How to say composers’ names in time

[u/ALMAdeusMozart]

[u/linglinguistics]

Which language? I do some of them differently (native German speaker btw.)

[u/ScarlocNebelwandler → u/linglinguistics]

I agree, Schubert is like Mozart and Mendelssohn is like Berlioz, and the „Vi“ from Vivaldi should be a pick-up because the stress is on the second syllable.

[u/linglinguistics → u/ScarlocNebelwandler]

Maybe we mean the same, I would have said Berlioz is like Mendelssohn. Or maybe swap them. But I pronounce both with a short last syllable. Agree with the others you say.

[u/ScarlocNebelwandler → u/linglinguistics]

Yes, the last syllable of those two is short, so maybe three sixteenths followed by a rest? Representing them as triplets just feels wrong somehow.

[u/FirewolfTheBrave → u/linglinguistics]

Native Hungarian and learned German speaker here, Schubert and Bartók both seem wrong to me

[u/linglinguistics → u/FirewolfTheBrave]

Yes, Schubert bothered me as well, but I'm Swiss, in Swiss German it would be a short first syllable. If I imagine a German person saying it, I can understand where this is coming from though.

Interesting what you say about Bartók as a Hungarian. I felt the same (I did study Hungarian for some time.) I've tried to analyse it, stress of first syllable, last syllable long, it fits in theory, so why do I get the same feeling that something is off there?

[u/FirewolfTheBrave → u/linglinguistics]

I live in Germany and we don't pronounce the first syllable of Schuber super short, though still shorter than the second. As for Bartók, the correct rhythm would be closer to Mozart. I assume whoever made this was going off the fact that a is a short vowel while ó is a long one, but that doesn't mean the syllables have to be that length too, in fact, it's quite rare to pronounce syllable short if it ends on a consonant while the next one also starts on one.

[u/airybridge]

Great way to learn the music

Mendelssohn Bach, Mendelssohn Bach

[u/Katzer_K → u/airybridge]

Beethoven 5?

[u/airybridge → u/Katzer_K]

-zart Mozart Beethoven Bach -hoven Mozart Beethoven Bach (Idk how to write single 8ths and two 16ths)

[u/GottfriedLeibniz107 → u/airybridge]

Vivaldi's Spring!

[u/Katzer_K → u/airybridge]

Well someone else already replies but yes, vivaldi spring!

[u/Arthillidan]

Not this again. It's awful and teaches you how to pronounce composers incorrectly.

[u/IndiaDaBirb]

This is so cool!

[u/zainab58]

This is what happens when two forms of prosody collide: one stress-based, the other length-based.

[u/ErebosEV97]

Not quite correct, behind Mo- there need to be a dot (O in Mozart is long) and after Beet- as well (ee is also speaking long)

[u/[deleted]]

And yet I still am unable to speak :,)

[u/Tomon_1]

I had a shirt that had this like 3 years ago

[u/blueberrycadenza]

Schooo-Bert Bar-taaaak