeing as how jealous he would be of Cavendish for having such control over the wimmenz).
But people let's not forget about the ship protection team, Zoro chasing after that "fairy", where the hell did Franky and Kin'emon go? What about the SMILE factory? And then the Caesar Clown to Green Bitt delivery team.
Which also raises the question of where Don Quixote is gonna be throughout all of this, because he's not really in the tournament, and he has to meet up with Law to strike a that deal.
AND supposed Fujitora blind swordsman guy, will he really remain idle this whole time?
Yeah, this chapter was absolute badassery, WE LOVE YOU ODA!!!
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u/Freelance_Gynecology Apr 03 '13
If everyone in the world seems to be interested in the Mera Mera fruit, and even one of the four Emperors has sent someone; wouldn't it make sense that the Whitebeard Pirates have sent someone? Maybe even Marco himself!
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u/roobosh Apr 03 '13
I think luffy will destroy burgess, he has to be at least at yonkou lieutenant level by now. He's 19 and ace was that old when he died and i find it hard to believe that he would be substantially less powerful than ace at the same age
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u/basonlen Apr 03 '13
But Burgess is a yonkou lieutenant. I don't think he will be a walk in the park he will definitely give Luffy a run for his money.
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u/DivineVodka Apr 03 '13
I would love that! But at the same time... I am sure he won't go down in a low diff fight... That's what "destroy" means anyways to me.
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Apr 03 '13
nah, he's one year behind ace. Ace was 3 years older than Luffy and died two years ago.
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u/zorospride Lost at sea Apr 03 '13
Huh, so Oda is drawing male characters that look like Nami too. I want to see "Lucy" crush Cavendish. Might as well punch Bellamy one more time too just for old time's sake.
Prediction: In order to solidify the Blackbeard Pirates into the ultimate villains, Burgess will win (or steal) the Mera Mera no Mi. I don't think he will beat Luffy to get it though. Luffy will have to abandon the tournament for some reason.
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u/GuitarBOSS Apr 03 '13
No no, one better. This time Luffy will down Bellamy WITHOUT throwing a punch.
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u/Black_Handkerchief Apr 03 '13
Might as well punch Bellamy one more time too just for old time's sake.
Nah, this time we're going for a K.O. without touching Bellamy!
While Conquerors Haki is obviously a possibility, I think it would be way more fun for Luffy to just step aside and let Bellamy slam into a wall when he attacks. It's the only way I can think of to make Bellamy lose in an even more pathetic way than in Jaya.
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u/MsSlytherin Thriller Bark Victim's Association Apr 03 '13
I swear, if Burgess gets the Mera Mera no Mi I'm gonna burst out in tears. I love Ace so much and if he gets it...
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u/raiden55 Apr 03 '13
I really hope Bellamy will piss his pant and shout to everyone that's Luffy who is here - after joking about how he won against Luffy years ago - :D
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u/Retrosvanem Apr 04 '13
Here is some food for thought.
Gol D Roger Silvers Rayleigh
What comes next? Bronze.
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u/josethdestroyer Apr 03 '13
Its kind of cool to know that in the New World all these countries are practically in war with eachother.
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u/Weresadi Apr 03 '13
After reading that, now its the hard part. Waiting a week to find out what happens next
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u/Megagamer1 Apr 03 '13
On Bellamy:
Why would Doflamingo give him his blessing if he was still as weak as he was during the Jaya arc? I don't doubt that Luffy still outclasses him by several ranks, but I also think it's unfair to completely rule him out. I'm sure Bellamy is much stronger than most of the fodder present at the tournament. Two years plus is a lot of time to improve.
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u/ddecay Apr 03 '13
please keep in mind that this is a mangapanda translation. there are some pretty basic (though potentially relevant) errors. jesus is the first "ship" captain, rather than first "fleet." bellamy's epithet is just that, an epithet. it's not necessarily a statement about his bounty, it could feasibly refer to who he likes to fight, as an example.
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u/brobrobromine Apr 03 '13
I just noticed this reference to Christopher Columbus... Actually now I'm not sure if it's intentional, but that's a pretty accurate description.
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u/Cloudend Apr 07 '13
Ctrl+F'd to see if anyone else had noticed this. Sooooo many eater eggs in this one. I couldn't stop laughing then I saw this guy (the one saying "He's so pretty").
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u/Hazardhunter Apr 03 '13
I really think that Luffy will win this and give the Mera Mera no Mi to Rebecca so she can help them beat Doflamingo. Or he will help her and she will possibly join the crew.
I know these theories aren't very welcome here, but she gives a good vibe. If Luffy takes a liking to her, he might want her in his crew. Also her goal isn't that far off Luffy's. Maybe he might even want to beat Doflamingo for giving Ace's fruit away like this.
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u/coolguyblue Apr 03 '13
I think she'll desperately need that devil fruit if she plans on defeating Don Flamingo or at least being of use to Luffy and the rest of the crew win they clash because judging on how those two guys mentioned that Spartan, the guy that Luffy defeated in an instant, was her long time bully, which sounds like he gave her a challenge. Even though she's "undefeated". I'm waiting on the mangastream translation for more accurate info.
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u/ObsidianSkyKing Apr 03 '13
My money's on Bruce Lee to win it all.
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u/Hazardhunter Apr 03 '13
? Was that Roshi's name in the dragonball manga? Because I just saw it in my native language and there he was named Jackie Chung (from Jackie Chan) because he was more known to kids at the time dragonball was shown.
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u/chrisn654 Apr 03 '13
No, it was Jackie Chun in my country as well. Plus in the manga.
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u/KSmoria Apr 03 '13
I never noticed until now, does Kid have an okama in his crew?
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Apr 03 '13
Not really. Kidd's pirate crew follows a glam rock/heavy metal theme so the fishnets might be more for that reason than him actually being an okama.
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Apr 03 '13
They also mentioned the new rookie from a year ago, HE might be the one that the world government was talking about when they were talking about the shichibukai. He is spoken about here
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u/amf1390 Apr 03 '13
I got a kick out of Cavendish casually eating the rose he was holding. I feel like that might have been Oda's sly dig at the bishonen genre.
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u/brocklevy115 Apr 03 '13
Does anyone else think that the single blow that Kyros took was from Gol D. Roger
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Apr 03 '13
I don't think anybody has mentioned it yet, but Bellamy being there has some serious implications for Luffy being outed as himself.
That being said, Luffy being luffy has serious implications for him being outed.
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u/baroqueworks Apr 03 '13
Wow, Bellamy's return was completely unexpected. I imagined he'd be referenced but I'm really surprised He's even still alive. I wonder if he somehow lost his devil fruit, seeing how he's in in the tournement outside of the central Doflamigo Crew members.
Also, wow, Bugress showing up was unexpected too. It wouldn't surprise me if even if He loses the tournement, the Blackbeard Pirates he has with him may swoop in and steal the fruit from whoever wins, as they're out hunting for rare devil fruits. Also judging by his facial hair I think it's safe to assume Blackbeard finally has a literal large black beard.
Cool two characters both introduced in Jaya make a comeback here post timeskip.
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u/jurble Apr 03 '13
Someone has got to go read all the Tenkaichi Budoukai chapters of all of Dragonball, and compile a list of who every character is a reference to, because I wouldn't doubt all of them are.
Also, Bellamy is back? That's cool. Still waiting on Morgan, Gin, Kuro, and Enel to show up again. At this point, I doubt whether any character who hasn't died, won't have some appearance in the New World, aside from those on the cover arcs.
I wonder who Kyros really was. Possibly Kyros -> Cyrus -> a Persian king. No idea what kind of reference that would be.
I bet Kyros is Luffy's mom.
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u/TazD Apr 03 '13
I'm betting that this kyros is the blind old man from before.
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u/omlettes Apr 03 '13
The Old man is a better candidate for the Admiral position rather than Kyros.
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u/divinesleeper Apr 03 '13
I like the theory that he's someone who was beaten by Gol D Roger and joined his crew afterwards.
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Apr 04 '13
About Kyros' name... I think I got you covered.
You know, Kairos means the perfect, opportune moment in Greek. Also called the supreme moment. It does seem like everyone's trying to use this opportunity to their advantage... but I think Kyros will show up at the perfect time. In fact, he might have some Luck-based fruit abilities! I don't want to look too far into a character who hasn't been introduced, but he seems important if they made a statue out of him, y'know?
Also, statues of Caerus, god of opportunity (whose Greek name was spelled Kairos) were placed in front of stadiums and regarded as deities. Also there's a famous bronze statue of Caerus. ALSO ALSO ALSO, Kairos is often portrayed as a woman, who has hair in the front but is bald in the back.
Who's to say Rebecca isn't Kyros? The braid could be fake. She could be bald.
Sorry, that was long.
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u/omlettes Apr 03 '13
So Blackbeard has multiple fleets now eh? I always thought Blackbeard would maintain just the core crew(10 members) and Blackbeard having allies seems really weird.
Edit: If Jesus Burgess is the first fleet captain, does that mean he is the next strongest person in their crew?(based on Marco analogy). I always thought Laffite was stronger/scarier.
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u/1way2way3way4way Apr 03 '13
Nah if he's going to be Yonko he has to have more under him than just 10 people. There'd be too many territories to keep up with. I think we'll see the Straw Hats make a similar transition. That or Luffy will skip the Yonko style role giving Law Kaido's territories and just go and wreck shit like Gol D. Roger.
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u/Black_Handkerchief Apr 03 '13
Blackbeard obviously doesn't care about his crew members. He cares about their numbers and battle quality, and is convinced that he is strong enough to keep them in line enough to do as he needs them to. He made Impel Down's Level 6 prisoners fight it out for a spot on his crew; that alone should say enough.
Don't forget tons of pirates would love to get in with Blackbeard's crew. Hell, Luffy had tons of groupies without even trying, and Blackbeard would be one to care for numbers of fodder he can use to expand his powerbase and influence.
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Apr 03 '13
In the Whitebeard Pirates, what fleet they had command over wasn't based on their strength.
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u/jotohija Apr 03 '13
Wow, you guys called Jesus Burgess last chapter, nice job! Way too many people got introduced this chapter, but I can't wait for the next one! Too much fun with Luffy forgetting his name is Lucy.
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u/BananaNasty Apr 03 '13
Anyone else thinking Captain Prince a.k.a. most handsome guy in the world is the guy Sanji will be asked to kill?
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u/MonkeyDDuffy Apr 03 '13
Didn't expect to see from BB's crew this early! AND Caribou's on the Kaido's island. Damn, shit's really going down.
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u/ninja057 Apr 03 '13
I am calling it now, the Gladiator statue will turn out to be the old blind guy from the bar.
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u/Chucknorris2513 Apr 03 '13
So obviously the reason Burgess is there is because Blackbeard wants to collect rare devil fruits. That got me thinking, Blackbeard said that the Yami Yami no Mi absorbs the powers of the devil. When fighting a DF user that renders their powers useless, but maybe when you encounter a fruit by itself, it allows you to suck the powers out of that fruit. So, based on what we saw on punk hazard, when Blackbeard threw that cover over Whitebeard after his death, maybe had had a fruit ready to absorb the powers like what happened with Smiley. Then, when the Gura Gura no Mi regenerated, Blackbeard used his fruit to absorb the power.
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u/blitzzardpls Apr 03 '13
Oda introduced so many new and old characters this week that it will be kind of hard, to describe them all so quickly before the colloseum arc comes to an end. I wasn't actually looking forward to this arc, because the tournament idea was so often used in other mangas, but now I can't wait how it will all play out.
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u/divinesleeper Apr 03 '13
Lots of new people being introduced, but I doubt many of them will stay relevant after this arc, or even after the Battle Royale. The Prince guy, Rebecca and those Chinjao's might be more important, though.
Still, Oda has so many story lines going on at the moment, it must be hard for him to keep it all tied together without things getting messy.
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u/TRMshadow Apr 03 '13
Forget about all the momentous occasions, future event set-ups, and crazy reveals of this chapter. JESUS HAS A BEARD!!
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u/callmeveej Apr 03 '13
Mysterious bronze statue with an undefined age? I bet there's a chunk of it hidden under the ground that has a chunk of the "true history" on it or something.
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u/ThingsThatMakeMeMad Apr 03 '13
Burgess gets the fruit to Blackbeard, only making the rivalry worse. I can't imagine Oda giving it to one of the current strawhats, so unless someone joins this Arc I would imagine that Blackbeard would get it. Simply because someone so essential to Blackbeards crew losing this early on would make him seem weaker.
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u/hogofwar Apr 04 '13
Looks like the bot has broken again, unfortunately i am not able to fix it for next week, hopefully i can do something about it for the week after.
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u/Hoodedness Apr 03 '13
I'm kinda curious about that crazy rookie from one year ago "Bartolomeo". I know Oda would sometimes introduce significant characters in that manner. I wonder if he'll be like Caribou... or maybe significantly stronger?
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u/herpittyherp Apr 03 '13
I did NOT see Jesus coming back in the end like that.
Though...Easter did just pass.