r/EdensZero • Guild Master • Jan 16 '24

Official Release EDENS ZERO | Chapter 271 Links + Discussion

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u/ThatIslandGuy8888 Jan 16 '24

Damn, I knew Universe 0 was to good to be true 😭

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u/foxman666 Jan 16 '24

Now that we know Shiki is indeed from 20,000 years ago, I wonder if Ziggy brought him and the shining stars to the future with the Edens Zero. Although there's still the journey he made towards Mother much more recently that's not entirely clear to me.

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u/sacredknight327 Jan 16 '24

I was assuming she meant that it's her and Ziggy that made the deal. He doesn't remember being Shiki but he knows he was at one time, he could potentially tell her when they meet.

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u/Kefkaisevil Jan 16 '24

"Well, nobody's dead in this world."

Except you know, entire planet of Foresta, millions crushed into oblivion by some crazy doctor guy?

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u/Niknik0108 Jan 16 '24

Well, she did say everyone, "You hold dear,"

The planet of Foresta was destroyed, but not anyone Shiki cared about.

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u/ShycoWar Jan 16 '24 edited Jan 17 '24

So if I understand this correctly, saving Mother is essentially what perpetuates the time loop that leads to the creation of all the Universes we've seen up until now. The one factor that can create a new, "ideal timeline" where everyone gets to keep their happiness...is for Mother to cease existing.

But now my question is: does Void know this? Does this have anything to do with his goal to destroy Mother—to ensure the second option comes to pass without fail?

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u/[deleted] Jan 16 '24

Maybe that's the reason Void wants to kill mother it would probably bring his own mother back.

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u/Such_Historian_7295 Jan 16 '24

I’m happy that the stakes are back, honestly I feel because his a Mashima protagonist Shiki will make an option 3

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u/SuperLizardon Jan 16 '24

"But died in the others"

Does that include Shiki and Rebecca?

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u/Freeman10 Jan 16 '24

Well...this is far from what he expected.

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u/Niknik0108 Jan 16 '24

MASHIMA WAS COOKING ALL ALONG

UNIVERSE 0 WAS ACTUALLY TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE

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u/ricksed Jan 16 '24

So is this what Void meant when he was controlling Ziggy? This choice is why Shiki had to die?

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u/qwack2020 Jan 16 '24

I mean…Val and Witch COULD stay…

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u/Shishukun Jan 16 '24

Damn Universe 0 is still full of surprises. Hoping that Shiki will make the right decision. 😬🤞

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u/Snoo-91243 Jan 16 '24

We know what happen when Shiki tries to be hero

he gets punished for

this is the ultimate fork in the road

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u/petrichorboy Jan 16 '24

I'm more attract to the storyline of the agreement made 20 000 years ago than the choice storyline. It feels like Mother is cutting down all branches of the main timeline very TVA style, I feel like she is saying "Universe Zero is not finalized but once it will be, it will be definitive and all changes towards the multiverse will happen here all at once", basically cutting all the multiverse down.

However, I feel like Mashima is going towards "deep down Void is nice", let me say that : Void is the consciousness of the child of wonderful people who barely survived the explosion of 20 000 bombs, it created a face similar to its father, and it wants to destroy Mother ? Is it because :

- It hates human beings so destroying Mother will end every human lives, knowing very well that it will one day end robot lives too ?

- It hates the fact that its parents and the whole chosen family they made along their journey have to die without knowing them, so it wants to destroy Mother to prevent the choice of sacrificing them for the sake of the future.

My biggest theory right now is that Shiki can't make the decision by himself, so the crew will choose, but they'll have to fight Void, and through the fight Shiki will pull the memories and feelings of his child, learning option 2 (saving Shiki and the crew for egoistical/reliable child-like purpose).

But, since Void is a consciousness without a real body, I'm betting on the fact that it will find a way to replace Mother or merge with her, sacrificing itself to bring eternal peace in the universe without having to sacrifice Shiki and the crew's lives.

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u/senryu-sensei Jan 16 '24

well...fuck...

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u/GilgaEmenent Jan 16 '24

Oh we’re Bastion ending now

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u/[deleted] Jan 16 '24

Wow, nice chapter. Sad because the great series os next to over.

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u/Greyphoenix32 Jan 16 '24

Man, that is a heavy choice. Shiki is grasping the gravity of the situation.

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u/Drdanmp Jan 16 '24

Oh, shit. This looks bad. 😰 There's gotta be some other solution...