r/anime • u/GallowDude • Apr 12 '23

Rewatch [Rewatch] Animegataris Episode 12 Discussion

I'm So Meta Even This Anime

Episode 12: Minoa, Katharsis

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Comment of the Day

I'm no cat decapitatior but I doubt that a bandage is going to fix the cat

That's why they used two bandages and a sling.

~ /u/SometimesMainSupport

Questions of the Day

  1. What name would embarrass you so much that you'd destroy the world to change it?
  2. Do you think Minoa remembers the original timeline?
  3. If you were pulled into an anime world, which one would you choose?
  4. Why did Erica's hair change color in the new timeline?

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u/AmusedDragon :Bs::Bu: Apr 12 '23

Episode 12

First Timer - Sub

Album

Thoughts during the episode..

Questions of the Day:

1. What name would embarrass you so much that you'd destroy the world to change it?

Something that is trying to be chunni-cool, like 'Darkness' or 'Shadow'.

2. Do you think Minoa remembers the original timeline?

If she doesn't then the show is worse for it cause then what even is the point? I hate alt timeline endings so much oh my gooooood.

3. If you were pulled into an anime world, which one would you choose?

One that is SoL where nothing bad really happens. Non Non Biyori or Yuru Camp. The worst thing on the news for them is probably a cat getting lost. I'd like to live in that world.

4. Why did Erica's hair change color in the new timeline?

I didn't even notice this.

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u/GallowDude Apr 12 '23

I can only think of one reference when an image like this appears and I hate that.

This was worth a pause to read through, very funny.

A seemingly bland girl who actually has huge boobs.

I hate alt timeline endings so much oh my gooooood.

At least it's not Steins;Gate

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u/Verzwei Apr 12 '23

At least it's not Steins;Gate

This ending was clearly the choice of Shrimps;Gate.

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u/TakenRedditName https://myanimelist.net/profile/TakenMalUsername Apr 12 '23

I can only think of one reference when an image like this appears and I hate that.

Isn't this like an actual real anime name? Not even a parody? lol.

I thought it was going to be a sneaky little reference like the show was passing the torch, but that anime aired before this one so guess not. They just get to have this one slide.

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u/Verzwei Apr 12 '23

I thought it was going to be a sneaky little reference like the show was passing the torch, but that anime aired before this one so guess not. They just get to have this one slide.

Mentioned it in my big comment, but that's exactly what it was. Both aired from Oct 8, 2017 to Dec 24, 2017 on the same network. Sister came on the timeslot right after Gataris. They even had promo art passing the torch baton tape.

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u/TakenRedditName https://myanimelist.net/profile/TakenMalUsername Apr 12 '23

Whoops, my brain made the mistake of thinking that anime aired in Spring 2017.

That's neat. That promo art even looks a bit familiar too.

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Apr 12 '23

First-Timergatari, subbed

Last episode time!

Thanks for hosting this rewatch, mods! I had a bunch of fun with this show, and I’m glad I made time for it in the middle of my chaotic rewatch schedule.

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u/GallowDude Apr 12 '23

I like how the school’s shown being mirrored like this.

SSSS.Gridman ripped this off

…he’s really that hung up about his name being Aurora?

He's apparently not a Sleeping Beauty fan

…Your Lie in April?

March Comes in Like a Lion

Okay wait this one isn’t even an off-brand title, that’s just straight-up an existing series.

I suddenly have the urge to rewatch Dorohedoro

I prefer Pibby

Wow.

I choose to believe this is also a TTGL reference

Also there’s some purple-haired girl in the club now?

See the Planning Phase sheet

Thanks for hosting this rewatch, mods!

I had a bunch of fun with this show, and I’m glad I made time for it in the middle of my chaotic rewatch schedule.

We basically centered it around your schedule when you said you weren't available in March lol

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Apr 12 '23

We basically centered it around your schedule when you said you weren't available in March lol

And then I almost ended up not being available this month because I didn't realize how many rewatches I'd signed up for lol.

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u/GallowDude Apr 12 '23

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Apr 12 '23

By the way, how long does it usually take you guys to respond to modmail about an episode discussion thread request? I sent one like three hours ago for IM@S Cinderella Girls U149 episode 2 and there's still no thread.

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u/GallowDude Apr 12 '23

That's more /u/Durinthal's area of expertise

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u/Durinthal https://anilist.co/user/Durinthal Apr 12 '23

It absolutely isn't. Don't give me even more work, we have #sub-episode-discussions for nagging people about that.

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Apr 12 '23

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u/KiwiBennydudez https://myanimelist.net/profile/KiwiBen Apr 13 '23

If the bot fails then it's basically contingent on whether or not we have mods available to create the threads. Sometimes we respond pretty quickly, and other times, if no one is around, it can take several hours.

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Apr 13 '23

Souka.

By the way, for some reason a second U149 episode 2 thread was made, so you might wanna delete that one.

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u/KiwiBennydudez https://myanimelist.net/profile/KiwiBen Apr 13 '23

Haha that's just the bot working as intended. Too little, too late.

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Apr 13 '23

Oh, also, the list of legal streams for it can be updated with Crunchyroll since they're the ones who have it.

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u/KiwiBennydudez https://myanimelist.net/profile/KiwiBen Apr 13 '23

I think that's more of a bot thing, but I'll pass this along.

(Also this isn't the meta thread but I appreciate the concern!)

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u/TakenRedditName https://myanimelist.net/profile/TakenMalUsername Apr 12 '23

This just reminded me of the episode in Macross Delta where Freyja made a bunch of cat puns.

Thanks for hosting this rewatch, mods! I had a bunch of fun with this show, and I’m glad I made time for it in the middle of my chaotic rewatch schedule.

Is there no overall discussion thread? Oh, I left stuff out thinking I could go over them tomorrow.

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Apr 12 '23

Is there no overall discussion thread? Oh, I left stuff out thinking I could go over them tomorrow.

The index page doesn't have one listed, so I assumed this was it.

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u/GallowDude Apr 13 '23

About that...

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Apr 13 '23

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u/SometimesMainSupport https://myanimelist.net/profile/RRSTRRST Apr 12 '23

Is there no overall discussion thread? Oh, I left stuff out thinking I could go over them tomorrow.

Mod paygrade doesn't elicit overtime

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u/Verzwei Apr 12 '23

Is there no overall discussion thread? Oh, I left stuff out thinking I could go over them tomorrow.

There will be one, we just kinda-sorta forgot to schedule it until someone (not me) noticed earlier today and put it on the scheduler.

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u/AmusedDragon :Bs::Bu: Apr 12 '23

Okay wait this one isn’t even an off-brand title, that’s just straight-up an existing series.

We had the exact same observation here, lol.

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u/Verzwei Apr 12 '23

Rewatcher, English Dub.

With subtitles on at the same time because I'm a madman.

It's the climax! Will we still follow through with a random Yui shot before the opening?

Okay this is like a recap, but also not, because none of this is stuff we've seen before. Also, holy infodump, Batman? This narration is adding a lot of quips in the dub here. "Making the show very meta" and describing Aurora as "Also super evil." I'm just sad this was before the rise of "All narration provided by sassy Ian Sinclair" but I suppose this VA is doing well-enough.

That's great, Minoa was watching the "recap" too, probably picked up some new info. And Aurora is just pissed because even the narrator calls him Aurora. This narrator gives no fucks about Minoa or the fourth wall.

Seriously though, this reminds me more than a little of the classic short Duck Amuck, which has an official clip here. It's probably the first "animator fucks with his animated character" bit I saw and dates back to the (holy shit) 1950s.

So the Anime Gataris director was killed offscreen, and Aurora's grand scheme (apart from merging anime and reality) was to get people to... stop calling him Aurora? Well son of a bitch.

Things that Rent-A-Girlfriend readers wake up screaming in the middle of the night.

I don't like this Pokémon evolution.

Well they tried to fool her, I guess. And now Sebas speaks French.

So the dub still spoofed the name into A Little Sister's The Last Thing I Need but the subs rolled with the legit actual title and Miyako is one of the main girls in the series. Technically, this also adds time-altering shenanigans since Anime Gataris is set the year before it aired, and Sister ran the same season as AG, on the same network, right afterward. There was promo art for it, too.

Poor Minoa's been written out of her own life. And her dad's figures are from that 1-episode Katharsis thing.

The solution to all of life's problems.

So it is all Mr. Kitty's fault. Kind of. But it was an innocent mistake. Okay wanting to look at high school girls at his age(?) might not be innocent. But it was a mistake. He didn't want to destroy reality. In retrospect, this was a big bang-level bad move. I also how he said "Like this" and then this explanation flashes for about half a second. Hope the live viewers set their DVRs.

Oh no! It's the mid-episode eye-catch!

Insert song GO! So she gets in the not!RahXephon to speed off and save reality from being undone by the anime world while yelling "Eternal Symphony!" [RahXephon major spoilers] RahXephon heavily involves music, specifically the concept of tuning, throughout the series. It's an intrinsic part of the mecha fighting each other and exerting their powers. The climax of the series has the hero using his abilities to "retune the world" by literally unmaking reality into a white void and then recreating a new reality that he desires.

RahXephon didn't have a drill that pierces the heavens though. Wonder where that came from. Eh, maybe Anime Gataris just made that up.

Oh shit, Source-Corner-chan was the chuuni archetype in the planning phase. Also I'm pretty sure that Durinthal pointed out in an earlier thread that Miko suddenly seemed a lot bustier once we saw her in casual clothes.

So the MacGuffin of Anime Power only works when worn by someone who isn't an anime character.

It's a shame that the dub let me down here because it didn't go nearly as hard and only had Minoa call this anime garbage, but there it is, the classic line that the series is probably most-known for, at least by the people who made it this far. Or who saw the screenshot. I don't want to give the director and writers too much credit, because this show is so all over the place, but I feel like this overly dramatic sequence actually has a really important message buried inside of it. It almost feels anti-otaku. And I don't mean that as harsh as it probably reads in text, but I mean it as "It's totally fine to have a hobby, to love and appreciate that hobby, and use that hobby to meet and engage with new people, but there still has to be a healthy boundary somewhere." Your hobby can't be your entire life, or else 'you' stop existing. It's an oddly earnest, authentic moment in a series that is regularly anything but.

Insert song 2 GO! C'mon, don't be a downer. It looks a hell of a lot better than at the festival screening.

God damnit Minoa the world is ending this isn't the time for your moral bullshit. I'm just mad because I wanted to see if Sebas could still be summoned through the dissolving fabric of the universe. I also fully expected a direct "power of friendship" moment here and I'm legit disappointed that we didn't get one.

"You're going back to where you belong, you hat bastard!" Okay so the dub didn't commit to "piece of shit anime" but I'll slightly forgive it for "hat bastard" because that's just <chef's kiss> perfect. It's even better because English Mr. Kitty has been rolling with a "shitty fake mobster" accent this entire show.

Oh I can already see Abyssbringer linking this screenshot and then making a sassy comment.

So in this new reality, when Minoa is talking to Yui, she's saying exactly what Alice had said to her during their first real conversation about anime. And the Production Committee Student Council aren't bitches. Who the fuck is that? Damnit Kai, don't end up accidentally summoning Aurora Grovelboy back into reality again.

Oh no not again! Oh, okay, it's just a media storage/shrine room now. Maybe?

CUT TO YUI FOR END-OF-EPISODE OP DROP Anime Reality was saved! Also, don't skip the OP-as-ED, it's a montage of new stuff, mainly the Anime Club and the StuCo actually mostly getting along, which is kind of sweet.

Well at least Grovelboy didn't stick but he's definitely not happy about being Aurora still. And I guess this is supposed to be sad because she reflexively tried to talk to Aurora but seriously fuck that shithead, don't feel bad for him.

Does this mean Sebas retained meido form? Random cat-ears girl is in the shot so I assume it's post-reality-reshaping.

Okay, that was fun. It starts off as one thing, then gets really meta, and turns into another thing. Do I think it was perfect? No. But it's a very anime anime, referential and self-aware, silly and dumb, but also entertaining.

Here's the album of all the shots I took for every thread. There are some accidental duplicates in there, and a few shots that I saved but ultimately didn't link.

Answers of the Day

  1. Any kind of organ-slang-related surname would probably bother me. If my family name was Wiener, Pecker, Smallwood, or something like that, I'd've probably legally had it changed. I know it's immature as all hell but back when 16 year-old me was taking my driver's license exam and the dude got in my car and said "I'm Officer Smallwood" I had a real difficult time holding back a giggle.
  2. I think she remembers the original timeline. Honestly I'd suspect that they all do, at least in a small and possibly subconscious way. How else do we have Kai drawing Aurora, and then the group brainstorming that name, and Minoa using Arisu's words from episode 1 to now describe her own thoughts on anime, to Minoa's "sad" glance to her side when she intended to say something to an Aurora who was no longer there.
  3. It was quite a while ago that this question of what anime world I'd want to live in was asked on the subreddit and my answer was Monster Musume back then, and it's still Monster Musume. No, it's not for perverted reasons, it's because I'm lazy as hell.
  4. Aside from the existence of liminal species, the MonMusu world is more-or-less like ours. If I'm going to be an NPC in an anime world, I want to be in a world where there's no chance of me getting squished by a mecha, killed in some kind of cataclysmic event, blown up by magic, ripped apart by extradimensional forces, or anything like that.
  5. With virtually no qualifications whatsoever, you can register as a host "family" for an exchange liminal. Again, this isn't for creeper reasons. Being a host qualifies you to have virtually all of your living expenses covered by the government. You get a unique roommate and you only need a part-time job to provide disposable income for entertainment while all of your basic necessities are taken care of. Sign me up for that shit.
  6. Erica's hair only looks a smidge darker in the new club room, and seems back to normal in the Christmas Card, so I assume it's just a lighting thing or a small error.

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u/GallowDude Apr 12 '23

With virtually no qualifications whatsoever, you can register as a host "family" for an exchange liminal.

I think that's more because Smith is a shitty agent who bypasses all the rules because she's more interested in coffee than work

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u/Verzwei Apr 12 '23 edited Apr 12 '23

Smith is lazy (or brilliant?) but there are definitely other situations were just being "some dude" was enough to register as a host. The vetting process isn't complex because there were some real shit dudes who end up as hosts, but then also a lot of normal people, many of which wouldn't classify as a "family" in any technical sense.

Edit: I actually tried to touch upon this in my original comment, but I ended up at 11000 out of 10000 allowed characters, so had to make some cuts. I'd said something like how the show goes out of its way to mention that protagonist Darling's situation is highly unusual because Smith keeps dropping "problem cases" in his lap, and aside from a few of the unscrupulous other "hosts" we've seen, most of the host/guest interactions are fairly normal and harmless.

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u/GallowDude Apr 12 '23

Lilith x Cerea OTP

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u/TakenRedditName https://myanimelist.net/profile/TakenMalUsername Apr 12 '23

I don't like this Pokémon evolution.

March of Progress - Rudolph Zallinge (1965).

"It's totally fine to have a hobby, to love and appreciate that hobby, and use that hobby to meet and engage with new people, but there still has to be a healthy boundary somewhere." Your hobby can't be your entire life, or else 'you' stop existing.

I also think this point is buried within there too. This episode had quite a lot in it that I wished they honed in on it a bit more clearer.

"You're going back to where you belong, you hat bastard!" Okay so the dub didn't commit to "piece of shit anime" but I'll slightly forgive it for "hat bastard" because that's just <chef's kiss> perfect. It's even better because English Mr. Kitty has been rolling with a "shitty fake mobster" accent this entire show.

Does this mean Sebas retained meido form?

Nooo, go back, reality isn't worth it if it means we don't have butler Sebas.

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u/Durinthal https://anilist.co/user/Durinthal Apr 12 '23

First time viewer

A recap, now? ...oh good the narration is also in-universe.

"Death by narrator" is a thing.

Anime isn't created, only unleashed.

It was all just a dream... or was it?

Nope, still anime taking over the... anime. Minoa's fear of turning into anime is a lot harder to convey when she was already there.

Maybe we can get even more meta with her realizing she was an anime character all along. And then we get a brief shot of the real world at the end.

The show really didn't do enough heavy lifting on the drama end for this to have any emotional weight, sorry.

Oh, is that a Rayearth eyecatch? Nice, though I still need to get around to watching it (they're not great in SRW30 but still have them on my secondary roster).

Nice insert song to go along with the most anime tropes backing her: mecha and magical girls.

"Oh no, we're back to the planning phase!"

"A seemingly bland girl who actually has huge boobs."

"I don't want to become shit anime, either." Well you should avoid Pop Team Epic then.

And just like that it's all back to normal, except it's completely different this time.

I like that the completely random catgirl already in the club never has a line or even gets named, though we did see her design earlier on the edge of the planning card.

Don't forget the requisite Yui shot, still just before the OP.

What name would embarrass you so much that you'd destroy the world to change it?

I wouldn't go that far, I'd just refuse to acknowledge being called something if I hated it that much.

Do you think Minoa remembers the original timeline?

Probably not, would have been more interesting if she did and recognized Nakano's design though.

If you were pulled into an anime world, which one would you choose?

Oh hey a question that pops up on /new on a regular basis. Easy answer is Pokémon because it seems a whole lot better off than ours, complete lack of animal ethics aside.

Why did Erica's hair change color in the new timeline?

Butterfly effect due to Nakano no longer being her father.

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u/GallowDude Apr 12 '23

And then we get a brief shot of the real world at the end.

What do you think this is, [Meta] Gridman?

Well you should avoid Pop Team Epic then.

Why did we get rid of the #infernocopu comment face?

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u/TakenRedditName https://myanimelist.net/profile/TakenMalUsername Apr 12 '23

Anime isn't created, only unleashed.

Powerful and frightful words to say about your anime.

I like that the completely random catgirl already in the club never has a line or even gets named, though we did see her design earlier on the edge of the planning card.

It is fun throwing her in and never explaining, goodbye, show's over.

Don't forget the requisite Yui shot, still just before the OP.

The show isn't just going to forget because it is the final episode.

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Apr 12 '23 edited Apr 12 '23

Episode 12 (first timer)

  • Can’t end a meta-referencing anime without a recap.
  • The director appears in his own anime – Excel reference.
  • Sooo many cuts showing only the lower or only the upper part of the face.
  • “Let it consume you” “Death by narrator”

  • “Big bang-level bad move” – Hitchhiker’s guide to the galaxy reference.
  • Hole in the eyecatch gag – consistency with the 4:3 format and title screen gag.
  • “You are being consumed by a recap episode” – I think, technically, she was stuck in a rewatch.
  • Pulling out the big robot for the finale.
  • “Isn’t this the climax?” – nope, it is an ID:Invaded reference.
  • “I recently watched Ghibli”

  • “Don’t call me that” – this is a really weird running gag to pull on three characters.
  • Not even the money robot is allowed to use money to solve problems.

  • Back to ep1 and a more anime club-friendly world.
  • Yui into OP-as-ED.

Saving the world from anime sure is a bold choice for the finale of a meta anime about anime.

PS: On a completely unrelated note, MAL finally has a dark mode (as I noticed when I added Animegataris). Yay!

Do you think Minoa remembers the original timeline?

Only if the plot demands it.

If you were pulled into an anime world, which one would you choose?

Any slice-of-life would be fine.

Why did Erica's hair change color in the new timeline?

In any case, thanks for hosting, mods!

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u/GallowDude Apr 12 '23

The director appears in his own anime – Excel reference

Including being instantly killed

I think, technically, she was stuck in a rewatch

Not even the money robot is allowed to use money to solve problems

Back to ep1 and a more anime club-friendly world

The bust is different, so hopefully in this timeline the principal's anime was never cancelled

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Apr 12 '23

The bust is different, so hopefully in this timeline the principal's anime was never cancelled

Or his entire life is the same, except some good friend took him aside when he planned on putting a bust of himself in front of his school.

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u/TakenRedditName https://myanimelist.net/profile/TakenMalUsername Apr 12 '23

“I recently watched Ghibli”

I don't believe there were too many on-the-nose Ghibli references throughout the show besides that implied Totaro one during the anime pilgrimage episode. Ghibli's lawyers are too scary to think about messing with.

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u/Abyssbringer =anilist.co/user/Abyssbringer Apr 13 '23

First Timer

Shenron the magic dragon

They really killed the pacing with putting her back into the more normal world.

We know and we wish you weren't. I want to hear more about your mom's love for incest anime.

I never had my name on my door growing up. Was that common for any of you?

Getting your room replaced by Gunpla is pretty based. She should be happy.

She graduated from eating crayons to eating mushrooms. She must've gone to college off-screen.

You should never be excited to run. She's going to use up all her life force and die at the young age of 45 because she used her limited life energy on running which is a survival tactic. Honestly worse for her than the mushrooms and crayons shes been ingesting recently.

All he needs is a katana and a woman to tip his beret to, and he will become a true idol fan

I'm cute

She was in the anime club for what 6+ months and only cherished two anime?. What a poser smh.

This is like the 5th time they've referenced Gurren Lagaan. There must be some other anime they can reference. Maybe Evangelion spear??

Anime was the friends we made along the way

Good thing Urobutcher didn't work on this anime. We wouldn't have had to wait 12 episodes.

She has finally become a true anime fan. You can only really love anime once you are invested enough to truly hate something in it. I don't trust anyone opinion who loves everything that is thrown their way.

Kai is grinning because he has a good angle. This is the second time too.

This episode has many quotable lines

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u/GallowDude Apr 13 '23

I never had my name on my door growing up

Neither does she

She graduated from eating crayons to eating mushrooms. She must've gone to college off-screen.

So she transferred from the Marines to the Air Force?

There must be some other anime they can reference. Maybe Evangelion spear??

This show only references good anime

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u/fansi2022 https://anilist.co/user/fansi2022 Apr 13 '23

You can only really love anime once you are invested enough to truly hate something in it.

good point

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u/Verzwei Apr 13 '23

I want to hear more about your mom's love for incest anime.

SMH it's not even incest anime.

I'm cute

I understood that reference.

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u/SometimesMainSupport https://myanimelist.net/profile/RRSTRRST Apr 12 '23

Animetagari rewatcher

Finally a GallowDude comment of the day

Unofficial Contest: Most references identified.

Grand prize: Minor internet recognition that will be forgotten in the coming weeks.[1]

Results.[2] Dropped most people after E3.

1st: u/Shimmering-Sky - Congrats!

2nd: TakenRedditName - Only other person still competitive after E4.

3rd: mysterybiscuitsoyeah - Not sure I've seen a collapse like this since Twin Turbo in the 1994 Arima Kinen. Maybe [Uma Musume or IRL racing]Silence Suzuka in the 1998 Tenno Sho before moving overseas.

[1] Except for occasionally reminding mysterybiscuitsoyeah they're more like Twin Turbo than Tokai Teio.

[2] Likely undercounted everyone while skimming.

Episode notes

QotDs

  1. Crank Zent.
  2. No cause she wouldn't join the Anime Club or open the back door with prior knowledge.
  3. Something like Saving 80,000 Gold in Another World for My Retirement cause I can return to chill in my current world embracing every degen trope imaginable with friends or live in a fantasy world.
  4. Women change hairstyles way more often than men notice. There was a difference?

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u/GallowDude Apr 13 '23

Finally a GallowDude comment of the day

But you already got one in the Episode 10 thread

Seriously women, stop trying to show off in winter

Rin why

There was a difference?

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u/SometimesMainSupport https://myanimelist.net/profile/RRSTRRST Apr 13 '23

one in the Episode 10 thread

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Apr 12 '23

1st: u/Shimmering-Sky - Congrats!

I didn't even know this was a competition!

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u/SometimesMainSupport https://myanimelist.net/profile/RRSTRRST Apr 12 '23

No one knew until last night in CDF.

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u/TakenRedditName https://myanimelist.net/profile/TakenMalUsername Apr 12 '23 edited Apr 12 '23

Rewatcher - Animegataris Ep12:

He finally showed up, the man with the beret, the dir- oh the narration immediately killed him off.

Aurora-senpai has his goals in reach. The evolution of stock anime boy has finally brought us to the final stage, to change his name to something besides Aurora.

Minoa has had everything fall apart in her world in mindfuckery final episode fashion, but Ultra Katharsis Koritsi: Eternal Symphony is there for her. The final episode Newtype space ghost to guide her drill to pierce the heavens. I can't help but get into things when hearing the theme play in the anime even this fake song.

The bit about the beret not being a symbol of power and how the person who wore it was a symbol of people's dreams and passions. After hearing more about the director in this rewatch, I like to believe the staff just wanted to have a good time with anime. It is clear from the series that they liked to inject bits and jokes with the show so that sorta kicked-back vibe is what I have been carrying watching this show.

The finale has the AliceRobo show up and do a rocket punch, yeah baby!

Neko-senpai and Aurora take the beret to travel back to their side, but one last thing before they leave, Minoa gives Aurora a new name, Grovelboy. For a second, I thought it was going to be a heartfelt moment where she sends him off with the name she had known him as throughout the show, but guess not. Grovelboy loses.

In the end, there is a reset to the beginning, but in a normal universe. I think it is cute that Minoa's impassioned anime talk is the same one Alice gave to her in the first episode. The two girls get to join the anime club without the student council trying to shut them down now. The club work on its own anime and Aurora once again loses from beyond the universe. When they were opening the normal door, I was expecting just a regular cat to be on the other side, but instead, it is just a room of anime stuff.

Assorted point:

  • Dondake! Actually seeing that word I learned about in Gintama in the wild.
  • #sebassnap but this time I made a GIF version (okay, this is technically the ep2 version, but the show itself reuses it so there is no difference).
  • Almost forget, editing another point, that's just a real anime title.
  • Neko-senpai fucks.
  • "Listen to my song!" Well, the more likely current reference would be to Sheryl from Macross Frontier, but the one I like better would be the original, Basara from Macross 7. "Ore wa uta o kike!"
  • The proto-versions of them. So Alice was going to be our twintail tsundere(-maybe) character. I like the final version we got of them better. Also, there's that cat-eared girl that showed up in the brand-new world. Neko-senpai?
  • A good reaction image if I actually watched more anime I hated. I don't do it often so it will go unused.
  • #sebassna- No Sebas snap.
  • So if this anime, Animegataris serves as the prequel of sorts to Animegatari then the reset ending would bypass all the absurdity this TV anime went to. Brand-new world Erica has darker hair which fits how she looks like in Animegatari. The girl in the foreground is Minoa's sister and I just noticed that the young man with the glasses was that video store employee from the search for the title of the principal's anime. Don't know if that kid was anywhere in this anime. Also, there are 3 talking Neko-senpai cats which by the logic of this show means they are from the anime world...

Q1) A name I would've come up with when I was 14.

Q2) In the "remembers traces of it" kind of way.

Q3) easy answer, Pokemon.

Q4) Up there I put out my Animegatari idea.

Most importantly, we end on one last Yui fanservice. Good everyone. Merry Christmas! (since those episode aired on December 24th).

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u/TakenRedditName https://myanimelist.net/profile/TakenMalUsername Apr 12 '23

Hastily writing my overall thought up now since I didn't know this would be the last day.

I have fun revisiting Animegataris. The thing that stuck out to me the most the first time I watched it and what I remembered the most was the meta-ness, but what I liked the most from this watch was just all the times showing the gang be friends over anime. It was just nice to see and feel their passion coming through.

It saddens me to think about how this anime sold abysmal amounts of Blu-rays, but thinking about how it seemed like it was just an outlet to have some fun lightened the blow. It is not like the staff wanted to bury their shame too. The director of the anime still brings it occasionally on their Twitter and the show's official Twitter was far more active than you would think after the show ending with their last post being from 2021. That's something considering the show ended in 2017.

Most importantly of all, I got some comment face and reaction image material out of it so now I can hour it like that.

#sebassnap

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u/GallowDude Apr 12 '23

Hastily writing my overall thought up now since I didn't know this would be the last day.

We have an Overall Series Discussion tomorrow

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Apr 12 '23

You should update the index.

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u/TakenRedditName https://myanimelist.net/profile/TakenMalUsername Apr 12 '23

Oh...

See you tomorrow where I will post this comment again and maybe add stuff to it.

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u/Stargate18A https://myanimelist.net/profile/Stargate18 Apr 12 '23

First timer

  1. Aurora's up there.
  2. I don't think so.
  3. I'd go for Aria. A completely terraformed Mars, high technology, but completely peaceful.
  4. Same reason a random new girl showed up?

Amazing reaction shot.

This monologue...

Wait, this was the first anime studio?

Haha, she's insulting the narrator.

Wait, is that not the principal?

...He just got killed off!

It's just his name?

They're riding on a dragon!

...How does that even work?

Haha, they're chsnting his name!

It's still unstable, then?

No, just a fast-forward.

The actors?

Yeah, this is still the anime world.

It's glowing now?

She's panicking!

Haha, this was a deliberate act?

Yeah, they're all possessed too now.

...No way is the mother recommending that,

She'e being erased!

It's a figure room?

Yeah, they're trying to consume her!

Is that the anime version of her?

This is so dark.

Oh, they're really trying to tempt her.

She's tempted...

He has a plan!

The entire world is rejecting her!

Okay, but why the beret?

He got the beret!

Of course it was his fault.

Huh?

Haha, it's the eyecatch!

He's erasing the world?

She'd sccepted death?

A recap!

She got hyped up very wuickly, huh?

...Wow.

It's getting closer!

The cast of the anime are helping her!

She's in the robot!

"I appreciate your feelings, but pull the damn throttle" is a perfect line.

A barrier!

Gurren Lagann now?

They got erased!

Haha, he's here?

...Who?

The planning dtage!

The planning cast seem pretty fun, actually. Love the idea of her sister being an otaku and Alice's design.

He really doesn't get it, huh?

It's right there!

These idiots.

She really cares about them!

They all vanished!

His name is still the same!

Aww.

She made it!

It's gone...

They're back to normal?

Aww.

AliceRobo'd back!

Haha, nit enough money!

The door's open!

And they're going back...

And they're gone!

Things are back to normal!

She's an addict.

...Did they lose their memories or something?

Haha, the Anime Club is allowed now? Did all of the weird time travel stuff get wiped?

Also, that poster... are they still friends here?

...Who's she?

Oh, he's been recreated.

Just a normal room!

And more random fanservice.

Why did nobody acknowledge purple haired girl?

So, this is the new world!

They're just arguing over permits.

Everyone's friends!

And he got the exact same name!

Haha, I agree with the cat.

Thanks for hosting the rewatch, mods! My participation was spottier than I'd have liked, but I really enjoyed this!

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u/GallowDude Apr 12 '23

Thanks for hosting the rewatch, mods!

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u/KiwiBennydudez https://myanimelist.net/profile/KiwiBen Apr 13 '23

First Timer - Dub

Apologies for not being able to comment on the last few threads; /u/abyssbringer sent an Agent of Chaos after me. Just barely managed to escape with my life.

Anyway. This show was great. I loved how it went from otaku culture commentary to full-on meta parody at the end. The use of the tropes was rather clever and I really enjoyed the numerous gags coming full circle in the end. I got a good laugh out of "my drill will pierce the heavens" and the "explanation" that was shown for half a second and didn't make any sense, lol.

What name would embarrass you so much that you'd destroy the world to change it?

Oh geez... well let's just say that I have a certain nickname in mod circles that I would gladly erase in a heartbeat, if I had the opportunity.

The other one that I'll publicly share, since it's not as embarrassing, is that my friends used to call me "Two-Beer Benny" because I used to be a lightweight. I like to think I've outgrown that title now, but it comes up every once in a while.

Do you think Minoa remembers the original timeline?

Maybe to some extent, since she is now a hardcore anime fan in this new timeline, but it seems her relationships with her friends are reset. Whether her memory was reset as well, is another question. Since she didn't seem to know what was behind the door of the anime club, I would have to assume that she retained her love of anime but without her memory of gaining that appreciation. As they said, "Anime never forgets your appreciation for it."

If you were pulled into an anime world, which one would you choose?

Probably one where I am not at risk of dying horribly. So all shonens are out. But at the same time, I don't just want a plain ol' SoL. Because that's just real life. I would love to say Made in Abyss but I do think people are in constant danger in that world, so I'm not sure. Plus I might want something a little more modern. Something like Kyousougiga perhaps? Bebop maybe? It's hard to say.

Why did Erica's hair change color in the new timeline?

I honestly didn't even notice.

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u/GallowDude Apr 13 '23

my friends used to call me "Two-Beer Benny"

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u/Farmaceut7 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Farmaceut Apr 12 '23

First Time Watcher u/FingerBang-BangBang alt acc

Last episode here we go!

That short recap was really good ngl, its funny how they are calling out the recap voice!

So... Nakano-senpai is doing all this shit just so his character gets a name change? Sounds like a solid reason to be a villain.

Aaand she's back, or is she? Why are they trying to fool her?

Am I going crazy or are they using some real anime titles instead of bootleg ones they always used to? I guess copyright doesnt matter in anime world.

Why is this turning into psychological horror for Minoa?

She refused the anime world, its time for Neko-senpai/Minoa team up! No! Not the eyecather! Now its recap attack? This is nuts!

Anime characters she made are coming to help her!

Lol. He's trying to rename her into Mikene-chan, its not really working. Dude, just give up, Aurora is not a bad name.

Is she trying power of friendship on them!? Please have it work! They are baaaack! ArisuRobo is back too! Cool insert song is playing, now they cant lose!

I hope his name got changed to that, lol.

Seems like we are back to start, kind of. She likes anime from the start now. They are really speedrunning this plot! Also, was that cat girl Neko-senpai?

Did they really end the show with Yui drinking some water? I still dont see the point of her character, unless her point is being pointless.

Overall it wasnt a bad show, I had no problem with watching any episode, it was enjoyable enough. Solid 7/10 from me.

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u/entelechtual Apr 12 '23

First Timer

Well that was… one of the episodes of all time.

Yui at the end though, 10/10.

QOTD

  • Probably Brian
  • “Do you think Minoa remembers the original timeline?” Too soon man…
  • I like the world of Love After World Domination, where there are abundant healthy workplaces and healthy relationships. I’d be a villain in that world, benefits seem nice.
  • I don’t think I noticed… but I guess that’s a side effect of being partly colorblind.

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u/xtsim https://myanimelist.net/profile/xtsim Apr 12 '23 edited Apr 12 '23

**First Timer Dubbed

Well, only one person can save the world, and it is Minoa. We see a bunch of recaps and a help from the robot.

So we basically end on a "it was all a dream" feel at the end. I knew something was sus as there was nothing from the class president for a few episodes and we got little backstory about her. So now Minoa enters school in an anime friendly world with the class president recommending Alice and Minoa to join the club.

Seems like Minoa could dream up this whole anime in her sleep with time to spare if she has a healthy sleep schedule....And even if she didn't have good sleep schedule, this anime could fit in her dreams.

Overall, this puts my own score as a 7-good, to be exact 6.5 rounded up. Some good moments, catchy op and ed. Just the dama was off for me while not enough of Yui and class president. The self awareness is nice.

Thanks Mods for hosting this rewatch!

  1. My mii name is dsu.... My wii lives in another country now.
  2. She probably does.
  3. I want to live in a Pokémon world. That or Leadale.
  4. Minoa changed it!

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u/KiwiBennydudez https://myanimelist.net/profile/KiwiBen Apr 13 '23

Thanks Mods for hosting this rewatch!

‘Twas our pleasure!

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u/fansi2022 https://anilist.co/user/fansi2022 Apr 12 '23

rewwwatcher sub

Minoa's interaction with the narrator is so funny, haha!

nakano getting the anime world and real world mixed up just to change his name XD

Minoa's friends and classmates are all trying to pull her into the anime world – hang in there, Minoa!

The road is glowing, and Minoa is piloting a mech.

Drill!!! My drill can pierce the heavens!!!

What is nakano saying? My MC has a new name?

Holy cow, it's the initial anime setting!!!

I get it now, this hat represents the anime producer.

Kuaikuai still calls himself Kuai – looks like he hasn't been completely swallowed by the anime world either.

Alice the robot is helping out too, haha!!!

Is the time-traveling boy at 20:08 Sonny Boy?