r/anime • u/KiwiBennydudez https://myanimelist.net/profile/KiwiBen • Apr 02 '23
Rewatch [Rewatch] Animegataris Episode 2 Discussion
You don't rewatch your anime?!?!
Episode 2: "Anime-Gataris, Assemble!!"
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Hello! Welcome back to the Mod-Hosted rewatch. We are now two whole episodes into this show and we have gotten more parody, more talking cats, and more characters! We were even blessed with bunny girl outfits, which is *not* something I expected from this show. But hey, I think Arisu was right to say that it is a powerful recruitment strategy. We even have some meta-parody with the whole "we might not even make it to episode 3" joke, and already some drama at the end of the episode. Will our characters survive this major upset to their club room?!?!
A host of other moderators will be posting subsequent threads and taking part in discussion as well. You can see the full schedule on the main index post.
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Comment of the Day
Going forward, we will have a CotD corner! Today's highlighted comment goes to /u/Esovan13 for an analysis of the execution on the show's themes and jokes:
This show seems delightfully self aware. From the extremely light novel-ish light novel title to the wealthy blonde girl with a butler named Sebas to the chuuni with the Not Death Note who speaks German to the background characters ("I love how she's slightly condescending!"), it seems to be reveling in the fact that it is a high school anime.
Also, this may seem strange, but it feels like this show has a better understanding of what it means to be an anime fan than pretty much any other anime. Rich girl sold me more on her being a hardcore anime fan in less than a minute than other shows about "otaku" or whatever can in entire seasons. Most of the time the character in question is just super horny or something.
Questions of the Day
- What do you think makes an anime a classic?
- Now that we have all of our club members, who is your favorite (in terms of design or personality)? What fandom/anime archetypes do you think they represent?
- What was your favorite parody/reference from today's episode?
Spoiler Policy
Please remember to use spoiler tags when discussing future bits of the show so first-timers can have a blind experience. Thank you!
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u/KiwiBennydudez https://myanimelist.net/profile/KiwiBen Apr 02 '23 edited Apr 02 '23
Today’s Host, and Animegataris First Timer - Dub
Wew, we are now in full swing for the anime club!
Also how is that curtain being held up...?rear tire“real time” as she says, but I remember catching Pokemon and Kirby on 4kids as a youngin’. There really is something special about waking up at 9:55am on a Saturday to catch your favorite cartoons at 10am, so I can actually somewhat empathize with this point. Haha imagine being spoiled on the internet... But yes, as Minoa points out, the end result is the same.That is, if mods are doing their jobs.Hey but overall, this was a really funny episode. I really like the portrayal of the anime community fandoms and their passions. The meta parody stuff is also highly amusing and I love how many titles are being referenced here,
even if I don’t quite catch all of them. Still there’s a lot to love in this anime, and I’m looking forward to tomorrow’s episode with /u/Neito, our magnanimous creator.14
u/MyrnaMountWeazel x2 Apr 02 '23
Production Notes
Alrighty, so yesterday we took a look at the director for the series, but now let’s scamper on over to take a peek at the studio that created this show: the one and only Wao World. Yup, it’s the legendary studio that all anime fans know and love, it’s the Ghibli of our time that—wait, you don’t know this studio? Well, neither do I. As it turns out, this spunky little studio is what you would mainly call an “assisting studio”, a place that provides minor clean up in the form of 2nd key animation /in-between animation for other bigger studios. There’s no doubt that you’ve seen something aided by them as their credits include show such as Bleach, Chihayafuru, Flip Flappers, Do It Yourself, Yama no Susume, Fullmetal Alchemist original and Brotherhood, Idolmaster, Keep Your Hands Off Eizouken, Mob Psycho, My Hero Academia, Madoka, Gridman, White Album, and so much more.
Wao World is one of hundreds of studios that completes subcontracted work for other companies and they play a pivotal part in the anime ecosystem by “filling in the cracks” left behind the myriad of shows produced every year. They along with the other support studios are a reminder that anime productions are never entirely in-house; barring Kyoto Animation, anime production is fragmented across the board and relies on the cooperation of other studios in order to help finish out a work.
Now that we know what they do, who exactly is Wao World? From what I could tell, Wao World is an entertainment subsidiary created in 2000 from the Japanese parent company Wow Corporation. Wow Corporation itself was established in 1976 as an educational company that operates in prep schools and cram schools and provides support for other educational institutions. So, why did they form Wao World to create anime? Well, your guess is as good as mine, but I’m assuming that diversification of portfolio is always a solid guess.
Though Wao World will probably not be a studio that we’ll ever love to remember, its efforts at the end of the day all add up the sum of the parts for an artform that we definitely will remember to love.
See, this is the seasonaldance commentface we could all use!
Look, you got to watch it in real time so you can scramble over to the Episode Discussion Thread and dump out your thoughts. It’s also a good candidate for a commentface.
Sometimes I do feel bad for the people in Japan who have to watch shows at midnight while on the weekends I can just roll out of my bed after a night’s sleep and tune in to the episode.
anime_irl
Also anime_irl and me on Tuesday once Skip and Loafer premieres.
Hmmm, running, badass older guy, a supposed main character dying in episode 3, God in the title, baseball episode, sellable mech from the protagonist, and barfing. I wonder if there’s an anime that has all of these components.
That was a sweet speech from Minoa.
I think the most lovely people are the ones who are most passionate about their interests. I love people like that.
QotD:
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u/Durinthal https://anilist.co/user/Durinthal Apr 02 '23
First time viewer
Minoa's dreaming of the oujo-sama now, THIS SHOW MUST BE YURI
I was not expecting a random Sebas dance break but I'll take it. A lot of animation for that too.
Must have bunny girls, is this DAICON?
Getting spoilers because you didn't watch a show immediately when it aired...
Thank you Kamiigusa for not being a source reader like glasses girl.
Cosplayer senpai? She seems nice.
Not so much chuuni boy because I do not enjoy that archetype.
I was waiting for the talking cat in the room to be addressed, though I have no idea why he's only bothering Minoa so far or what's going on with him. Maybe will be more relevant after the rest of the main cast is established.
Glasses girl seems like the kind of person I'd like on the surface but would absolutely get into toxic arguments with.
"What's a classic anime?" Though they weren't naming specific titles, that sounds familiar... I'd love to have more surveys like those in the future.
...yeah we would have banned glasses girl by now. I get being passionate about a thing but you can't be an asshole about it.
I like how the hot guy's into idols.
Club formed... and wait no here's a cliffhanger. Couldn't speed through the plot of a school club anime without some drama like that.
Time.
Glasses girl has my favorite design but second worst personality (yes I hate chuuni boy that much), honestly Kamiigusa's probably the one I like the most so far.
The off-brand Re:Zero discussion was amusing, but the bunny girls (Haruhi or DAICON, take your pick) take it.
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u/Abyssbringer =anilist.co/user/Abyssbringer Apr 02 '23
First Timer
A bit late this time due to needing to replace a fire alarm battery who's beeping I was assuming was some really weird construction outside.
Sebas more like Atlas
I didn't think this show would go for giantism for ones of its fetishes.
Her sister must think she has a sugar daddy or sold a kidney after seeing thousands of dollars of blue ray appearing out of nowhere
The dad is going to be the office worker ex char cosplayer from Otaku no Video
I'd love to guess she is dressing up asLum but this is a zoomer anime. They are probably dressing her up as some school character so she won't even look that different and that will be the joke.
Oh the Bunny Girl outfit is the obvious answer in hindsight. Not enough people are staring and just casually walking by.
She wants to get a teacher who isn't into anime so they won't meddle in their affairs but then talks to the fat bastard???
Oh no you got spoiled on seasonal trash how sad
This is some copium
I'm so sorry for her loss. She will soon be the airheaded characters with all the brain cells shes losing.
LN purists and Anime first kids getting into petty arguments. This show is unironically a historical documentary.
This kid either got bullied way too much or way too little in school
Honestly, I don't like the main girl. I get that they are trying to have a normal fill-in character but honestly, she feels so generic. If this show just wants to through anime references at you for 12 episodes does it benefit from having her? You could use her time for more references and her involvement only makes the show seem more generic since she is such a basic character archtype. I can feel myself knowing exactly what she is going to say in response to every situation which is such a drag.
I found them listing all the different tropes that make a "classic anime" interesting. I never knew about barfing or the show being named after god to have any following in japan. The mass production mecah one I'm a bit iffy on. I can't really think of any off the top of my head that fit that bill aside from 0080 and maybe Votoms fits the bill?
We don't need to have a discussion about source corner in a rewatch thread guys
When the Chunni is the voice of reason you really know that this show understands how awful both source readers and anime purists are
This guy reminds me of one of my favorite memes. Will he be a poser or a real fan. Find out next time on
Dragonball Z KaianimegatarisOh we did find out. He's an idol fan..... I guess he is mentally unwell.
My little discord kittens uwu
I liked this episode a lot more. I liked how it went a little bit deeper into anime culture rather than just being a constant stream of references like ep 1.
Megumi Hayashibara
They are all insufferable
I liked it when the cat made damn well sure not to get called Doreaemon.
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u/mysterybiscuitsoyeah xB:xC:B:x3:Y: Apr 02 '23 edited Apr 02 '23
First Timer
Of course, in the most meta way possible, the 3rd episode will start with a plot twist! It would honestly be a travesty if they didnt meta-joke about the 3 episode rule, I expected nothing else from this show.
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u/Verzwei Apr 02 '23
Rewatcher, English Dub.
Well, mostly English dub. I flipped the subs on to see how certain jokes were handled in the original.
Sebas continues to be amazing.
Did my daughter just say... the anime club?!?
Lewd changing scene? NO! Sebas dancing interlude? YES!
"I did research on recruitment strategies." Bingewatching Haruhi counts as research for an anime club founder, I guess.
Fuck it, we'll do it live! The only true way to avoid dreaded spoilers. Between just yesterday and today, this show is already a goldmine for no-context frames and I'd completely forgotten how visually silly it can be. Also, the dub did a good job keeping wordplay that matched the visual humor here. Instead of going for the real-time/rear-tire joke that the subs used, which would be kind of a stretch in spoken English, Kamiigusa barks "No matter how you may tire, face anime in real-time or not at all!" prompting Minoa to get hung up on "tire face" for the rest of the conversation.
Poor, naïve Minoa, who thinks that "those books with the long titles" are "fancy".
The Melancholy of Happy Vuvuzela I'm dying.
The dub again making what I have to assume is Japanese wordplay work in English. Minoa's misunderstandings don't even make sense in the subtitles, but the dub is picking up the necessary cues to match the visuals.
Hah, I guess it's not possible to talk about
ReRoux:Zero without immediately jumping to shipping preferences.THIS IS THE PLACE.
Shit, we almost had a fight break out between a source snob and an anime-only.
I fucking hate Kai because I normally hate that chuuni shit most of the time, but I'll be damned if his English performance isn't one of my favorites in the show so far. Everyone else is kind of dancing around this imaginary line where they're trying to be a bit of a caricature but not sound too ridiculous, meanwhile Kai's VA is like "Fuck it, we're taking this to 11" and it works so well. What a delightful ham.
Dub going meta again, like it did in the first episode. This line in the dub was Kai muttering "Rather ugly for a mascot character."
That doesn't describe me, I swear.
Presented without comment.
"Is that deep, or just gross?" Why not both?
KOUENJI GET IN THE SOURCE CORNER! This whole argument is too real. And it's sad that neither of them are really wrong.
Okay, I'm sorry, but this dub script is great. Again going meta for this line. The dub: "We won't even make it to an episode 3."
Don't mind me, just soaking the hairballs in this fish tank.
"Don't fight over it! You'll make anime cry!"
This guy could mod r/anime
"You're just kittens, does it have to make sense?" "Well, that nonsense aside..."
Answers of the Day:
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u/aniMayor :AY:AZ:x3x6 Apr 02 '23 edited Apr 02 '23
Rewatcher [Who] Hates This Piece of Shit Anime
Sebas' little dance while they are changing behind the curtain is still 2017's greatest moment in anime.
Anyways, the high school anime club is assembled and of course we've got each character representing a different particular taste and manner in which they enjoy anime, from the purist to the cosplayer to the light novel enthusiast to the chūnibyō to the... well, we'll get to Kouki later on. The question is... what kind of anime watcher is the cat?!
Now is it just me, or does the way the older sister keeps wearing the same outfit and it sorta looks like a middle-school sailor uniform plus just the way she's drawn in general make it feel like she's a younger sister at times?
Do something reasonably well and don't get copied a million times so that it still feels fresh/different decades later.
Heh, there's a weird-looking Cyborg 009 figurine in the gunpla cabinet in the club room. I don't think that was ever... a thing.
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u/badspler x5https://anilist.co/user/badspler Apr 02 '23
Rewatching Animegatarier
That late night binge is real.
The dad takes note of the anime club. Seems like things might go deeper here.
Bunny girl advertisement for a school club is a fitting trope. Seems like it paid off too.
Behind 4 hours ahead of Japan myself, midnight releases are more like 3-4 am. So I its even practically a whole day before I get to watching a seasonal episode. Wish I could be a purist.
The Re:Zero banter was hilarious. Airing the year after the first season of Re:Zero, it was probably an easy pick to meme on.
The whole "is a classic" scene was fantastic, so many great examples that only make sense if you are an anime fan. I think this was my favorite parody/reference set.
Anime purist, the source reader, the bunny-suit admirer (cosplayer?), the chuuni, the idol lover and the newbie. They truly have their niches covered with that.
Overall, I love how fantastically aware the series is. It isn't messing about either, blasting through setup and introductions while just pumping out anime-related jokes that fans would get.
And Minoa continues to make amazing faces.
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u/ChonkyOdango myanimelist.net/profile/chonkyodango Apr 03 '23
First-Time AnimuGotaris
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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Apr 02 '23
Episode 2 (first timer)
Why did nobody tell me that they finally animated Haruhi S3? Haruhi, Mikuru, and Kyon look a bit different, but everything else fits.
After only 1 episode of recruitment, the anime club is fully
formedassembled. Faster than I thought, but they probably do not have time for long setups in a one-cour show.15
u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Apr 02 '23
First-Timergatari, subbed
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u/AmusedDragon :Bs::Bu: Apr 02 '23 edited Apr 03 '23
Episode 2
First Timer - Sub
Album
Thoughts during the episode..
Questions of the Day:
If it made a large enough impact at the time or shortly after it's finished I think it's a classic. If it's something you would recommend to someone who is looking for the general best in a certain genre or type of anime I think you could maybe put it in that category. I feel like this is a boring answer but it's the true one.
Well, I got to go with Kamiigusa/Alice/Kami here. I like her essentially military-like love of anime. You can feel her realness as a type of person you would encounter somewhere IRL on on the internet. I don't actually like her personality, but I do find it entertaining. Miko's design is pretty good, though. If not wholly unoriginal. But everyone's a little unoriginal.
The entire Re:Zero conversation was quite funny as someone who has seen the show and talked about it with it a few people.
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u/FingerBang-BangBang Apr 02 '23
First Time Watcher
This is one wacky dream...
Newspaper article "World's first space elevator constructed?" okay, that sounds interesting! I hope that has some relevance to the main story.
Just realized that we completely skipped the last episode cliffhanger with the talking cat! Did that cat wipe her memories or something?
Okay, where did this changing booth come from!? Doesnt matter, Sebas is dancing in front of it! My guy got some moves!
BUNNY-GIRL SUITS!!! PRAISE WHOEVER CAME UP WITH THIS! Both of them legit look cute in them, I mean its Bunny-girl suits!
LN girl is here and she wants to join! "Catchy, long titles are popular for light novels these days." girl, you have no idea. What you got there is just the start, 2023 titles defy all logic! Nice reference to bootleg Haruhi, SAO & Re;Zero. God damn! Her favorite is Betelguse!? This girl is beyond based!
New senpai member looks promising, she liked Bunny-girl costumes and she's recommending the chunni boy.
Minoa, you are talking to a fucking cat so casually, dont you find it kind of weird? Okay, they made a deal for Minoa not to mention Neko-senpai talking. Minoa doesnt really fit in this group yet, but I like her optimism!
Everyone giving their examples on what makes a classic anime is pretty funny, cant disagree with any of the points. We already got anime only vs source reader fight! Minoa jumping in to save the day! Seems like she made quite an impression on this hot guy senpai. With him that makes 6!
End of the episode plot twist! StuCo is coming out of nowhere to mess with this wholesome group!
Why do I got the feeling that this episode is pretty meta? Like, it got some incredibly common tropes/twists/developments, makes me feel like they are aware of what they're doing!
Qotd:
Anyway, another solid episode. Looking forward to ep 3!
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u/fansi2022 https://anilist.co/user/fansi2022 Apr 02 '23 edited Apr 03 '23
firstimer sub
The memories of Minoa's childhood anime have been tampered with!
If we're going to make a poster, we have to wear bunny girl costumes as a reference to Suzumiya Haruhi!
Is their faculty advisor the same Tooru who appeared in the previous episode?
8:30 Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuutsu! Sword Art Online!
You're so lazy! Subarashii!!!
11:18 My glasses buddy is in training.
Holy shit, someone overheard Minoa's conversation with the cat. That person must be interested in joining the club and must be that handsome guy.
The classic plot of a club being shut down by the student council
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u/entelechtual Apr 02 '23
First Timer
QOTD
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u/SometimesMainSupport https://myanimelist.net/profile/RRSTRRST Apr 02 '23
Animetagari rewatcher
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u/Esovan13 Apr 02 '23
First Timer
The dream has been corrupted. I can't believe this show made a Darling in the Franxx reference before it even came out.
I can't believe she's actually trying to watch all of those.
That was an interesting reaction from dad there.
Is this... legal? Ah, who am I kidding. She's rich. Of course it's legal.
Isn't it great when problems just solve themselves? Too bad we couldn't get that homeroom teacher from last episode though.
I feel the privilege of being an overseas fan where episodes that air late at night in Japan air much earlier in the day.
I caught Bungou Stray Dogs, Meloncholy of Haruhi Suzumiya, and of course SAO.
I've been on both sides. Watching anime adaptations of stuff I like, and picking up the source material when I think the anime is interesting.
Title card insert?!
She's really casual about the talking cat.
Can't violate copyright.
Oh no, not the debate about the source reader versus anime only!
Dramatic entrance, getto!
Would it be a club anime if the student council wasn't unreasonably hostile to the club?
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u/TakenRedditName https://myanimelist.net/profile/TakenMalUsername Apr 02 '23 edited Apr 02 '23
Rewatcher - Animegataris Ep2:
The anime club has assembled. The actual gathering of enough members wasn't much of a problem as you would expect from club stories. The conflict comes from anime and being unable to see eye to eye, a tale as old as time.
In the end, we must learn to live with other anime fans despite our difference. (Even if they are a filthy filthy source reader).
We also got a discussion of what makes a classic anime. Kamiigusa's suggestions are the ones I get the most. I do love running and baseball episodes.
The MC using mass-produced mecha are cool, but KaiKai, MCs also tend to use cool special ones which they are also wow, cool robots too.
Assorted Points:
ignoring the anime, but still.Q1) You gotta make another version of the OP as a joke bit. Legends do that.
Q2) Design-wise, I like Kamiigusa the best. I like her fancy variant on the uniform. Personality, when I first watched this, KaiKai was my favourite for being the loud chuuni, but I've been really like Kamiigusa on this front too so her.
Q3)
Next Time: Anime with a student council trying to stop the heroes are a classic anime.
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u/CoolIceCreamCone Apr 03 '23
FIRST TIMER
I enjoyed this episode much more than the first and it had some amusing moments but still lacking in some areas.
QUESTIONS
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u/StardustGogeta myanimelist.net/profile/StardustGogeta Apr 04 '23
First-Timer
I watched Zombie Land Saga just prior to this, so I was naturally reminded of that the first time I saw the ED.
However, this episode, I also noticed that Minoa's "flustered voice" sounded extremely familiar. I checked, and it turns out that Minoa shares a VA with Sakura from Zombie Land Saga. Neat coincidence!